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The Ascension of JESUS CHRIST --> Please post your favorite Sermon or Video clip !!! What are the theological implications of the Ascension?

 
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Wrotte Paul and Matthew:

9 For we know in part, and we prophesy in part.


12 For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known.

1 Cor. 13

.18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth

Matthew 28


Jesu/Michael has the power to send us a better revelation of truth. -The Urantia book-
 Quoting: Orange


There is no such thing as a better revelation apart from His word.

JesusBible
 Quoting: Troubled Waters...


Jesus was and is the word of God but he didn't wrotte the new testament...
 Quoting: Orange



How would you know that Jesus is the Son of God other than from the NT? If it wasn't for the NT you wouldn't even know that Jesus existed, right?

Either the whole bible is the true Word of God or it isn't. We can't pick and choose what scriptures we think are true and what scripture aren't. The bible has proven itself to be true time and time again. So why introduce another book, especially one with no proof of accuracy whatsoever?
hf
 Quoting: Troubled Waters...


We know God the same way we know Jesus by the spirit. Yes my parents were of christian faith, i think it's why i believed in Jesus..and because of the new testament, but now i continue to believe in Him with the Urantia book. You must read it to know it.

Why introducing a new book? possibly because of the muslims and this too:

During the psychologically unsettled times of the twentieth century, amid the economic upheavals, the moral crosscurrents, and the sociologic rip tides of the cyclonic transitions of a scientific era, thousands upon thousands of men and women have become humanly dislocated; they are anxious, restless, fearful, uncertain, and unsettled; as never before in the world’s history they need the consolation and stabilization of sound religion. In the face of unprecedented scientific achievement and mechanical development there is spiritual stagnation and philosophic chaos.

There is no danger in religion’s becoming more and more of a private matter — a personal experience — provided it does not lose its motivation for unselfish and loving social service. Religion has suffered from many secondary influences: sudden mixing of cultures, intermingling of creeds, diminution of ecclesiastical authority, changing of family life, together with urbanization and mechanization...

[link to www.urantia.org]
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There is no such thing as a better revelation apart from His word.

JesusBible
 Quoting: Troubled Waters...


Jesus was and is the word of God but he didn't wrotte the new testament...
 Quoting: Orange



How would you know that Jesus is the Son of God other than from the NT? If it wasn't for the NT you wouldn't even know that Jesus existed, right?

Either the whole bible is the true Word of God or it isn't. We can't pick and choose what scriptures we think are true and what scripture aren't. The bible has proven itself to be true time and time again. So why introduce another book, especially one with no proof of accuracy whatsoever?
hf
 Quoting: Troubled Waters...


We know God the same way we know Jesus by the spirit. Yes my parents were of christian faith, i think it's why i believed in Jesus..and because of the new testament, but now i continue to believe in Him with the Urantia book. You must read it to know it.

Why introducing a new book? possibly because of the muslims and this too:

During the psychologically unsettled times of the twentieth century, amid the economic upheavals, the moral crosscurrents, and the sociologic rip tides of the cyclonic transitions of a scientific era, thousands upon thousands of men and women have become humanly dislocated; they are anxious, restless, fearful, uncertain, and unsettled; as never before in the world’s history they need the consolation and stabilization of sound religion. In the face of unprecedented scientific achievement and mechanical development there is spiritual stagnation and philosophic chaos.

There is no danger in religion’s becoming more and more of a private matter — a personal experience — provided it does not lose its motivation for unselfish and loving social service. Religion has suffered from many secondary influences: sudden mixing of cultures, intermingling of creeds, diminution of ecclesiastical authority, changing of family life, together with urbanization and mechanization...

[link to www.urantia.org]
 Quoting: Orange



I still didn't get your point. What people need is the truth! The bible is the truth, unlike your Urantia book.

Satan will use any vehicle known to man to confuse you, and to lead you away from the truth. God's word is that truth, and Jesus is the Word of God.
DUST TO GLORY!!!
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Jesus was and is the word of God but he didn't wrotte the new testament...
 Quoting: Orange



How would you know that Jesus is the Son of God other than from the NT? If it wasn't for the NT you wouldn't even know that Jesus existed, right?

Either the whole bible is the true Word of God or it isn't. We can't pick and choose what scriptures we think are true and what scripture aren't. The bible has proven itself to be true time and time again. So why introduce another book, especially one with no proof of accuracy whatsoever?
hf
 Quoting: Troubled Waters...


We know God the same way we know Jesus by the spirit. Yes my parents were of christian faith, i think it's why i believed in Jesus..and because of the new testament, but now i continue to believe in Him with the Urantia book. You must read it to know it.

Why introducing a new book? possibly because of the muslims and this too:

During the psychologically unsettled times of the twentieth century, amid the economic upheavals, the moral crosscurrents, and the sociologic rip tides of the cyclonic transitions of a scientific era, thousands upon thousands of men and women have become humanly dislocated; they are anxious, restless, fearful, uncertain, and unsettled; as never before in the world’s history they need the consolation and stabilization of sound religion. In the face of unprecedented scientific achievement and mechanical development there is spiritual stagnation and philosophic chaos.

There is no danger in religion’s becoming more and more of a private matter — a personal experience — provided it does not lose its motivation for unselfish and loving social service. Religion has suffered from many secondary influences: sudden mixing of cultures, intermingling of creeds, diminution of ecclesiastical authority, changing of family life, together with urbanization and mechanization...

[link to www.urantia.org]
 Quoting: Orange



I still didn't get your point. What people need is the truth! The bible is the truth, unlike your Urantia book.

Satan will use any vehicle known to man to confuse you, and to lead you away from the truth. God's word is that truth, and Jesus is the Word of God.
 Quoting: Troubled Waters...


Said Jesus about the old testament:

4. The Talk with Nathaniel

(1767.3) 159:4.1 And then went Jesus over to Abila, where Nathaniel and his associates labored. Nathaniel was much bothered by some of Jesus’ pronouncements which seemed to detract from the authority of the recognized Hebrew scriptures. Accordingly, on this night, after the usual period of questions and answers, Nathaniel took Jesus away from the others and asked: “Master, could you trust me to know the truth about the Scriptures? I observe that you teach us only a portion of the sacred writings — the best as I view it — and I infer that you reject the teachings of the rabbis to the effect that the words of the law are the very words of God, having been with God in heaven even before the times of Abraham and Moses. What is the truth about the Scriptures?” When Jesus heard the question of his bewildered apostle, he answered:

(1767.4) 159:4.2 “Nathaniel, you have rightly judged; I do not regard the Scriptures as do the rabbis. I will talk with you about this matter on condition that you do not relate these things to your brethren, who are not all prepared to receive this teaching. The words of the law of Moses and the teachings of the Scriptures were not in existence before Abraham. Only in recent times have the Scriptures been gathered together as we now have them. While they contain the best of the higher thoughts and longings of the Jewish people, they also contain much that is far from being representative of the character and teachings of the Father in heaven; wherefore must I choose from among the better teachings those truths which are to be gleaned for the gospel of the kingdom.

(1767.5) 159:4.3 “These writings are the work of men, some of them holy men, others not so holy. The teachings of these books represent the views and extent of enlightenment of the times in which they had their origin. As a revelation of truth, the last are more dependable than the first. The Scriptures are faulty and altogether human in origin, but mistake not, they do constitute the best collection of religious wisdom and spiritual truth to be found in all the world at this time.

(1767.6) 159:4.4 “Many of these books were not written by the persons whose names they bear, but that in no way detracts from the value of the truths which they contain. If the story of Jonah should not be a fact, even if Jonah had never lived, still would the profound truth of this narrative, the love of God for Nineveh and the so-called heathen, be none the less precious in the eyes of all those who love their fellow men. The Scriptures are sacred because they present the thoughts and acts of men who were searching for God, and who in these writings left on record their highest concepts of righteousness, truth, and holiness. The Scriptures contain much that is true, very much, but in the light of your present teaching, you know that these writings also contain much that is misrepresentative of the Father in heaven, the loving God I have come to reveal to all the worlds...
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How would you know that Jesus is the Son of God other than from the NT? If it wasn't for the NT you wouldn't even know that Jesus existed, right?

Either the whole bible is the true Word of God or it isn't. We can't pick and choose what scriptures we think are true and what scripture aren't. The bible has proven itself to be true time and time again. So why introduce another book, especially one with no proof of accuracy whatsoever?
hf
 Quoting: Troubled Waters...


We know God the same way we know Jesus by the spirit. Yes my parents were of christian faith, i think it's why i believed in Jesus..and because of the new testament, but now i continue to believe in Him with the Urantia book. You must read it to know it.

Why introducing a new book? possibly because of the muslims and this too:

During the psychologically unsettled times of the twentieth century, amid the economic upheavals, the moral crosscurrents, and the sociologic rip tides of the cyclonic transitions of a scientific era, thousands upon thousands of men and women have become humanly dislocated; they are anxious, restless, fearful, uncertain, and unsettled; as never before in the world’s history they need the consolation and stabilization of sound religion. In the face of unprecedented scientific achievement and mechanical development there is spiritual stagnation and philosophic chaos.

There is no danger in religion’s becoming more and more of a private matter — a personal experience — provided it does not lose its motivation for unselfish and loving social service. Religion has suffered from many secondary influences: sudden mixing of cultures, intermingling of creeds, diminution of ecclesiastical authority, changing of family life, together with urbanization and mechanization...

[link to www.urantia.org]
 Quoting: Orange



I still didn't get your point. What people need is the truth! The bible is the truth, unlike your Urantia book.

Satan will use any vehicle known to man to confuse you, and to lead you away from the truth. God's word is that truth, and Jesus is the Word of God.
 Quoting: Troubled Waters...


Said Jesus about the old testament:

4. The Talk with Nathaniel

(1767.3) 159:4.1 And then went Jesus over to Abila, where Nathaniel and his associates labored. Nathaniel was much bothered by some of Jesus’ pronouncements which seemed to detract from the authority of the recognized Hebrew scriptures. Accordingly, on this night, after the usual period of questions and answers, Nathaniel took Jesus away from the others and asked: “Master, could you trust me to know the truth about the Scriptures? I observe that you teach us only a portion of the sacred writings — the best as I view it — and I infer that you reject the teachings of the rabbis to the effect that the words of the law are the very words of God, having been with God in heaven even before the times of Abraham and Moses. What is the truth about the Scriptures?” When Jesus heard the question of his bewildered apostle, he answered:

(1767.4) 159:4.2 “Nathaniel, you have rightly judged; I do not regard the Scriptures as do the rabbis. I will talk with you about this matter on condition that you do not relate these things to your brethren, who are not all prepared to receive this teaching. The words of the law of Moses and the teachings of the Scriptures were not in existence before Abraham. Only in recent times have the Scriptures been gathered together as we now have them. While they contain the best of the higher thoughts and longings of the Jewish people, they also contain much that is far from being representative of the character and teachings of the Father in heaven; wherefore must I choose from among the better teachings those truths which are to be gleaned for the gospel of the kingdom.

(1767.5) 159:4.3 “These writings are the work of men, some of them holy men, others not so holy. The teachings of these books represent the views and extent of enlightenment of the times in which they had their origin. As a revelation of truth, the last are more dependable than the first. The Scriptures are faulty and altogether human in origin, but mistake not, they do constitute the best collection of religious wisdom and spiritual truth to be found in all the world at this time.

(1767.6) 159:4.4 “Many of these books were not written by the persons whose names they bear, but that in no way detracts from the value of the truths which they contain. If the story of Jonah should not be a fact, even if Jonah had never lived, still would the profound truth of this narrative, the love of God for Nineveh and the so-called heathen, be none the less precious in the eyes of all those who love their fellow men. The Scriptures are sacred because they present the thoughts and acts of men who were searching for God, and who in these writings left on record their highest concepts of righteousness, truth, and holiness. The Scriptures contain much that is true, very much, but in the light of your present teaching, you know that these writings also contain much that is misrepresentative of the Father in heaven, the loving God I have come to reveal to all the worlds...
 Quoting: Orange



This is total nonsense!!!

You are regarding this book (Urantia) as truth, and are rejecting the REAL TRUTH.

Rev 22:18
For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:

DUST TO GLORY!!!
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We know God the same way we know Jesus by the spirit. Yes my parents were of christian faith, i think it's why i believed in Jesus..and because of the new testament, but now i continue to believe in Him with the Urantia book. You must read it to know it.

Why introducing a new book? possibly because of the muslims and this too:

During the psychologically unsettled times of the twentieth century, amid the economic upheavals, the moral crosscurrents, and the sociologic rip tides of the cyclonic transitions of a scientific era, thousands upon thousands of men and women have become humanly dislocated; they are anxious, restless, fearful, uncertain, and unsettled; as never before in the world’s history they need the consolation and stabilization of sound religion. In the face of unprecedented scientific achievement and mechanical development there is spiritual stagnation and philosophic chaos.

There is no danger in religion’s becoming more and more of a private matter — a personal experience — provided it does not lose its motivation for unselfish and loving social service. Religion has suffered from many secondary influences: sudden mixing of cultures, intermingling of creeds, diminution of ecclesiastical authority, changing of family life, together with urbanization and mechanization...

[link to www.urantia.org]
 Quoting: Orange



I still didn't get your point. What people need is the truth! The bible is the truth, unlike your Urantia book.

Satan will use any vehicle known to man to confuse you, and to lead you away from the truth. God's word is that truth, and Jesus is the Word of God.
 Quoting: Troubled Waters...


Said Jesus about the old testament:

4. The Talk with Nathaniel

(1767.3) 159:4.1 And then went Jesus over to Abila, where Nathaniel and his associates labored. Nathaniel was much bothered by some of Jesus’ pronouncements which seemed to detract from the authority of the recognized Hebrew scriptures. Accordingly, on this night, after the usual period of questions and answers, Nathaniel took Jesus away from the others and asked: “Master, could you trust me to know the truth about the Scriptures? I observe that you teach us only a portion of the sacred writings — the best as I view it — and I infer that you reject the teachings of the rabbis to the effect that the words of the law are the very words of God, having been with God in heaven even before the times of Abraham and Moses. What is the truth about the Scriptures?” When Jesus heard the question of his bewildered apostle, he answered:

(1767.4) 159:4.2 “Nathaniel, you have rightly judged; I do not regard the Scriptures as do the rabbis. I will talk with you about this matter on condition that you do not relate these things to your brethren, who are not all prepared to receive this teaching. The words of the law of Moses and the teachings of the Scriptures were not in existence before Abraham. Only in recent times have the Scriptures been gathered together as we now have them. While they contain the best of the higher thoughts and longings of the Jewish people, they also contain much that is far from being representative of the character and teachings of the Father in heaven; wherefore must I choose from among the better teachings those truths which are to be gleaned for the gospel of the kingdom.

(1767.5) 159:4.3 “These writings are the work of men, some of them holy men, others not so holy. The teachings of these books represent the views and extent of enlightenment of the times in which they had their origin. As a revelation of truth, the last are more dependable than the first. The Scriptures are faulty and altogether human in origin, but mistake not, they do constitute the best collection of religious wisdom and spiritual truth to be found in all the world at this time.

(1767.6) 159:4.4 “Many of these books were not written by the persons whose names they bear, but that in no way detracts from the value of the truths which they contain. If the story of Jonah should not be a fact, even if Jonah had never lived, still would the profound truth of this narrative, the love of God for Nineveh and the so-called heathen, be none the less precious in the eyes of all those who love their fellow men. The Scriptures are sacred because they present the thoughts and acts of men who were searching for God, and who in these writings left on record their highest concepts of righteousness, truth, and holiness. The Scriptures contain much that is true, very much, but in the light of your present teaching, you know that these writings also contain much that is misrepresentative of the Father in heaven, the loving God I have come to reveal to all the worlds...
 Quoting: Orange



This is total nonsense!!!

You are regarding this book (Urantia) as truth, and are rejecting the REAL TRUTH.

Rev 22:18
For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:

 Quoting: Troubled Waters...


Uh...he's just talking about THAT book. Revelations. You know that, right?
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We know God the same way we know Jesus by the spirit. Yes my parents were of christian faith, i think it's why i believed in Jesus..and because of the new testament, but now i continue to believe in Him with the Urantia book. You must read it to know it.

Why introducing a new book? possibly because of the muslims and this too:

During the psychologically unsettled times of the twentieth century, amid the economic upheavals, the moral crosscurrents, and the sociologic rip tides of the cyclonic transitions of a scientific era, thousands upon thousands of men and women have become humanly dislocated; they are anxious, restless, fearful, uncertain, and unsettled; as never before in the world’s history they need the consolation and stabilization of sound religion. In the face of unprecedented scientific achievement and mechanical development there is spiritual stagnation and philosophic chaos.

There is no danger in religion’s becoming more and more of a private matter — a personal experience — provided it does not lose its motivation for unselfish and loving social service. Religion has suffered from many secondary influences: sudden mixing of cultures, intermingling of creeds, diminution of ecclesiastical authority, changing of family life, together with urbanization and mechanization...

[link to www.urantia.org]
 Quoting: Orange



I still didn't get your point. What people need is the truth! The bible is the truth, unlike your Urantia book.

Satan will use any vehicle known to man to confuse you, and to lead you away from the truth. God's word is that truth, and Jesus is the Word of God.
 Quoting: Troubled Waters...


Said Jesus about the old testament:

4. The Talk with Nathaniel

(1767.3) 159:4.1 And then went Jesus over to Abila, where Nathaniel and his associates labored. Nathaniel was much bothered by some of Jesus’ pronouncements which seemed to detract from the authority of the recognized Hebrew scriptures. Accordingly, on this night, after the usual period of questions and answers, Nathaniel took Jesus away from the others and asked: “Master, could you trust me to know the truth about the Scriptures? I observe that you teach us only a portion of the sacred writings — the best as I view it — and I infer that you reject the teachings of the rabbis to the effect that the words of the law are the very words of God, having been with God in heaven even before the times of Abraham and Moses. What is the truth about the Scriptures?” When Jesus heard the question of his bewildered apostle, he answered:

(1767.4) 159:4.2 “Nathaniel, you have rightly judged; I do not regard the Scriptures as do the rabbis. I will talk with you about this matter on condition that you do not relate these things to your brethren, who are not all prepared to receive this teaching. The words of the law of Moses and the teachings of the Scriptures were not in existence before Abraham. Only in recent times have the Scriptures been gathered together as we now have them. While they contain the best of the higher thoughts and longings of the Jewish people, they also contain much that is far from being representative of the character and teachings of the Father in heaven; wherefore must I choose from among the better teachings those truths which are to be gleaned for the gospel of the kingdom.

(1767.5) 159:4.3 “These writings are the work of men, some of them holy men, others not so holy. The teachings of these books represent the views and extent of enlightenment of the times in which they had their origin. As a revelation of truth, the last are more dependable than the first. The Scriptures are faulty and altogether human in origin, but mistake not, they do constitute the best collection of religious wisdom and spiritual truth to be found in all the world at this time.

(1767.6) 159:4.4 “Many of these books were not written by the persons whose names they bear, but that in no way detracts from the value of the truths which they contain. If the story of Jonah should not be a fact, even if Jonah had never lived, still would the profound truth of this narrative, the love of God for Nineveh and the so-called heathen, be none the less precious in the eyes of all those who love their fellow men. The Scriptures are sacred because they present the thoughts and acts of men who were searching for God, and who in these writings left on record their highest concepts of righteousness, truth, and holiness. The Scriptures contain much that is true, very much, but in the light of your present teaching, you know that these writings also contain much that is misrepresentative of the Father in heaven, the loving God I have come to reveal to all the worlds...
 Quoting: Orange



This is total nonsense!!!

You are regarding this book (Urantia) as truth, and are rejecting the REAL TRUTH.

Rev 22:18
For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:

 Quoting: Troubled Waters...


When in temporary exile on Patmos, John wrote the Book of Revelation, which you now have in greatly abridged and distorted form. This Book of Revelation contains the surviving fragments of a great revelation, large portions of which were lost, other portions of which were removed, subsequent to John’s writing. It is preserved in only fragmentary and adulterated form...

[link to www.urantia.org]

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I've been doing a little research, okay, a lot of research about how history repeats itself and about fractal Truth, and I am amazed at the implications. I also look at synchronicity of all religions.

I believe every religions has a bit of Truth in it and when we take a little from each we can discover Ghod's Truth.

According to the Greek Orthodox faith, Ascension Day happens this year on June 13, 2013. I want to believe the rapture will take place on this date if not sooner, because May 9, 2013 is Ascension Day in the Roman faiths.
 Quoting: MsRhuby!


You have some interesting observations. I disagree about the other religions having anything outside of the natural in truths. The truth, the life and the way is Christ. No one comes to God except through the Son.

As far as the rapture is concerned, it happens at the coming of the Son of Man. We are told that no man and no angels in Heaven know the hour and day, but we know the season from the following. It is Spring. From bible.cc Matthew 24:32Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh: 33So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors.

The fractal part is interesting and consistent with the works of Christ and anything else in the bible for that matter. Our faith is a seed faith. Christ even compares Heaven to the mustard seed.

At Christ death on the cross, the skies darkened and the earth quaked. What does that sound like? A microcosm for the coming of the Son of Man doesn't it?

The deliverance of God's people would be in some measure similar to the Jews exodus from egypt I think. Look at this verse from bible.cc KJV Numbers 33:3 And they departed from Rameses in the first month, on the fifteenth day of the first month; on the morrow after the passover the children of Israel went out with an high hand in the sight of all the Egyptians. This is around late March to early April if you convert the month of Nisan to the current calendar. This puts you somewhere around the death of Christ on the cross. Add three days, resurrection, and then 40 more days until ascension and that puts you about mid May. If we are of Christ and in scripture he ask us to take up our cross, then could this template of resurrection and 40 days until ascension apply to his flock as well?

There is something weird about this Numbers 33:3 verse. Look at this one as well Jeremiah 33:3 Call unto me, and I will answer thee, and show thee great and mighty things, which thou knowest not. We also know that Christ was 33 and dies at 3pm on the cross.

Now look at a verse from Once4All's first post. Acts 1:9 After saying this, he was taken up into a cloud while they were watching, and they could no longer see him. Now look at Mark 13:26And then shall they see the Son of man coming in the clouds with great power and glory. He is coming back the same way he left.

We also know that the endtimes will be as the days of Noah. There are definite patterns in the scripture.
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Great post, thank you for sharing! God bless you :):Smiley:
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I've been doing a little research, okay, a lot of research about how history repeats itself and about fractal Truth, and I am amazed at the implications. I also look at synchronicity of all religions.

I believe every religions has a bit of Truth in it and when we take a little from each we can discover Ghod's Truth.

According to the Greek Orthodox faith, Ascension Day happens this year on June 13, 2013. I want to believe the rapture will take place on this date if not sooner, because May 9, 2013 is Ascension Day in the Roman faiths.
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You have some interesting observations. I disagree about the other religions having anything outside of the natural in truths. The truth, the life and the way is Christ. No one comes to God except through the Son.

As far as the rapture is concerned, it happens at the coming of the Son of Man. We are told that no man and no angels in Heaven know the hour and day, but we know the season from the following. It is Spring. From bible.cc Matthew 24:32Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh: 33So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors.

The fractal part is interesting and consistent with the works of Christ and anything else in the bible for that matter. Our faith is a seed faith. Christ even compares Heaven to the mustard seed.

At Christ death on the cross, the skies darkened and the earth quaked. What does that sound like? A microcosm for the coming of the Son of Man doesn't it?

The deliverance of God's people would be in some measure similar to the Jews exodus from egypt I think. Look at this verse from bible.cc KJV Numbers 33:3 And they departed from Rameses in the first month, on the fifteenth day of the first month; on the morrow after the passover the children of Israel went out with an high hand in the sight of all the Egyptians. This is around late March to early April if you convert the month of Nisan to the current calendar. This puts you somewhere around the death of Christ on the cross. Add three days, resurrection, and then 40 more days until ascension and that puts you about mid May. If we are of Christ and in scripture he ask us to take up our cross, then could this template of resurrection and 40 days until ascension apply to his flock as well?

There is something weird about this Numbers 33:3 verse. Look at this one as well Jeremiah 33:3 Call unto me, and I will answer thee, and show thee great and mighty things, which thou knowest not. We also know that Christ was 33 and dies at 3pm on the cross.

Now look at a verse from Once4All's first post. Acts 1:9 After saying this, he was taken up into a cloud while they were watching, and they could no longer see him. Now look at Mark 13:26And then shall they see the Son of man coming in the clouds with great power and glory. He is coming back the same way he left.

We also know that the endtimes will be as the days of Noah. There are definite patterns in the scripture.
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Great post, thank you for sharing! God bless you :):Smiley:
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(1915.2) 176:2.5 “But the times of the reappearing of the Son of Man are known only in the councils of Paradise; not even the angels of heaven know when this will occur. However, you should understand that, when this gospel of the kingdom shall have been proclaimed to all the world for the salvation of all peoples, and when the fullness of the age has come to pass, the Father will send you another dispensational bestowal, or else the Son of Man will return to adjudge the age.

(1915.3) 176:2.6 “And now concerning the travail of Jerusalem, about which I have spoken to you, even this generation will not pass away until my words are fulfilled; but concerning the times of the coming again of the Son of Man, no one in heaven or on earth may presume to speak. But you should be wise regarding the ripening of an age; you should be alert to discern the signs of the times. You know when the fig tree shows its tender branches and puts forth its leaves that summer is near. Likewise, when the world has passed through the long winter of material-mindedness and you discern the coming of the spiritual springtime of a new dispensation, should you know that the summertime of a new visitation draws near.

We are near a new visitation. Should be the visitation of an Avonal Son. He will be on Earth for around 1,000 years.
His name is Serara or Serena..was Monjoronson...
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You save yourself by choosing to sincerely to find God and to do His will, to become perfect has He is perfect.

Sincerity, more sincerity and more sincerity is the key to eternal life.
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Aliens
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Aliens are fallen angels.
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Aliens are humans from other planets...not angels. But if they are very evolved, very spiritual we can consider them as angels but they are only evolved humans.

" If you could be transplanted from your backward and confused world to some normal planet now in the postbestowal Son age, you would think you had been translated to the heaven of your traditions. You would hardly believe that you were observing the normal evolutionary workings of a mortal sphere of human habitation. These worlds are in the spiritual circuits of their realm, and they enjoy all the advantages of the universe broadcasts and the reflectivity services of the superuniverse."

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Abducted by aliens...
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[13] These all died in faith, not having received the promises, but having seen them afar off, and were persuaded of [them], and embraced [them], and confessed that they were strangers and pilgrims on the earth. [14] For they that say such things declare plainly that they seek a country. [15] And truly, if they had been mindful of that [country] from whence they came out, they might have had opportunity to have returned. [16] But now they desire a better [country], that is, an heavenly: wherefore God is not ashamed to be called their God: for he hath prepared for them a city. [17] By faith Abraham, when he was tried, offered up Isaac: and he that had received the promises offered up his only begotten [son], [18] Of whom it was said, That in Isaac shall thy seed be called: [19] Accounting that God [was] able to raise [him] up, even from the dead; from whence also he received him in a figure. - Hbr 11:13-19 KJV
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LOL, do you really think the creator of time and universe needs UFOs, are you kidding?

from the Talmud of Jmmanuel--
After Jmmanuel's last talk with his disciples, a "great light," having a metallic glitter in the sunshine, comes down from the sky and takes Jmmanuel aboard, ascends (the Ascension) and transports him to Damascus.

Jmmanuel nick-named Jesus, was taken away in a UFO.
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Yes I wonder why people believe this urantia book Bullshit, ministry of propaganda is to blame.
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Holy literal reading, Batman.
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It is literal. Should we trust you, or Scripture?
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The bible and Curan are fetiches books:

Words eventually became fetishes, more especially those which were regarded as God’s words; in this way the sacred books of many religions have become fetishistic prisons incarcerating the spiritual imagination of man. Moses’ very effort against fetishes became a supreme fetish; his commandment was later used to stultify art and to retard the enjoyment and adoration of the beautiful.

In olden times the fetish word of authority was a fear-inspiring doctrine, the most terrible of all tyrants which enslave men. A doctrinal fetish will lead mortal man to betray himself into the clutches of bigotry, fanaticism, superstition, intolerance, and the most atrocious of barbarous cruelties. Modern respect for wisdom and truth is but the recent escape from the fetish-making tendency up to the higher levels of thinking and reasoning. Concerning the accumulated fetish writings which various religionists hold as sacred books, it is not only believed that what is in the book is true, but also that every truth is contained in the book. If one of these sacred books happens to speak of the earth as being flat, then, for long generations, otherwise sane men and women will refuse to accept positive evidence that the planet is round.

The spirits of God are Here and Now. They transmit the truth to us.
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The Holy bible is the true Word of God. If you want proof just look at all the prophecies that have come true. There are much too many to name. This Urantia book you are talking about didn't come into existence until the 1950's or later. Plus it was written, supposedly by aliens lol. Why are you believing that book over the living bible?

The time is short, turn to Jesus Christ, and His Word before it is too late! Don't let Satan steel your soul!

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'Jesus' was an initiate of the mysteries. In the Great Pyramid, in the 'coffin' of the Kings' Chamber, the initiate is led into the sarcophagus where he is put into a trance of 3 days and journeys into the 'underworld'. After the three days, the Hierophant raises the 'Newborn' Initiate up to meet the rays of the rising 'sun', and he is now "Ascended' into a changed, higher being than he was previously. That was the basis for the story of the 'Ascension into Heaven'.hfpeace
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you know theology both Eastern Orthodox and Western Catholic and Protestant, lies. There are other planets and Jesus ascended or was lifted up to one of them. I doubt the heaven is on clouds at all. It would be too boring if it is so. But there is no one from the top religious leaders to have the courage to challenge the outdated views. I believe in God and Jesus Christ his son. So what? The picture offered us to believe is outdated as it could be after all those centuries of unawareness and stupidity, and punishable questions, sometimes by death. It is a shame the christian religion, the best religion, took such a development in the dark middle ages
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Quran: Surah Al Nisa 5 187 Jesus was raised up alive.

For a surerity they, the jews, neither did they kill him nor crucify him. This is their wishful thinking.
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:)
We're all tired, trust me. My gut feeling is not much time left before the big guy lets it rip.

honestly all my love goes to you all; I'm serious words can't even express how thankful I am you guys stuck to the truth even though there's alooooot out there against good. So, you know, if you walk with the son and his father on earth, you DEFINITELY will walk with him in "heaven"; and may be able to see the big man himself if you choose that path ;).

Sleep well my friends; you will need the rest.
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Jesus Christ is Lord !!!

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:)
We're all tired, trust me. My gut feeling is not much time left before the big guy lets it rip.

honestly all my love goes to you all; I'm serious words can't even express how thankful I am you guys stuck to the truth even though there's alooooot out there against good. So, you know, if you walk with the son and his father on earth, you DEFINITELY will walk with him in "heaven"; and may be able to see the big man himself if you choose that path ;).

Sleep well my friends; you will need the rest.
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Jesus Christ is Lord !!!

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:)
We're all tired, trust me. My gut feeling is not much time left before the big guy lets it rip.

honestly all my love goes to you all; I'm serious words can't even express how thankful I am you guys stuck to the truth even though there's alooooot out there against good. So, you know, if you walk with the son and his father on earth, you DEFINITELY will walk with him in "heaven"; and may be able to see the big man himself if you choose that path ;).

Sleep well my friends; you will need the rest.
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afro
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Is, the Afro emoti like the only thing you guys are allowed to respond to me with?I mean, I guess people can get their last shots in now; while it seems like it still matters. Personally, I don't find it funny.
At all
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Around 2,000 years before Jesus's ascension it was Melchizedek
departure. It was different because Melchizedek was physical.


Departure of Melchizedek

It was shortly after the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah that Machiventa decided to end his emergency bestowal on Urantia. Melchizedek’s decision to terminate his sojourn in the flesh was influenced by numerous conditions, chief of which was the growing tendency of the surrounding tribes, and even of his immediate associates, to regard him as a demigod, to look upon him as a supernatural being, which indeed he was; but they were beginning to reverence him unduly and with a highly superstitious fear. In addition to these reasons, Melchizedek wanted to leave the scene of his earthly activities a sufficient length of time before Abraham’s death to insure that the truth of the one and only God would become strongly established in the minds of his followers. Accordingly Machiventa retired one night to his tent at Salem, having said good night to his human companions, and when they went to call him in the morning, he was not there, for his fellows had taken him.

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Bump for Jesus!!!! :Jesus Devil:
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