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PHOTOSHOP etc guru help needed to analyze poss UFO pic

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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 83428
Canada
4/19/2006 8:13 PM
Re: PHOTOSHOP etc guru help needed to analyze poss UFO picQuote

how do those types of radiation translate when an actual photo is viewed?

book
janderson
User ID: 81566
South Africa
4/19/2006 8:56 PM
Re: PHOTOSHOP etc guru help needed to analyze poss UFO picQuote

User ID: 83428

yeh it is weird but for some reason digital and even conventional film loaded cameras are able to capture just beyond the edge of the human visual range. Approximated - these wavelengths lower than ultra violet (400nm) and higher than infra red (700nm) may be collected by our eyes, passed along the optic nerve,BUT then filtered/censored before reaching cognitive stages within our brain.

ALSO, "Objects or areas which emit an energy field can cause changes in the refractive index of nearby air molecules. The different refractive indexes between the affected and non-affected areas of the sky cause subtle differences in the light reaching the camera. This is not usually noticeable to the naked eye or 'usually' on printed photographs using film or standard digital camera techniques. Enhancing the images from a digital camera, or from images captured on film can bring out the subtle differences in light caused by the energy fields. This may be due to intensity, polarization, and other possibly unknown effects, but the camera picks them up."
[link to www.navarrone.com]


it could even be a situation whereby the camera is unknowingly sensitive to "un-earthly" properties that are being emitted from certain UFO's. this wouldn't have been designed for, but rather a quirk of quantum physics we don't fully understand yet.
janderson
User ID: 81563
South Africa
4/19/2006 10:03 PM
Re: PHOTOSHOP etc guru help needed to analyze poss UFO picQuote

i just found a similar picture/situation at [link to ufocasebook.com]

page down half way until you see the title "GUMBORO, DELAWARE-PICTURES OF UNKNOWNS DURING ECLIPSE".

you'll notice the picture in the above link looks very similar to that provided by funney on page 1. in this case though the object isn't cloaked to the same extent as "mine", and is orientated relatively upside down. when rotated and turn to grey scale it appears as
[link to img144.imagevenue.com]
janderson
User ID: 81495
South Africa
4/20/2006 8:55 AM
Re: PHOTOSHOP etc guru help needed to analyze poss UFO picQuote

bump

for the possibility of further enhancement!
Duncan Kunz Subscriber
The Debunker King
User ID: 8107
United States
4/20/2006 4:10 PM
Re: PHOTOSHOP etc guru help needed to analyze poss UFO picQuote

charlie says:

"btw, does anybody know if digital cameras are capable of capturing more than just the visible spectrum of radiation?"

Yes. AC 74215, in the post above, is correct.

Try this: have a friend point a TV remote at your camera and operate it (volume or channel) while you take a picture. You will see a white light coming from the IR (infrared) transmitter on the remote.

You can also get filters over yur camera lens which will block out most of the light at around 400-700 nanometers (visible spectrum), allowing the IR to come through. But the IR source has to be pretty strong to register, since the CCD (charge-coupled devices) inyour camera are designed to "see' pretty much what YOU do.

You can also use special filters for your camera lens and strobe to block out everything except UV (ultraviolet) light, which is cool, because you can make something fluoresce (glow in the dark) under UV illumination.

However, this will only work about as far as your stobe will reliably light stuff up, ranging from about 3 meters (~10 feet) for land shots or 20 cm (6-7 inches) for underwater shots.

There are also specialized CCDs available which are more sensitive to light outside of the 550 nm spectrum, but I'm not that familiar with any of them. My guess is that they cost a BUNDLE, and you'd you'd have to be capable of putting them in a camera yourself, or else get the specialized camera that is also undoubtedly available, and it would cost a HUGE bundle.

Here are some pictures taken with various IR filters on a Nikon 950, a camera similar to mine (I have a Nikon 990). [link to homepage.mac.com]
Where's the EVIDENCE, Jim?
janderson
User ID: 81563
South Africa
4/21/2006 6:43 AM
Re: PHOTOSHOP etc guru help needed to analyze poss UFO picQuote

bump

c'mon... any glpers out there who can shed some light on this????
jd107
User ID: 958
South Africa
4/21/2006 1:49 PM
Re: PHOTOSHOP etc guru help needed to analyze poss UFO picQuote

janderson, i checked out the links you provided. WOW - wish i was so lucky.....i try all the time to keep my eyes checking skyward but with no luck. this cloaking stuff sounds like it has some sound physics behind it.

your "object" is definitely not from our world, and it looks like a dead ringer for the lunar eclipse craft in the image you provided.
bump bump

i'm interested to see if the "cube UFO" can be tweaked out a bit more.

also why your interest in clouds so much may i ask??
janderson
User ID: 81495
South Africa
4/21/2006 5:12 PM
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jd107....clouds in my opinion are not just a high concentration of water vapour... that's just the simplistic primary school taught crap that science students then carry on with them upon becoming "scientists".

clouds are orgone/etheric energy vehicles, with the H2O being a by-product of energy transfer from other dimensions into this one, but more commonly upper atmosphere/low orbit etheric interaction.
durbinite
User ID: 958
South Africa
4/22/2006 8:54 PM
Re: PHOTOSHOP etc guru help needed to analyze poss UFO picQuote

OK, been checking out this thread... gotta laugh at the two weak attempts at debunking on the previous page. User ID: 81865 says mylar balloon. i didn't know they made balloons that cloak. But we believers are not all up to his genius level.

and the sad son of a bitch User ID: 74215 who provides his/her expert opinion re a thrown object is indictitive of their closed mind-set refusing to see the obvious.

janderson, this photo shows:

a. a UFO craft/inorganic life form fluctuating in and out of our dimension, or

b. a ufo/military black-ops craft losing partial cloaking properties.

ALSO - check out that object located above and to the left of the main focal point. it is tied into the story somehow. last night i also came across a similar pic from Mount Z???? vtaken a few years back. I can't recall details though. it has a similar "wash/ripple" pattern flowing behind a silvery sphere too!!!

CAPE TOWN- you're accurate in saying energy anomolies prevalent. clouds rush up against Table Mountain and give the viewer a motion picture to digest any day of the week. this feature is important with regards to your thread.
bump

trinity- can't you pin this for a couple of hours - it might attract some more photo enhancer GLPers to shed additional light on this thread.

bump

pin
oxygen
User ID: 84551
Greece
4/22/2006 9:06 PM
Re: PHOTOSHOP etc guru help needed to analyze poss UFO picQuote

visual artist here.. working on it..
-Catalyst-
User ID: 2307
United States
4/22/2006 9:28 PM
Re: PHOTOSHOP etc guru help needed to analyze poss UFO picQuote

I used Smart sharpen for the first two
[link to img128.imageshack.us]
[link to img128.imageshack.us]

Then find edges filter with sharpen.
[link to img128.imageshack.us]

Then just a simple increasing of the contrast in this last one.
[link to img128.imageshack.us]
oxygen
User ID: 84551
Greece
4/22/2006 10:05 PM
Re: PHOTOSHOP etc guru help needed to analyze poss UFO picQuote

There is two critical facts:
- The source file has a very low resolution
- The source file is a jpeg (lossy) file and that means it is processed using an old phone's software tool

IF there is something up there, it can be anything. Whatever the object is, when you try to define it using only 10-15 pixels the result will be always something very simular to this black dot.

Janderson, the pic is taken using normal-daylight mode or night mode (or something similar) by mistake?

Maybe is just a case of "hotpixels" (a known CCD sensor's characteristic)
janderson
User ID: 81563
South Africa
4/22/2006 10:42 PM
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thanks oxygen, the camera was in normal mode, high resolution (welll as high as you can call it for a nokia 6230!). night mode messes with the cloud appearance/depth - so i never use that unless it's dark. i agree it's a pity the photo wasn't taken with a proper high res digital camera, it would've made things a lot easier.

-Catalyst-, i just got back to my pc, so i'm about to check your enhancements now. thanks in advance though!

durbanite, i'll try and see what "mount z" ufo you're referring to.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 2307
United States
4/22/2006 10:53 PM
Re: PHOTOSHOP etc guru help needed to analyze poss UFO picQuote

"Maybe is just a case of "hotpixels" (a known CCD sensor's characteristic)"

Not sure, but doesn't that only show up in the very center of an image?
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 64455
United States
4/22/2006 11:31 PM
Re: PHOTOSHOP etc guru help needed to analyze poss UFO picQuote

You have a photo of the same craft that have been caught hovering above many cities in the Googe maps, check out the link

[link to maps.google.com]
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 64455
United States
4/22/2006 11:32 PM
Re: PHOTOSHOP etc guru help needed to analyze poss UFO picQuote

Zoom in on that by the way, the craft in the Google maps, it looks just like what you have!
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 81495
South Africa
4/22/2006 11:40 PM
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-Catalyst-, what's up with this thing?

are there three corners to a triangle?

also the section that resembles a squiggly tail bottom right!

this opens up possibilities that it might be , as durbinite puts it, an inorganic multi-dimensional life form. if that's the case our 3-D minds will find it extremely difficult to describe WTF it is!

oxygen, this camera phone has never really given me a problem with hot pixels before. so whilst a good point to consider, i'd put my faith behind it being a real object without unusal at
janderson
User ID: 81566
South Africa
4/22/2006 11:44 PM
Re: PHOTOSHOP etc guru help needed to analyze poss UFO picQuote

tributes due to "night mode".

User ID: 64455, google ufo's nice link - thanks... semi-transparent cloaking seee here for florida google ufo

[link to www.flickr.com]
Catalyst
User ID: 2307
United States
4/22/2006 11:51 PM
Re: PHOTOSHOP etc guru help needed to analyze poss UFO picQuote

I really have no idea. It could be a motion blur effect. The checkerboard pattern is weird. I think it could just be pixel distortion, or whatever the technical term for that is.
janderson
User ID: 81566
South Africa
4/22/2006 11:57 PM
Re: PHOTOSHOP etc guru help needed to analyze poss UFO picQuote

i've tried to "tease" out this checkerboard effect etc from similar looking ufo pics, and have come up with this image from ufo case files, zion national park, 2004.

[link to img18.imagevenue.com]

when analyzed together with the luner eclipse photo, and "our" cape town ufo - we have three checkerboard patterns associated with three ufo's that WERE NOT VISIBLE TO THE NAKED EYE - BUT LEAVES EVIDENCE OF ITS' PRESENCE ON DIGITAL PHOTOGRAPHIC EQUIPMENT.

ratdance
janderson
User ID: 81563
South Africa
4/23/2006 12:19 AM
Re: PHOTOSHOP etc guru help needed to analyze poss UFO picQuote

thanks guys/girls for your help so far.

on a different point, it has been interesting to see readers responses. even within a forum frequented by people seasoned in such a topic, it didn't take long for a couple of participants to try and smear away the possibility of a legit UFO episode.

makes you wonder how many people who mention a sighting may receive ridicule and even open hostility - and so quickly drop the matter like a hot potato.
ac
User ID: 958
South Africa
4/25/2006 10:21 AM
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bump
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gutted
User ID: 958
South Africa
4/30/2006 11:36 PM
Re: PHOTOSHOP etc guru help needed to analyze poss UFO picQuote

janderson, no shit it's not from this world...

rense has posted a similar sphere in the last couple of days but it does not show the "cube" (un)cloaked.

i'm wondering if there isn't a photoshop plugin to bring out the rest of the ufo? bump
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 88342
South Africa
5/2/2006 11:08 AM
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