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Russia Preparing To Transfer Advanced Air Defense System--s300--To Syria

 
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The WMD's are not important. If they were America would not be arming Al Qaeda and letting them get anywhere near them lest some turn up missing.

I thought Al Qaeda lew up the World trade Center and were being hunted,oh well.

The objective is to kick Russia out of the Ports drive their nuclear subs out of the region and continue to strangle Russia and China with encirclement.

Encirlced Like A Ring:Syria,Iraq,Afghanistan(Eventually Iran),(Eventually North Korea).

Its not even about Assad really either.

Once encircled the process of destabilization of China and Russia can begin to keep them far far away from trading with Africa in any way whatsoever.


Every conflict in the "Middle East" is about keeping control of Africa's resources for Europe and destroying any chance China and Russia have of direct trade relations with Black Africa.

The other goal is to destabilize Africa enough that they beg for Africom which is currently in Stuttgart Germany to be moved to Africa to "Save" them from Al-Qaeda effectively recolonizing Africa so China and Russia are even further blocked from Trading directly with Black Africa.

Qaddafi was killed for fighting the Africom plans and letting Black Africa know What NATO had planned.

Qaddafi also was determined to have an independent Africa so he opened some of his oil field for direct trade with China.

Europe and America refuse to let go of the Master Slave relationship the have enjoyed for 500 years over Africa and they are working together once again with their Saudi Muslim partners as they did during the trans Atlantic slave trade to destabilize Africa and control it through Jihad and colonization.
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Israel has warned the U.S. that a Russian deal is imminent to sell advanced ground-to-air missile systems to Syria, weapons that would significantly boost the regime's ability to stave off intervention in its civil war.

U.S. officials said on Wednesday that they are analyzing the information Israel provided about the suspected sale of S-300 missile batteries to Syria, but wouldn't comment on whether they believed such a transfer was near.

Russian officials didn't immediately return requests to comment. The Russian Embassy in Washington has said its policy is not to comment on arms sales or transfers between Russia and other countries.

The government of President Bashar al-Assad has been seeking to purchase S-300 missile batteries—which can intercept both manned aircraft and guided missiles—from Moscow going back to the George W. Bush administration, U.S. officials said. Western nations have lobbied President Vladimir Putin's government not to go ahead with the sale. If Syria were to acquire and deploy the systems, it would make any international intervention in Syria far more complicated, according to U.S. and Middle East-based officials.

[link to online.wsj.com]
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I thought syria had them according to wikipedia isnt the SA10 -THE S300??
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The WMD's are not important. If they were America would not be arming Al Qaeda and letting them get anywhere near them lest some turn up missing.

I thought Al Qaeda lew up the World trade Center and were being hunted,oh well.

The objective is to kick Russia out of the Ports drive their nuclear subs out of the region and continue to strangle Russia and China with encirclement.

Encirlced Like A Ring:Syria,Iraq,Afghanistan(Eventually Iran),(Eventually North Korea).

Its not even about Assad really either.

Once encircled the process of destabilization of China and Russia can begin to keep them far far away from trading with Africa in any way whatsoever.


Every conflict in the "Middle East" is about keeping control of Africa's resources for Europe and destroying any chance China and Russia have of direct trade relations with Black Africa.

The other goal is to destabilize Africa enough that they beg for Africom which is currently in Stuttgart Germany to be moved to Africa to "Save" them from Al-Qaeda effectively recolonizing Africa so China and Russia are even further blocked from Trading directly with Black Africa.

Qaddafi was killed for fighting the Africom plans and letting Black Africa know What NATO had planned.

Qaddafi also was determined to have an independent Africa so he opened some of his oil field for direct trade with China.

Europe and America refuse to let go of the Master Slave relationship the have enjoyed for 500 years over Africa and they are working together once again with their Saudi Muslim partners as they did during the trans Atlantic slave trade to destabilize Africa and control it through Jihad and colonization.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20479168


:^this:

The Jihadists are a combination of co conspirators who are

agents of NATO and useful Muslim idiots who are true

believers.

During the Slave trade it was the same but instead of NATO

it was the Dutch West India Company,Skull & Bones and

various European governments and Secret orders working with

Jihadists who started wars sold captives to their European

partners inspiring revenge attacks spinning out of control

everywhere until the Slave trade of captives became the

biggest business in Africa.
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so in the last 24 hours, special chemical plants needed for nuke program accidentally went up in flames in west teheran and in isfahan?

if that's what will take to bring greater peace to the region, so be it :)
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you're welcome. too bad you you conceded on all substantive and argumentative points so quickly, this was too easy, haha

see, as for M.A.D. briefly decribed above, fortunately putin is not as stupid and rage-filled as your average Krocodyl-shooting potzreot fanboi like you. all the arab-appeasing public posturing aside, putin knows he has common values and interests he shares with israel and the rest of the West.

putin knows that if his actions indirectly kick off WW-3 because muslims simply can't restrain themselves when it comes to "zionist entitah!",,,,, putin probably realizes that russia will be destroyed in the process along with everyone else. what's fair is fair, afterall.

so instead, putin prefers everone to be on as good relations as possible, so that he can continue to bang alina not to mention bilk his own depressed people out of 40 billion dollars in off-shore accounts. life is good if you're putin, so why jeopardize it all by messing with Israel that is literally 1000's of miles away?

i suggest you get with the 'world peace' program, too.

ciao!
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M.A.D. could be played only by equals. Bedbug can't blackmail far more advanced and powerful mastodon with his tiny dick, he would be crushed. Putin knows this well and Bibi knows that too. The only country you may try to engage in M.A.D. is Iran, so go ahead. And better hope not to repeat Saddam's fate, he was been "assured" he may take Kuwait with no cost as well. Times changing, dude. And changing fast. If you unable to see that I can't help, but it is possible, we may have to save your jewish asses again. Don't spit in the well and think about that.

"...own depressed people..."
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The WMD's are not important. If they were America would not be arming Al Qaeda and letting them get anywhere near them lest some turn up missing.

I thought Al Qaeda lew up the World trade Center and were being hunted,oh well.

The objective is to kick Russia out of the Ports drive their nuclear subs out of the region and continue to strangle Russia and China with encirclement.

Encirlced Like A Ring:Syria,Iraq,Afghanistan(Eventually Iran),(Eventually North Korea).

Its not even about Assad really either.

Once encircled the process of destabilization of China and Russia can begin to keep them far far away from trading with Africa in any way whatsoever.


Every conflict in the "Middle East" is about keeping control of Africa's resources for Europe and destroying any chance China and Russia have of direct trade relations with Black Africa.

The other goal is to destabilize Africa enough that they beg for Africom which is currently in Stuttgart Germany to be moved to Africa to "Save" them from Al-Qaeda effectively recolonizing Africa so China and Russia are even further blocked from Trading directly with Black Africa.

Qaddafi was killed for fighting the Africom plans and letting Black Africa know What NATO had planned.

Qaddafi also was determined to have an independent Africa so he opened some of his oil field for direct trade with China.

Europe and America refuse to let go of the Master Slave relationship the have enjoyed for 500 years over Africa and they are working together once again with their Saudi Muslim partners as they did during the trans Atlantic slave trade to destabilize Africa and control it through Jihad and colonization.
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I love how all discussion of Africa's vital importance because of it resources draws tip toes and hush hush. Ha ha ha!

The open secret.
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FSA on the air, anyone speak Arabic?

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Its not even about Assad really either.
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He is still in office until 2015 (??) because of the elections and such that took place last year or the year before (2014). One of the measures voted on what term limits for the position Assad has.
There was also to be a limit of 2 terms or 14 years for any 1 person and that position cannot become a family heirloom. That is the first thing that would be rendered by the 'US sponsored Rebels as 'their man' would have a lifelong post and it would be a family heirloom if the kids were suitable to the US. That would allow the people to keep somebody they like in power for as long as possible. Putin is one such example, JFK would have also been perfect for that position based on his political views rather than the 'after-hours parties that befit retired bootleggers. lol, not perfect but not illegal either.
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you're welcome. too bad you you conceded on all substantive and argumentative points so quickly, this was too easy, haha

see, as for M.A.D. briefly decribed above, fortunately putin is not as stupid and rage-filled as your average Krocodyl-shooting potzreot fanboi like you. all the arab-appeasing public posturing aside, putin knows he has common values and interests he shares with israel and the rest of the West.

putin knows that if his actions indirectly kick off WW-3 because muslims simply can't restrain themselves when it comes to "zionist entitah!",,,,, putin probably realizes that russia will be destroyed in the process along with everyone else. what's fair is fair, afterall.

so instead, putin prefers everone to be on as good relations as possible, so that he can continue to bang alina not to mention bilk his own depressed people out of 40 billion dollars in off-shore accounts. life is good if you're putin, so why jeopardize it all by messing with Israel that is literally 1000's of miles away?

i suggest you get with the 'world peace' program, too.

ciao!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23855023


M.A.D. could be played only by equals. Bedbug can't blackmail far more advanced and powerful mastodon with his tiny dick, he would be crushed. Putin knows this well and Bibi knows that too. The only country you may try to engage in M.A.D. is Iran, so go ahead. And better hope not to repeat Saddam's fate, he was been "assured" he may take Kuwait with no cost as well. Times changing, dude. And changing fast. If you unable to see that I can't help, but it is possible, we may have to save your jewish asses again. Don't spit in the well and think about that.

"...own depressed people..."
putin


byekitty
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read better, dummy. since region will be presumably aflame with israel not likely to survive, russia will be taken down, too.

comparing saddam to israel's "alleged" capabilities including those "alleged" both on site and off-site based triad [all those leased islands, south sudan, azerbajan et cetera] that provides for robust 2nd strike and even 3 strike capacity,,,,, only shows your mindboggling ignorance of the issues.

emotional potzreots like you revel in ignorance and delusion, naturally, but this is just to let you how silly you sound.

you think Pu' is going to jeopardize his easy life and billions of undeclared wealth for hassan nasrallah and ahmadinejad????

lmao!
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oops

[link to www.israeldefense.com]
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From your link, "can also be used to produce fuel for surface-to-surface missiles".

Is that different fuel than missiles that are used for air defense or launching satellites?

Does anybody still make an offensive missile where the whole lifting body is part of the payload that makes it to the target?

If that a bigger or smaller explosion than the US had a a chem plant just recently?
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There's not gonna be any full blown war in the Middle East.

The only ones that want war is the US/Europe.

The region is doing everything to avoid this.

What you're being fed is psy-ops.

Israel already alligned themselves with Iran,Syria,Russia and China.

BRICS is the future ,not US/Europe.

Good news for the Palestinians is, that if Israel wants in ,they'll have to make huge compromises.

Israel will make these compromises in order to brake the chains of slavery that connect them to Rothschild.

By the time Rothschild controlled US/Europe public find out what's really going on ,they'll be under Martial Law.

The NATO/Al-Qaida/Rothschild Rebels are gonna get their asses whipped in Syria.

Israel ,Russia,Iran and China are masters in deception

The old cultures will beat the barbarians from Europe.
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BRICS is the future ,not US/Europe.


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Says who?

Don't believe everything you read, cowardly hipster.
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BRICS is the future ,not US/Europe.


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Says who?

Don't believe everything you read, cowardly hipster.
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You only say that because you heard allegedly smart panicky people slobber over the losers in BRIC.

When in fact, china, india, brazil and certainl south africa would be in a total shithole economically, technologically and othwise if not for the good graces of the ever tolerant US and West Europe, our system, our values, our wealth, magnanimity and tech transfers.

In fact russia and china, got most of it from theft and mafia intimination and they still badly lack the west in quite a few areas.

while the dynamism, gas and sillicon valley revoluton, the free trade agreements with europe, will keep the us in the lead role in many ears.

china slows down to even % 5 and commies will be overthrown by the irate people. russia has nothing but gas and oil, and even that is becoming less relevant. brazil's growth has already slowed to snail's pace, india is underperforming by 3rd world standards.

and south africa post=white rule is a shithole of all shithole
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this isn't necessarily good news for russia or syria.

the s-300 system syria will be getting will be older, 'export' version that countries like cyprus have. still formidable but by no means a 'game changer', especially considering that syria will have only a few of those, which does not integrated arial-defense make.

russia also is going to be perceived majority of the world as getting even deeper involved in assad's slaughter. it's one thing for hezbollah to risk being named a terrorist organization by EU it's a risk they are willing to take apparently, but russia still has bad rep going back to soviet union days, and ahead of 2014 winter olympics and 2018 soccer world cup, the last thing they need is to be perceived as a mini reincarnation of the 'evil empire'

syria has one of the best air-defenses in the world because of soviets and russians. but israel and nato have already demonstrated ability to fairly easily bypass very sophisticated russian AD systems like Pantsyr, new Buk and Tor.

the older S-300 version is much more long-range, but it is still at risk for being humiliaated by Israel, thus costing russians billions in lost AD reputation. russian can try to explain to prospective buyers that syria's s-300 wasn't really indicative of the system's true abilities in fully integrated arial-defense under russian command, but that's not gonna sound so credible anymore.

not to mention, russia is already losing billions of dollars by all the debt forgiveness going back to the days of soviet union, and no essentially giving syria free stuff including very expensive s-300.

and all for what? assad will still fall or be assassinated by his inner circle when syria's death toll will exceed the quite symbolic 100,000. it's over 80,000 now and gettnig worse in last 6 months. sunni muslims and the rest of the world are getting more and more pissed, so russian caucuses incluindg chechnya, dagestan, north ossetia will ignite.

russia olympics set to take place only 7 months from now are risk for being boycotted ala 1980.

what's worse, s-300 will have the opposite effect: it will make western and sunni arab intervention more likely because at some point assad will do something stupid as "accidentally" shooting a couple of turkish airplanes or worse, downing israeli passnger airliner. at that point russia will get the blame and will not be able to save assad short of starting ww3.

now thanks to putin that no-fly zone has become riskier, even though most people in the west were against their governments getting involved in no-fly zone, the west has official pretext to start providing sophisticaed manpads, atgm and intelligence to the rebels. which of course will end up in al-qaeda's hands.

it's gonna be lose-lose for everybody russia first and foremost.
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but the cia shill said Israel was using artillery not planes. so which is it?
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whatever that was, it was deleted.

it was confirmed israel used planes so whomever said otherwise is misinformed or blatantly lying.
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but the cia shill said Israel was using artillery not planes. so which is it?
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whatever that was, it was deleted.

it was confirmed israel used planes so whomever said otherwise is misinformed or blatantly lying.
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even without s-300, Damascus has one of the best air-defenses in the world.

if it was ever proven it was israel, the fact that their air-force can routinely waltz in and out assad's palace as they are alleged to have done at least 5 times since 2006

is not a good news for hezbollah when 3rd and Final lebanon war will commence either in 2013 or early 2014.

in 2006 hezbnllah managed to survive due to left-wing israeli governement, indecisive leadeership, international pressure and the degraded state of israel's conventional army (after years of having to deal mostly with palestinian suicide terrorism, many war drills were cancelled, conventional arms budgets slashes and so forth)

in 2013, israel will absolutely rake as operation Pillar of Defense showed in a small preview

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another thing about syria is that they reported 70,000 casualties like back in january or early february.

And then kept repeating that 70,000 figure last 4 months even tough at least 1,000 people were dying a week.

then suddenly in recent days NGO's are reporting 80, 85, even saw 93,000 deaths

100,000 is key. once you hit that figure, then it's another Iraq; whether 100,000 or 125,000 were killed in Iraq, it's seen as a big failure.