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The Ascension of JESUS CHRIST --> Please post your favorite Sermon or Video clip !!! What are the theological implications of the Ascension?

 
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Yeah, why can't "taken up into heaven" be more literal? He was literally taken up by a spaceship into space (heaven).
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from the Talmud of Jmmanuel--
After Jmmanuel's last talk with his disciples, a "great light," having a metallic glitter in the sunshine, comes down from the sky and takes Jmmanuel aboard, ascends (the Ascension) and transports him to Damascus.

Jmmanuel nick-named Jesus, was taken away in a UFO.
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Abducted by aliens...
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Billions and billions of planets are innabited in the universe.
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The Heavens are going to roll up like a scroll. As a matter of fact the Heavens and the earth will flee as the New Heavens and New Earth come down. Read Revelation. That is my point. You are straying from the word, and the end result is deception.
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Holy literal reading, Batman.
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It is literal. Should we trust you, or Scripture?
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Billions and billions of planets are innabited in the universe.
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The Heavens are going to roll up like a scroll. As a matter of fact the Heavens and the earth will flee as the New Heavens and New Earth come down. Read Revelation. That is my point. You are straying from the word, and the end result is deception.
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Holy literal reading, Batman.
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It is literal. Should we trust you, or Scripture?
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It is scriptural. From bible.cc Isaiah 34:4And all the host of heaven shall be dissolved, and the heavens shall be rolled together as a scroll: and all their host shall fall down, as the leaf falls off from the vine, and as a falling fig from the fig tree.

And again: Revelation 6:14And the heavens departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places.

Revelation 20:11Then I saw a great white throne and him who was seated on it. The earth and the heavens fled from his presence, and there was no place for them.

Revelation 21:1And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.

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Billions and billions of planets are innabited in the universe.
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The Heavens are going to roll up like a scroll. As a matter of fact the Heavens and the earth will flee as the New Heavens and New Earth come down. Read Revelation. That is my point. You are straying from the word, and the end result is deception.
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Holy literal reading, Batman.
 Quoting: ElectricKoolaid


It is literal. Should we trust you, or Scripture?
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The bible and Curan are fetiches books:

Words eventually became fetishes, more especially those which were regarded as God’s words; in this way the sacred books of many religions have become fetishistic prisons incarcerating the spiritual imagination of man. Moses’ very effort against fetishes became a supreme fetish; his commandment was later used to stultify art and to retard the enjoyment and adoration of the beautiful.

In olden times the fetish word of authority was a fear-inspiring doctrine, the most terrible of all tyrants which enslave men. A doctrinal fetish will lead mortal man to betray himself into the clutches of bigotry, fanaticism, superstition, intolerance, and the most atrocious of barbarous cruelties. Modern respect for wisdom and truth is but the recent escape from the fetish-making tendency up to the higher levels of thinking and reasoning. Concerning the accumulated fetish writings which various religionists hold as sacred books, it is not only believed that what is in the book is true, but also that every truth is contained in the book. If one of these sacred books happens to speak of the earth as being flat, then, for long generations, otherwise sane men and women will refuse to accept positive evidence that the planet is round.

The spirits of God are Here and Now. They transmit the truth to us.
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The Heavens are going to roll up like a scroll. As a matter of fact the Heavens and the earth will flee as the New Heavens and New Earth come down. Read Revelation. That is my point. You are straying from the word, and the end result is deception.
 Quoting: Jesus Christ is the way


Holy literal reading, Batman.
 Quoting: ElectricKoolaid


It is literal. Should we trust you, or Scripture?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 910582


The bible and Curan are fetiches books:

Words eventually became fetishes, more especially those which were regarded as God’s words; in this way the sacred books of many religions have become fetishistic prisons incarcerating the spiritual imagination of man. Moses’ very effort against fetishes became a supreme fetish; his commandment was later used to stultify art and to retard the enjoyment and adoration of the beautiful.

In olden times the fetish word of authority was a fear-inspiring doctrine, the most terrible of all tyrants which enslave men. A doctrinal fetish will lead mortal man to betray himself into the clutches of bigotry, fanaticism, superstition, intolerance, and the most atrocious of barbarous cruelties. Modern respect for wisdom and truth is but the recent escape from the fetish-making tendency up to the higher levels of thinking and reasoning. Concerning the accumulated fetish writings which various religionists hold as sacred books, it is not only believed that what is in the book is true, but also that every truth is contained in the book. If one of these sacred books happens to speak of the earth as being flat, then, for long generations, otherwise sane men and women will refuse to accept positive evidence that the planet is round.

The spirits of God are Here and Now. They transmit the truth to us.
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The Heavens are going to roll up like a scroll. As a matter of fact the Heavens and the earth will flee as the New Heavens and New Earth come down. Read Revelation. That is my point. You are straying from the word, and the end result is deception.
 Quoting: Jesus Christ is the way


Holy literal reading, Batman.
 Quoting: ElectricKoolaid


It is literal. Should we trust you, or Scripture?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 910582


The bible and Curan are fetiches books:

Words eventually became fetishes, more especially those which were regarded as God’s words; in this way the sacred books of many religions have become fetishistic prisons incarcerating the spiritual imagination of man. Moses’ very effort against fetishes became a supreme fetish; his commandment was later used to stultify art and to retard the enjoyment and adoration of the beautiful.

In olden times the fetish word of authority was a fear-inspiring doctrine, the most terrible of all tyrants which enslave men. A doctrinal fetish will lead mortal man to betray himself into the clutches of bigotry, fanaticism, superstition, intolerance, and the most atrocious of barbarous cruelties. Modern respect for wisdom and truth is but the recent escape from the fetish-making tendency up to the higher levels of thinking and reasoning. Concerning the accumulated fetish writings which various religionists hold as sacred books, it is not only believed that what is in the book is true, but also that every truth is contained in the book. If one of these sacred books happens to speak of the earth as being flat, then, for long generations, otherwise sane men and women will refuse to accept positive evidence that the planet is round.

The spirits of God are Here and Now. They transmit the truth to us.
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gods plural is accurate. the rotes that are being transmitted is dispelling and breaking up the nonsense.

at least for some of us.
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Time to wipe the dust from my feet.
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Time to wipe the dust from my feet.
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in dust trials - yes, time to redeem them.

only you, will know the hour. the hour that redeems the minutes and seconds of in dust trials.
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The Heavens are going to roll up like a scroll. As a matter of fact the Heavens and the earth will flee as the New Heavens and New Earth come down. Read Revelation. That is my point. You are straying from the word, and the end result is deception.
 Quoting: Jesus Christ is the way


Holy literal reading, Batman.
 Quoting: ElectricKoolaid


It is literal. Should we trust you, or Scripture?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 910582


The bible and Curan are fetiches books:

Words eventually became fetishes, more especially those which were regarded as God’s words; in this way the sacred books of many religions have become fetishistic prisons incarcerating the spiritual imagination of man. Moses’ very effort against fetishes became a supreme fetish; his commandment was later used to stultify art and to retard the enjoyment and adoration of the beautiful.

In olden times the fetish word of authority was a fear-inspiring doctrine, the most terrible of all tyrants which enslave men. A doctrinal fetish will lead mortal man to betray himself into the clutches of bigotry, fanaticism, superstition, intolerance, and the most atrocious of barbarous cruelties. Modern respect for wisdom and truth is but the recent escape from the fetish-making tendency up to the higher levels of thinking and reasoning. Concerning the accumulated fetish writings which various religionists hold as sacred books, it is not only believed that what is in the book is true, but also that every truth is contained in the book. If one of these sacred books happens to speak of the earth as being flat, then, for long generations, otherwise sane men and women will refuse to accept positive evidence that the planet is round.

The spirits of God are Here and Now. They transmit the truth to us.
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The Holy bible is the true Word of God. If you want proof just look at all the prophecies that have come true. There are much too many to name. This Urantia book you are talking about didn't come into existence until the 1950's or later. Plus it was written, supposedly by aliens lol. Why are you believing that book over the living bible?

The time is short, turn to Jesus Christ, and His Word before it is too late! Don't let Satan steel your soul!

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Yeah, why can't "taken up into heaven" be more literal? He was literally taken up by a spaceship into space (heaven).
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Holy literal reading, Batman.
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It is literal. Should we trust you, or Scripture?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 910582


The bible and Curan are fetiches books:

Words eventually became fetishes, more especially those which were regarded as God’s words; in this way the sacred books of many religions have become fetishistic prisons incarcerating the spiritual imagination of man. Moses’ very effort against fetishes became a supreme fetish; his commandment was later used to stultify art and to retard the enjoyment and adoration of the beautiful.

In olden times the fetish word of authority was a fear-inspiring doctrine, the most terrible of all tyrants which enslave men. A doctrinal fetish will lead mortal man to betray himself into the clutches of bigotry, fanaticism, superstition, intolerance, and the most atrocious of barbarous cruelties. Modern respect for wisdom and truth is but the recent escape from the fetish-making tendency up to the higher levels of thinking and reasoning. Concerning the accumulated fetish writings which various religionists hold as sacred books, it is not only believed that what is in the book is true, but also that every truth is contained in the book. If one of these sacred books happens to speak of the earth as being flat, then, for long generations, otherwise sane men and women will refuse to accept positive evidence that the planet is round.

The spirits of God are Here and Now. They transmit the truth to us.
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The Holy bible is the true Word of God. If you want proof just look at all the prophecies that have come true. There are much too many to name. This Urantia book you are talking about didn't come into existence until the 1950's or later. Plus it was written, supposedly by aliens lol. Why are you believing that book over the living bible?

The time is short, turn to Jesus Christ, and His Word before it is too late! Don't let Satan steal your soul!


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Holy literal reading, Batman.
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It is literal. Should we trust you, or Scripture?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 910582


The bible and Curan are fetiches books:

Words eventually became fetishes, more especially those which were regarded as God’s words; in this way the sacred books of many religions have become fetishistic prisons incarcerating the spiritual imagination of man. Moses’ very effort against fetishes became a supreme fetish; his commandment was later used to stultify art and to retard the enjoyment and adoration of the beautiful.

In olden times the fetish word of authority was a fear-inspiring doctrine, the most terrible of all tyrants which enslave men. A doctrinal fetish will lead mortal man to betray himself into the clutches of bigotry, fanaticism, superstition, intolerance, and the most atrocious of barbarous cruelties. Modern respect for wisdom and truth is but the recent escape from the fetish-making tendency up to the higher levels of thinking and reasoning. Concerning the accumulated fetish writings which various religionists hold as sacred books, it is not only believed that what is in the book is true, but also that every truth is contained in the book. If one of these sacred books happens to speak of the earth as being flat, then, for long generations, otherwise sane men and women will refuse to accept positive evidence that the planet is round.

The spirits of God are Here and Now. They transmit the truth to us.
 Quoting: Orange



The Holy bible is the true Word of God. If you want proof just look at all the prophecies that have come true. There are much too many to name. This Urantia book you are talking about didn't come into existence until the 1950's or later. Plus it was written, supposedly by aliens lol. Why are you believing that book over the living bible?

The time is short, turn to Jesus Christ, and His Word before it is too late! Don't let Satan steel your soul!

oneway08
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Wrotte Paul and Matthew:

9 For we know in part, and we prophesy in part.


12 For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known.

1 Cor. 13

.18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth

Matthew 28


Jesu/Michael has the power to send us a better revelation of truth. -The Urantia book-
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It is literal. Should we trust you, or Scripture?
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The bible and Curan are fetiches books:

Words eventually became fetishes, more especially those which were regarded as God’s words; in this way the sacred books of many religions have become fetishistic prisons incarcerating the spiritual imagination of man. Moses’ very effort against fetishes became a supreme fetish; his commandment was later used to stultify art and to retard the enjoyment and adoration of the beautiful.

In olden times the fetish word of authority was a fear-inspiring doctrine, the most terrible of all tyrants which enslave men. A doctrinal fetish will lead mortal man to betray himself into the clutches of bigotry, fanaticism, superstition, intolerance, and the most atrocious of barbarous cruelties. Modern respect for wisdom and truth is but the recent escape from the fetish-making tendency up to the higher levels of thinking and reasoning. Concerning the accumulated fetish writings which various religionists hold as sacred books, it is not only believed that what is in the book is true, but also that every truth is contained in the book. If one of these sacred books happens to speak of the earth as being flat, then, for long generations, otherwise sane men and women will refuse to accept positive evidence that the planet is round.

The spirits of God are Here and Now. They transmit the truth to us.
 Quoting: Orange



The Holy bible is the true Word of God. If you want proof just look at all the prophecies that have come true. There are much too many to name. This Urantia book you are talking about didn't come into existence until the 1950's or later. Plus it was written, supposedly by aliens lol. Why are you believing that book over the living bible?

The time is short, turn to Jesus Christ, and His Word before it is too late! Don't let Satan steel your soul!

oneway08
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Wrotte Paul and Matthew:

9 For we know in part, and we prophesy in part.


12 For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known.

1 Cor. 13

.18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth

Matthew 28


Jesu/Michael has the power to send us a better revelation of truth. -The Urantia book-
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There is no such thing as a better revelation apart from His word.

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The bible and Curan are fetiches books:

Words eventually became fetishes, more especially those which were regarded as God’s words; in this way the sacred books of many religions have become fetishistic prisons incarcerating the spiritual imagination of man. Moses’ very effort against fetishes became a supreme fetish; his commandment was later used to stultify art and to retard the enjoyment and adoration of the beautiful.

In olden times the fetish word of authority was a fear-inspiring doctrine, the most terrible of all tyrants which enslave men. A doctrinal fetish will lead mortal man to betray himself into the clutches of bigotry, fanaticism, superstition, intolerance, and the most atrocious of barbarous cruelties. Modern respect for wisdom and truth is but the recent escape from the fetish-making tendency up to the higher levels of thinking and reasoning. Concerning the accumulated fetish writings which various religionists hold as sacred books, it is not only believed that what is in the book is true, but also that every truth is contained in the book. If one of these sacred books happens to speak of the earth as being flat, then, for long generations, otherwise sane men and women will refuse to accept positive evidence that the planet is round.

The spirits of God are Here and Now. They transmit the truth to us.
 Quoting: Orange



The Holy bible is the true Word of God. If you want proof just look at all the prophecies that have come true. There are much too many to name. This Urantia book you are talking about didn't come into existence until the 1950's or later. Plus it was written, supposedly by aliens lol. Why are you believing that book over the living bible?

The time is short, turn to Jesus Christ, and His Word before it is too late! Don't let Satan steel your soul!

oneway08
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Wrotte Paul and Matthew:

9 For we know in part, and we prophesy in part.


12 For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known.

1 Cor. 13

.18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth

Matthew 28


Jesu/Michael has the power to send us a better revelation of truth. -The Urantia book-
 Quoting: Orange


There is no such thing as a better revelation apart from His word.

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Jesus was and is the word of God but he didn't wrotte the new testament...
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Read the origin of the four gosples:


8. Previous Written Records

(1341.2) 121:8.1 As far as possible, consistent with our mandate, we have endeavored to utilize and to some extent co-ordinate the existing records having to do with the life of Jesus on Urantia. Although we have enjoyed access to the lost record of the Apostle Andrew and have benefited from the collaboration of a vast host of celestial beings who were on earth during the times of Michael’s bestowal (notably his now Personalized Adjuster), it has been our purpose also to make use of the so-called Gospels of Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John.

(1341.3) 121:8.2 These New Testament records had their origin in the following circumstances:

(1341.4) 121:8.3 1. The Gospel by Mark. John Mark wrote the earliest (excepting the notes of Andrew), briefest, and most simple record of Jesus’ life. He presented the Master as a minister, as man among men. Although Mark was a lad lingering about many of the scenes which he depicts, his record is in reality the Gospel according to Simon Peter. He was early associated with Peter; later with Paul. Mark wrote this record at the instigation of Peter and on the earnest petition of the church at Rome. Knowing how consistently the Master refused to write out his teachings when on earth and in the flesh, Mark, like the apostles and other leading disciples, was hesitant to put them in writing. But Peter felt the church at Rome required the assistance of such a written narrative, and Mark consented to undertake its preparation. He made many notes before Peter died in A.D. 67, and in accordance with the outline approved by Peter and for the church at Rome, he began his writing soon after Peter’s death. The Gospel was completed near the end of A.D. 68. Mark wrote entirely from his own memory and Peter’s memory. The record has since been considerably changed, numerous passages having been taken out and some later matter added at the end to replace the latter one fifth of the original Gospel, which was lost from the first manuscript before it was ever copied. This record by Mark, in conjunction with Andrew’s and Matthew’s notes, was the written basis of all subsequent Gospel narratives which sought to portray the life and teachings of Jesus.

(1341.5) 121:8.4 2. The Gospel of Matthew. The so-called Gospel according to Matthew is the record of the Master’s life which was written for the edification of Jewish Christians. The author of this record constantly seeks to show in Jesus’ life that much which he did was that “it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophet.” Matthew’s Gospel portrays Jesus as a son of David, picturing him as showing great respect for the law and the prophets.

(1341.6) 121:8.5 The Apostle Matthew did not write this Gospel. It was written by Isador, one of his disciples, who had as a help in his work not only Matthew’s personal remembrance of these events but also a certain record which the latter had made of the sayings of Jesus directly after the crucifixion. This record by Matthew was written in Aramaic; Isador wrote in Greek. There was no intent to deceive in accrediting the production to Matthew. It was the custom in those days for pupils thus to honor their teachers.

(1342.1) 121:8.6 Matthew’s original record was edited and added to in A.D. 40 just before he left Jerusalem to engage in evangelistic preaching. It was a private record, the last copy having been destroyed in the burning of a Syrian monastery in A.D. 416.

(1342.2) 121:8.7 Isador escaped from Jerusalem in A.D. 70 after the investment of the city by the armies of Titus, taking with him to Pella a copy of Matthew’s notes. In the year 71, while living at Pella, Isador wrote the Gospel according to Matthew. He also had with him the first four fifths of Mark’s narrative.

(1342.3) 121:8.8 3. The Gospel by Luke. Luke, the physician of Antioch in Pisidia, was a gentile convert of Paul, and he wrote quite a different story of the Master’s life. He began to follow Paul and learn of the life and teachings of Jesus in A.D. 47. Luke preserves much of the “grace of the Lord Jesus Christ” in his record as he gathered up these facts from Paul and others. Luke presents the Master as “the friend of publicans and sinners.” He did not formulate his many notes into the Gospel until after Paul’s death. Luke wrote in the year 82 in Achaia. He planned three books dealing with the history of Christ and Christianity but died in A.D. 90 just before he finished the second of these works, the “Acts of the Apostles.”

(1342.4) 121:8.9 As material for the compilation of his Gospel, Luke first depended upon the story of Jesus’ life as Paul had related it to him. Luke’s Gospel is, therefore, in some ways the Gospel according to Paul. But Luke had other sources of information. He not only interviewed scores of eyewitnesses to the numerous episodes of Jesus’ life which he records, but he also had with him a copy of Mark’s Gospel, that is, the first four fifths, Isador’s narrative, and a brief record made in the year A.D. 78 at Antioch by a believer named Cedes. Luke also had a mutilated and much-edited copy of some notes purported to have been made by the Apostle Andrew.

(1342.5) 121:8.10 4. The Gospel of John. The Gospel according to John relates much of Jesus’ work in Judea and around Jerusalem which is not contained in the other records. This is the so-called Gospel according to John the son of Zebedee, and though John did not write it, he did inspire it. Since its first writing it has several times been edited to make it appear to have been written by John himself. When this record was made, John had the other Gospels, and he saw that much had been omitted; accordingly, in the year A.D. 101 he encouraged his associate, Nathan, a Greek Jew from Caesarea, to begin the writing. John supplied his material from memory and by reference to the three records already in existence. He had no written records of his own. The Epistle known as “First John” was written by John himself as a covering letter for the work which Nathan executed under his direction.

(1342.6) 121:8.11 All these writers presented honest pictures of Jesus as they saw, remembered, or had learned of him, and as their concepts of these distant events were affected by their subsequent espousal of Paul’s theology of Christianity. And these records, imperfect as they are, have been sufficient to change the course of the history of Urantia for almost two thousand years....

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The Urantia wasn't transmited by aliens but by celestials.


The Inhabited Worlds

(559.1) 49:0.1 ALL mortal-inhabited worlds are evolutionary in origin and nature. These spheres are the spawning ground, the evolutionary cradle, of the mortal races of time and space. Each unit of the ascendant life is a veritable training school for the stage of existence just ahead, and this is true of every stage of man’s progressive Paradise ascent; just as true of the initial mortal experience on an evolutionary planet as of the final universe headquarters school of the Melchizedeks, a school which is not attended by ascending mortals until just before their translation to the regime of the superuniverse and the attainment of first-stage spirit existence.

(559.2) 49:0.2 All inhabited worlds are basically grouped for celestial administration into the local systems, and each of these local systems is limited to about one thousand evolutionary worlds. This limitation is by the decree of the Ancients of Days, and it pertains to actual evolutionary planets whereon mortals of survival status are living. Neither worlds finally settled in light and life nor planets in the prehuman stage of life development are reckoned in this group...

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Enoch ascended more than once and walked with god........
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Enoch ascended more than once and walked with god........
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Enoch ascended only one time and..


4. The Four and Twenty Counselors

(513.4) 45:4.1 At the center of the seven angelic residential circles on Jerusem is located the headquarters of the Urantia advisory council, the four and twenty counselors. John the Revelator called them the four and twenty elders: “And round about the throne were four and twenty seats, and upon the seats I saw four and twenty elders sitting, clothed in white raiment.” The throne in the center of this group is the judgment seat of the presiding archangel, the throne of the resurrection roll call of mercy and justice for all Satania. This judgment seat has always been on Jerusem, but the twenty-four surrounding seats were placed in position no more than nineteen hundred years ago, soon after Christ Michael was elevated to the full sovereignty of Nebadon. These four and twenty counselors are his personal agents on Jerusem, and they have authority to represent the Master Son in all matters concerning the roll calls of Satania and in many other phases of the scheme of mortal ascension on the isolated worlds of the system. They are the designated agents for executing the special requests of Gabriel and the unusual mandates of Michael.

(513.5) 45:4.2 These twenty-four counselors have been recruited from the eight Urantia races, and the last of this group were assembled at the time of the resurrection roll call of Michael, nineteen hundred years ago. This Urantia advisory council is made up of the following members:

(513.6) 45:4.3 1. Onagar, the master mind of the pre-Planetary Prince age, who directed his fellows in the worship of “The Breath Giver.”

(513.7) 45:4.4 2. Mansant, the great teacher of the post-Planetary Prince age on Urantia, who pointed his fellows to the veneration of “The Great Light.”

(513.8) 45:4.5 3. Onamonalonton, a far-distant leader of the red man and the one who directed this race from the worship of many gods to the veneration of “The Great Spirit.”

(513.9) 45:4.6 4. Orlandof, a prince of the blue men and their leader in the recognition of the divinity of “The Supreme Chief.”

(513.10) 45:4.7 5. Porshunta, the oracle of the extinct orange race and the leader of this people in the worship of “The Great Teacher.”

(513.11) 45:4.8 6. Singlangton, the first of the yellow men to teach and lead his people in the worship of “One Truth” instead of many. Thousands of years ago the yellow man knew of the one God.

(513.12) 45:4.9 7. Fantad, the deliverer of the green men from darkness and their leader in the worship of “The One Source of Life.”

(513.13) 45:4.10 8. Orvonon, the enlightener of the indigo races and their leader in the onetime service of “The God of Gods.”

(514.1) 45:4.11 9. Adam, the discredited but rehabilitated planetary father of Urantia, a Material Son of God who was relegated to the likeness of mortal flesh, but who survived and was subsequently elevated to this position by the decree of Michael.

(514.2) 45:4.12 10. Eve, the mother of the violet race of Urantia, who suffered the penalty of default with her mate and was also rehabilitated with him and assigned to serve with this group of mortal survivors.

(514.3) 45:4.13 11. Enoch, the first of the mortals of Urantia to fuse with the Thought Adjuster during the mortal life in the flesh.

(514.4) 45:4.14 12. Moses, the emancipator of a remnant of the submerged violet race and the instigator of the revival of the worship of the Universal Father under the name of “The God of Israel.”

(514.5) 45:4.15 13. Elijah, a translated soul of brilliant spiritual achievement during the post-Material Son age.
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Enoch ascended only one time and..


In the first section (chapters 1-21) Enoch, when already at the age of 365, is taken by two angels and made to pass through the seven heavens, one by one. The first heaven is found to be the place where the angels control atmospheric phenomena. In the second heaven he finds the prison for the rebel angels. In the third heaven he finds both paradise (as in 2 Cor 12:2) and hell for the men. The fourth heaven is the place of movements of the sun and of the moon which are described in detail. In the fifth heaven Enoch finds some Grigori that are grieved and he persuades them to resume their liturgical service. In the sixth heaven he finds the angels in charge of governing the cosmos and peoples.

In the second section (chapters 22-37) Enoch, now guided by Gabriel, is allowed to enter in the seventh heaven where he sees the Lord face to face. Afterwards he is anointed by Michael and becomes similar in appearance to the angels. The Lord asks the angel Vereviel to dictate to Enoch 360 books containing all that is knowable. Later, the Lord himself tells to Enoch the secrets of the creation up to the flood, which are unknown even to the angels. Enoch is finally sent back on the earth for thirty days.

The third section (chapters 38-68) is a list of doctrinal and ethical instructions given by Enoch to his sons: the main moral principle is the love for all the living beings (similar to the ethics found in the Testaments of the Twelve Patriarchs), particularly noticeable is the lack of interest for the sin of fornication and not once is the Law of Moses referred to; Enoch teaches the uselessness of intercessions. At the end of the thirty days Enoch is taken into the heaven forever.

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In the first section (chapters 1-21) Enoch, when already at the age of 365, is taken by two angels and made to pass through the seven heavens, one by one. The first heaven is found to be the place where the angels control atmospheric phenomena. In the second heaven he finds the prison for the rebel angels. In the third heaven he finds both paradise (as in 2 Cor 12:2) and hell for the men. The fourth heaven is the place of movements of the sun and of the moon which are described in detail. In the fifth heaven Enoch finds some Grigori that are grieved and he persuades them to resume their liturgical service. In the sixth heaven he finds the angels in charge of governing the cosmos and peoples.

In the second section (chapters 22-37) Enoch, now guided by Gabriel, is allowed to enter in the seventh heaven where he sees the Lord face to face. Afterwards he is anointed by Michael and becomes similar in appearance to the angels. The Lord asks the angel Vereviel to dictate to Enoch 360 books containing all that is knowable. Later, the Lord himself tells to Enoch the secrets of the creation up to the flood, which are unknown even to the angels. Enoch is finally sent back on the earth for thirty days.

The third section (chapters 38-68) is a list of doctrinal and ethical instructions given by Enoch to his sons: the main moral principle is the love for all the living beings (similar to the ethics found in the Testaments of the Twelve Patriarchs), particularly noticeable is the lack of interest for the sin of fornication and not once is the Law of Moses referred to; Enoch teaches the uselessness of intercessions. At the end of the thirty days Enoch is taken into the heaven forever.

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3. The Fifteenth Year (A.D. 9)...

... In the course of this year Jesus found a passage in the so-called Book of Enoch which influenced him in the later adoption of the term “Son of Man” as a designation for his bestowal mission on Urantia...

While turning all these problems over in his mind, he found in the synagogue library at Nazareth, among the apocalyptic books which he had been studying, this manuscript called “The Book of Enoch”; and though he was certain that it had not been written by Enoch of old, it proved very intriguing to him, and he read and reread it many times. There was one passage which particularly impressed him, a passage in which this term “Son of Man” appeared. The writer of this so-called Book of Enoch went on to tell about this Son of Man, describing the work he would do on earth and explaining that this Son of Man, before coming down on this earth to bring salvation to mankind, had walked through the courts of heavenly glory with his Father, the Father of all; and that he had turned his back upon all this grandeur and glory to come down on earth to proclaim salvation to needy mortals. As Jesus would read these passages (well understanding that much of the Eastern mysticism which had become admixed with these teachings was erroneous), he responded in his heart and recognized in his mind that of all the Messianic predictions of the Hebrew scriptures and of all the theories about the Jewish deliverer, none was so near the truth as this story tucked away in this only partially accredited Book of Enoch; and he then and there decided to adopt as his inaugural title “the Son of Man.” And this he did when he subsequently began his public work. Jesus had an unerring ability for the recognition of truth, and truth he never hesitated to embrace, no matter from what source it appeared to emanate...

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The Holy bible is the true Word of God. If you want proof just look at all the prophecies that have come true. There are much too many to name. This Urantia book you are talking about didn't come into existence until the 1950's or later. Plus it was written, supposedly by aliens lol. Why are you believing that book over the living bible?

The time is short, turn to Jesus Christ, and His Word before it is too late! Don't let Satan steel your soul!

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Wrotte Paul and Matthew:

9 For we know in part, and we prophesy in part.


12 For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known.

1 Cor. 13

.18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth

Matthew 28


Jesu/Michael has the power to send us a better revelation of truth. -The Urantia book-
 Quoting: Orange


There is no such thing as a better revelation apart from His word.

JesusBible
 Quoting: Troubled Waters...


Jesus was and is the word of God but he didn't wrotte the new testament...
 Quoting: Orange



How would you know that Jesus is the Son of God other than from the NT? If it wasn't for the NT you wouldn't even know that Jesus existed, right?

Either the whole bible is the true Word of God or it isn't. We can't pick and choose what scriptures we think are true and what scripture aren't. The bible has proven itself to be true time and time again. So why introduce another book, especially one with no proof of accuracy whatsoever?
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The Holy bible is the true Word of God. If you want proof just look at all the prophecies that have come true. There are much too many to name. This Urantia book you are talking about didn't come into existence until the 1950's or later. Plus it was written, supposedly by aliens lol. Why are you believing that book over the living bible?

The time is short, turn to Jesus Christ, and His Word before it is too late! Don't let Satan steel your soul!

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 Quoting: Troubled Waters...


Wrotte Paul and Matthew:

9 For we know in part, and we prophesy in part.


12 For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known.

1 Cor. 13

.18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth

Matthew 28


Jesu/Michael has the power to send us a better revelation of truth. -The Urantia book-
 Quoting: Orange


There is no such thing as a better revelation apart from His word.

JesusBible
 Quoting: Troubled Waters...


Jesus was and is the word of God but he didn't wrotte the new testament...
 Quoting: Orange


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Enoch ascended more than once and walked with god........
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No, it was only once, and he was taken (Raptured), b-cos he walked with God. Enoch represents the Church, as Noah is a representation of Israel.
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