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UPDATE - Libya Taken Over by Benghazi Attackers - Political Isolation is "Legal Coup" - Plotters Caught on Tape

 
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UPDATE - Libya Taken Over by Benghazi Attackers - Political Isolation is "Legal Coup" - Plotters Caught on Tape
Islamists have just been handed control of Libya's government -

The Political Isolation law, which will be implemented THIS MONTH, has passed. Most current members of Libya's Congress will be forced out. Most political leaders & heads of government agencies will be forced out. The ousted elected officials will be replaced by the losers in the last election (Islamists).

Why would a politician pass a law that forces him to resign? They were forced to - Libyan government ministries have been surrounded by heavily armed militiamen for a week.

[link to m.apnews.com]

Background - The Political Isolation law bars anyone who served in Gaddafi regime from 1969 through 2011 from serving in Libyan government for 10 years. The law does not provide an exception for Gaddafi era officials who supported the revolution.

Basically, every Libyan politician served at some point in the Gaddafi regime. The current PM & President were Libyan diplomats who defected and became prominent dissidents in the late 1970s.

The war-time leaders of the uprising both left the Gaddafi regime at the start of the revolution. NTC PM Jibril served in a economic role during a period of reform from 2007 - 2011 & NTC President Jalil was a Justice Minister.

All of those men will now be banned from political office and government roles.

GOTO POST 15 OF THREAD (one w/ youtube video) FOR TAPE WHICH REVEALS WHO IS BEHIND ISOLATION LAW.

Who was behind it?

Sami al Saadi - founder of LIFG. Escaped from Kabul after 9/11. Captured by UK/US in Hong Kong and subject to rendition to Libya.

Wassim Bin Hameed - in charge of Libya Shield security forces in Benghazi when the attack on the American compound occurred. Subject of the last diplomatic cable sent by Chris Stevens. Cable was sent on the day Stevens died.
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The alternative would have been Africans controlling their own cell phone lines,irrigating the Sahara to create farm land and working together to improve life in ALL of Africa. Europe didn't want that.

They will be much safer with blood thirsty jihadists a stones throw away who hate and want to kill them and rape their Sons and Daughters.

Al least they won't be too dark skinned right?
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Libya vote to bar Qaddafi cronies adds to country's crisis

Libya was plunged into deeper political turmoil today after revolutionary militiamen got their way when the country’s Congress voted to disbar from political office former Qaddafi-era officials, even if they had contributed to the overthrow of the late dictator....

Many in the cabinet also will be forced out, including the interior minister, and so will a large number of GNC members, mostly moderates. Western diplomats warn that the measure, which was argued over for weeks and was demanded by revolutionary militiamen who have been besieging key ministries for the past week, amounts to a “legal coup” and will strengthen the Muslim Brotherhood and smaller Islamist parties...

Diplomats here argue that the engineering of the political isolation law smacks of a legal coup.

“The Islamists got a drubbing in the July elections for the GNC and I think they have now snatched back the initiative by legally eliminating political rivals in the National Forces Alliance,” said a European diplomat...

Read more: [link to www.foxnews.com]
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Washington Post - Liberals say it will give a boost to Islamists, who performed poorly in recent elections compared to their counterparts in other Arab states, although Islamists said they could also be affected by the ban...

But critics say that the law was passed at gunpoint, as militias have surrounded several government buildings in Tripoli for the past several days barring officials from work. Their vehicles mounted with rocket-propelled grenades kept watch on the street during the vote.

[link to www.washingtonpost.com]
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And now the jihadists control a country that sits on top of a giant underground ocean if light, sweet crude.

I wonder what they'll do with the cash flow from Libya's oil?

Gee, thanks Obama! For your illegal, unconstitutional, treasonous war. What a wonderful gift you've given to America's enemies.
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Gunmen stormed the headquarters of the General Electric Company in Tripoli and attacked chairman of the board of directors.

unidentified gunmen on Monday morning stomred the headquarters of the General Company for Electricity in Tripoli, and beat the company's chairman, and they insulted and intimidated staff has led to the stoppage of work and the inability of the company to carry out its work.

Workers denounced the General Electric Company of this attack, and declared in a statement about the incident that the company will not be able to conduct its business and secure electric power unless security is available for all technical and administrative headquarters. The statement pointed out that the company addressed to competent authorities a request protect its headquarters and that these entities did not provide any response. ..


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Wednesday's developments. Militias form alliance and are still demanding PM resign. A second rebel alliance is forming to support the government. Civil War looms.

This is reason no one helped the ambassador in Benghazi. A government led by 2 long-time CIA assets was vulnerable & any US military action would have been led to its collapse BUT 9 months later that government is collapsing anyway. Just saying.

[link to nbcnews.to]
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Re: UPDATE - Libya Taken Over by Benghazi Attackers - Political Isolation is "Legal Coup" - Plotters Caught on Tape
Islamists have just been handed control of Libya's government -

The Political Isolation law, which will be implemented THIS MONTH, has passed. Most current members of Libya's Congress will be forced out. Most political leaders & heads of gpvernment agencies will be forced out. The ousted elected officials will be replaced by the losers in the last election (Islamists).

Why would a politician pass a law that forces him to resign? They were forced to - Libyan government ministries have been surrounded by heavily armed militiamen for a week.

[link to m.apnews.com]

Background - The Political Isolation law bars anyone who served in Gaddafi regime from 1969 through 2011 from serving in Libyan government for 10 years. The law does not provide an exception for Gaddafi era officials who supported the revolution.

Basically, every Libyan politician served at some point in the Gaddafi regime. The current PM & President were Libyan diplomats who defected and became prominent dissidents in the late 1970s.

The war-time leaders of the uprising both left the Gaddafi regime at the start of the revolution. NTC PM Jibril served in a economic role during a period of reform from 2007 - 2011 & NTC President Jalil was a Justice Minister.

All of those men will now be banned from political office and government roles.
 Quoting: DarbyDoom


Poetic justice for France killing Qaddafi. He didn't deserve to die.

Next stop Europe.
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Libya

May 09, 2013

The Department of State warns U.S. citizens of the risks of traveling to Libya and strongly advises against all but essential travel to Tripoli and all travel to Benghazi, Bani Walid, and southern Libya, including border areas and the regions of Sabha and Kufra. Because of ongoing instability and violence, the Department’s ability to provide consular services to U.S. citizens in these regions of Libya is extremely limited. This Travel Warning supersedes the Travel Warning dated March 11, 2013.

[link to travel.state.gov]
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Latest Libya Update - Not Good

TRIPOLI, Libya — Scores of Libyan militiamen descended on an anti-Islamist rally in the nation’s capital, Tripoli, kicking and beating protesters who had taken to the streets Friday as part of a call for mass demonstrations against the country’s unruly militias and Muslim radicals.

Rallies also took place in two other Libyan cities, Benghazi and Tobruk, with hundreds of activists denouncing the armed thugs and decrying what they describe as political maneuverings by the nation’s Muslim Brotherhood.


For nearly two weeks, Libya has been gripped by fear of new armed conflict after militias stormed and surrounded government buildings in Tripoli, blocking access to ministries in an attempt to push parliament to pass a contentious law that would prevent members of Moammar Gadhafi’s regime from serving in senior government posts.

[link to www.washingtonpost.com]
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HOLY SHIT HOLY SHIT - THIS IS HUGE

@Eljarh: A secret audio recording of the leaders of the #IsolationLaw masterminds plotting to overthrow #Zeidan's govt has surfaced. #Libya

The plotters - Saami al Saadi, Adel Tarhoni, Wisam Bin Hameed.

Here's the recording.



IN English - This tape shows the ISLAMISTs behind the Benghazi attacks are the people behind the Isolation Law (more on these guys to come)
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Political Isolation Law Plotters -

Saami al Saadi is a member of Al Qaeda who escaped from Afghanistan after US invasion. He fled to Hong Kong where he was captured by US/UK intelligence. He was subject to rendition to Libya.

After Gaddafi fell, he sued the UK government over his rendition and was awarded $4 million.

See article -

[link to www.huffingtonpost.co.uk]
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Security for Benghazi embassy was provided by Libyan Shield forces. Leader of the Libyan Shield forces in Benghazi - taped Isolation Law plotter Wassim Bin Hameed (aka Ahmed) - Ambassador Stevens wrote a cable about Bin Hameed ON THE DAY HE DIED

[link to www.thedailybeast.com]

Exclusive: Libya Cable Detailed Threats

In a dispatch sent the day he was killed, Ambassador Christopher Stevens described how the militias keeping the peace in Benghazi threatened to quit over a political feud.

The cable, reviewed by The Daily Beast, recounts how the two militia leaders, Wissam bin Ahmed and Muhammad al-Gharabi, accused the United States of supporting Mahmoud Jibril, the head of the Libyan transitional government, to be the country’s first elected prime minister.

...Had he won, bin Ahmed and al-Gharabi warned they “would not continue to guarantee security in Benghazi, a critical function they asserted they were currently providing,” the cable reads.
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5 stars and all that jazz.

Libya's infrastructure is fairly well developed. Watch how quickly it disintegrates.

The people with money or property outside of Libya have been gone. Those who are left couldn't leave.

This will not end well.
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Excepts from 2012 interview w/ Saami al Saadi

Talking about going to Afghanistan -

Q: Which secret organization – LIFG (Libyan Islamic Fighting Group)?
A: The roots to founding LIFG. It was known as Awatha Zuwawi group... In ‘88 I went to Afghanistan. It is known that Afghanistan has a lot of groups operating inside it, there are a lot of ideologies, different ideas and different directions and in the 90s we were asked by al Qaeda to join them. And we had refused because we were concentrating on the resistance against the Libyan regime...

He then talks about later meetings w/ Osama Bin Laden

Q: Where were you on 9/11?
A: In Kabul


Talking about his capture -

Q: When did you first encounter Americans?
A: On the contrary of what happened to Abdelhakim Belhadj, the Americans never showed up in my case. On the night before I was handed over, I was flown to Libya I was put in a small room with my family... - female guards in the same room, standing – they were talking in their own language, but in their conversation I could hear the word “CIA” repeated more than once.

Q: Who were these people, Chinese?
A: (clarification by translator) Hong Kong. Q: Americans were never seen?

A: They were always behind the curtains. So after I was in prison in Libya one of the people came to me and he told me one of my friends had been (captured)...The people who brought him are the same people who brought him brought you – the Americans.”

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@tweetsintheME: BP is withdrawing some non-essential staff from Libya after British government warnings (link to Roiters)
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Re: UPDATE - Libya Taken Over by Benghazi Attackers - Political Isolation is "Legal Coup" - Plotters Caught on Tape
Details on passage of political isolation law are coming out.

From yesterday - @Bilalhb: Breaking: GNC member of NSF Alaa Megriaf live on radio stated that he and other GNC members voted for isolation law under threat.

As they walked into Parliament, members of GNC were handed pieces of paper that said things like vote yes for political isolation law or die.
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fracking same history over and over.

Arab countries flourishing and all of a sudden being a reign of chaos ruled by Al-qaeda lunatics thanks to the liberation by US NATO coalition.
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Trying to get information on the 3rd plotter Adel Tarhoni.

The only English language reports are from August/September 2011. He was freed from a Tripoli jail by a Misratah Brigade during the battle for Tripoli.

He was took part in the capture of Sirte - which means he was fighting with militias from Misratah

[link to www.aljazeera.com]

His last name means he is a member of the Tarhouna tribe, which is one of the largest tribes in Western Libya (Tripoli area).

UPDATE - He leads a Misratan Brigade. The militias that surrounded government ministries were mostly from Misrata. Tarhoni was the public face of the Moog Moogs who occupied Tripoli until the isolation law was passed.

Everyone knew the Islamists benefitted from the Moog Moogs' actions - Now we know the Islamists were directing those actions.
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Related???

Leader of Tunisian Ansar al Sharia declares war on Tunisian authorities

[link to translate.google.com]

This guy founded Ansar al Sharia in Tunisia in 2011. It's been a political movement in the country, leading protests against Western influences

It is estimated to have up to 100k members.

Here's wiki entry on Ansar al Sharia in Tunisia

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Is this puffing?? Or is there a possibility of civil war in stable middle class Tunisia?? Its economy has been improving recently

FYI - Tunisia borders Libya. There have been allegations that Tunisia's "establishment" Ansar al Sharia was working w/ Libya's Ansar al Sharia

source: Library of Congress Report on Al Qaeda in Libya

[link to www.kronosadvisory.com]
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First time it's been published in English - Full Text of Political Isolation Law

[link to www.libyaherald.com]
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This Economist article summarizes everything EXCEPT it says Libya barely averted a coup - the political leadership is being forced to resign - Many think that was a coup...

[link to www.economist.com]
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Update - 3 Months Later...

The secular politicians have all been forced to resign. Moslem Brotherhood members now hold all the important positions in the Libyan government and now this...

[link to www.libyaherald.com]

Thousand militia vehicles in Tripoli as revolutionaries announce support for new Chief of Staff

More than a thousand vehicles belonging to the Libya Shield forces for Central and Western Regions are reported to have arrived in Tripoli over the past four days. The troops have been deployed to various military locations in and around the capital. The move is to defend it from forces causing instability or planning a move to impose their will on Congress and the government by force.

It is the largest mobilisation since the liberation and follows the decision by president of General National Congress (GNC) Nuri Abu Sahmain to order the Libya Shield to secure strategic locations in the capital and provide overall security there. The decision was authorised by the President of Congress as well as the newly-appointed Minister of Defence, Abdullah Al-Thinni, and the new Army Chief of Staff, Abdulsalam Al-Obaidi.

The militias are occupying the capital to ensure that the guys they installed, through threats of force, remain in power...

Note - new President, new Minister of Defense, new Army Chief of Staff...

Why is this never mentioned in all the Benghazi coverage?
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Now I see why the MB is being compared to Nazis.
"The earth is mother of us all, for she is just; but you, because you are unjust have pretended that she is your mother alone; and if you do not stop, I will not permit you to remain upon her."

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Now I see why the MB is being compared to Nazis.
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The Nazis and MB cooperated in World War 2. They shared two common enemies, the British and the Jws.
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