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I need no secrets to take these assholes down

Truth will take them down when the time comes

Until then they can kiss my assbutt
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Not so secret, the Catholic Church is its biggest enemy.
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You are so confused
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The spiritual war between the Church and the freemasons has been going on for a very long time, we are seeing its end days currently, believe it or not.

The illuminati are nothing more than the inner circle of the masons.
 Quoting: K.Kool


I disagree

Our Founding Fathers didnt trust or like the Catholic Church .....George Washington was a Master Mason .....

Through the years the Masons were infiltrated by the Illumanati(synagogue of Satan) and the Catholics(antiChrist beast system)

The illumanti and the Vatican are in league and have been for a very long time ....

George Washington would not be a member of today's masons ....

That's how satan works ......he can't create ....just pervert the creation

The Catholic Church started out as a true church.....Paul wrote to this church in the Bible ....but as time progressed the antichrist spirit seeped into the church just like the apostles said in would and they started turning back to their pagan religions that the had before Christianity arrived .... It's so easy to see this ....please just do a little research on paganism in the Catholic Church

Same with the masons .....they used to be good but the illuminati and catholics started joining them and they overtook them in time


Same with the school system ..... Progressives slowly but surely started taking over in the early 20 century and it became worse thru the years until we are a humanistic socialistic country today

This is how Satan perverts good things and takes control of them

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I need no secrets to take these assholes down

Truth will take them down when the time comes

Until then they can kiss my assbutt
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Also when the time comes anyone who associates them selves with this society & not mine will be strung up in front of every1 because of what they have done. Justice will be swift for this society & they will have what they have coming to them.

I will make sure the angels take care of these beings
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No, they have factions that play each other, that is why as the Masons they love the chequerboard ground, one playing against the other.
That is why they have the Illuminati game, they like to play and see which opponent wins, but they are all friends and still share the same bed. They love to compete with each other... you, the populace are the pawns, the tools of the game!...

... That is the truth, you can see their games if your eyes are open!
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No, it's more than a society. It's something more than you can imagine. If Morpheus is an "illuminati" then Agent Smith is truly his nemesis. Watch for the weak willed and the weak minded. They make the best hosts.
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Not so secret, the Catholic Church is its biggest enemy.
 Quoting: K.Kool


You are so confused
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The spiritual war between the Church and the freemasons has been going on for a very long time, we are seeing its end days currently, believe it or not.

The illuminati are nothing more than the inner circle of the masons.
 Quoting: K.Kool


I disagree

Our Founding Fathers didnt trust or like the Catholic Church .....George Washington was a Master Mason .....

Through the years the Masons were infiltrated by the Illumanati(synagogue of Satan) and the Catholics(antiChrist beast system)

The illumanti and the Vatican are in league and have been for a very long time ....

George Washington would not be a member of today's masons ....

That's how satan works ......he can't create ....just pervert the creation

The Catholic Church started out as a true church.....Paul wrote to this church in the Bible ....but as time progressed the antichrist spirit seeped into the church just like the apostles said in would and they started turning back to their pagan religions that the had before Christianity arrived .... It's so easy to see this ....please just do a little research on paganism in the Catholic Church

Same with the masons .....they used to be good but the illuminati and catholics started joining them and they overtook them in time


Same with the school system ..... Progressives slowly but surely started taking over in the early 20 century and it became worse thru the years until we are a humanistic socialistic country today

This is how Satan perverts good things and takes control of them
 Quoting: Simple_Man


This is a very interesting mixture of half-truths & full disinformation. Two half truths here are almost making a full truth.

One of the most confusing things that I encountered when beginning this search was why the seemingly pure & righteous founding fathers of the once noble U.S. were obviously & not so obviously entwined with the Freemasons?

I have explained this in an earlier post.

Illuminism hasn’t courted popularity. On the contrary, it has sought only a rare and special type of human being. With such people, it has succeeded in becoming what it is – the highest expression of human civilization and rationality.
However, if we wish to have an actual impact on society, our modus operandi is the worst possible. The Gnostic religion of Catharism – constructed by Illuminists – was the last attempt to have a public version of Illuminism. It was, of course, annihilated by Catholicism, which saw how dangerous it was to the future of the Catholic Church. Since then, Illuminism has proceeded in great secrecy via Alchemists, Templars, Freemasons (the original good kind), Jesuits (an attempt, like the Templars, to take over Catholicism from within) and various other secret associations.
Illuminism could continue this way forever, offering a “smaller vehicle” (i.e. an escape route for a select few), or it can try to establish a “greater vehicle”. Leibniz was keen to embrace the Christian masses, which is why he attempted a Christian Monadology, but, being an optimist, he overlooked how spectacularly dumb the average Christian is. There was never any realistic prospect that Christians would see the Monadic light.
Illuminism is again seeking to produce a public face of sorts. We wish to create a vehicle of Illuminism that makes the Illuminist message simple, manageable and popular.
Traditionally, the Illuminati would have assigned senior members to setting up any new enterprise (as they set up the original anti-establishment Freemasonry, for example). However, given this internet age of mass communication, it seems foolish not to avail ourselves of the creativity of the people – the sort of people who could conceivably become members of the Illuminati. There are many people throughout history who might have been Illuminists, but never got the chance because they simply didn’t come to the attention of the small number of Illuminist recruiters.
With the internet, we can reach out to such people and see what they’re capable of, see who has the “right stuff”. So, here’s your chance to impress, here’s your chance to build a new world. What is needed is the best religion of all (which does not mean the truest!) – the one which combines popularity, pleasure, rationality, Mythos, Logos and spirituality in one seductive package that will sweep all before it. That means it might have to invoke some of the silliness of Abrahamism or mysticism of the East. It’s the overall product that matters. It must be healthy and productive. It must establish a platform for a higher humanity.
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jesuit preist of the black mass
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You are so confused
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The spiritual war between the Church and the freemasons has been going on for a very long time, we are seeing its end days currently, believe it or not.

The illuminati are nothing more than the inner circle of the masons.
 Quoting: K.Kool


I disagree

Our Founding Fathers didnt trust or like the Catholic Church .....George Washington was a Master Mason .....

Through the years the Masons were infiltrated by the Illumanati(synagogue of Satan) and the Catholics(antiChrist beast system)

The illumanti and the Vatican are in league and have been for a very long time ....

George Washington would not be a member of today's masons ....

That's how satan works ......he can't create ....just pervert the creation

The Catholic Church started out as a true church.....Paul wrote to this church in the Bible ....but as time progressed the antichrist spirit seeped into the church just like the apostles said in would and they started turning back to their pagan religions that the had before Christianity arrived .... It's so easy to see this ....please just do a little research on paganism in the Catholic Church

Same with the masons .....they used to be good but the illuminati and catholics started joining them and they overtook them in time


Same with the school system ..... Progressives slowly but surely started taking over in the early 20 century and it became worse thru the years until we are a humanistic socialistic country today

This is how Satan perverts good things and takes control of them
 Quoting: Simple_Man


This is a very interesting mixture of half-truths & full disinformation. Two half truths here are almost making a full truth.

One of the most confusing things that I encountered when beginning this search was why the seemingly pure & righteous founding fathers of the once noble U.S. were obviously & not so obviously entwined with the Freemasons?

I have explained this in an earlier post.

Illuminism hasn’t courted popularity. On the contrary, it has sought only a rare and special type of human being. With such people, it has succeeded in becoming what it is – the highest expression of human civilization and rationality.
However, if we wish to have an actual impact on society, our modus operandi is the worst possible. The Gnostic religion of Catharism – constructed by Illuminists – was the last attempt to have a public version of Illuminism. It was, of course, annihilated by Catholicism, which saw how dangerous it was to the future of the Catholic Church. Since then, Illuminism has proceeded in great secrecy via Alchemists, Templars, Freemasons (the original good kind), Jesuits (an attempt, like the Templars, to take over Catholicism from within) and various other secret associations.
Illuminism could continue this way forever, offering a “smaller vehicle” (i.e. an escape route for a select few), or it can try to establish a “greater vehicle”. Leibniz was keen to embrace the Christian masses, which is why he attempted a Christian Monadology, but, being an optimist, he overlooked how spectacularly dumb the average Christian is. There was never any realistic prospect that Christians would see the Monadic light.
Illuminism is again seeking to produce a public face of sorts. We wish to create a vehicle of Illuminism that makes the Illuminist message simple, manageable and popular.
Traditionally, the Illuminati would have assigned senior members to setting up any new enterprise (as they set up the original anti-establishment Freemasonry, for example). However, given this internet age of mass communication, it seems foolish not to avail ourselves of the creativity of the people – the sort of people who could conceivably become members of the Illuminati. There are many people throughout history who might have been Illuminists, but never got the chance because they simply didn’t come to the attention of the small number of Illuminist recruiters.
With the internet, we can reach out to such people and see what they’re capable of, see who has the “right stuff”. So, here’s your chance to impress, here’s your chance to build a new world. What is needed is the best religion of all (which does not mean the truest!) – the one which combines popularity, pleasure, rationality, Mythos, Logos and spirituality in one seductive package that will sweep all before it. That means it might have to invoke some of the silliness of Abrahamism or mysticism of the East. It’s the overall product that matters. It must be healthy and productive. It must establish a platform for a higher humanity.
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I agree that the RCC of the dark ages weren't Illumanati and even halfway through the Middle Ages they weren't ......whether or not it was though the Jesuits that the New Age thinking (illuminati) in the RCC came about is completely possible and probable but as seeing that I wasn't there and i havent researched that particular thing ...i can't say for sure

the religion that you speak of that is to come is already taking form and has for some time now ....it will be fully implemented shortly

it won't be one singular religion , it can never be done ....no matter how bad you want it .......people will never give up their particular religion but they will be willing to work in unity with other religions.......it will be a "fellowship" of various religions around the world .... as far as Christianity is concerned the "fellowship" of the different sects of Christianity began long ago in the 40s or 50s I believe with the World Council of Churches .... This confederation of churches will in turn join the One World Religion ( the Fellowship of all Faiths and Religions) ...... All Christian churches that don't join will be shut down here in America by the Federal Government ..... They will label independent church's as fringe elements and as extremists and will close their doors

I want no part in your illuminati plans .... I am a stranger in this world .....a pilgrim passing through ..... This part of our consciousness is tempoary .....my reward awaits across the river

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S.M.U.R.F.

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Tell me where this is from and you win "eternal glory".
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There is a society that claims to fight against them, but it secretly funds and supports them. Just to keep conflict going.

They have double-agents though.
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Interesting. You would think that an all powerful organization that is malevolent to the human race would use whatever means necessary to prevent the truth from surfacing. Maybe the illuminati is against TPTB. In turn, TPTB use their unlimited control to vilify the benevolent organizations by condemning them and blaming them for their actions. Life is complex, who knows what the fuck is really going on.
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Interesting. You would think that an all powerful organization that is malevolent to the human race would use whatever means necessary to prevent the truth from surfacing. Maybe the illuminati is against TPTB. In turn, TPTB use their unlimited control to vilify the benevolent organizations by condemning them and blaming them for their actions. Life is complex, who knows what the fuck is really going on.
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BINGO!!!!!!

Give that man a cigar!!!

Think about it!? What better way to fight your enemies than to make THEM look like the disgusting, Satan worshiping, pedophile, (shape shifting lizards, LMFAO) bad guys?

At last, I've found a person who thinks outside the conspiracy theory box!!!
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Not so secret, the Catholic Church is its biggest enemy.
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Not according to Alice Bailey.
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Not so secret, the Catholic Church is its biggest enemy.
 Quoting: K.Kool


You are so confused
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The spiritual war between the Church and the freemasons has been going on for a very long time, we are seeing its end days currently, believe it or not.

The illuminati are nothing more than the inner circle of the masons.
 Quoting: K.Kool


I disagree

Our Founding Fathers didnt trust or like the Catholic Church .....George Washington was a Master Mason .....

Through the years the Masons were infiltrated by the Illumanati(synagogue of Satan) and the Catholics(antiChrist beast system)

The illumanti and the Vatican are in league and have been for a very long time ....

George Washington would not be a member of today's masons ....

That's how satan works ......he can't create ....just pervert the creation

The Catholic Church started out as a true church.....Paul wrote to this church in the Bible ....but as time progressed the antichrist spirit seeped into the church just like the apostles said in would and they started turning back to their pagan religions that the had before Christianity arrived .... It's so easy to see this ....please just do a little research on paganism in the Catholic Church

Same with the masons .....they used to be good but the illuminati and catholics started joining them and they overtook them in time


Same with the school system ..... Progressives slowly but surely started taking over in the early 20 century and it became worse thru the years until we are a humanistic socialistic country today

This is how Satan perverts good things and takes control of them
 Quoting: Simple_Man




Unfortunately a whole pile of bullshit has been said about the Catholic Church for many, many years, based on fiction quite often, and when properly researched, I can guarantee you it is easy to see the lies.

It is not surprising, given that the Church is the only thing standing in the way of satan, and a block to the plans to keep the world under slavery.

As the mason agent below says, it is an ideological war, and very much still raging via the internet, that is why it is very important to check 'both sides of the argument' before you spread their lies.

The present Pope is carrying on the fight against slavery, against the control of the world's finances by the illuminati, and they are starting to step up the campaign to discredit the Church, and by coming out in the open.
You can watch it all here, live on GLP!
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Interesting. You would think that an all powerful organization that is malevolent to the human race would use whatever means necessary to prevent the truth from surfacing. Maybe the illuminati is against TPTB. In turn, TPTB use their unlimited control to vilify the benevolent organizations by condemning them and blaming them for their actions. Life is complex, who knows what the fuck is really going on.
 Quoting: Chainsaw Burns


This I think is the closest to truth, outside fiction works no one has ever pointed the Illuminati as being real. An organization that is supposedly secret and yet lot's of people lay evil claims on it's work.

When was the first time anyone heard about them? The first time I heard about the Illuminati as an actual organizatio (an evil one also) was in the first Tomb Raider movie.
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Interesting. You would think that an all powerful organization that is malevolent to the human race would use whatever means necessary to prevent the truth from surfacing. Maybe the illuminati is against TPTB. In turn, TPTB use their unlimited control to vilify the benevolent organizations by condemning them and blaming them for their actions. Life is complex, who knows what the fuck is really going on.
 Quoting: Chainsaw Burns


This I think is the closest to truth, outside fiction works no one has ever pointed the Illuminati as being real. An organization that is supposedly secret and yet lot's of people lay evil claims on it's work.

When was the first time anyone heard about them? The first time I heard about the Illuminati as an actual organizatio (an evil one also) was in the first Tomb Raider movie.
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The first emergence was in the 16th century.

[link to www.newadvent.org]
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Interesting. You would think that an all powerful organization that is malevolent to the human race would use whatever means necessary to prevent the truth from surfacing. Maybe the illuminati is against TPTB. In turn, TPTB use their unlimited control to vilify the benevolent organizations by condemning them and blaming them for their actions. Life is complex, who knows what the fuck is really going on.
 Quoting: Chainsaw Burns


This I think is the closest to truth, outside fiction works no one has ever pointed the Illuminati as being real. An organization that is supposedly secret and yet lot's of people lay evil claims on it's work.

When was the first time anyone heard about them? The first time I heard about the Illuminati as an actual organizatio (an evil one also) was in the first Tomb Raider movie.
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The first emergence was in the 16th century.

[link to www.newadvent.org]
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Yes, strangely right around the same time Martin Luther exposed the Church and broke it's stranglehold on the Scriptures.

Amazing...
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One half wants to kill off all the "less than's" and the other half wants to enslave them. The two groups are going to butt heads about how to rule the world... Then Jesus shows up and kicks both their butts. The End.
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Interesting. You would think that an all powerful organization that is malevolent to the human race would use whatever means necessary to prevent the truth from surfacing. Maybe the illuminati is against TPTB. In turn, TPTB use their unlimited control to vilify the benevolent organizations by condemning them and blaming them for their actions. Life is complex, who knows what the fuck is really going on.
 Quoting: Chainsaw Burns


This I think is the closest to truth, outside fiction works no one has ever pointed the Illuminati as being real. An organization that is supposedly secret and yet lot's of people lay evil claims on it's work.

When was the first time anyone heard about them? The first time I heard about the Illuminati as an actual organizatio (an evil one also) was in the first Tomb Raider movie.
 Quoting: Montblanc



The first emergence was in the 16th century.

[link to www.newadvent.org]
 Quoting: K.Kool

Yes, strangely right around the same time Martin Luther exposed the Church and broke it's stranglehold on the Scriptures.

Amazing...
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You mean violated the Oneness of the Church.
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I need no secrets to take these assholes down

Truth will take them down when the time comes

Until then they can kiss my assbutt
 Quoting: TT STT. MICHAEL TT


Also when the time comes anyone who associates them selves with this society & not mine will be strung up in front of every1 because of what they have done. Justice will be swift for this society & they will have what they have coming to them.

I will make sure the angels take care of these beings
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Can you say "Delusions of grandeur"? cause that is what you should say you suffer from and need help for; that is , unless YOU are really a dispenser of justice. Sounding awfully pretentious, there, dontcha think? tomato
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Interesting. You would think that an all powerful organization that is malevolent to the human race would use whatever means necessary to prevent the truth from surfacing. Maybe the illuminati is against TPTB. In turn, TPTB use their unlimited control to vilify the benevolent organizations by condemning them and blaming them for their actions. Life is complex, who knows what the fuck is really going on.
 Quoting: Chainsaw Burns


This I think is the closest to truth, outside fiction works no one has ever pointed the Illuminati as being real. An organization that is supposedly secret and yet lot's of people lay evil claims on it's work.

When was the first time anyone heard about them? The first time I heard about the Illuminati as an actual organizatio (an evil one also) was in the first Tomb Raider movie.
 Quoting: Montblanc



The first emergence was in the 16th century.

[link to www.newadvent.org]
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I am aware of a period called illuminism, you study this in high school history classes, which is something that emerged in XVI-XVII century in Europe. Anyway what do we really know about them? What we do know is that there are the Bilderbergs, Council on Foreign Relations, 300 Comittee, Freemasonry and others.

Freemasons are usually pointed as the Illuminati, they have been known to plot against monarchy in Europe, which I think is not necessarily evil, though it wasn't exactly awesome for europeans either. I'll admit there are members of the Freemasonry who have used the society for personal gain because I know of some cases, all of which involve high ranking politicians from my country.

However this doesn't mean they are the bad guys, the reason why Freemasonry is a secret society, now divided into many branches, is the fact that when they emerged the Catholic Church would persecute them. I think we actually owe a lot to freemasons, just research how many things we came by through alchemy, literature, spiritual development. Many of this things were achieved by masons.

So the question is: do we know our enemy or are we being mislead, again, to an easy target?
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The Cock & Balls society is the only society that renders the illuminati impotent. They can't resist the Cock & Balls.
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This I think is the closest to truth, outside fiction works no one has ever pointed the Illuminati as being real. An organization that is supposedly secret and yet lot's of people lay evil claims on it's work.

When was the first time anyone heard about them? The first time I heard about the Illuminati as an actual organizatio (an evil one also) was in the first Tomb Raider movie.
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The first emergence was in the 16th century.

[link to www.newadvent.org]
 Quoting: K.Kool

Yes, strangely right around the same time Martin Luther exposed the Church and broke it's stranglehold on the Scriptures.

Amazing...
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You mean violated the Oneness of the Church.
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Oneness? Which part of oneness?

The "oneness" where it was illegal for anyone but certain members of the clergy to have access to the scriptures?

The "oneness" where the priests held mass in a foreign language"?

Or the "oneness" where the church bribed parishoners with their loved ones eternal destiny by extorting cash from them?

Which "oneness" EXACTLY are you speaking of?
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Re: Is there a secret society that is against the Illuminati?
actually there are quite a few
collectivly right now they are lnown as the resistant movement
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