Jesus Commands Us to Kill Children

Jesus was referring to Exodus 21:17

17 “Anyone who curses their father or mother is to be put to death.

Jesus said:

Matthew 15:4

4 For God said, ‘Honor your father and mother’ and ‘Anyone who curses their father or mother is to be put to death.’

If you read it all in context it should be fairly obvious that cursing a parent is a much bigger deal than disobeying. Look at it in it's entirety, it is discussing assault, kidnapping and murder.

12 “Anyone who strikes a person with a fatal blow is to be put to death. 13 However, if it is not done intentionally, but God lets it happen, they are to flee to a place I will designate. 14 But if anyone schemes and kills someone deliberately, that person is to be taken from my altar and put to death.

15 “Anyone who attacks[c] their father or mother is to be put to death.

16 “Anyone who kidnaps someone is to be put to death, whether the victim has been sold or is still in the kidnapper’s possession.

17 “Anyone who curses their father or mother is to be put to death.

18 “If people quarrel and one person hits another with a stone or with their fist[d] and the victim does not die but is confined to bed, 19 the one who struck the blow will not be held liable if the other can get up and walk around outside with a staff; however, the guilty party must pay the injured person for any loss of time and see that the victim is completely healed.

20 “Anyone who beats their male or female slave with a rod must be punished if the slave dies as a direct result, 21 but they are not to be punished if the slave recovers after a day or two, since the slave is their property.

22 “If people are fighting and hit a pregnant woman and she gives birth prematurely[e] but there is no serious injury, the offender must be fined whatever the woman’s husband demands and the court allows. 23 But if there is serious injury, you are to take life for life, 24 eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot, 25 burn for burn, wound for wound, bruise for bruise.

26 “An owner who hits a male or female slave in the eye and destroys it must let the slave go free to compensate for the eye. 27 And an owner who knocks out the tooth of a male or female slave must let the slave go free to compensate for the tooth.

Where does it say that it does not apply to non "holy people"?

Jesus commands me to lay this on you -

so Jesus also approves of slavery ???

what happened to free will ???

who chooses to be a slave ???

has it occurred to anybody that Jesus
always winds up approving of every
thing that Roman Rulers wanted ???

use of slavery

use of monetary system
"Pay unto Caesar..."

Give 10% in tithes
"these funds funded Roman Legion invasions
of other countries"

Capital Punishment
"Roman Death Sentences"

why is this ???

Slavery was a way of life for all civilizations then and I assume the Jewish people were very sensitive to that having just come out of slavery. It was how the world worked. Unlike other religions and races though the Hebrews had very specific rules on the treatment of slaves, one being that a slave had to be freed after 7 years. Another being you can't beat or work a slave to death. Man does have free will, if that weren't the case there would be no need for laws biblical or otherwise.

sounds like the German work camps from 1939
til 1945

so you are saying the Jesus would approve
of Hitler's actions ???

No. How does it "sound" like that?

Yea of little understanding. Deep in your heart you know better. Come clean and ask Jesus into your heart and Quit running.

People in the work camps were slaves bro.

and Jesus approves of slavery,

therefore Jesus approves of what Hitler did.

the dude must have been on coffee break
every time I called. there was no answer.

He does knows better in his heart. He knows that killing a child for cursing its parents is wrong.

Ask instead why you worship a mass murderer. God kills all firstborn in Egypt, how can anyone worship such a monster?

he is talking(metaphor) about a Rebellious Israel being a naughty Child...aloha

The death of the firstborn was a judgement executed against Egypt. Lets take things in context and look at the big picture of what was really going on. Read the whole story!


First it is important to note that Joseph helped set up the kingdom of Egypt and saved all of the people from a terrible famine while he was doing it. Read Genesis 47.

Genesis 47:20

20 And Joseph bought all the land of Egypt for Pharaoh; for the Egyptians sold every man his field, because the famine prevailed over them: so the land became Pharaoh's.

Over time this was forgotten. See Exodus 1:8 and Acts 7:18

Here is Exodus 1:7 - 1:14

7 And the children of Israel were fruitful, and increased abundantly, and multiplied, and waxed exceeding mighty; and the land was filled with them.

8 Now there arose up a new king over Egypt, which knew not Joseph.

9 And he said unto his people, Behold, the people of the children of Israel are more and mightier than we:

10 Come on, let us deal wisely with them; lest they multiply, and it come to pass, that, when there falleth out any war, they join also unto our enemies, and fight against us, and so get them up out of the land.

11 Therefore they did set over them taskmasters to afflict them with their burdens. And they built for Pharaoh treasure cities, Pithom and Raamses.

12 But the more they afflicted them, the more they multiplied and grew. And they were grieved because of the children of Israel.

13 And the Egyptians made the children of Israel to serve with rigour:

14 And they made their lives bitter with hard bondage, in morter, and in brick, and in all manner of service in the field: all their service, wherein they made them serve, was with rigour.

Now lets look at just this verse.

Exodus 1:16
And he said, When ye do the office of a midwife to the Hebrew women, and see them upon the stools; if it be a son, then ye shall kill him: but if it be a daughter, then she shall live.

Sounds like selective abortion and genocide to me.

and

Acts 7:18-19

18 Till another king arose, which knew not Joseph.

19 The same dealt subtilly with our kindred, and evil entreated our fathers, so that they cast out their young children, to the end they might not live.

Entreated = Made deals with, contracts.

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also read Deuteronmy 26:6

It looks to me like Egyptians were blessed and became a great nation because of the Hebrews living among them. Look at how they were treated.

also see Genesis 12 Verse 1-3 for a promise made to Abraham.

Take a look around you at what is going on now. Nothing new under the sun. I don't understand everything yet or pretent to but it looks like the USA is doing the same things the Egyptians did. The people doing this are helping destroy their own blessings. I almost didn't post this message...but to the people here that are searching for the truth, have a look at this video. He may not be right on everything but it is a lot closer to the truth than anything else out there.

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Also see this chart.

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and then this movie.

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Do you realise that you are trying to provide a context in wich the killing of 1000´s of children is ok.

Have you asked yourself why the most intelligent being in the universe chooses the solution of genocide to help another people?

really? there was a time our parents were our moral compass but not anymore hell does anyone teach their kids anymore?

It's talking about spiritual death. First commandment: Thou shalt not kill.

Every single one of you that is telling us that Jesus was talking about adult children being put to spiritual death need to understand that you are deceiving yourselves and poorly trying to deceive us.

I call on all you lying Christians to repent. No child should be put to death for cursing their parents.

It is not for you to decide what God does and not mine either. No Christian would kill anybody cause it's FIRST commandment: thou shalt not kill. If you read Bible carefully there is written many times about death as spiritual death. God offers us eternal life with him if we FOLLOW his commandments. Murdering somebody is against his commandment. The end, there is nothing to talk about. You are the main deceiver here, who hasn't even red the Bible while claiming something you don't know.

"You failed reading comprehension. Let him die the death means kill him." ~ OP

No it doesn't.

If that were the case, it would have been written "Put him to death", as that was the term used back in the days of the Old Testament.

Just another person who hasn't studied the Bible and takes it out of context.

So, point is, you're incorrect and Jesus Christ does not command anyone to kill children.

Last Edited by Ghost in the Shell on 05/09/2013 12:25 PM

I have asked a lot of questions.

I am simply showing more of the story and putting into evidence that the Egyptians as a race were doing exactly the same thing that you are complaining about (and more) to the very people who were responsible for their prosperity. I will straight up tell you I don't understand everything, but I suspect there is quite a bit more to it than that. I accept the story at face value. The Bible simply tells what happened. I can see the same types of things happening around me right now.

I like to think I have a reasoned faith. My human reasoning also tells me that I am in deep trouble. I trust in the fact that the Creator of the heavens and the earth is much wiser than me. It is easy enough for me to look at creation and see that. Just examine something like DNA or the Human Eye or any of the wonders of Creation.

There are a lot of presumptions with your question. You are asking this question with very limited human reasoning. Consider Adam's sin, It seems like this is the very knowledge (good and evil) is being used to ask this question. Also consider what the serpent told Adam. You might also consider what happened to the midwifes that disobeyed Pharoah's orders.

The best book to read to rebut presumptions is Job.

Another book to read is Jonah. We are never told what happened to him - I like to think that someone from Ninevah said "Hey! what happened to that preacher that came through here and warned us?" and then they went out to his booth, brought him into the town, and he found peace. What do you think?

Then why does God tell us to kill women for not being virgins on the wedding night?

If God wanted us to follow that commandment why does he command us to break it?

Congratulations! You are oozing stupid.

What is stupid about that post?

Worshiping a Diety that wants us to kill people over virginity and working on a specific weekday is not stupid?

PROOF or it didn't happen...

Deuteronomy 22:20-21

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So the first commandment is do not kill and then God tells us to kill...

Funny how the same people who would say God commands us to kill children, have no problem with abortion. Then turn around and call christians hypocrites.

What really cracks me up though, is how much time some people will spend, attacking or trying to disprove something "they don't believe in".

LOL It's like me starting a thread hating on santa claus, trying to prove he doesn't exist.