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3 Cleveland Girls kidnapped 10 years ago FOUND ALIVE

 
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the truth will come out in good time - but the current story is pure BS
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Actually this is BS to the extreme

cant see how three healthy woman can be held against there will that long in close proximity too so many houses in residential area
 Quoting: What if ?


Could be that the type of people in that community mind their own business and don't want to get involved with the police. Seen it before in that type of neighborhood.

With that said, it would be interesting to find out how he pulled off keeping them captive for so long without any of them alerting someone.
 Quoting: truthwillsetyoufreeagain


More than 80% of those houses in the area are rentals, many of which stay vacant 90% of the time. More than a 1/3 of the homes are foreclosed on; lenders were loaning 100k + on these homes back in the day, homes worth 25,000 tops some as little as 3,000 in livable condition. It is a desolate type of neighborhood, lot of drugs so people just stay high and never leave the house till they get evicted.

What I don’t get is the kidnapper is not the owner of the house. I pulled up the county records on it. The owner never stopped by to check on his property?

here is the other neighbor


snip; Juan Perez lived in his Cleveland home for 22 years, but he never had a clue that his neighbor may have been hiding three abducted women for a decade of that time.

I thought that home was vacant,” Perez said Tuesday on TODAY. “I thought he probably had another property and that he would just come and check and see if everything’s OK. I didn’t even know anybody lived there, to tell you the truth.

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Here is a video from a neighbor two doors down who has known him for over ten years.

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There was another women who was present in the home when Michelle first arrived. But she later vanished, and there is the name of the other woman written on the basement wall with the words "rest in peace" above the name.

Perhaps this is why they were too scared to leave.....

The article also said that the women may have have multiple pregnancies.... perhaps this children were sold on the black market. ????

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He's 52 now?
Well, he should have a good 30 years of searing agony left in him.

Start with the toe nails.

Slowly...
 Quoting: The Comedian


From what I understand, child molesters/abusers don't fare well in prison.

He'll have to be put in segregation to remain alive for very long... and even then they can get to him.

I'd expect a very painful Dahmer-style death for this subhuman... and then an express elevator straight to Hell.

Demon perpetrated spiked-dick sodomy... that's the eternity this shitheel has to look forward to imo.

Justice.
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There are a lot more stories of other missing women from this area, they get less press because the women were not children, but makes you wonder if this is just the tip of a larger human trafficking ring and how many did he try to kidnap and failed where the woman dies instead.

I fail to believe he was three for three with 100% successes.
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Human trafficking ring is what I was thinking, and how many and who was aware of it in the area?
 Quoting: blah yada meh


Little out side help and some new info, so what do you think?

unsolved rape/murder and the date fits, April 15th 2000.

artists rendition of suspect from over 10 years ago.



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[link to www.ohioattorneygeneral.gov]

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Two things I noticed from Amandaberry's 911 call is that she talks like a 12 year old, and she has a hispanic accent.
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the three girls have been released from the hospital
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neighbor said they had called the police before
saying they saw castro with a girl in the backyard
treating her like an animal and she was naked
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Snip; Another police source who is actively working on this investigation told NewsChannel5’s Michael Baldwin at least five babies were born inside the home. It’s not clear if that number includes Berry’s 6-year-old daughter who was found in the house with the women.

[link to www.newsnet5.com]
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neighbor said they had called the police before
saying they saw castro with a girl in the backyard
treating her like an animal and she was naked
 Quoting: ttowngirl


Yep TT

Snip; Cleveland police admitted Tuesday they were just steps away nine years ago from entering the home where three young women were held captive.

Cleveland Public Safety Director Martin Flask said officers were called to the home on Seymour Avenue in January 2004 while investigating a complaint involving Ariel Castro who owns the home where the girls were discovered Monday evening.


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Something about this whole thing stinks. Why are so many family members "friends" with him?

Why did one mother think her daughter had been sold into slavery? Was it a means to convince herself that daughter is still alive? Is she just generally just an aware and awake type mom?

Are basements soundproof? I don't know. We don't have basements down here.

If basements are not soundproof, then they would have to have had slipped them out under cover of darkness to get away with this for so many years.

I am stumped and would like to know more details. I'll go over to the British news site.

Glad they were found. Sorry one mother had to pass away without knowing her daughter is alive.

I pray the Holy Spirit brings comfort to all the girls and their families and I pray that Jesus will heal the girls,
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Hmmm - disturbed ground - basement. Maybe there is an underground tunnel from the basement to another location, which would explain why it was so hard to detect trafficking for so long.
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Wow the interview with the neighbor that kicked in the door is priceless, uncle Rufus is real.
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WHAT a story! Just wow. So glad they were found. Wish the parents of those girls could have gotten that guy before the cops did.

The little girl in the picture looked to be around 6. Wonder if she lived her life in a basement. Not playing outside. Not having friends. The worst part is, that dysfunctional as it is, it's the only life she's ever known. If she liked the man, it's going to create big problems for her.

Chrit, I think your pictures look a lot alike, especially the nose and mouth. Whole general shape of the face.

Going to try to karma pin this so others can offer opinions. The trafficking view, and these pics are new info and worth considering. Don't know if it can be pinned again so soon, but will try.

Edit to add: Nope. No pin I guess. Chrit, why don't you start a thread and maybe the trafficking info posters will also post there and you could put your pictures there. It's a whole new angle.

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It's already pinned
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It's already pinned
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OMG. Thank you. Have been reading off a bookmarked link. Been a long day. Duuah. hf
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The guy is 52-he did not just start being a psycho rapist 10 years ago. He may have 100's of victims.

The "girls in the basement" plan may have evolved after he became more mature and quit strangling hookers, for example. After one too many close calls.
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I pinned it right before you posted Nine's, waiting for more info to come out so it seemed like I should.

obviously more people are involved then just three brothers.

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And in all those years, they never-ever-never had a chance to come up to the window and scream for help??? ... ??? ...hiding2
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I heard on the radio a moment ago that the police were called to come to the house back in 2011, a complaint about screaming. They knocked on door, no one answered, they never followed up.
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Yeah. Those cops, gotta hand it to 'em.
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Yeah. Those cops, gotta hand it to 'em.
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If they had smelled pot, things might've been different.

Remember-if you think your next door neighbor is keeping sex slaves in his basement, the best way to make sure the cops seach the place is call in an illegal grow operation*

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From what I understand, child molesters/abusers don't fare well in prison.

He'll have to be put in segregation to remain alive for very long... and even then they can get to him.

I'd expect a very painful Dahmer-style death for this subhuman... and then an express elevator straight to Hell.

Demon perpetrated spiked-dick sodomy... that's the eternity this shitheel has to look forward to imo.

Justice.
 Quoting: ScrumpTheTexan


There are a lot more stories of other missing women from this area, they get less press because the women were not children, but makes you wonder if this is just the tip of a larger human trafficking ring and how many did he try to kidnap and failed where the woman dies instead.

I fail to believe he was three for three with 100% successes.
 Quoting: Chrit


Human trafficking ring is what I was thinking, and how many and who was aware of it in the area?
 Quoting: blah yada meh


Little out side help and some new info, so what do you think?

unsolved rape/murder and the date fits, April 15th 2000.

artists rendition of suspect from over 10 years ago.



sketch11

Main kidnapper

kidnapper1

links to stories.

[link to www.ohioattorneygeneral.gov]

[link to www.wkyc.com]
 Quoting: Chrit


Here's some news it appears is recent. Has his booking picture. He has some hair in the back in this picture but some guys shave their heads, so it doesn't mean it's not a match for your picture.

Link also tells about the 5 babies.

Look at the brothers pictures. Those poor women will never stop having nightmares.

[link to www.usatoday.com]
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There was an inmate about 10 months ago that led police to a lot where he said Amanda Berry was buried. They didn't find anything and he was given 4 more years for giving fault information. Thing is this lot is a right around the corner of where the women were being kept. There are still some girls unaccounted for. I wonder if some bodies really are buried there.
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the truth will come out in good time - but the current story is pure BS
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 38915213


Actually this is BS to the extreme

cant see how three healthy woman can be held against there will that long in close proximity too so many houses in residential area
 Quoting: What if ?


Could be that the type of people in that community mind their own business and don't want to get involved with the police. Seen it before in that type of neighborhood.

With that said, it would be interesting to find out how he pulled off keeping them captive for so long without any of them alerting someone.
 Quoting: truthwillsetyoufreeagain


More than 80% of those houses in the area are rentals, many of which stay vacant 90% of the time. More than a 1/3 of the homes are foreclosed on; lenders were loaning 100k + on these homes back in the day, homes worth 25,000 tops some as little as 3,000 in livable condition. It is a desolate type of neighborhood, lot of drugs so people just stay high and never leave the house till they get evicted.

What I don’t get is the kidnapper is not the owner of the house. I pulled up the county records on it. The owner never stopped by to check on his property?

here is the other neighbor


snip; Juan Perez lived in his Cleveland home for 22 years, but he never had a clue that his neighbor may have been hiding three abducted women for a decade of that time.

I thought that home was vacant,” Perez said Tuesday on TODAY. “I thought he probably had another property and that he would just come and check and see if everything’s OK. I didn’t even know anybody lived there, to tell you the truth.

[link to www.today.com]
 Quoting: Chrit


And it gets even more confusing. This article, and another I couldn't find, says he did own it but it was in foreclosure. Wouldn't that make a person a little uncomfortable having captives in a basement with a home in foreclosure. Wouldn't people be coming around to serve papers, or cops bringing them? And I thought the son was named Anthony. Hmm.

From the article:
According to USA Today, the house was sold to Castro in 1992 for $12,000 by Edwin and Antonia Castro, though the paper was unclear of Ariel Castro was related to the couple.

Today, the house — at 2207 Seymour Ave in Cleveland — is facing foreclosure, reportedly because Ariel Castro owes thousands of dollars in real-estate taxes.

Castro has at least three children, two daughters and a son also named Ariel. The younger Ariel Castro wrote a story about the kidnapping of Gina DeJesus while he was a journalism student. The elder Ariel Castro recently posted on Facebook that he was a grandfather.

One daughter, who is reportedly named Emily, is apparently serving a prison sentence for slashing the throat of her own child according to the Cleveland Plain Dealer.
[link to news.nationalpost.com]
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like I said, this is an industry.



Snip; But increasingly, pimps are coercing vulnerable teens into the sex trade. They flatter the girls by telling them they're pretty, develop their trust and entice them to leave their families. Then they isolate them in a world where they're raped and held against their will.

"Many people don't believe it's happening here," says director Karen Walsh of Northeast Ohio's Collaborative Initiative To End Human Trafficking. But it is. About 1,000 American-born children are forced into the sex trade in Ohio every year, according to a 2010 report by the Trafficking in Persons Study Commission.

Fueling it all is the multimillion-dollar sex industry. There are piles of money to be had, which is why all types of enterprising people who apparently have no souls are cashing in by entering the pimp business.




Snip; The National Human Trafficking Resource Center's most recent quarterly report shows that its hotline received more calls from Cleveland than from any other city in Ohio.

Kolonick says when it comes to sex trafficking, the key is to eliminate demand. He intends to be more vigilant in going after the johns, most of whom live in the suburbs.

"The industry succeeds because of its secrecy," says Kolonick. "The johns and the pimps do not want the general public to know about this. That's why they hide it on the Internet, in abandoned homes."

Some cities have specialized facilities where trafficked women can live safe from their victimizers and get their lives together. But in Northeast Ohio, we're just beginning to wake up and realize that modern-day slavery exists.


[link to www.cleveland.com]
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Glad to hear this wonderful news !!!

However, had this not been a national headline story in the MSM most of you GLP'ers would have passed this story up, offered it 2 to 3 stars and given it about as much relevance as "I am from planet Zoltar...ask me a question."

Sorry...but that's the Truth !!!


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It's sad that that poor girl had to have a child by one of those REVOLTING disgusting butt-ugly subhumans... but hopefully the child will take more after her side or some distant human on the 'fathers' side.

One article said the other infants did not survive, which is probably for the best.

These three brothers need to be burned at the stake. IMHO.
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It's sad that that poor girl had to have a child by one of those REVOLTING disgusting butt-ugly subhumans... but hopefully the child will take more after her side or some distant human on the 'fathers' side.

One article said the other infants did not survive, which is probably for the best.

These three brothers need to be burned at the stake. IMHO.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 38997300


They are saying at least 5 pregnancies minimum now between the three women.
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It's sad that that poor girl had to have a child by one of those REVOLTING disgusting butt-ugly subhumans... but hopefully the child will take more after her side or some distant human on the 'fathers' side.

One article said the other infants did not survive, which is probably for the best.

These three brothers need to be burned at the stake. IMHO.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 38997300


She looks like her Mommy. Mommy is going to have as hard a time as the little girl. Don't want to imagine what they went through. Sadone

Maybe he only told them the babies didn't survive. Maybe he sold them. Figure the odds. 5 out of 6 died? Wonder how many unknown captives he had that didn't survive a basement birth.

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the truth will come out in good time - but the current story is pure BS
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 38915213


Actually this is BS to the extreme

cant see how three healthy woman can be held against there will that long in close proximity too so many houses in residential area
 Quoting: What if ?


Could be that the type of people in that community mind their own business and don't want to get involved with the police. Seen it before in that type of neighborhood.

With that said, it would be interesting to find out how he pulled off keeping them captive for so long without any of them alerting someone.
 Quoting: truthwillsetyoufreeagain


More than 80% of those houses in the area are rentals, many of which stay vacant 90% of the time. More than a 1/3 of the homes are foreclosed on; lenders were loaning 100k + on these homes back in the day, homes worth 25,000 tops some as little as 3,000 in livable condition. It is a desolate type of neighborhood, lot of drugs so people just stay high and never leave the house till they get evicted.

What I don’t get is the kidnapper is not the owner of the house. I pulled up the county records on it. The owner never stopped by to check on his property?
 Quoting: Chrit


I saw the kidnapper's uncle on tv and he said his brother owns or owned the house. I don't remember which one. Also, the relative that was on FB last night (I think the nephew of the kidnapper) said he grew up in that house. So I guess the nephew's father owned it.
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the truth will come out in good time - but the current story is pure BS
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 38915213


Actually this is BS to the extreme

cant see how three healthy woman can be held against there will that long in close proximity too so many houses in residential area
 Quoting: What if ?


Could be that the type of people in that community mind their own business and don't want to get involved with the police. Seen it before in that type of neighborhood.

With that said, it would be interesting to find out how he pulled off keeping them captive for so long without any of them alerting someone.
 Quoting: truthwillsetyoufreeagain


More than 80% of those houses in the area are rentals, many of which stay vacant 90% of the time. More than a 1/3 of the homes are foreclosed on; lenders were loaning 100k + on these homes back in the day, homes worth 25,000 tops some as little as 3,000 in livable condition. It is a desolate type of neighborhood, lot of drugs so people just stay high and never leave the house till they get evicted.

What I don’t get is the kidnapper is not the owner of the house. I pulled up the county records on it. The owner never stopped by to check on his property?

here is the other neighbor


snip; Juan Perez lived in his Cleveland home for 22 years, but he never had a clue that his neighbor may have been hiding three abducted women for a decade of that time.

I thought that home was vacant,” Perez said Tuesday on TODAY. “I thought he probably had another property and that he would just come and check and see if everything’s OK. I didn’t even know anybody lived there, to tell you the truth.

[link to www.today.com]
 Quoting: Chrit


^^ This is really odd. The reporter said this man lived right next door.

We won't know how he hid the victims until the police report what they found in the house.

Last Edited by truthwillsetyoufreeagain on 05/07/2013 04:51 PM
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Here is the latest update given by the CPD...
Earlier today, Cleveland Mayor Frank G. Jackson, Public Safety Director Martin Flask, Chief of Police Michael McGrath, Deputy Chief Ed Tomba, and Special Agent in Charge of the Cleveland FBI Office Stephen Anthony held a press conference to give an update on the safe return of Amanda Berry, Gina DeJesus and Michelle Knight.

Three suspects are currently in Cleveland Police custody awaiting charges to be filed. They are brothers, Ariel Castro, 52; Onil Castro, 50; and Pedro Castro, 54. By mandate, charges are expected within 36 hours of arrest. A search warrant is currently being executed at 2207 Seymour with other locations pending.
We understand the need for continuous information; we are trying to get information to media as fast as we can. We ask that media refrain from speculation and reporting based on unconfirmed information.

Law enforcement is grateful for all those in the neighborhood who responded to help Amanda Berry, Gina DeJesus and Michelle Knight, including Charles Ramsey who called 911 to alert Police. The support of the community is critically important to all that law enforcement does.

We continue to ask the community to send tips and information – to say something if you see something. We cannot do this alone.
Please, report any suspicious activity to 1-877-OHS-INTEL. For the cases involving Amanda Berry, Gina DeJesus and Michelle Knight specifically, please call the Cleveland Office of the FBI at 216-522-1400.

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Another story to deflect from important issues.

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