Men not marrying. How deep does the problem go?

Yes...because there are zero odds you could just be an insufferable skag.

Pretty much. In any culture before the modern era this was fairly true. Although it was more regulated and families would arrange marriages more, just stating that for fairness.

Marriage as it should be is a daily choice to commit oneself to the other half. It shouldn't be taken lightly, because one wavering doubt can plant years of distrust and doubt. That's why courtship should take a year plus before engagement is mentioned, let alone seriously considered.

In the modern era though...first kiss by second date (with who knows what kinds of timelines after), things move too fast for a proper relationship to develop, and thus you move ten steps down the line of what you do only to find out a fatal flaw and then trash the entire relationship with a monumental fight where you lose whatever friendship you might have had to begin with.

I'm reminded of a scene from Married with Children, Al and Peg are in a video store and she picks up a video called "Four Weddings and a Funeral"

AL: "That's five of the same thing..."

This is the pink elephant feminists run from. Why? Because they know this is true. Biology doesn't lie. Men are infused with more testosterone. They are bigger and stronger than women before picking up a weight.

It's a pretty simple solution. Dont take the chance. If she loves you and truly wants to protect you she will either offer to sign a prenup or will not protest when you ask her to. Prenups dont even protect you in some states.

Thats the way men are headed until things change. If they never change so be it. Just dont get married and live without the paper. No big deal.

wish i never married
will never again fuck woman
dont tell my wife i still have to break it to her

Am I the only one here who likes being married?

But I see everyone's points.

The women here are not as badly infected with the feminism insanity. (Which is unfeminine)

There's nothing wrong with marriage. Most people who are against the idea have either been hurt in the past or have trust issues. Get over yourselves and stop being so negative.

I recall reading some studies awhile back where men from divorced families were more likely not to get married. Another recent statistic pointd out that 47% of women giving birth now are unmarried - one could easily speculate that there just aren't enough strong family men husbands/fathers in the picture as role models for these young men. It's no wonder they are not comfortable creating a family of their own after growing up in a broken household.

Some here may remember years back that the goal in high school/college was to meet up with someone, get married and raise a family. Now it seems the goal is to make money and just survive.

Ladies, guys don't want to marry a Yenta.

look up the word if you have problems.

Women partner- yes. I need love. Marriage by law, hell fucking no.

Ahhh, the first deep insight I've seen on this forum, not that the others didn't have good points to make.

Here are some simple facts. Marriage has ALWAYS been first a business arrangement and then a love arrangement if you really worked hard at it.

The norm throughout history was to arrange marriages. Because frankly you can't leave something as important as raising a family and choosing a mate to the flighty lusts of doughy eyed teenagers or even twenty somethings with brains full of mush.

I mean no disrespect to our youth, but I remember my youth and I was a complete fool until around my 25th birthday. I couldn't plan my way out of a paper bag.

Romantic love is largely a fantasy created by hollywood. Note that the Bible's commands with regards to marriage are that husbands love their wives and wives respect their husbands.

See love is a command! It is not something you fall into, like a ditch on the side of the road. Marriage is a life long commitment, a vow, a business arrangement wherein your wife helps nurture and raise children and the husband provides and protects.

Since human beings are, for the most part, designed to have sexual attraction to the opposite sex, for the purpose of procreation, it is critical that one assumes this contract for the sake of the children one produces.

It should be self evident that this arrangement is still superior than randomly generating a brood of fatherless children and it is in fact God's plan. He takes it very seriously. The Bible says that adulterers and fornicators (sex outside of marriage), will spend an eternity in hell if they do not repent. That's how serious it is.

If you like the relationship you're in, why not, say, just stay in the relationship? When you blow a shitload of bank on a wedding, all you're doing is indulging your own vanity, and setting yourself up for future problems.

Long term monogamous relationships? Fantastic!

Marriage as a legal institution? The only benefit is tax advantages if you file jointly. GM and others have covered the disadvantages fairly well.

I spent $70 dollars. Justice of the Peace.

Single. Can't marry.
Can't get along with any of them. Lol.

What's the point of getting married anymore? All it is is a contract with one another that only benefits the woman if it gets broken, regardless of who breaks it. If you love someone a stupid piece of paper isn't going to make it any more or less legitimate.

This. Every time one of these threads come up people always forget the spiritual aspect of it.

I've been happily married for almost 18 years.

Guess it depends on who your with. But, I love marriage and family.

Being single and lonely all the time sucks.

And yes, I am a man.

First of all she probably has a smoking addiction that has aged her 10+ years faster...than her actual age...

Plus it's costing someone $200 a month. May as well be cocaine or heroin..

Or she bought into the BS story about BBWs and how everyone should except them the way they are (FAT) and she could care less what she looks like.

She probably works in a fast food restaurant and has nothing of value to bring to the table...Or as I like to call them...MONEY PITS...

Or the guys know plenty of other guys that took a divorce trip through the heavily female slanted court system and had their clocks cleaned...

Or they know over half of all first marriages FAILS...

Or they know statistically that women cheat more than men...

Give me ONE GOOD reason why anyone should be married?

If gays and lesbians can raise children....why get married?


Friends with benefits is the future...Get used to the idea...

Art thou bound unto a wife? seek not to be loosed. Art thou loosed from a wife? seek not a wife. (1 Cor. 7:27)

But I would have you without carefulness. He that is unmarried careth for the things that belong to the Lord, how he may please the Lord: But he that is married careth for the things that are of the world, how he may please his wife. (1 Cor. 7:32-33)

For God speaketh once, yea twice, yet man perceiveth it not. (Job 33:14)

wisin up.... you can only get away with using a guy for so long

lol, yeah friends with benefits is SO the future....says the forum with the super gonorrhea thread. If we were meant to boink like donkeys, pretty sure we wouldn't have STD's that rot your genitals off.

I'm married 8 years to the same great guy. We had our 3rd baby 8 months ago and our sex life is currently nil. We've had one date night in 8 months. I had the body of a fucking rock star before this baby (32, 5'7, 125 lbs and 14% bodyfat, I could do 50 pullups, no joke) and now, thanks to breastfeeding hormones, I have 15 extra pounds that have me living in sweatpants (I refuse to buy larger clothes. I just refuse.) My husband gained 20 lbs right along with me. So, the cute baby part is awesome but the rest of my life and romantic status sucks but I STILL would recommend marriage any day. Why? It's a wave! We are currently at a bottom and we will work out way back up to the top the same way we always do (with the gym, and date nights, and some lingerie once my ass shrinks again.)

Real problem with marriage today are people thinking it's a fucking fairy tale of laziness. Hey look, I got married now I don't have to try anymore! Men get beer bellies. Women get fat. No one dresses up for each other anymore. I see lots of people who don't flirt, don't kiss, don't banter, don't hug. Hello? If you go to work and you don't work, you get fired. If you get married and you don't work, you get divorced. unhappy in your marriage, get to work! Most likely you are 50% of the problem!

I would be afraid to even date anyone now. They might give you a disease.

The first 10-minutes or so I couldn't help but smirk and laugh at this frustrated feminist who is now waking up to the reality of women poisoned their own well. To me there was nothing attractive or interesting about her (save her nice tits) because she butchered her hair, spoke so deliberately and over the top philosophically as though she were giving a lecture to a bunch of Harvard LGBT manufactured mutts. Is this the way feminists talk, with every other sentence engineered around a few words in "quotations" (hold hands out a mockingly make the quotations signs, as though you were offended by the words in quotations, yet this feminist could not wait to get to the next opportunity to to her "quotations" signal. Who talks like that? Surely no man.

At around the 10:00 minute mark, m/l, she began to really dig into the heart of the matter. What is attractive and comforting and energizing about being around, or listening t, a woman that has little respect for the man in her life, and that will do most anything to offend his sensibilities, all in the name of proving her equal or better worth than her male counterparts - little or nothing.

Some men I know have been in therapy with their wives for years, all started because the man wasn't doing enough to understand her innermost needs, her never-ending need and demand to be told again and again and again that their looks haven't faded, that everything they do has supreme value to the man in their lives, that their beauty and loving nature never faded. These poor saps will never learn and never make their wives happy. The psycho-terapists (all apart of the queering and neutering of boys, young men, and what's left of the older men) work in collaboration with U.N. governments to create drug-doped men and women, less and less interested in mating and having kids. Feminists rarely read or learn about this side of their movement.

Women spend more and more of their time away from the home, away from their kids, away from their mates, and spend more of their time with their equally misguided and miserable girlfriends, spending their off-work hours running back and forth to the training facilities, hair and nail and feet care salons, beautification spas, makeup shops, and hours in front of their mirrors, all to meet up with their girlfriends at more and more bars, playing the rolls they played when they were 22-year old women, and when their male counterparts don't ooh and ahh over them, they slop down more and more wine and cocktails, and turn their cougar-instincts on some young steer just looking to get laid.

Women are determined to do whatever and spend whatever to kid themselves into thinking they can and should compete with the never-ending parade of newly minted 22-year old females. What most older women don't understand is that most non-neutered men don't want to hear more and more from the same herd of 30 and 40-year old women with huge emotional issues, never to be satisfied or happy, with a huge chip on their shoulders, and truckloads of negative baggage and energy.

This feminista is dead-on in the way men are portrayed everywhere, in movies, TV, magazines, and commercials. Either the men are gun-totting backwoods' hicks that survive by wrestling alligators or snakes, and have the IQ of a wombat, or the feminized male is subservient to his much more educated and refined female counterpart, or the non-female role is filled by a neutered and uber-passive male or one or more of your ever-growing parade of LGBT Lady Gag Gag members.

The author is undoubtedly frustrated that now she sees the seeds that she and her feministas sowed. She and her gaggle of girlfriends are heartbroken that most men have finally grown tired and weary of breaking their backs for country, fellow-man, wives and girlfriends, only to be betrayed while they were away. Feminists have entered every traditionally male role, including front lines in the army, football, basketball, all the trades, the highest in academia, fatherhood, and everything in between. And the females wonder why men are no longer lining up to spill their blood or work tirelessly like a slave to give the woman of their dreams just about everything they could possibly heap upon her, from a never satisfying bigger and better home, to vacations to match or better her girlfriend's recent travels, to better and better and maybe private schools for their children so everyone can feel proud and prestigious for increasing their offspring's refinement. And maybe the male is tired of hearing he must remember time and time again to praise his wife's or girlfriend's looks and efforts she makes to keep herself beautiful, always with a declining rate of return, and the endless hours she previously purchased with his money, to fix her hair, her body, her makeup, her wrinkles, her ass, and so on. She deludes herself into thinking its just to be more appealing to all males, with maybe 5% of her prepping dedicated toward the male she is betrothed to. Much more likely, she does the beautifications' rituals to outdo her female counterparts.

Females spend most of their time trying to one-up their female friends, dying for one oogle or ahh from a male, and then if a male responds as she desires, and that male isn't up to her impossible standards, then she scoffs at him, belittles his attempts to coax a response out of him, perhaps calls the police or her attorneys on him, and so the male asks - for what?

Most women have very shallow lives. They were taught by their equally confused mothers that their looks are all that matters. Young girls spend their lives dressing up, putting on makeup, preparing for the mating rituals, competing on this shallow plane with all other females, friends or not, and of course they work hard to excel in school.

Men on the other hand, keep their male buddies their whole lives, not for what they look like but for what they say, do, and have the capabilities to compete in, or teach their other male-buddies to do. Men hunt, fish, run, race bikes and cars, build things, destroy things, fix things, talk to one another, and all without sniping about how they fixed their hair, their nails, their shoes, their clothes, their latest and greatest jewelry, etc. Men have these capabilities their whole lives. Women's external beauty fades, and for too many women, that's all they have. When that is gone, they are miserable and lonely, and need their male friends to also throw themselves into their poisoned well.

In short, men have lives outside their wives and girlfriends, and this upsets females royally. Women are forever jealous of their female counterparts, and mens' freedom to come and go and do as they please.

For thousands of years men slaved-away to attract and retain a loving, attractive, respectful, appreciative, woman. Women wanted a hard-working, intelligent, strong, protective, attractive man willing to go to any lengths to make the woman and their children happy and safe. Women were convinced by their feminista sisterhood to walk away from so much, give up so much, and for what? Many are now lonely, angry, shells of the people they could have been.

Feminists, and their LBGT friends, are both a major part of the eugenics program devised to erode propagation of the species. Weak-souled feminists and their largely weak-souled and internally timid gay-friends are out at sea in a big boat, with no one but the dykes willing to row.

This disgruntled feminist, not quite sure about her identity and the road she is on, needs to reach out to the Rosie O'Donnell's of the world; whine about men, whine about the world's sick status, continue adopting more and more children to further poison the well, and reflect on what might have been, had they not demanded everything and more from their mate.

Women wanted equal pay, equal labor, equal recognition, equal fame and fortune, and they got it. And now they have equal pain, heartache, disease, mental fatigue, stress, and soon enough - younger and younger mortality.

Women like this feminist are oh-so-frustrated that men have grown weary of their game, see fewer and fewer benefits to pursuing the Western-World's elitist/feminist women, with so much attitude that it drains the life out of men. Watch the woman's face, frustration and flushing. She recognizes her own betrayal every time she looks in the mirror.

Men don't demand everything and more from their male friends, and they find that trait in women extremely tiresome.

It appears easy to make generalizations on this topic especially if one is in the single category. My best friend on the planet is the person I'm married to. There isn't anyone who knows me better or more tuned into who I am. The opposite is true as well. There is something to be said for having a life partner to share experiences with and talk to late into the night when living in such an insecure world. There is also a spiritual connection that was there from the on start. Being spiritually connected is an essential ingredient to a strong lasting marriage. A strong relationship also requires doing ones own individual inner work toward personal growth. This is where the pedal meets the medal and most fall by the wayside.

Think of it this way. Each person is already happy with who they are when they meet and even happier to be with each other to share this experinece together. These are the relationships that last over the long haul.

Inner works means taking the time to get to know oneself and get to that happy place inside. Start with that.

Last Edited by Proud American Supporter on 05/08/2013 03:22 PM

ever since porn came around ..men can see a naked woman anytime. Its all about the sex. Men want't sex. Porn fixes this problem without all the hassle of a woman trying to bring us down and control our lives.

women are a great big waste of time. better to find a nice hobby.

men can still get sex: but it's "they're way, or the highway".

Women control all the sex.....nothing happens unless a woman gives you her permission..

If you marry them...you just gave her control of your entire financial future...and all the sex


So they get all the sex and all the money...

See anything wrong with this picture?


Let's get married...

You haven't been a Male who has gone through the Divorce Meat Grinder AFTER your wife slept around on you ... and who after SHE left is still trying to ruin you and working continuously to get you fired and unemployable.

Once you have been through the modern Divorce Meat Grinder Experience, where the legal system is totally tilted towards the female side of the equation, "Marriage" has no allure anymore ... since as a male you realize that you will NEVER really know what is going on inside the brain of a woman ... and also know that women as a group are a pretty coniving group for whom lying and destroying others comes naturally (yes there are exceptions, but they are precisely that ... exceptions)

Well at least your country is up front about it.

They take your money before you get married, not after.