Poll: People are Losing Confidence in the EU | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 38971256 United Kingdom 05/14/2013 09:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Survey is here: [link to www.pewglobal.org] Quoting: insertfunnyusername "The New Sick Man of Europe: the European Union" |
F F S User ID: 2043243 United Kingdom 05/14/2013 09:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just heard something that was rather interesting! Quoting: Upset and confused 1146695 Whilst I am fed up with the EU and would love the UK to leave,it seems things are not that simple... Our farmers have to sell their products at a very cheap price as they are subsidised by the EU! So the EU give our farmers loads of money to sell their stuff Cheap.. I know I said that twice, but I wanted you to understand it... If we were to leave the EU, then the farmers would no longer get that susidy. Which means that it would then have to sell its products at the correct price. Which means... FOOD PRICES WILL SKYROCKET!!!! Not good... What to do????? It's not always so that they keep prices down, a lot of the subsidies are to stop them growing too much and then forcing prices down on the wholesale market. Anyone remember the last time we(EU) had a butter mountain, a wine lake etc etc, they didn't just get used, we were growing a surplus that couldn't be contained. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 38971256 United Kingdom 05/14/2013 09:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Survey is here: [link to www.pewglobal.org] Quoting: insertfunnyusername "The New Sick Man of Europe: the European Union" and that "stereotyping" panel is so funny |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1260049 China 05/14/2013 09:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How could we have confidence in something that is forced upon us? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 39807126 The EU is/was never the people's choice...now we've lost our identity,democracy,and sovereignty. Wasn't that the big plan? both excellent points the uk - no, sorry, ENGLAND is leading the way jump in, fellow euro-proles! the water is fine! looking forward to the merkel vote and the uk euro elections the uk general election After you're done with Nigel Farage could we lend him from you? He is a hero to many, just what we need around here. |
insertfunnyusername User ID: 39813007 Greece 05/14/2013 09:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Survey is here: [link to www.pewglobal.org] Quoting: insertfunnyusername "The New Sick Man of Europe: the European Union" and that "stereotyping" panel is so funny It is, isn't it? Personally found it one of the most interesting ones. |
Hard Eight User ID: 35278639 United States 05/14/2013 09:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | France in 'Free Fall' as Fund Managers Short Bonds Quoting: Hard Eight France's poor fundamentals are not new: joblessness has soared and growth remains stunted under President Francois Hollande. However, new research shows the French public now have less faith in their economy and the European Union than the Spanish or the Italians. In a survey conducted by Pew Research Center, 91 percent of French residents said they are negative on their economy, up 10 percentage points from the previous year. More: [link to finance.yahoo.com] Texas has yet to learn submission to any oppression, come from what source it may. Sam Houston "The beauty of the Second Amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it." Thomas Jefferson If you don't read the newspaper you are uninformed, if you do read the newspaper you are misinformed. -- Mark Twain Giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and keys to teenage boys. -- P.J. O'Rourke, Civil Libertarian |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 39807126 Belgium 05/14/2013 09:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just heard something that was rather interesting! Quoting: Upset and confused 1146695 Whilst I am fed up with the EU and would love the UK to leave,it seems things are not that simple... Our farmers have to sell their products at a very cheap price as they are subsidised by the EU! So the EU give our farmers loads of money to sell their stuff Cheap.. I know I said that twice, but I wanted you to understand it... If we were to leave the EU, then the farmers would no longer get that susidy. Which means that it would then have to sell its products at the correct price. Which means... FOOD PRICES WILL SKYROCKET!!!! Not good... What to do????? Well that problem can be solved,by skipping the middle man and buy directly from the farmer...win-win situation. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 38971256 United Kingdom 05/14/2013 09:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How could we have confidence in something that is forced upon us? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 39807126 The EU is/was never the people's choice...now we've lost our identity,democracy,and sovereignty. Wasn't that the big plan? both excellent points the uk - no, sorry, ENGLAND is leading the way jump in, fellow euro-proles! the water is fine! looking forward to the merkel vote and the uk euro elections the uk general election After you're done with Nigel Farage could we lend him from you? He is a hero to many, just what we need around here. be our guest, but what happend to that wilders chap? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 38971256 United Kingdom 05/14/2013 09:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | France in 'Free Fall' as Fund Managers Short Bonds Quoting: Hard Eight France's poor fundamentals are not new: joblessness has soared and growth remains stunted under President Francois Hollande. However, new research shows the French public now have less faith in their economy and the European Union than the Spanish or the Italians. In a survey conducted by Pew Research Center, 91 percent of French residents said they are negative on their economy, up 10 percentage points from the previous year. More: [link to finance.yahoo.com] france is properly fooked and im not surprised the electorate aint happy. for a start, hollande won by the slightest of margins still, they made their bed |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 38971256 United Kingdom 05/14/2013 10:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Survey is here: [link to www.pewglobal.org] Quoting: insertfunnyusername "The New Sick Man of Europe: the European Union" and that "stereotyping" panel is so funny It is, isn't it? Personally found it one of the most interesting ones. thing that struck me was germany being the most trusted really, a lot of that panel is just people trading insults. there should be an EU law to end this!! MOAR LEGISLATION! |
insertfunnyusername User ID: 39813007 Greece 05/14/2013 10:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | thing that struck me was germany being the most trusted Quoting: Anonymous Coward 38971256 really, a lot of that panel is just people trading insults. there should be an EU law to end this!! MOAR LEGISLATION! I think a law to end this would be against supposedly EU democratic values, since most of this shit is stirred by the press, but i agree that forming and spreading stereotypes is not helpful at all in the current situation for the average European, but it's very helpful for the banks cause unfortunately. The thing i found funny was that most Europeans said that their own countries are the most compassionate and least arrogant, bias and all. :) |
Hypertiger User ID: 12277324 Canada 05/14/2013 10:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | when the 1991 to 2005 real estate boom in the USA ran out of power to sustain the flow of money out into the world...the global supply of inflation was cut. ending the positive period of the lie and beginning the negative period. But people don't realize that when times were good that it was just a temporary prosperity. During that period so much inflation was produced that it kind of spoiled everyone on Earth into thinking they were smart and had made all the right moves. Until the power supply was exhausted. I knew something was wrong in 1997. But time does not stop. You can slow down or speed up arrival at the logical conclusion but you can not prevent arrival at it. Absolute capitalism Postponement of the inevitable by taking more power than you give by chopping down trees faster than they regrow ends sooner or later. Responsible capitalism If you can figure out how to share power as equally as possible by chopping down trees as fast as or slower than they regrow to postpone the inevitable. You avoid being the cause of your destruction. |
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F F S User ID: 2209280 United Kingdom 05/14/2013 10:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | With an estimated UK population of 63.1m people, this means that every man, woman and child paid 178.65 (£144.17) towards the EU budget in 2011. Quoting: FISHYFELLA They got back 104.12, meaning their net contribution was 74.53. When you take into account additional revenues raised from customs duties, agricultural levies, VAT and even sugar contributions, Britain handed over a total of 13.825bn to Brussels last year. The UK keeps 25pc of these "additional revenues" in fees - last year it received 850m. Britain also received a 3.6bn rebate last year, paid for by other EU countries, which share the cost proportionally. This was negotiated by Margaret Thatcher in 1984. [link to www.telegraph.co.uk] and then a large chunk of it was given back by Phoney Bliar on the promise that the EU would change something (cant remember what at the moment), but did they, did they fuck, yet another reason why we don't trust Shameron with regards to the EU |
Hypertiger User ID: 12277324 Canada 05/14/2013 10:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | People have no ability to make or break LAW. all that people have the ability to do is make and break rules and call rules law. But if a rule attempts to break LAW. Law will break the rule. You could try making it against LAW for trees to run out. Then you can cut down trees faster than they regrow forever and never run out because it's against law for the trees to run out. But it's never worked before. |
F F S User ID: 2209280 United Kingdom 05/14/2013 10:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Most of the money Britain receives from the EU is used to subsidise farming (3.96bn). Quoting: FISHYFELLA If farmers could grow and sell their crops at a fair price everyone would benefit. OOPs except the corporate markets. I don't understand subsidizing farmers NOT to grow crops. The same as everything else, control. Keep the market price high and those in control, have control, makes people think we would be so much worse off out than in. I think the opposite would be true. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1146695 United Kingdom 05/14/2013 10:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just heard something that was rather interesting! Quoting: Upset and confused 1146695 Whilst I am fed up with the EU and would love the UK to leave,it seems things are not that simple... Our farmers have to sell their products at a very cheap price as they are subsidised by the EU! So the EU give our farmers loads of money to sell their stuff Cheap.. I know I said that twice, but I wanted you to understand it... If we were to leave the EU, then the farmers would no longer get that susidy. Which means that it would then have to sell its products at the correct price. Which means... FOOD PRICES WILL SKYROCKET!!!! Not good... What to do????? Our government could do the same with all the money we save subsidiseing euro countries.It works both ways. I Like that idea.. :) |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 38971256 United Kingdom 05/14/2013 10:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | thing that struck me was germany being the most trusted Quoting: Anonymous Coward 38971256 really, a lot of that panel is just people trading insults. there should be an EU law to end this!! MOAR LEGISLATION! I think a law to end this would be against supposedly EU democratic values, since most of this shit is stirred by the press, but i agree that forming and spreading stereotypes is not helpful at all in the current situation for the average European, but it's very helpful for the banks cause unfortunately. The thing i found funny was that most Europeans said that their own countries are the most compassionate and least arrogant, bias and all. :) aw, oh i was just being sarcastic. we really dont need more laws, never mind that you cant legislate against human nature viva la difference! at least it used to be like that until the eu dictated that we are all the same nation. we rubbed along just fine until the eu superstate intervened. now we are at each others throats - when we should be united and at THEIR throats well, save for the occasional war, but one nation started that. and we are still paying for it |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 38971256 United Kingdom 05/14/2013 10:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | With an estimated UK population of 63.1m people, this means that every man, woman and child paid 178.65 (£144.17) towards the EU budget in 2011. Quoting: FISHYFELLA They got back 104.12, meaning their net contribution was 74.53. When you take into account additional revenues raised from customs duties, agricultural levies, VAT and even sugar contributions, Britain handed over a total of 13.825bn to Brussels last year. The UK keeps 25pc of these "additional revenues" in fees - last year it received 850m. Britain also received a 3.6bn rebate last year, paid for by other EU countries, which share the cost proportionally. This was negotiated by Margaret Thatcher in 1984. [link to www.telegraph.co.uk] financial pros and cons aside - what matters here is the principle. the principle that we as a nation (along with all other nations) should be free to decide our own fate the eu isnt and never was about benefitting the people even if it were clearly advantageous to be in the eurozone superstate - what price democracy? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 36496739 United States 05/14/2013 10:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The debt crisis undermines more and more Europes confidence in the EU. The poor economic situation also leads to growing disagreements between large countries and an increasing isolation of Germany. Quoting: Niemand [link to translate.google.de] Losing? We never had faith in it lol Let it go. corruption at the highest levels |
insertfunnyusername User ID: 39813007 Greece 05/14/2013 11:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | aw, oh i was just being sarcastic. we really dont need more laws, never mind that you cant legislate against human nature Quoting: Anonymous Coward 38971256 viva la difference! at least it used to be like that until the eu dictated that we are all the same nation. we rubbed along just fine until the eu superstate intervened. now we are at each others throats - when we should be united and at THEIR throats well, save for the occasional war, but one nation started that. and we are still paying for it Lol, sorry, my sarcasm detection needs a bit of tuning. :) Agreed, EU super-state agenda is problematic and makes sense only for the banks and the very rich unfortunately, the way they pushed this agenda is very sneaky to say the least. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 39235338 Portugal 05/14/2013 11:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 25239010 Portugal 05/14/2013 11:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Been following Mr. Farage for a couple of years now and I still wait that someone like him may arise in the portuguese political decrepit scene. Or even Mr Farage himself may gain the power to induce a political revolution across the EU... These are disgraceful times we're living in, this shouldn't be about surviving on a daily basis, it should be about living life and enjoying your family without all these nasty clouds above us. I would join Mr Farage himself if I wasn't so far away and buried in my little insignificant enslaved life. |
moses787 User ID: 20310847 United States 05/14/2013 11:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | But don't worry!! The Great and the Almighty God of heaven will defeat the new world order ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT; and have them all screaming and yelling their heads off in great pains and agonies. And this will happen after they have tried to force everybody on the planet to accept and take their mark of the beast chip in everybody's forehead or right hand. And according to the Bibles book of Revelation's 13th chapter, and chapter 14, and verse 9-11 (wink); if you take their beast chip, God will punish you severely by having you thrown into the great lake of fire and brimstone, forever and ever, without rest day or night. And this will happen because the mark (chip)will mean that you have rejected God and Jesus Christ; and have chosen Satan and his antichrist as your god and lord. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 24957083 United States 05/14/2013 11:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The debt crisis undermines more and more Europes confidence in the EU. The poor economic situation also leads to growing disagreements between large countries and an increasing isolation of Germany. Quoting: Niemand [link to translate.google.de] The debt crisis was coming before any of those nations joined the EU. Creating the EU and the Euro was the western European answer to prolonging their coming debt crisis, because they can hide their inflation and push their debt onto other countries. I feel sorry for the Eastern European nations who are emerging out of the crisis pretty well and now going to end up being dragged down by Germany and France because of their hidden inflation and total mismanagement of finances. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 39817696 Portugal 05/14/2013 11:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 36928147 Spain 05/14/2013 11:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "Germany will fall behind in global economic competition if it fails to address its shrinking population, Merkel told a government-backed conference on the countrys demographic challenges, touting a signature project she says shell pursue if she wins a third term in federal elections on Sept. 22." businessweek |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 39057986 United Kingdom 05/14/2013 12:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | European politicians, apart from our Nigel Farage.. our Hero, & those greedy Bankers must be as thick as shit can come, if they seriously thought one currency would fit all, when the northern EU countries had more GDP/Industrial output than their southern neighbours. The lunatics MUST.. have know this! No?! We need Nigel in charge, kick out the Bankers outta the City of London, re-nationalize the Bank of England, print our own cash, re-nationalize the all the essential utilities & services, provide jobs in construction & infrastructure, which is 'badly.. badly..!!' needed, .. like, yesterday. Gerry Adams was right..! The EU is just a rich mans club. |