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Discuss: THE HOLY SPIRIT

 
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Therefore I tell you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven people, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven. And whoever speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come.
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this is a contradiction
if God the father
God the son
and God the Holy Spirit
are all the same Trinity

whatever you do to the son,
you also do unto the Holy Spirit.
they are one

this makes the quote an oxy-moron
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It amazes me how many believe that the Holy Spirit is a Being while the scripture quite clearly shows a different picture!

That said, I still feel that each should be allowed to believe what they can understand and wish. What others believe or why they believe it, is none of my business! hf
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Well, I do believe he is a being, I've come to know him as such, as part of the trinity that is God.

But, of course, we all have free will as regards to our beliefs.
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I used to believe that as well but then several issues were awakened in my -( I believe by the Holy Spirit), and I began to see things differently. During the transition from what I had believed to what I now believe I was in great confusion which lasted for probably more than a year. Then - through the scriptures - the Spirit showed me the clarity of it all.

Do I believe in the Trinity - YES, but not in the form I used to. Do I believe in God - again YES but I see God differently now! I also understand Jesus the Christ in a different manner as I do the Father!

It's probably not something I can easily explain to others but for me it's quite clear.

One thing a do absolutely believe and that is that each one's beliefs are their personal matter! I am happy sharing but reject bashing - so to speak!

Blessings to you in your walk of faith! Crimson rosnogging
That which is - has already been, And what is to be - has already been. Quote: King Solomon.
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so how many of you didn't know that in
early Christianity there was only
God the Father and God the Son ???

The Nicean Creed of 325 AD

speaks of the 2 God structure,
father, son

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An Amendment to the Nicean Creed
in 381 AD at the 2nd Ecumenical
Council granted the Holy Spirit
as the same substance as the
father and son, thus creating
the Trinity.

in 381 AD, it became a 3 God structure
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It amazes me how many believe that the Holy Spirit is a Being while the scripture quite clearly shows a different picture!

That said, I still feel that each should be allowed to believe what they can understand and wish. What others believe or why they believe it, is none of my business! hf
 Quoting: Ozicell


I always think of the Holy Spirit as a non stop radio frequency blasting out the directions for life. It is always there if you tune in and listen. Definitely formless in my opinion and encompasses all things. If you don't listen to what it is telling you, you can really screws things up.
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Interesting - the radio frequency doesn't care whether you tune in or not! It's your choice and you have no one else to blame if you miss out! hf
That which is - has already been, And what is to be - has already been. Quote: King Solomon.
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The Holy Spirit is the female aspect of the Godhead. She is the Goddess, the eternal Living companion of the Living God. Read Proverbs 8-9 for starters. And stop calling her a him!
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so how many of you didn't know that in
early Christianity there was only
God the Father and God the Son ???

The Nicean Creed of 325 AD

speaks of the 2 God structure,
father, son

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

An Amendment to the Nicean Creed
in 381 AD at the 2nd Ecumenical
Council granted the Holy Spirit
as the same substance as the
father and son, thus creating
the Trinity.

in 381 AD, it became a 3 God structure
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Interesting indeed and how many know that the term God was coined by Socrates as an expression of the highest Good. All Deities before that were referred to as Lords. Of course modern translations don't take these things into account. How many know that in the original Egyptian Coptic scriptures Christ was actually referred to as Chrest and Christians - Chrestians! (Of course these are English translations but they hold true in the original language). So Christ = Anointed and Christians = Anointed ones, while Chrest = Good and Chrestians = Good ones!

Unfortunately I can't give you references to this but if you dig, you should be able to find it yourselves.
That which is - has already been, And what is to be - has already been. Quote: King Solomon.
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The Holy Spirit is the female aspect of the Godhead. She is the Goddess, the eternal Living companion of the Living God. Read Proverbs 8-9 for starters. And stop calling her a him!
 Quoting: Particular Individual


I believe the Holy Spirit is genderless! hf
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It amazes me how many believe that the Holy Spirit is a Being while the scripture quite clearly shows a different picture!

That said, I still feel that each should be allowed to believe what they can understand and wish. What others believe or why they believe it, is none of my business! hf
 Quoting: Ozicell


I always think of the Holy Spirit as a non stop radio frequency blasting out the directions for life. It is always there if you tune in and listen. Definitely formless in my opinion and encompasses all things. If you don't listen to what it is telling you, you can really screws things up.
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Interesting - the radio frequency doesn't care whether you tune in or not! It's your choice and you have no one else to blame if you miss out! hf
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I've enjoyed the conversation and your insight. Nice to see that someone else sees things in a similar manner. I guess its the human in me that seeks validation. I am walking away from GLP today. Great website, I just feel that, although fun, I am just not a conspiracy guy. I was happy to see this thread on the way out the door. thanks for your input, it has opened doors to further growth.
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The Holy Spirit is the female aspect of the Godhead. She is the Goddess, the eternal Living companion of the Living God. Read Proverbs 8-9 for starters. And stop calling her a him!
 Quoting: Particular Individual


I believe the Holy Spirit is genderless! hf
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I believe you are wrong but we can disagree and still get along, Cheers!
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The Holy Spirit is the female aspect of the Godhead. She is the Goddess, the eternal Living companion of the Living God. Read Proverbs 8-9 for starters. And stop calling her a him!
 Quoting: Particular Individual


I believe the Holy Spirit is genderless! hf
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I believe you are wrong but we can disagree and still get along, Cheers!
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Genderless or female, perhaps

Maybe androgynous?

So many options here

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this week on tuesday i got down on my kness and asked the lord to forgive me and everyone who has ever hurted me i had a few people which i never forgave to this week even the its been years i had no mercy towards them this week i placed all of it to rest for good i pray to the lord these people heard my prayer and felt me thinking of them and forgiving them i want them to know i forgave them i want them to know how i feel i pray the lord touched them with this message of me praying for them and forgiving them i prayed for the kids of my love i even texted her telling her almost everything i had to say she belives in the lord but doesnt act like it she is very unforgiving backstabbing and talktive about gosspi i pray i get to speak to her soon i pray for her to text me lord i need her i need her i need you her and her kids please lord let this happen touch her the same way i asked for everyone forgiveness let her speak to me i love her i made one phone call one phone call it cost me eveything i was helping her mother i need her i need her please lord let her hear my prayers let her kids know iam praying for them let her know i think of her let her know i need this her friends are coming back into my life and talking to me she still talks about me i dont know if its a goodthing or a bad thing all i know iam still in her mind it seems lord please let her know i need her please lord touch her tonight please lord if she is scare for any reason about anything replace it with calm with the fact i love her i need her i want to be with her i love her kids her friends or no good most of them she doesnt see this or care lord i need a family i need love i need this i belive in you i need this please lord let my phone ring or text with forgiveness and love i need her i need her more than anything she is the love of my life i need her i need you her and her kids i will bring her kids with her to you

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Let me tell you what worked for me. I walked away for awhile and prayed and meditated and got to really know my true spirit. We are all given the gift of free will and this law cannot be broken. Remember to pray for the correct answers only. look deep inside.

There is much love in this world and there are those of us that out here that have much love to share. Not the intimate kind that most look for in a mate, but a genuine love for those desperately seek for answers.

Find your true self. Allow the answer. When I had to leave my wife and two children, I decided that there would be no ego involved and no confrontations. No matter how amazingly mad she made me, I maintained my position as a solid rock and allowed her to have what some would consider to be the upper hand. In time we became great friends and if I would have wanted to continue the relationship, I could have, but realized that our spirits were not on the same plane. I still have the children half of the time and they are better off because we are not fighting all of the time.

I don't know your whole situation, but I sense the desperation. Wherever you may be, there are those of us out here that will be with you in spirit. Find your spirit my friend, it is hiding in that mass of organs and information filled brain.

Thankyou for your advice kind words i found myself years ago have been getting better at it the last year has been great in me finding my spirit me and her never fought it just ended over one phone call she never said why or gave me a reason she just stopped iam still asking for forgiveness from her and the lord for us to heal and talk i dont have any kids all her kids are from others like you i let her have the upper hand it has been hurtful embrass degrading absive to be embrass without answering back just to be hit without fighting back i have been taking it for a year iam asking praying for love i have no family or wife or kids to make it worst i lost my job on firady got laid off its all just one ball of things not going well it all started with her i pray for all this i still stay calm i still pray for her her kids even with all this i have peace letting the lord take control its hard the very hard i do want to love her right now i be happy with a text i have so many dreams of this some have come true my story is long i do thankyou for your support and advice thankyou my friend i do pray she feels me in spirit she feels me in her mind and heart please
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There have been times in my life where I have cursed God (I'm a retard, yes), but I have NEVER, EVER denied any of the spiritual experiences I have had, and never will. Why? Because I know for a bloody fact that they happened and that it was more than just a "tickle in my tummy"...I've been lucky enough to have full-blown miracles happen right in front of my damn eyes.
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It amazes me how many believe that the Holy Spirit is a Being while the scripture quite clearly shows a different picture!

That said, I still feel that each should be allowed to believe what they can understand and wish. What others believe or why they believe it, is none of my business! hf
 Quoting: Ozicell


I always think of the Holy Spirit as a non stop radio frequency blasting out the directions for life. It is always there if you tune in and listen. Definitely formless in my opinion and encompasses all things. If you don't listen to what it is telling you, you can really screws things up.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27757864


Interesting - the radio frequency doesn't care whether you tune in or not! It's your choice and you have no one else to blame if you miss out! hf
 Quoting: Ozicell


I've enjoyed the conversation and your insight. Nice to see that someone else sees things in a similar manner. I guess its the human in me that seeks validation. I am walking away from GLP today. Great website, I just feel that, although fun, I am just not a conspiracy guy. I was happy to see this thread on the way out the door. thanks for your input, it has opened doors to further growth.
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May your path be filled with blessings for you to collect. hf
That which is - has already been, And what is to be - has already been. Quote: King Solomon.
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The Holy Spirit is the female aspect of the Godhead. She is the Goddess, the eternal Living companion of the Living God. Read Proverbs 8-9 for starters. And stop calling her a him!
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I believe the Holy Spirit is genderless! hf
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I believe you are wrong but we can disagree and still get along, Cheers!
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Absolutely ! hf
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The Holy Spirit is the female aspect of the Godhead. She is the Goddess, the eternal Living companion of the Living God. Read Proverbs 8-9 for starters. And stop calling her a him!
 Quoting: Particular Individual


I believe the Holy Spirit is genderless! hf
 Quoting: Ozicell



I believe you are wrong but we can disagree and still get along, Cheers!
 Quoting: Particular Individual


Genderless or female, perhaps

Maybe androgynous?

So many options here

scratching
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Only YOU have the power to choose for yourself what you believe. hf
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I believe the Holy Spirit is genderless! hf
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I believe you are wrong but we can disagree and still get along, Cheers!
 Quoting: Particular Individual


Genderless or female, perhaps

Maybe androgynous?

So many options here

scratching
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Only YOU have the power to choose for yourself what you believe. hf
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I like the bird idea as well

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I believe you are wrong but we can disagree and still get along, Cheers!
 Quoting: Particular Individual


Genderless or female, perhaps

Maybe androgynous?

So many options here

scratching
 Quoting: Azeratel Axo


Only YOU have the power to choose for yourself what you believe. hf
 Quoting: Ozicell


I like the bird idea as well

WhiteFireRain
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Amazing pic and very beautiful! Thanks.
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I believe the Holy Spirit is genderless! hf
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I believe you are wrong but we can disagree and still get along, Cheers!
 Quoting: Particular Individual


Genderless or female, perhaps

Maybe androgynous?

So many options here

scratching
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Only YOU have the power to choose for yourself what you believe. hf
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^This is overflowing with truth!!
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Interesting indeed and how many know that the term God was coined by Socrates as an expression of the highest Good.
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Socrates penned in Greek, not English.
God in Greek translates to Theos

God is an english translation and had not
been invented yet in Socrates era.

your relation between God and Good
is false
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The Holy Spirit is known as the Shekinah...the divine feminine presence of God.
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The Holy Spirit is known as the Shekinah...the divine feminine presence of God.
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Thank you!
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Interesting indeed and how many know that the term God was coined by Socrates as an expression of the highest Good.
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Socrates penned in Greek, not English.
God in Greek translates to Theos

God is an english translation and had not
been invented yet in Socrates era.

your relation between God and Good
is false
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Your entitled to your opinion.
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The Holy Spirit is known as the Shekinah...the divine feminine presence of God.
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Thank you!
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Your welcome.
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The Holy Spirit is known as the Shekinah...the divine feminine presence of God.
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Thank you!
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there is no proof anywhere that suggest
it is feminine in nature

Shekinah [Heb.,=dwelling, presence], in Judaism, term used in the Targum (Aramaic translation of the Hebrew Bible) and elsewhere to indicate the manifestation of the presence of God among people. Whenever the Hebrew text speaks of the presence of God in a way that implies certain human limitations, the Targum paraphrases by substituting the word Shekinah for the word God (e.g., "And I will cause my Shekinah to dwell," in the Targum Onkelos). Although the Shekinah is rarely intended by the rabbis in the Talmud and Midrash as an intermediary between God and people, the word is sometimes used in such a manner that it cannot be identical with God, e.g., "God allows his Shekinah to rest." The medieval Jewish philosophers, however, wishing to avoid the problems of anthropomorphic interpretation of this concept, posited a separate existence for the Shekinah, which played a minor role at best in their systems. In the kabbalah and other mystical works of the later medieval and modern periods, the Shekinah is given far more importance and is often treated as the consort of God who can only be reunited with God through human fulfillment of all the divine commandments, which would likewise signal the messianic age.
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it could be described as nothing more than
the halo effect around one's head.
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The Holy Spirit is known as the Shekinah...the divine feminine presence of God.
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Thank you!
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there is no proof anywhere that suggest
it is feminine in nature

Shekinah [Heb.,=dwelling, presence], in Judaism, term used in the Targum (Aramaic translation of the Hebrew Bible) and elsewhere to indicate the manifestation of the presence of God among people. Whenever the Hebrew text speaks of the presence of God in a way that implies certain human limitations, the Targum paraphrases by substituting the word Shekinah for the word God (e.g., "And I will cause my Shekinah to dwell," in the Targum Onkelos). Although the Shekinah is rarely intended by the rabbis in the Talmud and Midrash as an intermediary between God and people, the word is sometimes used in such a manner that it cannot be identical with God, e.g., "God allows his Shekinah to rest." The medieval Jewish philosophers, however, wishing to avoid the problems of anthropomorphic interpretation of this concept, posited a separate existence for the Shekinah, which played a minor role at best in their systems. In the kabbalah and other mystical works of the later medieval and modern periods, the Shekinah is given far more importance and is often treated as the consort of God who can only be reunited with God through human fulfillment of all the divine commandments, which would likewise signal the messianic age.
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it could be described as nothing more than
the halo effect around one's head.
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The holy trinity is made up of the Father, Mother and son.

God the Father...Jesus the Son...Mother the Holy Spirit
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Shekinah, Shechinah, Shechina, or Schechinah, (Hebrew: שכינה‎) is the English spelling of a grammatically feminine Hebrew ancient blessing of God. The original word means the dwelling or settling, and denotes the dwelling or settling of the divine presence of God, especially in the Temple in Jerusalem.
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The Shekinah is held by some to represent the feminine attributes of the presence of God (Shekinah being a feminine word in Hebrew), based especially on readings of the Talmud.
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[link to www.universalkabbalah.net]
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I am personally trying to figure all this stuff out. My wife is big into God and Jesus and lately it seems as though every conversation turns into God and Jesus. I've been reading a lot of these religitard threads because I AM CURIOUS. I have had experiences with the 'other side'.....so, I DO know that there is other stuff out there. Does that correlate to God? Is there a ying to the yang? If I KNOW for a fact there are evil spirits and demons...does that de facto make me 'believer'? I am a really good channeler....but don't know if that means God is real......


Any words of wisdom from my GLP community??


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