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Therefore I tell you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven people, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven. And whoever speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come.
John 4:4 "because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world."
Psalm 32:1 "Blessed is he whose transgression is forgiven, whose sin is covered."
James 4:4 "Therefore whoever wishes to be a friend of the world makes himself an enemy of God."
John 15:18-19 "If the world hate you, ye know that it hated me before it hated you. If ye were of this world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you."
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John 4:4 "because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world."
Psalm 32:1 "Blessed is he whose transgression is forgiven, whose sin is covered."
James 4:4 "Therefore whoever wishes to be a friend of the world makes himself an enemy of God."
John 15:18-19 "If the world hate you, ye know that it hated me before it hated you. If ye were of this world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you."
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John 4:4 "because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world."
Psalm 32:1 "Blessed is he whose transgression is forgiven, whose sin is covered."
James 4:4 "Therefore whoever wishes to be a friend of the world makes himself an enemy of God."
John 15:18-19 "If the world hate you, ye know that it hated me before it hated you. If ye were of this world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you."
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indeed
hf
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Pope Francis talked about him recently -

[link to www.news.va]
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Therefore I tell you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven people, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven. And whoever speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come.
 Quoting: TheWorldsEnemy


So basically we cant say anything or discuss anything because its blasphemy???

Your fuking Nutts!!!!! & contradict your own words!!!!


the religious have always been crazy about God yet think they are righteouss

this is what Jesus came here to abolish & set you free from(yourself)

yet it continues to this day

Yet you even fail to realize that Jesus himself is the holy spirit of all creation(He is the dove himself)

You'd crucify him again if he came in the flesh because of your lack of openness & awareness to the Lords ways
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Therefore I tell you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven people, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven. And whoever speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come.
 Quoting: TheWorldsEnemy


Holy Spirit is the spirit in all things. No one can blaspheme the holy spirit without damning themself... because.... it is themself
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or rather it is the connection between all things... words kinda fail at this point

don't confuse ego with self
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You have raised 3 points of discussion!

1 - Sin
2 - Holy
3 - Spirit

1 - Sin is chosen separation by a Being/Soul usually brought about by feelings of guilt or shame over some deed or action committed.

2 - Holy is a term which describes uniqueness or one of a kind unlike anything else in eternity.

3 - Spirit is a term which describes a certain nature, eg. the Spirit of Love or the Spirit of Lust etc. As such, it may best be described as a potential for until a Being/Soul adopts it and employs it, it remains dormant.

Now in terms of the discussion at hand, Holy and Spirit go together as it is in the case of biblical reference where Jesus, the Father and those moved by the Holy Spirit are concerned. It refers to the Unique Nature which drives these Beings/Souls and that Unique Nature is Unconditional Love aka the Holy Spirit!

As the power of the Spirit lays with the Being/Soul to exercise, if said Being/Soul separates themselves from that Spirit as mentioned in point 1. - the Spirit is powerless to help! Hence sinning/separation from the Holy Spirit cannot be forgiven - rather it's up to the Being/Soul to recognise their state and take steps to rectify the situation. And because this is not as easy as it sounds, such Beings/Souls usually remain lost.

Of course all of the above is MHO. Please read with discretion and take it as you will. hf
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I am reading The Code of the HS by Stone it is great and humbling
John 20:22
And when he had said this, he breathed on them, and saith unto them, Receive ye the Holy Ghost::hf:
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I am reading The Code of the HS by Stone it is great and humbling
John 20:22
And when he had said this, he breathed on them, and saith unto them, Receive ye the Holy Ghost::hf:
 Quoting: Goofy for God


Im reading it also, just started, one of the reasons I made the thread :)
John 4:4 "because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world."
Psalm 32:1 "Blessed is he whose transgression is forgiven, whose sin is covered."
James 4:4 "Therefore whoever wishes to be a friend of the world makes himself an enemy of God."
John 15:18-19 "If the world hate you, ye know that it hated me before it hated you. If ye were of this world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you."
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holy=sacred
spirit=spiritus=breath
Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle.

We are not human beings on a spiritual journey.
We are spiritual beings on a human journey.
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God is the nature of all things. we give it different labels, but it is the nature of all things. The holy spirit is the message on how to be one with all things. To blaspheme the Holy Spirit is not to speak badly, but to boldly not listen to the messages.
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holy=sacred
spirit=spiritus=breath
 Quoting: skydiva


Like breath to the lungs is spirit to the soul.
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holy=sacred
spirit=spiritus=breath
 Quoting: skydiva


Like breath to the lungs is spirit to the soul.
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And the breath of itself has no will but is drawn by the will of the lungs and in turn becomes the essence of life! So likewise is the Spirit to the Soul! hf
That which is - has already been, And what is to be - has already been. Quote: King Solomon.
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Regarding the sin of blasphemy against the Holy Spirit,
it means you are deliberately rejecting mercy,
by not repenting and asking for forgiveness,
which the Holy Spirit is offering,
it is a hardness of heart that can lead to eternal loss.
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Regarding the sin of blasphemy against the Holy Spirit,
it means you are deliberately rejecting mercy,
by not repenting and asking for forgiveness,
which the Holy Spirit is offering,
it is a hardness of heart that can lead to eternal loss.
 Quoting: K.Kool


Exactly! The Holy Spirit is not to blame for the lack of forgiveness but as you say, it is the hardness of the heart that rejects the mercy! How sad this really is!
That which is - has already been, And what is to be - has already been. Quote: King Solomon.
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holy=sacred
spirit=spiritus=breath
 Quoting: skydiva


Like breath to the lungs is spirit to the soul.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27757864


And the breath of itself has no will but is drawn by the will of the lungs and in turn becomes the essence of life! So likewise is the Spirit to the Soul! hf
 Quoting: Ozicell


Nice touch Oz
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Regarding the sin of blasphemy against the Holy Spirit,
it means you are deliberately rejecting mercy,
by not repenting and asking for forgiveness,
which the Holy Spirit is offering,
it is a hardness of heart that can lead to eternal loss.
 Quoting: K.Kool


Exactly! The Holy Spirit is not to blame for the lack of forgiveness but as you say, it is the hardness of the heart that rejects the mercy! How sad this really is!
 Quoting: Ozicell



It is.

He is filling my days and nights with wonder,

let all hearts open to his presence!

hf
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Regarding the sin of blasphemy against the Holy Spirit,
it means you are deliberately rejecting mercy,
by not repenting and asking for forgiveness,
which the Holy Spirit is offering,
it is a hardness of heart that can lead to eternal loss.
 Quoting: K.Kool


A big part of this and quite possibly the most important in asking for forgiveness is forgiving yourself. It has to be a conjunction of asking and doing for it to truly work. This puts your ego aside and makes you admit that you are human.

It is also important to ask others for forgiveness if you have sinned against them, but it is their prerogative to forgive. The ball is in their court and you can go on. Once you have done all of this, then you have done all you can do and go on living life in a better perspective.
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It amazes me how many believe that the Holy Spirit is a Being while the scripture quite clearly shows a different picture!

That said, I still feel that each should be allowed to believe what they can understand and wish. What others believe or why they believe it, is none of my business! hf
That which is - has already been, And what is to be - has already been. Quote: King Solomon.
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Regarding the sin of blasphemy against the Holy Spirit,
it means you are deliberately rejecting mercy,
by not repenting and asking for forgiveness,
which the Holy Spirit is offering,
it is a hardness of heart that can lead to eternal loss.
 Quoting: K.Kool


Exactly! The Holy Spirit is not to blame for the lack of forgiveness but as you say, it is the hardness of the heart that rejects the mercy! How sad this really is!
 Quoting: Ozicell



It is.

He is filling my days and nights with wonder,

let all hearts open to his presence!

hf
 Quoting: K.Kool


Long stem
That which is - has already been, And what is to be - has already been. Quote: King Solomon.
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It amazes me how many believe that the Holy Spirit is a Being while the scripture quite clearly shows a different picture!

That said, I still feel that each should be allowed to believe what they can understand and wish. What others believe or why they believe it, is none of my business! hf
 Quoting: Ozicell


I always think of the Holy Spirit as a non stop radio frequency blasting out the directions for life. It is always there if you tune in and listen. Definitely formless in my opinion and encompasses all things. If you don't listen to what it is telling you, you can really screws things up.
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this week on tuesday i got down on my kness and asked the lord to forgive me and everyone who has ever hurted me i had a few people which i never forgave to this week even the its been years i had no mercy towards them this week i placed all of it to rest for good i pray to the lord these people heard my prayer and felt me thinking of them and forgiving them i want them to know i forgave them i want them to know how i feel i pray the lord touched them with this message of me praying for them and forgiving them i prayed for the kids of my love i even texted her telling her almost everything i had to say she belives in the lord but doesnt act like it she is very unforgiving backstabbing and talktive about gosspi i pray i get to speak to her soon i pray for her to text me lord i need her i need her i need you her and her kids please lord let this happen touch her the same way i asked for everyone forgiveness let her speak to me i love her i made one phone call one phone call it cost me eveything i was helping her mother i need her i need her please lord let her hear my prayers let her kids know iam praying for them let her know i think of her let her know i need this her friends are coming back into my life and talking to me she still talks about me i dont know if its a goodthing or a bad thing all i know iam still in her mind it seems lord please let her know i need her please lord touch her tonight please lord if she is scare for any reason about anything replace it with calm with the fact i love her i need her i want to be with her i love her kids her friends or no good most of them she doesnt see this or care lord i need a family i need love i need this i belive in you i need this please lord let my phone ring or text with forgiveness and love i need her i need her more than anything she is the love of my life i need her i need you her and her kids i will bring her kids with her to you
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It amazes me how many believe that the Holy Spirit is a Being while the scripture quite clearly shows a different picture!

That said, I still feel that each should be allowed to believe what they can understand and wish. What others believe or why they believe it, is none of my business! hf
 Quoting: Ozicell



Well, I do believe he is a being, I've come to know him as such, as part of the trinity that is God.

But, of course, we all have free will as regards to our beliefs.
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My issue is it tells you to believe it so blindly. What it speaks is true, but If the ride isn't over when we think it is, I want to keep my spirit strong and guarded.
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Most people don't have even the smallest clue how that verse should truly be interpreted.

But take take comfort in that. If you don't know what it really means, then it is impossible to do.
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I think most people need to realize they are doing Gods work already. ANd should just try and be a little better everyday :)


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this week on tuesday i got down on my kness and asked the lord to forgive me and everyone who has ever hurted me i had a few people which i never forgave to this week even the its been years i had no mercy towards them this week i placed all of it to rest for good i pray to the lord these people heard my prayer and felt me thinking of them and forgiving them i want them to know i forgave them i want them to know how i feel i pray the lord touched them with this message of me praying for them and forgiving them i prayed for the kids of my love i even texted her telling her almost everything i had to say she belives in the lord but doesnt act like it she is very unforgiving backstabbing and talktive about gosspi i pray i get to speak to her soon i pray for her to text me lord i need her i need her i need you her and her kids please lord let this happen touch her the same way i asked for everyone forgiveness let her speak to me i love her i made one phone call one phone call it cost me eveything i was helping her mother i need her i need her please lord let her hear my prayers let her kids know iam praying for them let her know i think of her let her know i need this her friends are coming back into my life and talking to me she still talks about me i dont know if its a goodthing or a bad thing all i know iam still in her mind it seems lord please let her know i need her please lord touch her tonight please lord if she is scare for any reason about anything replace it with calm with the fact i love her i need her i want to be with her i love her kids her friends or no good most of them she doesnt see this or care lord i need a family i need love i need this i belive in you i need this please lord let my phone ring or text with forgiveness and love i need her i need her more than anything she is the love of my life i need her i need you her and her kids i will bring her kids with her to you
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Let me tell you what worked for me. I walked away for awhile and prayed and meditated and got to really know my true spirit. We are all given the gift of free will and this law cannot be broken. Remember to pray for the correct answers only. look deep inside.

There is much love in this world and there are those of us that out here that have much love to share. Not the intimate kind that most look for in a mate, but a genuine love for those desperately seek for answers.

Find your true self. Allow the answer. When I had to leave my wife and two children, I decided that there would be no ego involved and no confrontations. No matter how amazingly mad she made me, I maintained my position as a solid rock and allowed her to have what some would consider to be the upper hand. In time we became great friends and if I would have wanted to continue the relationship, I could have, but realized that our spirits were not on the same plane. I still have the children half of the time and they are better off because we are not fighting all of the time.

I don't know your whole situation, but I sense the desperation. Wherever you may be, there are those of us out here that will be with you in spirit. Find your spirit my friend, it is hiding in that mass of organs and information filled brain.
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