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Anonymous Coward User ID: 15542992 United States 05/08/2013 05:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | eh, things will turn around in the near future. when this whole joke of an economy collapses, earth changes, blah blah blah doom happens, women who can't say enough how they don't need a man will go running for one (and I'm a woman saying this.) Better one man to protect you than 20 men to pass you around. In a SHTF scenario, men and women will revert to their traditional gender roles. Family will become important again. Men will take pride in protecting the most vulnerable in their families and women will appreciate them for it. We are living in an unnatural state. What cannot continue, will stop.... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24564357 I do agree with this. It should not be a state of affairs where men are either lording it over the family, or used by them. The men should be taking pride in providing for and protecting, and the others can have a part in that too. By the same token I think we have all learned that good men can also participate in various homemaking activities. The healthy state is for a family to be functioning as a life sustaining team. Extended families too. We have indeed been living in an unnatural state, plus there have been corrupting influences like this gay epidemic that is currently spinning out of control. I don't see this gay tsunami as natural at all.I believe it is a weird offshoot of all the hidden mind control activity, by which millions of people are controlled with sexual abuse. Apparently the best method of controlling a victim is with anal rape. So they are trying to stealth-normalize that with this big gay push. Then it can be mixed into everyday life and the perps won't need to worry about prosecution for rape. We are also hearing that police, the military and prisons use rape far more than was believed and this is also for control. Terrorizing victims by raping them achieves mind control because the mind shuts down over the trauma and then the persons behavior can be easily controlled. It's called trauma based mind control and is being systematically used in our military and the techniques moved out of there and into the street where they are being used by gangs and scumbags like those guys who had the 3 women tied up for 4 years. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 2589688 United States 05/08/2013 05:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Women SAY they want a sensitive man, loves kids, great personality, sober, good in bed, etc....If they find a guy like that, they dump him if he doesn't have a job. It doesn't seem to matter if he posesses ALL the traits that would make him an ideal mate. If the guy doesn't work, eventually she will leave him if she ever dares to get involved with him in the first place. With the fact that white men are going to be a minority in a few years, women are turning more towards "other" types of guys. The man could have all the traits of g*d himself but if he doesn't work to carry the majority of the burden, bye bye. Quoting: bugfucker 3326461 Check it out. ----> [link to www.mgtow.com] Hello! I think it's assumed one's partner will either work or pull their own weight in other ways. I personally believe it's impossible for a family to raise more than one child without one partent staying home with them. Better to live a very humble life on one income than foist your kids off on someone else to raise. If there are no kids, both should bring in some money or else one should be a virtual slave -- wouldn't wish that on anyone. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 37211613 United States 05/08/2013 07:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I've been married for almost thirty years. When we first got married it was about romantic love, and sex and overall life expectations...but time passed and we got older and we changed and there have been periods where we both would have agreed to throw in the proverbial towel if that was an easy option. We stayed married, and I can honestly say that the feelings I once had have changed dramatically through all these years. I still look to my significant other for friendship and for intimacy but what most of you folks are missing is a spine warming sensation of love that I've finally gotten after decades with my guy. There aren't many words to describe it- it's sort of like that feeling you get on a clear frosty night when the first snow falls and the world seems at peace...or the first scent of rain in Spring when the tulips glow. Of course it isn't any of those things, but I don't have words to express what the sensation is. You are just going to have to accept it when I say that there is a physical feeling of attachment that is much stronger than "being hot for someone". We don't have a lot of patience anymore in society, but love is like a plant. When the roots are shallow it's easy to tear them out of the ground. When they are deep and strong- then they are almost like steel bands. Marriage is a contract, that is absolutely true, but it is also a path to the highest comfort a person can feel here on earth. It's a union of minds and hearts. I know that it is as hard as heck to make it work sometimes...but if you keep nurturing it and you keep working at it there are some mighty sublime feelings of deep pleasure associated with marriage that I hate to see forgotten. People sometimes say one of the reasons they want to marry is that they don't want to die alone..I think they don't want to die without anyone to mourn for them. We can bash marriage all we want, but bottom line is we understand that some people are literally bonded to their partners and when they lose them it's quite tragic. Sorry to disabuse you of your thinking that marriage is a scam, honestly, if that is what comforts you then by all means go on thinking that way- after all, you are probably right, especially if you go into marriage with that shallow conception of it. You get out of it what you put into it. Marriage is a big deal! There is way more to it, and I'm really not trying to be a mystic here- I'm afraid I'm just not smart enough to know how to explain what it is I feel. Can I just say that there is a lot more depth to marriage than silly nitpicking fights about who does what, or bogus bellyaches about how each partner looks. It has nothing to do with how much money your partner makes, or how fine a life you are living. It's that grown up feeling of being home. There is more! |
ThePaleRider77 User ID: 5755545 United States 05/08/2013 07:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | if the social morays of 100 yrs ago excepted divorce i can guarantee the divorce rates would be just as high as today. divorce happens for many reasons some complex,some simple, some ugly . all these moralistic self righteous arguments forget that humans are human and we change throughout our lives and divorce is not always a bad thing. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5454839 I believe it is because people are not real. And when they feel its time to get serious, they find the other person is an asshole. more like the woman wants a free ride,then when she finds out she can have all his shit for free she has acouple kids and rapes the family in court....when I see a single mother today I ask 1 thing.SO how are the lil pay checks doing today... |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 38847279 United States 05/08/2013 07:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Women SAY they want a sensitive man, loves kids, great personality, sober, good in bed, etc....If they find a guy like that, they dump him if he doesn't have a job. It doesn't seem to matter if he posesses ALL the traits that would make him an ideal mate. If the guy doesn't work, eventually she will leave him if she ever dares to get involved with him in the first place. With the fact that white men are going to be a minority in a few years, women are turning more towards "other" types of guys. The man could have all the traits of g*d himself but if he doesn't work to carry the majority of the burden, bye bye. Quoting: bugfucker 3326461 Check it out. ----> [link to www.mgtow.com] I agree that girls want guys to have a job, but that doesn't even make sense. I've got more than enough for two people to live together for a lifetime,yet girls still want us to have a job. What a waste of time, when we could be fucking and doing other productive things together. Even money won't buy sex or love anymore....... |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1211208 United States 05/08/2013 08:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I've been married for almost thirty years. When we first got married it was about romantic love, and sex and overall life expectations...but time passed and we got older and we changed and there have been periods where we both would have agreed to throw in the proverbial towel if that was an easy option. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37211613 We stayed married, and I can honestly say that the feelings I once had have changed dramatically through all these years. I still look to my significant other for friendship and for intimacy but what most of you folks are missing is a spine warming sensation of love that I've finally gotten after decades with my guy. There aren't many words to describe it- it's sort of like that feeling you get on a clear frosty night when the first snow falls and the world seems at peace...or the first scent of rain in Spring when the tulips glow. Of course it isn't any of those things, but I don't have words to express what the sensation is. You are just going to have to accept it when I say that there is a physical feeling of attachment that is much stronger than "being hot for someone". We don't have a lot of patience anymore in society, but love is like a plant. When the roots are shallow it's easy to tear them out of the ground. When they are deep and strong- then they are almost like steel bands. Marriage is a contract, that is absolutely true, but it is also a path to the highest comfort a person can feel here on earth. It's a union of minds and hearts. I know that it is as hard as heck to make it work sometimes...but if you keep nurturing it and you keep working at it there are some mighty sublime feelings of deep pleasure associated with marriage that I hate to see forgotten. People sometimes say one of the reasons they want to marry is that they don't want to die alone..I think they don't want to die without anyone to mourn for them. We can bash marriage all we want, but bottom line is we understand that some people are literally bonded to their partners and when they lose them it's quite tragic. Sorry to disabuse you of your thinking that marriage is a scam, honestly, if that is what comforts you then by all means go on thinking that way- after all, you are probably right, especially if you go into marriage with that shallow conception of it. You get out of it what you put into it. Marriage is a big deal! There is way more to it, and I'm really not trying to be a mystic here- I'm afraid I'm just not smart enough to know how to explain what it is I feel. Can I just say that there is a lot more depth to marriage than silly nitpicking fights about who does what, or bogus bellyaches about how each partner looks. It has nothing to do with how much money your partner makes, or how fine a life you are living. It's that grown up feeling of being home. There is more! This is the problem JUNE CLEAVER IS DEAD AND THE MOLD HAS BEEN BROKEN. Whatever happened 30 years ago doesn't even come close to applying today..Your argument doesn't pertain to the present conversatition... They don't make women like they used to.\ 3-4 marriages is the norm today and you won't stay married to a girl today for 30 years.. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 27771350 United States 05/08/2013 08:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The problem is that good women are hard to find. Like Andre from Outkast says. A Lady is as rare as a Candy Coated Unicorn. Lucky for me I found a lady. A woman that has my back no matter what and a strong moral fabric. Not into the fakeness of this world and it's participants. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 30867238 United States 05/08/2013 08:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The problem is that good women are hard to find. Like Andre from Outkast says. A Lady is as rare as a Candy Coated Unicorn. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27771350 Lucky for me I found a lady. A woman that has my back no matter what and a strong moral fabric. Not into the fakeness of this world and it's participants. You really have your head up in the clouds |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 27771350 United States 05/08/2013 08:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The problem is that good women are hard to find. Like Andre from Outkast says. A Lady is as rare as a Candy Coated Unicorn. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27771350 Lucky for me I found a lady. A woman that has my back no matter what and a strong moral fabric. Not into the fakeness of this world and it's participants. You really have your head up in the clouds Why's that? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 3635267 United Kingdom 05/08/2013 09:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Men don't marry because they end up like me. I'm stuck in a marriage I can't stand. Been married 11 years and any feelings I had for my wife finished a long time ago. The only reason I stay with her is because of the kids, when she out shopping or I'm at work, I'm pretty happy, but when shes there I hate every minute of every day and I'm pretty sure she feels the same way. My life was better before I got married, I had fun, loads of friends and just generally enjoyed my life. Don't get me wrong, when we first got married it wasn't all bad we did love each other once, but that 7 year itch thing really kicked in, we grew apart any interests that we shared just seemed to disappear to the point where we virtually have nothing in common at all, by this time we had a little girl, and I wouldn't do anything to fuck up her life, so now I'm stuck. Stuck with a woman I don't want to be with, stuck because I don't want to hurt the kids and now I go through life like I'm in a prison cell I can't get out of, but I would rather live like that then screwing the kids up. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1211208 United States 05/08/2013 09:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Men don't marry because they end up like me. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3635267 I'm stuck in a marriage I can't stand. Been married 11 years and any feelings I had for my wife finished a long time ago. The only reason I stay with her is because of the kids, when she out shopping or I'm at work, I'm pretty happy, but when shes there I hate every minute of every day and I'm pretty sure she feels the same way. My life was better before I got married, I had fun, loads of friends and just generally enjoyed my life. Don't get me wrong, when we first got married it wasn't all bad we did love each other once, but that 7 year itch thing really kicked in, we grew apart any interests that we shared just seemed to disappear to the point where we virtually have nothing in common at all, by this time we had a little girl, and I wouldn't do anything to fuck up her life, so now I'm stuck. Stuck with a woman I don't want to be with, stuck because I don't want to hurt the kids and now I go through life like I'm in a prison cell I can't get out of, but I would rather live like that then screwing the kids up. The kids are going to be screwed up because they can tell things aren't right with mommy & daddy. So they will grow up seeing this relationship termoil and think it's normal. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 3635267 United Kingdom 05/08/2013 09:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Men don't marry because they end up like me. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3635267 I'm stuck in a marriage I can't stand. Been married 11 years and any feelings I had for my wife finished a long time ago. The only reason I stay with her is because of the kids, when she out shopping or I'm at work, I'm pretty happy, but when shes there I hate every minute of every day and I'm pretty sure she feels the same way. My life was better before I got married, I had fun, loads of friends and just generally enjoyed my life. Don't get me wrong, when we first got married it wasn't all bad we did love each other once, but that 7 year itch thing really kicked in, we grew apart any interests that we shared just seemed to disappear to the point where we virtually have nothing in common at all, by this time we had a little girl, and I wouldn't do anything to fuck up her life, so now I'm stuck. Stuck with a woman I don't want to be with, stuck because I don't want to hurt the kids and now I go through life like I'm in a prison cell I can't get out of, but I would rather live like that then screwing the kids up. The kids are going to be screwed up because they can tell things aren't right with mommy & daddy. So they will grow up seeing this relationship termoil and think it's normal. Theres no turmoil, its not like we fight, we just have no feelings for each other anymore, any interests we used to share have disappeared basically we just live together and thats it. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 25450407 United States 05/08/2013 09:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If females were, paid as much as male counterparts you would have a valid point concerning feminism however, females are typically paid less and in dismal economic environment, they are hired. Quoting: SilverPatriot Females under 30 who are college graduates and in the city now outearn comparable males by approximately 8%, or so the latest government figures show. Add to this the fact that women now outnumber men in college (almost 60% females versus 40% males now, with female enrollment increasing and male enrollment decreasing) and one can see that for the younger generation at least women who get an education are being MORE financially rewarded than men. If you want to say that someone who works 30 hours a week does NOT make as much as someone who works 40 hours a week ... well you are probably correct. If you are going to say that someone who works in a job with little physical risk (say receptionist) does not make as much as one who works in a dangerous job where the risk of being seriously injured or dying on the job (think iron worker or drilling roustabout) then you are correct. Once you adjust out for hours worked For dangerous versus safe jobs For years on the job working then the earnings difference actually swings IN FAVOR of women. |
SilverPatriot User ID: 39491380 United States 05/08/2013 09:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If females were, paid as much as male counterparts you would have a valid point concerning feminism however, females are typically paid less and in dismal economic environment, they are hired. Quoting: SilverPatriot Females under 30 who are college graduates and in the city now outearn comparable males by approximately 8%, or so the latest government figures show. Add to this the fact that women now outnumber men in college (almost 60% females versus 40% males now, with female enrollment increasing and male enrollment decreasing) and one can see that for the younger generation at least women who get an education are being MORE financially rewarded than men. If you want to say that someone who works 30 hours a week does NOT make as much as someone who works 40 hours a week ... well you are probably correct. If you are going to say that someone who works in a job with little physical risk (say receptionist) does not make as much as one who works in a dangerous job where the risk of being seriously injured or dying on the job (think iron worker or drilling roustabout) then you are correct. Once you adjust out for hours worked For dangerous versus safe jobs For years on the job working then the earnings difference actually swings IN FAVOR of women. Sorry guy, as a female military veteran and former sheriff’s deputy I can attest that females certainly do work dangerous jobs successfully. Everyone has their limitations though and heights are mine thus I could never climb utility poles with ease however many males cannot do this task either so what is your point. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 30867238 United States 05/08/2013 09:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If females were, paid as much as male counterparts you would have a valid point concerning feminism however, females are typically paid less and in dismal economic environment, they are hired. Quoting: SilverPatriot Females under 30 who are college graduates and in the city now outearn comparable males by approximately 8%, or so the latest government figures show. Add to this the fact that women now outnumber men in college (almost 60% females versus 40% males now, with female enrollment increasing and male enrollment decreasing) and one can see that for the younger generation at least women who get an education are being MORE financially rewarded than men. If you want to say that someone who works 30 hours a week does NOT make as much as someone who works 40 hours a week ... well you are probably correct. If you are going to say that someone who works in a job with little physical risk (say receptionist) does not make as much as one who works in a dangerous job where the risk of being seriously injured or dying on the job (think iron worker or drilling roustabout) then you are correct. Once you adjust out for hours worked For dangerous versus safe jobs For years on the job working then the earnings difference actually swings IN FAVOR of women. Sorry guy, as a female military veteran and former sheriff’s deputy I can attest that females certainly do work dangerous jobs successfully. Everyone has their limitations though and heights are mine thus I could never climb utility poles with ease however many males cannot do this task either so what is your point. Climbing telephone is probably one thing females can outdo guys on. As a male i've tried, but couldn't get up half way--I'd suddenly get that funny feeling then my legs buckled and then helplessly slide to the ground. |
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SilverPatriot User ID: 39491380 United States 05/08/2013 10:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If females were, paid as much as male counterparts you would have a valid point concerning feminism however, females are typically paid less and in dismal economic environment, they are hired. Quoting: SilverPatriot Females under 30 who are college graduates and in the city now outearn comparable males by approximately 8%, or so the latest government figures show. Add to this the fact that women now outnumber men in college (almost 60% females versus 40% males now, with female enrollment increasing and male enrollment decreasing) and one can see that for the younger generation at least women who get an education are being MORE financially rewarded than men. If you want to say that someone who works 30 hours a week does NOT make as much as someone who works 40 hours a week ... well you are probably correct. If you are going to say that someone who works in a job with little physical risk (say receptionist) does not make as much as one who works in a dangerous job where the risk of being seriously injured or dying on the job (think iron worker or drilling roustabout) then you are correct. Once you adjust out for hours worked For dangerous versus safe jobs For years on the job working then the earnings difference actually swings IN FAVOR of women. Sorry guy, as a female military veteran and former sheriff’s deputy I can attest that females certainly do work dangerous jobs successfully. Everyone has their limitations though and heights are mine thus I could never climb utility poles with ease however many males cannot do this task either so what is your point. Climbing telephone is probably one thing females can outdo guys on. As a male i've tried, but couldn't get up half way--I'd suddenly get that funny feeling then my legs buckled and then helplessly slide to the ground. As a military female veteran climbing high was required while cross training in an associated career field however, I can tell you this native New Yorker cringed while visiting a dentist in a high rise in NYC. We are who we are and although I never backed down from a violent perp however, scaling heights is my weakness |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 35430172 United States 05/08/2013 10:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I see a lot of marxist brainwashing in here. Equality, victimization, pay differences, etc. Shhh... Quiet your mind... Do you hear that voice? Deep down inside of you? That faint, tiny little whisper. It is yearning to come out, yearning for compassion, understanding, and unconditional love, humbleness, integrity, honesty, love, empathy, valuation of human life. The mind keeps silencing it though, the tyranny of hyper-sanity wins and the vicious cycle continues. That voice is your heart. It is time to begin the golden age. We must stop the fighting, and love all no matter what! NO MATTER WHAT!! |