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Well all I know is that the Whithouse had the audacity to post a fake Youtube video from 2004 of a dead Bin Laden as the official footage of his death. That pretty much sums up the human race and any actions a human spirit needs to take from there. In other words, the zombie nation will implode at some point from degradation and spoil. All this spying and costumes in a fake Dollhouse is the stupidest thing in the Cosmos and has no future, because it produces nothing -- it only takes, consumes. Everything is fake and its projected throughout. Frauds, liars, cheats, and in the end the bacteria and worms win. Tell it to the hand. And tell me the truth, are some of you people like, fake people -- I mean, not really human -- spiritless? C'mon, you can tell me. Step out of character for a minute and admit it, you're a fucking mess. Drunks, addicts -- terrified of death. Because it is real to fake spirits, right?
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S-300 is not that advance. Its kinda 1980's. S-400's would be a concern. Israel would have no problems with counter measures.
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By advanced do you mean controlling small fast darty things by the scores at the same time or just being immune to 'stealth technology'?

'80's hardware is test proven, the ultra modern software might not have even been deployed for Moscow if no new threats have bested the S-400 method of running a unified defense and counter attack to both air and land systems. Does 100km take in most satellites?
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Well all I know is that the Whithouse had the audacity to post a fake Youtube video from 2004 of a dead Bin Laden as the official footage of his death. That pretty much sums up the human race and any actions a human spirit needs to take from there. In other words, the zombie nation will implode at some point from degradation and spoil. All this spying and costumes in a fake Dollhouse is the stupidest thing in the Cosmos and has no future, because it produces nothing -- it only takes, consumes. Everything is fake and its projected throughout. Frauds, liars, cheats, and in the end the bacteria and worms win. Tell it to the hand. And tell me the truth, are some of you people like, fake people -- I mean, not really human -- spiritless? C'mon, you can tell me. Step out of character for a minute and admit it, you're a fucking mess. Drunks, addicts -- terrified of death. Because it is real to fake spirits, right?
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didn't think none of you maggots would answer. But I do have a message from the proctor of this plane, it would seem they want all of you fish swimming in the middle to
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S-300 is not that advance. Its kinda 1980's. S-400's would be a concern. Israel would have no problems with counter measures.
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By advanced do you mean controlling small fast darty things by the scores at the same time or just being immune to 'stealth technology'?

'80's hardware is test proven, the ultra modern software might not have even been deployed for Moscow if no new threats have bested the S-400 method of running a unified defense and counter attack to both air and land systems. Does 100km take in most satellites?
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Iraq had them in 2003. Didnt and couldnt do shit. onnce you switch on your radar you are a target for HAARM missiles
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S-300 is not that advance. Its kinda 1980's. S-400's would be a concern. Israel would have no problems with counter measures.
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S-300 is the equivlant of a PAC-1. Made in the early 80's. LOL
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S-300 is the whole class name. Even S-400 may be referred as S-300 PMU-3.
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S-300 is not that advance. Its kinda 1980's. S-400's would be a concern. Israel would have no problems with counter measures.
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By advanced do you mean controlling small fast darty things by the scores at the same time or just being immune to 'stealth technology'?

'80's hardware is test proven, the ultra modern software might not have even been deployed for Moscow if no new threats have bested the S-400 method of running a unified defense and counter attack to both air and land systems. Does 100km take in most satellites?
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Iraq had them in 2003. Didnt and couldnt do shit. onnce you switch on your radar you are a target for HAARM missiles
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Iraq never had S-300.
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S-300 is not that advance. Its kinda 1980's. S-400's would be a concern. Israel would have no problems with counter measures.
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By advanced do you mean controlling small fast darty things by the scores at the same time or just being immune to 'stealth technology'?

'80's hardware is test proven, the ultra modern software might not have even been deployed for Moscow if no new threats have bested the S-400 method of running a unified defense and counter attack to both air and land systems. Does 100km take in most satellites?
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Iraq had them in 2003. Didnt and couldnt do shit. onnce you switch on your radar you are a target for HAARM missiles
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Iraq never had S-300.
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Unless its Anti tank Missiles and Machine guns or Subs. Russian stuff is crap. All Crap
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By advanced do you mean controlling small fast darty things by the scores at the same time or just being immune to 'stealth technology'?

'80's hardware is test proven, the ultra modern software might not have even been deployed for Moscow if no new threats have bested the S-400 method of running a unified defense and counter attack to both air and land systems. Does 100km take in most satellites?
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Iraq had them in 2003. Didnt and couldnt do shit. onnce you switch on your radar you are a target for HAARM missiles
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Iraq never had S-300.
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Unless its Anti tank Missiles and Machine guns or Subs. Russian stuff is crap. All Crap
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Trust me I saw hundreds of burnt out BMP's and T-72's in 2003. Its all crap. Turkey Shoot.
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Iraq had them in 2003. Didnt and couldnt do shit. onnce you switch on your radar you are a target for HAARM missiles
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Iraq was supplied by the US, including the chems to make bio agents with. That is why the US hijacked that list of 'goodies' before the UN even got it, the party that requested it.

Syria put their faith it jets while not practicing with said machines. Today it is air defense only and unlike the ancient software these launch platforms are able to be controlled by a number of remote systems and with the newer propellents the speed is a mach or 2 faster than before so try and hit those speedy little fuckers while being 'stealthy'. The report that they were guided bombs dropped by the IDF from Lebanon is bullshit, they were a deception, it was an Arrow 3 missile launch from Israeli soil. Can you imagine the headlines with and Israeli jet crashing in Lebanon carrying the bomb that went off in Damascus. I would think the UN would have to give Lebanon the right to install some 'defensive' hardware to make sure shit like that doesn't happen again.

Nor is the distance to Damascus any longer from northern Israel as they could fly over the Golan Heights and it would never be reported. That would still but the craft at risk from the S-series so it is not something that could be done for an extended series of bombing. With missile being the booster you save a plane and small munitions might still get to targets. )not without location being identified and the data sent to the ICC rather than the debate club that is the UN.

It may come down to having tank buster missiles that use DU and HE would be mounted by the hundreds on rooftops and networked to what would be the drone operators today.
Using composite radar is the equal of seeing a blurry object through a fly's eye and the multiple views allow for pinpoint 3D location and tracking that is reacted to in real time by the fly's directional controls, 1 shot 1 kill.

I doubt there is even any radar to be turned on these days as what science calls 'background radiation' could be passively listen to and you just look for 'holes' that show up as momentary blips in what is basically a mathematical equation (fractal math does not have abnormalities, something moving would leave a streak that a blind person could see)
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Iraq had them in 2003. Didnt and couldnt do shit. onnce you switch on your radar you are a target for HAARM missiles
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Iraq never had S-300.
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Unless its Anti tank Missiles and Machine guns or Subs. Russian stuff is crap. All Crap
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Trust me I saw hundreds of burnt out BMP's and T-72's in 2003. Its all crap. Turkey Shoot.
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Something like this, maybe?
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Not sure, you would be able to distinguish T-72 from, say, T-62, but, nonetheless, majority of Iraqi tanks were not T-72's, but T-54/55's, T-62's and various chinese clones. T-72's were mostly polish-built (and even locally built) So, you seen mostly obsolete T-55's. And you should to try to fight them with 90mm's Pattons instead of "missiles" to draw any meaningful conclusions. :)
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Israel has warned the U.S. that a Russian deal is imminent to sell advanced ground-to-air missile systems to Syria, weapons that would significantly boost the regime's ability to stave off intervention in its civil war.

U.S. officials said on Wednesday that they are analyzing the information Israel provided about the suspected sale of S-300 missile batteries to Syria, but wouldn't comment on whether they believed such a transfer was near.

Russian officials didn't immediately return requests to comment. The Russian Embassy in Washington has said its policy is not to comment on arms sales or transfers between Russia and other countries.

The government of President Bashar al-Assad has been seeking to purchase S-300 missile batteries—which can intercept both manned aircraft and guided missiles—from Moscow going back to the George W. Bush administration, U.S. officials said. Western nations have lobbied President Vladimir Putin's government not to go ahead with the sale. If Syria were to acquire and deploy the systems, it would make any international intervention in Syria far more complicated, according to U.S. and Middle East-based officials.

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Let the fuckers find it difficult to fuck countries and blame others. Great for Putin. My hero. dance
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Lol Putin was on the phone with Assad making the deal as Kerry waited in his lobby for 3 hours for his meeting with Putin! Classic
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His sense of importance is correct.

His friends go first. The opposition that cheats to destroy his advances has to wait.
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Trust me I saw hundreds of burnt out BMP's and T-72's in 2003. Its all crap. Turkey Shoot.
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That is what happens when planes take on ground artillery.

The S-300 system already being operational is the reason Turkey doesn't fly, the weapon downed it on about the 4th shot of a 20MM Gatling gun (the same system has a few short range missiles that are also attached. I doubt many drones fly either.


Who supplied Saddam in the Iran war, the US and their 'big oil' buddies. Those munitions did not evaporate in the few years between the end of the Iran war and the Kuwait slant drilling war began.

The US carrier also left the area when the counter measure to the Patriot Batteries being installed after a Rebel attack of a Syrian refugee cap in Turkey that was blamed on the Syrian Gov even though one mortar didn't explode properly and it was identified as a NATO round give to the Rebels by the Turkish Military. A bonus was the hypersonic anti-ship cruise that is meant for carriers and is also unbeatable by any system the US or Israel has. The subs in Syria at the moment would be sweeping the port of listening devices and could by all of Lebanon at the same time. I doubt any of that is to help the Rebels bring in more supplies while remaining undetected.

This article should help you understand why I'm a 'little off' in my theme about who armed Iraq.

(in part)
High-level U.S. intelligence sources now say the Reagan Administration adopted Eagleton's recommendation to arm Saddam through third countries, but ignored his warning to stay within the limits of the law. Instead administration officials chose to proceed without lifting or changing the terms of the embargo against Iraq, and despite the fact that some of the transactions appear on their face to have violated the Arms Export Control Act. Further, the new secret policy directly contradicted what the administration was publicly telling Congress and the American people.
[link to www.miaminewtimes.com]

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Putin for President! Kick Benny Yeti Yahoo right in the nuts, round up the zionists and banksters and send them to the promised land baby! Yahweh told me to say this!

WOO HOO!
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Putin is wanted all over the world. My hero. I want him for President here, too.
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Lol Putin was on the phone with Assad making the deal as Kerry waited in his lobby for 3 hours for his meeting with Putin! Classic
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You dont think by now, that every other leader in the world doest know just how weak the leadership in America is? Trust me when i tell you that is one thing obama promised that he definitely delivered on.

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Putin for President! Kick Benny Yeti Yahoo right in the nuts, round up the zionists and banksters and send them to the promised land baby! Yahweh told me to say this!

WOO HOO!
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Putin is wanted all over the world. My hero. I want him for President here, too.
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OMG! That had me choking while i laughed.
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Unless its Anti tank Missiles and Machine guns or Subs. Russian stuff is crap. All Crap
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crap is what you had in your undies all the time from the 50's to the 90's.


Since I don't believe you'll be smart enought to catch the reference: cold war (not implying you were young, but scared shitless of all their crap)
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Putin for President! Kick Benny Yeti Yahoo right in the nuts, round up the zionists and banksters and send them to the promised land baby! Yahweh told me to say this!

WOO HOO!
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Putin is well liked all over the world. My hero. I want him for President here, too.
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OMG! That had me choking while i laughed.
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Putin is liked all over the world. Nobody tells so much truth in this scumbag Zionist led world.

dance
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Unless its Anti tank Missiles and Machine guns or Subs. Russian stuff is crap. All Crap
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crap is what you had in your undies all the time from the 50's to the 90's.


Since I don't believe you'll be smart enought to catch the reference: cold war (not implying you were young, but scared shitless of all their crap)
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Lol Putin was on the phone with Assad making the deal as Kerry waited in his lobby for 3 hours for his meeting with Putin! Classic
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5a
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perhaps the things don't happen so in the real life. Perhaps S300 is already in Syria if the newspapers write about it at all. As the Iskanders, as the Yakhonts. Both missiles that could strike Israel and are nuclear capable, were announced post factum. As well as the weapons from the other side. Israel never acknowledged it had nukes. How many? Hundreds or more? Let face the reality of a world that does not behave according to the treaties, or never sign them as Israel
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Lol Putin was on the phone with Assad making the deal as Kerry waited in his lobby for 3 hours for his meeting with Putin! Classic
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5a
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perhaps the things don't happen so in the real life. Perhaps S300 is already in Syria if the newspapers write about it at all. As the Iskanders, as the Yakhonts. Both missiles that could strike Israel and are nuclear capable, were announced post factum. As well as the weapons from the other side. Israel never acknowledged it had nukes. How many? Hundreds or more? Let face the reality of a world that does not behave according to the treaties, or never sign them as Israel
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total B.S.
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Lol Putin was on the phone with Assad making the deal as Kerry waited in his lobby for 3 hours for his meeting with Putin! Classic
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His sense of importance is correct.

His friends go first. The opposition that cheats to destroy his advances has to wait.

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Moreover, Putin visited Israel last (2012) summer and they (Putin and Netanyahu) agreed on "something", obviously, just after this visit Assad took his troops from Golan heights to deal with more important issues. But, it seems, Bibi deceived Putin when Israel bombed something in Syria under the dubious pretext in January. And repeated this again several days ago, right on Orthodox Easter. So let Israelis only themselves to blame...
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Iraq had them in 2003. Didnt and couldnt do shit. onnce you switch on your radar you are a target for HAARM missiles
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Iraq was supplied by the US, including the chems to make bio agents with. That is why the US hijacked that list of 'goodies' before the UN even got it, the party that requested it.

Syria put their faith it jets while not practicing with said machines. Today it is air defense only and unlike the ancient software these launch platforms are able to be controlled by a number of remote systems and with the newer propellents the speed is a mach or 2 faster than before so try and hit those speedy little fuckers while being 'stealthy'. The report that they were guided bombs dropped by the IDF from Lebanon is bullshit, they were a deception, it was an Arrow 3 missile launch from Israeli soil. Can you imagine the headlines with and Israeli jet crashing in Lebanon carrying the bomb that went off in Damascus. I would think the UN would have to give Lebanon the right to install some 'defensive' hardware to make sure shit like that doesn't happen again.

Nor is the distance to Damascus any longer from northern Israel as they could fly over the Golan Heights and it would never be reported. That would still but the craft at risk from the S-series so it is not something that could be done for an extended series of bombing. With missile being the booster you save a plane and small munitions might still get to targets. )not without location being identified and the data sent to the ICC rather than the debate club that is the UN.

It may come down to having tank buster missiles that use DU and HE would be mounted by the hundreds on rooftops and networked to what would be the drone operators today.
Using composite radar is the equal of seeing a blurry object through a fly's eye and the multiple views allow for pinpoint 3D location and tracking that is reacted to in real time by the fly's directional controls, 1 shot 1 kill.

I doubt there is even any radar to be turned on these days as what science calls 'background radiation' could be passively listen to and you just look for 'holes' that show up as momentary blips in what is basically a mathematical equation (fractal math does not have abnormalities, something moving would leave a streak that a blind person could see)
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are you slightly retarded? arrow 3 is a strictly defensive ABM system that's not even ready to be fielded quite yet due to israel not having unlimited oil funds of russia or ksa.

if this is your extremely awkward way of saying israel used IRBM or ICBM, then just say so instead of hinting at arrow 3 and looking like an idiot in the process, k?

and even if israel used missiles, it would have involved quite a few of them, and they should have shown up on the much-hyped russian radars if not intercepted them outright [because that's what new buk, tor, pantsyr are supposed to be able to do at the very least]

you see, even the old soviet stuff in syrian SAM arsenal received upgrades, including modern radar. plus of course in recent years, syria took shipments of modern systems like buks and pantsyrs.

and before some fan boy tard chimes in about how rebels destroyed all of assad's arial defenses, actually when it comes to damascus even after 2 years of civil war, it has one of the most formidable air defense in the world.

[link to ipic.su]

it's a fact, just to give you a little taste of what israel would have to deal with if it ever wanted to fly anywhere near damascus, let alone buzz assad's palace as it did in 2006, at least twice in 2013 not counting the actual 3 raids on hezbollah weapons this year


translation: if indeed IAF pulled this off, even if stand-off bombs were used from lebannon, it was a remakably risky, ballsy mission. assad's radars are able to cover all of lebanon and all of northern israel; any cruise mmissile or JDAM would have been easy prey for the hyped russian gear in question. theoretically, anyway.

in practice? israel p8ned all that fancy assad gear, hard.
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Lol Putin was on the phone with Assad making the deal as Kerry waited in his lobby for 3 hours for his meeting with Putin! Classic
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His sense of importance is correct.

His friends go first. The opposition that cheats to destroy his advances has to wait.

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Moreover, Putin visited Israel last (2012) summer and they (Putin and Netanyahu) agreed on "something", obviously, just after this visit Assad took his troops from Golan heights to deal with more important issues. But, it seems, Bibi deceived Putin when Israel bombed something in Syria under the dubious pretext in January. And repeated this again several days ago, right on Orthodox Easter. So let Israelis only themselves to blame...
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Putin has sold Assad. What S-300?
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Lol Putin was on the phone with Assad making the deal as Kerry waited in his lobby for 3 hours for his meeting with Putin! Classic
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1313288


His sense of importance is correct.

His friends go first. The opposition that cheats to destroy his advances has to wait.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 39458724


Moreover, Putin visited Israel last (2012) summer and they (Putin and Netanyahu) agreed on "something", obviously, just after this visit Assad took his troops from Golan heights to deal with more important issues. But, it seems, Bibi deceived Putin when Israel bombed something in Syria under the dubious pretext in January. And repeated this again several days ago, right on Orthodox Easter. So let Israelis only themselves to blame...
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Putin has sold Assad. What S-300?
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Really?
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His sense of importance is correct.

His friends go first. The opposition that cheats to destroy his advances has to wait.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 39458724


Moreover, Putin visited Israel last (2012) summer and they (Putin and Netanyahu) agreed on "something", obviously, just after this visit Assad took his troops from Golan heights to deal with more important issues. But, it seems, Bibi deceived Putin when Israel bombed something in Syria under the dubious pretext in January. And repeated this again several days ago, right on Orthodox Easter. So let Israelis only themselves to blame...
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Putin has sold Assad. What S-300?
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Really?
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100%
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Moreover, Putin visited Israel last (2012) summer and they (Putin and Netanyahu) agreed on "something", obviously, just after this visit Assad took his troops from Golan heights to deal with more important issues. But, it seems, Bibi deceived Putin when Israel bombed something in Syria under the dubious pretext in January. And repeated this again several days ago, right on Orthodox Easter. So let Israelis only themselves to blame...
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Putin has sold Assad. What S-300?
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Really?
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100%
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LOL,in other words, you're not going to justify your claim?
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Lol Putin was on the phone with Assad making the deal as Kerry waited in his lobby for 3 hours for his meeting with Putin! Classic
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1313288


His sense of importance is correct.

His friends go first. The opposition that cheats to destroy his advances has to wait.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 39458724


Moreover, Putin visited Israel last (2012) summer and they (Putin and Netanyahu) agreed on "something", obviously, just after this visit Assad took his troops from Golan heights to deal with more important issues. But, it seems, Bibi deceived Putin when Israel bombed something in Syria under the dubious pretext in January. And repeated this again several days ago, right on Orthodox Easter. So let Israelis only themselves to blame...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 38005012


israel and putin probably agreed on *someything* alright. you see, for all the conspiracy nonsense about zionist and zionist that that is so popular among the unwashed masses in your country,,,, putin is a pragmatic and he knows that russia and israel could be excellent allies, regardless of the US.

but where you knee-jerk blame Israel for everything, in this case claiming netanyahu "betrayed" putin's trust,,,,, the reality of the region points out to another kind of a betrayal: namely iran breaking their promise to Putin and transferring new Buk, upgraded fateh-110 and other major weapons to hezbollah from assad's storage. assad may not have even been aware of it, but israel apparently was and acted on it.

putin knows that hezbollah is israel's red line and that's why he sent deputy foreign minister bogdanov to beirut recently ostensibly for a friendly, ties-affirming visit,,,, but i think it was more to ensure that iran-hezbollah axis don't do anything stupid vis-a-vis Israel that would lead to Nato intervention and fall of assad.


that is much more plausible than israel just out of the blue deciding to take repeated incursions into damascus, risking putin's ire and also possibly losing multiple planes if the operation went even slightly imperfect, all seemingly for negligible benefit.

sorry, i think you're looking in the wrong direction. while iran should be grateful to russia for all its help over the years, truth of the matter is: iranian ayatollahs have apocalyptic vision, and they probably consider Putin to be an infidel on par with those in US and Israel. therefore, even if iran promises russia to behave, not make nukes and not provoke israel, under the table iranians keep doing everything they want regardless if it may run counter to russia's interests or wishes. that's how twelver islamists operate, bro.