OTO; kinda lame

what you jabbering on about?

Ordo templii orientis

Black magic club. Order of the temple of the east. A crowley favourite.

In addition,

That pretty red book of theres is known and hated by many Christian groups.

They love ripping it from your hands, running off with it, and torching the fucking thing while you are still contemplating your belly button lint.

Now, lets stop being paranoid about a bunch of nerds who cant get laid and go play outside.

Like many cults they refuse to communicate with outsiders, and close rank when approached.

They do not have or refuse to share a clear position statement on the org's views on pedophilia.

As a matter of fact, they just flatly refuse to talk to you.

They will sue people-I guess that is a form of communication.

I guess they have the will to be silent. But why?

What do you think you are accomplishing by ignoring the problem?

You'll neg rep me, but avoid any direct communication. Nothing screams "cult" like....being cult like.

No better/worse than LeVay's silly group of Satanists in the 60's.

Im a first degree and I left a few months ago because I wanted to do some real ritual work and everyone else in the group wanted to have coffee and talk about anything other than magick.

[link to youtu.be]

As I understand it, like Scientology, you have to pay more (and wait around forever) but you never really get to be Tom Cruise.

I feel like this describes most SS.

I found this, I have no idea how accurate it is

[link to hermetic.com]

The Ninth Degree secret is a carrot on a stick. The Ninth Degree secret, the OTO secret of Sexual Magick, is revealed only to initiates of Seventh Degree or higher. According to the annual demographics published April 2002 in the Thelema Lodge Calendar, less than 3% of total initiates are of Fifth Degree or higher. (That’s only up from 1.5% in 1992.) If you want to know the Ninth Degree secret, you’d be better off searching the internet for the Ninth Degree papers than joining the OTO.
One more thing: the Ninth Degree secret of sex magick may have been a secret 100 years ago, but today it is openly published in many books--if you know where to look.

The secret is felching...

These people are fucking disgusting...

If you are paying to eventually have sex with a man, isn't that just very,very very expensive prostitution?

[link to abcnews.go.com]

Arizona prosecutors have charged more than 30 people affiliated with the Phoenix Goddess Temple, a 10,000-square-foot alleged brothel that had been operating under the pretense of providing "religious" services for hundreds of dollars in cash "donations," police said.