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70 JORDANIAN CODICES SPEAK AN ANCIENT TRUTH.....

 
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70 METAL BOOKS FROM JORDAN - JORDANIAN CODICES SPEAK AN ANCIENT TRUTH

Many discredit them...Claiming they are fake...Why put so much effort into it...Unless they tell an ancient truth 'TPTB' want hidden!

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Thanks to My friend Wayne at- thehiddenrecords.com

70 Jordanian codices - metal books are ancient books actually made of thin sheets of two different metals, mainly lead which were discovered in a cave in Jordan. Many are still sealed books and appear to be over 1500 years old.

The Jordan Times newspaper reported that the lead books that were scientifically tested are trully ancient and appear to be real artifacts.
According to the Department of Antiquities (DoA), first stage of aging tests to determine the authenticity of lead-sealed metal books are the greatest find in biblical archaeology since the Dead Sea scrolls.
The tests, carried out at the Royal Scientific Society labs, indicate that the texts may date back to the early first century AD, at a time when Christians took refuge from persecution on the east bank of the Jordan River.
JORDAN METAL BOOKS HOLD IMPORTANT PICTOGLYPHS CAN BE DECODED

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In a nutshell, the truth emerging so far will not only elevate the reality of a Universal Creator to a higher and more pure human uplifting outcome, it stands a chance of uniting all traditions in every nation who actually share different pieces of this encoded puzzle. This possibility seems to be something our world super power elite would not find in their best interests at all as it will begin to work against their tactics, supporting their insatiable craving for ever bigger profiteering from chaos, religious differences and war.

ELITE SNEAK OUT DOCUMENTS PROVING UFO’S & ALIENS EXIST

Its important to mention this UFO analysis protocol right now... the subject was officially denied previously but something wonderful is happening, perhaps by force, and its perfect timing for what follows because the contents of the metal books ties the subject of celestial visitors ... star visitors to The Christ story in a massive way. The elitist powers that be have found a way to launch disclosure officially, and without much media fanfare and to prevent embarrassment for hiding all records on the UFO/alien subject to date. Perhaps because they know what is soon about to begin in our skies. Disclosure of this info was promised by Barack Obama before entering into office and it has happened so controversially that no big media are comfortable about the way that it has unfolded.
The time has come to evaluate the hidden records of the metal Jordanian Codices but incorporating the new parameters without which, none of what they depict would make any sense:

1) We are not alone in this universe
2) The ancients never lied
3) The details of this cosmic pattern are found in virtually the beginnings of ALL civilisations around the globe.

THE METAL JORDANIAN CODICES SPEAK A FORBIDDEN TRUTH

This particular metal plate was covered in a news release by The Telegraph. It speaks of David Elkington’s amazing story, which sounds as exciting as the DaVinci Code epic. This small credit-card sized plate has only one theme and it is told in two ways. Scholars agree it was an identification plate carried by a person who would want to be able to conceal it due to its size and produce it to show he was a member of lets say… a secret society. It was secret because any person found delving into beliefs outside the traditional religion of the day would be sentenced to death as a heretic.


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FIRST METAL BOOK FROM JORDAN DECIPHERED

The plate appears to be divided into three portions. All three tell the same secret in three different ways. The first portion with the Menorah is the main secret icon of this group showing that the Menorah with seven candles represents seven celestial lights in the heavens which prove it is the star constellation M45... the Pleiades. This star cluster is close to locate the house of the Eloheim... that which religion has on record as "God'. The Menorah is a long stem version with three orbs as part of its design representing Orion's Belt rising vertically on the horizon with SOL Invictus (25th December.. Pre Christian tradition) and Orion was the sacred cross of the churches.


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The middle portion is a breaking discovery in decoding this secret because it shows a star map of Orion and the Pleiades matching many other ancient star maps found in the beginning of ancient civilisations. The cluster is shown and the mysterious curved line suggesting a path or line of sight between the Pleiades and the Sun star with planet. It could also mean a cosmic journey from the Pleiades as a general area to our Sun and planet Earth. This second interpretation falls short because it uses three stars in a row heavenward to find the Sun... so it cant possibly be our Sun, it is another sun system which also matches all the other ancient star map themes found globally. There is a third possibility here that the curved line is a path of the heavenly deities and the line joins that which arcs around the Pleiades to the area where another sun star is found in many ancient star maps, and here suggesting it was colonisation from the second sun star before the main Sun star with planet depicted.


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SACRED CROSS OF THE CHURCHES IS ORION - PLETHORA OF EVIDENCE

The image above depicts two of the at least seven of the most conclusive and stongest cases proving the sacred cross of the churches is Orion... Why Orion? ... It is the cosmic sign post. But what is it showing the way to? The center part of this image is 6000 years old and its found carved on a rock in Valcamonic in Italy. It is well known in UFO research communities because it depicts what appears to be an ancient being with helmet, bent knees and pointed toes suggesting the entity it flying. With dating around 6000 years ago this the oldest depiction of the secret of the Cross of the sky that Constantine, the man who launched Christianity said he and his whole army witnessed.

The stars matching this double Cross formation are Orion ... follow the three stars in a row to something sacred. The Three stars in a row legend is revived in the Christ story in the Matthew text... the Three Kings... (Orions Belt) as it rises vertically aligned on 25th December, it follows (alignment) to the position of a Sun-like star near the seven stars of the Pleiades. The primary importance of this text speaks of following the way to locate the Bethlehem Sun-like star position in the sky. In other words it encodes that one 'follows' (line of sight) the Three Magi/Kings from the East (rises in the East) to locate the star associated with the beginnings/birth/origins of The Christ.

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SACRED DOUBLE CROSS OF THE CHURCHES ON METAL BOOKS

Scholars have mentioned in many news reports already that the depiction of the Double Cross symbol on the metal books suggests a time of the return of a Messiah who they speculate will be a part of the breaking of some of the seals on these metal books. The Double Cross of Orion is found in the other metal books. Two metal books are depicted with the Menorah and seven stars.... both symbolic of the star secret. The seven stars of the Pleiades, seven celestial lights in the heavens celebrated in one's home with seven candles.

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W. Durant said..."A great civilization is not conquered from without until it has destroyed itself from within"...
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It is better to have a mind opened by wonder...Than one closed by belief
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To the mind that is still...The whole universe surrenders...
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Author of The Soul Collector - 2011

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THE MENORAH OF SEVEN STARS HAS A LONG STEM WITH THREE ORBS

Orion's Belt rises with three stars vertically and align in the sky with the pleiades above it. It is here where three Sun-like stars are found in many other star maps found around the world. The secret of the Vatican City layout plan includes the exact same star secret...The three stars of Orion's Belt and the Pleiades and three Sun-like stars is presented where it only focuses on the most important of the three Sun-like stars.... the Star of Bethlehem and the place of our human ancestors.

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THE MENORAH AND COSMIC TREE MERGE - MORE STAR SECRETS

This metal book image released July 2011 brings clarity to all the Menorah interpretations, especially of the stem representing Orion rising on the horizon and the seven candles representing the seven star of the Pleiades. It seems to show more star detail as well, above the wreath-like green portion is a merging of the star secret with the Cosmic Tree of God. The ancients would put the two secrets of God and our star ancestors as one... which is how the biblical epic appears today. Above the green wreath of the Cosmic Tree, a string of constellations seem to be depicted and joined with symbols looking like 'x' 'y' 'z' 'f' formations which run at right angles to the sacred alignment of Orions belt seen vertically above the horizon with pleiades and Sun stars above it.
The depiction of three stars above the Menorah as the solar trinity. Lastly... in dual depiction fitting with this star merging cosmic Tree connection teaching... below the Menorah a depiction of cosmic Tree .. one that connects to all life on all star systems... shows seven fruit of the Pleiades here and two other bright sacred cross secret linked stars. Yes ... no doubt here, this is a very complicated hard to believe story... but consistent with all I have presented previously.
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THE SECRET NUMBERS THAT REVEAL THE PLACE OF THE ELOHEIM....GOD

The metal book below has a number sequence that is well known in secret society historical record and it serves as the most precise way to remember the star position learing just four digits... 3 5 7 1

This number sequence is mentioned in an early Masonic record in an old book. It is described as a way... a journey heavenward to find God... with secret numbers... each depicted in series of steps towards heaven.

The best part of all... the secret of the Palm Tree symbol follows soon... it was the encoding of God... not a man... not of flesh... an omnipotent light at the centre of the universe that processes all souls... The Tree of Life.

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THE CROSS OF CONSTANTINE LEADS TO THE COSMIC TREE
The metal book below has something wonderful encoded... It literally depicts the Tree of plasma ribbons forming the sacred Cross out of plasma ribbons, something associated with the myth of cosmic serpents, which is part of the cosmic Tree itself.
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THE CROSS OF CONSTANTINE IMAGE
The metal book appears to be a follow-on from the image above. Compare one against the other and one can see there is similarity different only by sequence. Probably a visual appearance in the sky again and something humanity will witness again soon. From the previous image there are probably seven stars on the bottom representing the Pleiades but the oxidation damage we see only five stars in the image. Seven stars positioned as the Pleiades with Orion as the blazing Cross orientated correctly with the Pleiades as a secret cosmic pointer locator using Orion's Belt.
This Cross appearance in the sky acording to the metal book depiction suggests intelligence connected to the formation, it could be in the process of forming an image of the Cosmic Tree with the strange "fruit" as its symbolic knowledge seen in the other Cosmic Tree depictions with three, five and seven 'fruits' formed on it. The sacred numbers already discussed... teaching the way to find a special star, the star of our ancestors.

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THERE'S A STORM COMING!!!
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W. Durant said..."A great civilization is not conquered from without until it has destroyed itself from within"...
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Not everyone will understand your journey...That's fine...It's not their journey to make sense of...IT'S YOURS!
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It is better to have a mind opened by wonder...Than one closed by belief
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To the mind that is still...The whole universe surrenders...
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Author of The Soul Collector - 2011

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SYMBOL FOR HAND OF GOD LEADS TO CRACKING "HOUSE" OF GOD SYMBOL

The metal book has these mysterious 'fruits' that look like pears forming on what I am certain is the Cosmic Tree and its something that the ancients actually saw in the sky as an apparition. The most amazing thing of the hand of God symbol is that its most common and earliest source is Hebrew and it looks like a UFO with all seeing eye (which is universal reference for Eloheim... Elo - "people" that come from Heim - 'heavens") and it is the same symbol for the Hindu and Egyptian and Arabic derivitives which have seven dots most likely representing Pleiades.

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On the left part of the image above note the UFO similarity to Ezekiels wheel... a disc with all seeing eye. It has led to the solution of one very forgotten 'God' symbol which is tied to the Sacred Cross secret at Lalibela and the symbols used in the layout pattern in both the Vatican and Monaco Palace...seen at close camera angles thanks to the recent wedding ceremony of the Prince of Monaco with his South African bride now Princess Charlene of Monaco. The wedding ceremony took the Chi Rho theory a lot further where the Chi Rho double cross symbol of the floor pattern in the Palace aligns with a Masonic-like Blazing Sun at its entrance where Princess Charlene entered.
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At Lalibela all the churches especially one that is the most important monument in the Lalibela layout plan star map. All the church windows have a theme of Sacred cross of Orion aligning with this shape...A white Omega shaped symbol staircase ... with ChiRho symbol forecourt.
The meaning of the strange key hole Omega symbol representing "house of God" is conclusive. It also fits the missing star references for the Chi-rho pattern, and the complete star matching pattern are cleverly designed into the white Omega shaped staircase... it had three blazing stars correctly orientated up on the stairs in masonic 'celestial staircase' tradition. That would make the large Blazing sun at the entrance ... OUR Sun.

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SOLOMON KEY SACRED CROSS CIPHER OF ORION...THE VATICAN & WASHINGTON DC

Years ago Dan Brown hinted he was going to be writing on the solomon Key mystery perhaps because it is one of the last great encoded historical puzzles that will challenge the foundation of all religion. He said he would publish a book on this before launching his book Lost Symbol. The historical record is known as the Key of Solomon Cipher ... something that would no doubt be more controversial than DaVinci Code. Then he dropped it like a hot potato.

Washington DC layout plan has ties to the Solomon key and was included in his book Lost Symbol. But interesting to mention... Lost Symbol seems like an introduction to the main part of Solomon key which is all focused around one symbol mystery... its meaning previously lost. The symbol of the circumpunct. Its the symbol for the Sun star of Ra... the star of Bethlehem and the star of David. Maybe Brown is busy fine tuning a book right now...?.... or not.

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THE PYRAMIDS SECRET ENCODED ON THE METAL BOOKS
The correlation of two pyramids are visible with bright stars positioned precisely above them. This is very important and stands as the first ancient 'biblical' works supporting pyramid star correlations. Although there are only two pyramids in the depiction along one print line (its repeated twice and there is a miss print)... there are three stars in a row. This is the main theme on the previous metal books and most likey Orion's Belt.
The secret message on this metal book has the Menorah in line with the three Belt stars of Orion... This is the secret of the star map!

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One has to ask... if these books are from Jordan and speak of the Christ, one could speculate that the missing years of the Christ might be included in some of the books. Some scholars have suggested previously that he roamed ancient Egypt.
The Cosmic Tree ... one bearing on fruit... another three near the Pleiades/Menorah and one with seven fruit. The earlier metal book reasoned these number correlations as part of the star map. But here the Cosmic Tree can be upside down as it is the ether.. plasma ribbons that connect to our world and ... enhanced inside the pyramids.
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THERE'S A STORM COMING!!!
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W. Durant said..."A great civilization is not conquered from without until it has destroyed itself from within"...
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Not everyone will understand your journey...That's fine...It's not their journey to make sense of...IT'S YOURS!
-----------------------------
It is better to have a mind opened by wonder...Than one closed by belief
---------------------------------
To the mind that is still...The whole universe surrenders...
-------------------------------------
Author of The Soul Collector - 2011

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THE SEALED METAL BOOK OF THE BLAZING FACE MONUMENT OF HELIOS
Stories in the papers claim this is the Face of The Christ. Scholars have already had a huge reaction to this claim and say the depiction represents a Solar Deity. The most popular theory is that it depicts Helios. In all probability both claims are right because The Christ was one teaching of the Sol star.. the Bethlehem Sun-like star associated with humanities origins. The statue of Liberty is another Solar Deity and few know the Masonic connection for placing the statue of liberty where it is and why she has seven blazing rays of light.

The face on this sealed metal book appears to have flames around the head...the extracted the detail to show it is a Solar Deity. All that counts here is simply the association of the Great person being revered here with the Sun star secret. In the Helios carving it also has a star and world in crescent which matches other depictions of Solar deities.

The most important detail about finding a face on a metalbook like this is paramount... It is depicted in an oval fashion without neck, curved high hairline, left eye emphasized and on the forehead... symbol for the Peniel... a mark... the third eye... the spoken name that Jacob called 'Peniel' now called Deir Alla.
This is a match to the Face Monument of Deir Alla.
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MEMORY OF THE ONE MURDERED FOR TEACHING OF THE CROSS & 'SUN' OF MAN

The lost teachings of the Christ... the metal books. These metal books reveal how the people of the time of The Christ could not understand the difference between praying to their Creator in heaven and simply remembering just with a sense of honour of the SUN of man... the Sun-like star of Bethlehem secret now removed completely from history. The elite believed the secret of the Sun star if revealed to all humanity would create equality amongst nations because it is found in the foundations of all history in all nations. This uplifting realisation of a sacred bloodline being the same for ALL humanity will also bring about peace and unity.

This was something not in the best interests of the Elite Army as its evil habit for funding 'elite prosperity' was war... to plunder... to conquer... to profiteer... to enslave and take advantage of both commoners and foreigners... and it is alive and well today. The rich get richer and poor get poorer.

This abomination and abuse of humanity by the opulent powerful manipulating rich is about to end...Known in history that they murdered those who taught of the forbidden secret of the Orion Cross showing the way in the sky to the position of the SUN of man. The elite would want to make an example of those who spoke on this forbidden truth, and the message to warn others, the penalty for promoting this Sun-star secret would be death, forcing the victim to wear a radiant crown of thorns and to be crucified on a cross!

The time is perhaps very near to see the return of 'The Christ' riding his disc that forms a cloud, one who will be seen by all who will end the destructive elite ways once and for all, revealing just with his spoken words... the opulent ones by name who are destroying the human gift of life.

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AFRICAN WOODEN BOOK COLLECTION SPEAKS THE SAME CODE
Almost identical in appearance, the African Chokwe wooden book discoveries from Zambia were published in 2005, almost the same time the metal books were found in the cave by the Bedouin truck driver in Jordan. Instead of metal in all likelihood due to the lack of resources, the African tribe used wood. Perhaps the upset in religious circles starts here, people who still narrow-mindedly challenge who were the chosen people of God. History has it that a Hebrew speaking group of Semitic people of African lineage, around the time the metal books were in use, travelled with the Ark up the river Nile to Lalibela, which has the same star secret tradition.
It is not hard to imagine how that tradition slowly spread south if one considers gauging by what the elders of the Chokwe tribe claim today. Namely, that they were visited by their ancestors from the sky who taught them the same truth in the same manner.
Let us consider the obvious. That all humanity are the chosen people of God, and both books – the metal ones and the wooden ones – in different parts of the world speak of the same Sacred Cross secret. They both used similar pictoglyph teaching mechanisms. Both present the same star patterns as star maps of the same area in the cosmos which are identified on some of the metal books here.
The most substantiating portrayal is the same seven stars as the metal books themes, a path of travel...

LANDING ON THE PRIMORDIAL MOUND

It is the depiction of the Face Monument of Jacob at Succoth shown below near the cave where the metal books were discovered.
The Middle East archeology experts say this mound is called Deir Alla, its a Bronze age mysterious man made mound and artifacts found here include remains of the earliest Hebrew texts with the usage of the Hebrew word 'Eloheim' in context referring to... MUlTIPLE BEINGS COMING FROM THE HEAVENS!
Jacobs ladder references in Genesis:

28 : 12 - Ladder
31 : 46,52 - Heap
32 : 30 - 'Peniel' was the name for the place of the Face of God
It was one where the biblical character Jacob was told to build something remarkable to mark that in the heavens... As above ... So below... on the ground using pillars as markers and a 'heap' of blocks
The sacred mound of Creation as mentioned in the Egyptian records called Zep Tepi?

Was it Jacob who built the first sacred mound, or did he restore it?

Is it possible this mound predates the pyramids and Stonehenge star map themes?

Is the face on the sealed book the same solar star deity as the face monument?

Do the metal books link the Face monument to the other ancient star maps?

BIBLICAL JACOB - FOUNDER OF ISRAEL - HIS LADDER AND MOUND
Deir Alla...Deir Alla is a name and has multi-lingual history ties and suggests its name worked into languages since it is so ancient.

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ITS ALL IN THE NAME!
Its Aramaic and Greek and Arabic... Deir Alla has a multiple fit with God or Mother or temple ... Face of God... place of God... mother temple of truth... a encoded name that would stand the test of time.

In Greek, Deir means TEMPLE... Alla means TRUTH... Deir Alla - "TEMPLE OF TRUTH"

Since Greek texts that comprise some biblical accounts date back to just after the Christ and no one knows when this name was given, Greek Hebrew and Aramaic were common languages in this part of the world. Since they built a Temple on top of a hill that had by erosion lost its primary features to be recognised as a face...the secret of the star map would have been the truth aspect in this TEMPLE OF TRUTH built on the sacred mound. Perhaps this is the legendary sacred mound associated with the Egypt mound legend... the Mound of the first time..Zep Tepi!
A mound that might have been the first monument on our world... in a place that was like Egypt at the time was a temperate greener land.

Some Biblical references cover detail on the place where the biblical character Jacob said he was shown a secret about the stars... the legend of Jacobs Ladder.

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Jacob said he named the place "Face of God" near Luz close to Succoth in Jordan where this ladder touched down...
The pyramids and stonehenge connect to the mystery... the story all bound together including Helios and finding a Priory holding records of the unthinkable in Italy... another Bible that actually has a depiction of a UFO showing what really made the walls of Jerico crumble...the Sun deity origin connection to The Christ... and a fresco... one where it shows God riding a celestial disk... a UFO!....But that's another thread...
THERE'S A STORM COMING!!!
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W. Durant said..."A great civilization is not conquered from without until it has destroyed itself from within"...
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Not everyone will understand your journey...That's fine...It's not their journey to make sense of...IT'S YOURS!
-----------------------------
It is better to have a mind opened by wonder...Than one closed by belief
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To the mind that is still...The whole universe surrenders...
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Author of The Soul Collector - 2011

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Thank you!!
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It is better to have a mind opened by wonder...Than one closed by belief
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To the mind that is still...The whole universe surrenders...
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Not everyone will understand your journey...That's fine...It's not their journey to make sense of...IT'S YOURS!
-----------------------------
It is better to have a mind opened by wonder...Than one closed by belief
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To the mind that is still...The whole universe surrenders...
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Not everyone will understand your journey...That's fine...It's not their journey to make sense of...IT'S YOURS!
-----------------------------
It is better to have a mind opened by wonder...Than one closed by belief
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To the mind that is still...The whole universe surrenders...
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Author of The Soul Collector - 2011

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Wow OP, extremely interesting and excellent work!

The star symbol, looks very much like this:


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Wow OP, extremely interesting and excellent work!

The star symbol, looks very much like this:


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Thank you!...YES it is all part of the truth!
THERE'S A STORM COMING!!!
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W. Durant said..."A great civilization is not conquered from without until it has destroyed itself from within"...
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Not everyone will understand your journey...That's fine...It's not their journey to make sense of...IT'S YOURS!
-----------------------------
It is better to have a mind opened by wonder...Than one closed by belief
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To the mind that is still...The whole universe surrenders...
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".......The Jordanian government has yet to make an official announcement.

However, Dr Peter Thonemann, a lecturer in ancient history at Oxford University, said: "I'm as certain as it is possible to be that this entire body of codices are modern fakes. I would stake my academic reputation on it."
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Quite amazing.

Thank you very much, OP.

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".......The Jordanian government has yet to make an official announcement.

However, Dr Peter Thonemann, a lecturer in ancient history at Oxford University, said: "I'm as certain as it is possible to be that this entire body of codices are modern fakes. I would stake my academic reputation on it."
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W. Durant said..."A great civilization is not conquered from without until it has destroyed itself from within"...
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Not everyone will understand your journey...That's fine...It's not their journey to make sense of...IT'S YOURS!
-----------------------------
It is better to have a mind opened by wonder...Than one closed by belief
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To the mind that is still...The whole universe surrenders...
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Jordan Lead Codices

The Jordan Lead Codices, (sometimes called simply the Jordanian Codices), are a collection of codices said to have been found in a cave in Jordan and first publicized in March 2011. Several scholars have pronounced them fakes. In November 2012, A regional BBC News investigation also pronounced the codices to be fake.

Press reports and comment

On 3 March 2011 the Jewish Chronicle ran an article interviewing a metallurgist named Robert Feather, who it stated was trying to authenticate a collection of 20 metal books which, it said, could be linked to the Kabbalah and were in the possession of an Israeli Bedouin farmer named Hassan Saeda, who claimed that they had been found by his great-grandfather in a cave a century ago. It added that a piece of leather from the find had already been carbon dated to 2,000 years ago. The article reported that the Israel Antiquities Authority (IAA) "absolutely doubted their authenticity," saying the books are a "mixture of incompatible periods and styles without any connection or logic. Such forged motifs can be found in their thousands in the antiquities markets of Jordan and elsewhere in the Middle East". It added that Professor André Lemaire, an epigraphist and director of studies at the École pratique des hautes études, said the inscriptions he has seen make no sense and that it was "a question apparently of sophisticated fakes".

On 22 March 2011 David Elkington issued a press release stating that a hoard of ancient books made of lead and copper, together with other artefacts, probably dating from the 1st century AD, had been found in Jordan, and that they might predate the writings of St. Paul and that "leading academics" believed they might be as important as the Dead Sea Scrolls. Elkington also stated that the items were discovered 5 years ago in a cave by a Jordanian Bedouin and smuggled into Israel, where they were at risk of sale on the black market or destruction. The story was quickly picked up by the BBC, the Daily Mail and other media outlets.

Elkington stated that the find was of "up to 70 ring-bound books (codices) made of lead and copper. Many of them are sealed on all sides. Scrolls, tablets and other artefacts, including an incense bowl, were also found at the same site. Some of the lead pages are written in a form of archaic Hebrew script with ancient messianic symbols. Some of the writing appears to be in a form of code." In the press release he stated that his team included biblical scholars Margaret Barker and Philip R. Davies.

The BBC version of the story stated that the codices had been found in a cave in Jordan, sometime between 2005 and 2007.

The Daily Telegraph added that metallurgical analysis on the books, and carbon dating on a piece of leather found with the collection, suggested that the books could be about 2,000 years old, although it also questioned whether the find was authentic. Elkington, described as a "scholar of ancient religious archaeology who is heading a British team trying to get the lead books safely into a Jordanian museum" claimed that they could be "the major discovery of Christian history", and the director of the Jordan's Department of Antiquities, Ziad al-Saad, said that the books might have been made by followers of Jesus in the few decades immediately following his crucifixion.

The BBC article said that the books consist of between 5-15 leaves or plates each, about the size of a credit card, made of lead and copper, and bound together with lead rings on one side. Many of the books are also sealed with rings on the remaining three sides. Elkington reported that "In the upper square [of one of the book covers] we have the seven-branch menorah", and the text is said to be in archaic Hebrew script (Paleo Hebrew), and some in "code".

Davies is reported as noting the presence of a cross, tomb, and city of Jerusalem depicted in the books.

A news report described Barker as believing that if the artefacts are genuine, they could be Christian texts from as early as 33 AD. A BBC report stated that a line has been translated from the text as "I shall walk uprightly".

The press release and the BBC report on 29 March 2011 indicated that the Jordanian government would make a claim for the ownership of the collection under the treasure trove statutes of Jordanian law.

Further developments

A number of experts urged skepticism until further investigation could be conducted.

On 31 March 2011, a letter was published online by Daniel C. Peterson which had been written in 2010 by Elkington. The letter was to Oxford academic Peter Thonemann, sending images of a "copper tablet" and asking for information on Greek text on it. Thonemann replied that the item was a modern forgery, created during the last 50 years in Jordan, because the text copied a truncated tombstone inscription (AD 108/9) from the Archaeological Museum of Amman.[11] Thonemann said that he "would stake [his] career" on his belief that the material had been faked.[12]Professor Jim Davila also published Elkington's letter and Thonemann's reply. In his letter to Thonemann in 2010, Elkington said that he had been told that the codices were from Egypt, not that the material was from Jordan as stated in his press release.

On 3 April, The Mail on Sunday published an interview with Hassan Saeda, whom it described as a Bedouin trucker, aged 37, including extra images from the material and a story of how they came into his possession. The paper made a claim that a face on one plate "could be" the face of Jesus, but gave no authority for it. On the same day the Sunday Telegraph published an interview with Elkington.

Also on 3 April 2011, historian William J. Hamblin called into question the Jesus image on the tablet, stating it looked a great deal like images of Helios also found on ancient coins.

An article in the Daily Telegraph on 3 April 2011 stated that David Elkington was also known as Paul Elkington, and had a book on the codices which literary agent Curtis Brown would be trying to market to publishers at the London Book Fair on 11 April.

On 4 April 2011, Philip R. Davies posted a statement on Sheffield's Biblical Studies blog suggesting that, while he recognized that the images were modern, the codices were probably not a hoax nor "forgeries".

On 4 April 2011 an unconfirmed report appeared, dated to 3 April, on the MEMRI Web site quoting Ziyad Al-Sa'd, director-general of Jordan's antiquities authority, as saying that the items were found in Jordan and sold on the black market to an "Israeli antiquities dealer". There was no indication of whether Hassan Saeda was meant here. Questions were also raised by an Aramaic blogger about the authenticity of the script used on the plates.

Robert Deutsch weighed in on 5 April, arguing that the tablets lacked patina and corrosion and, along with others, he noted that all the iconography and script appeared to come directly from coins dating to multiple periods (Hellenistic, Hasmonean, and Bar Kokhba) in antiquity.

On 6 April 2011 Peter Thonemann repeated his statements about a letter from Elkington in 2010 in the Times Literary Supplement,.

On 6 April the Jordan Times published an article describing the codices as a collection of 2,000-year-old manuscripts.

On 6 April Dr. James E. Deitrick suggested that the image on one of the lead plates is a replica of a 3rd-century mosaic portrait dubbed "The Mona Lisa of the Galilee."

On 9 April Prof. Jim Davila published the following summary on his PaleoJudaica blog:

The Greek is lifted nonsensically from an inscription published in 1958. The forger couldn't tell the difference between the Greek letters alpha and lambda. The Hebrew script is taken from the same inscription. The Hebrew text is in "code," i.e., is gibberish. The "Jesus" face is taken from a well-known mosaic. The charioteer is taken from a fake coin. The crocodile has a suspicious resemblance to a plastic toy. This forger was not Professor Moriarty. This forger was a careless bumbler. That makes it all the more galling how readily the media fell for the scam.
On 11 April the Daily Express reported Thonemann's comments together with a response by David Elkington that Thonemann was not a biblical scholar but a Greek scholar.

Also on 11 April, Live Science reported that the letter forms were a mixture of old Aramaic and much younger scripts, and that the mixture indicated a modern forgery.

On 27 April a report appeared on Yahoo via Associated Press that the Jordanian police had seized seven metal codices.[28] Further details appeared in the Jordan Times, with further claims.

In the July issue of Palestine Exploration Quarterly, Philip R. Davies published an editorial surveying some of the information surrounding the tablets, urging caution and the need for further investigation.

On 23 August, Prof. Jim Davila noted an anonymous Facebook post purporting to be from "the team" working on the codices alleging that their discoverer has claimed to have produced 500 forgeries in imitation of the "real" artifacts.

On 26 November 2012. BBC News conducted a short investigation about the authenticity of the codices. This was conducted as a short 13 minute segment of Inside Out West (26/11/12) accompanied by a written BBC News Article entitled "Jordan Codices 'expert' David Elkington's claims queried". The program initially focused on the codices authenticity with Dr Peter Thonemann again affirming that "I'm as certain as it is possible to be that this entire body of codices are modern fakes. I would stake my academic reputation on it" adding that "all of the codices that have appeared in the media in the past year or so are products of the same modern workshop — they’ve all sorts of similarities in style, fabric, and content it seems absolutely clear that every single one of these documents is a modern fake". A spokesman for the Israeli Antiquities Authority (IAA) noted "They were shown to experts on the period; all the experts absolutely doubted their authenticity." Author and metals expert Robert Feather was also skeptical.

The BBC Inside out program shifted focus onto whether David Elkington was the right person to be testing the authenticity of the codices analysing the true intentions, history and qualifications of "self styled" academic. It emerged that David Elkington is not an academic and has "No recognised qualifications in the field" although previously using the title of Professor. It also emerged that Elkington is "using the codices to raise money to support him in his work" from supporters including Princess Elizabeth of Yugoslavia who has donated tens of thousands of pounds to Elkington. It also stated that Elkington plans to release a book and create a film based upon the codices and that "over the years he’s taken thousands of pounds as investment to make a film based on his theories".

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Fantastic . . .

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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 39876736


Maybe this man does not want the truth known...many don't!
THERE'S A STORM COMING!!!
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W. Durant said..."A great civilization is not conquered from without until it has destroyed itself from within"...
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Not everyone will understand your journey...That's fine...It's not their journey to make sense of...IT'S YOURS!
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It is better to have a mind opened by wonder...Than one closed by belief
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To the mind that is still...The whole universe surrenders...
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Very cool.
In a time of universal deceit - telling the truth is a revolutionary act.
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The BBC Inside out program shifted focus onto whether David Elkington was the right person to be testing the authenticity of the codices analysing the true intentions, history and qualifications of "self styled" academic. It emerged that David Elkington is not an academic and has "No recognised qualifications in the field" although previously using the title of Professor. It also emerged that Elkington is "using the codices to raise money to support him in his work" from supporters including Princess Elizabeth of Yugoslavia who has donated tens of thousands of pounds to Elkington. It also stated that Elkington plans to release a book and create a film based upon the codices and that "over the years he’s taken thousands of pounds as investment to make a film based on his theories".

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Thanks SW...
THERE'S A STORM COMING!!!
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W. Durant said..."A great civilization is not conquered from without until it has destroyed itself from within"...
-------------------------------
Not everyone will understand your journey...That's fine...It's not their journey to make sense of...IT'S YOURS!
-----------------------------
It is better to have a mind opened by wonder...Than one closed by belief
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To the mind that is still...The whole universe surrenders...
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Author of The Soul Collector - 2011

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Fantastic . . .

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Thanky George!
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W. Durant said..."A great civilization is not conquered from without until it has destroyed itself from within"...
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Not everyone will understand your journey...That's fine...It's not their journey to make sense of...IT'S YOURS!
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It is better to have a mind opened by wonder...Than one closed by belief
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To the mind that is still...The whole universe surrenders...
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Author of The Soul Collector - 2011

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Very cool.
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They are interesting!
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W. Durant said..."A great civilization is not conquered from without until it has destroyed itself from within"...
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Not everyone will understand your journey...That's fine...It's not their journey to make sense of...IT'S YOURS!
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It is better to have a mind opened by wonder...Than one closed by belief
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To the mind that is still...The whole universe surrenders...
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Thanks; more reading to do!! peace
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Thanks; more reading to do!! peace
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Thank you!
THERE'S A STORM COMING!!!
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W. Durant said..."A great civilization is not conquered from without until it has destroyed itself from within"...
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Not everyone will understand your journey...That's fine...It's not their journey to make sense of...IT'S YOURS!
-----------------------------
It is better to have a mind opened by wonder...Than one closed by belief
---------------------------------
To the mind that is still...The whole universe surrenders...
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It would be really sweet if this was true but everywhere I look it looks to be fake.

Love the new avatar by the way!

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Maybe this man does not want the truth known...many don't!
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It's possible and I don't mean to be negative but a quick search throws up a lot of information discrediting the books.
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It would be really sweet if this was true but everywhere I look it looks to be fake.
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I feel it is only fake for the ones who want it to be...The truth of everything will be soon known the way things are going..
THERE'S A STORM COMING!!!
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W. Durant said..."A great civilization is not conquered from without until it has destroyed itself from within"...
-------------------------------
Not everyone will understand your journey...That's fine...It's not their journey to make sense of...IT'S YOURS!
-----------------------------
It is better to have a mind opened by wonder...Than one closed by belief
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To the mind that is still...The whole universe surrenders...
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"I shall walk uprightly"
In a time of universal deceit - telling the truth is a revolutionary act.
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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 39876736


Maybe this man does not want the truth known...many don't!
 Quoting: Settle4It


It's possible and I don't mean to be negative but a quick search throws up a lot of information discrediting the books.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 39876736


True it does...That is what makes one believe they are real deal...Why try so hard to discredit them if it were not something worth hiding?
THERE'S A STORM COMING!!!
-------------------------------
W. Durant said..."A great civilization is not conquered from without until it has destroyed itself from within"...
-------------------------------
Not everyone will understand your journey...That's fine...It's not their journey to make sense of...IT'S YOURS!
-----------------------------
It is better to have a mind opened by wonder...Than one closed by belief
---------------------------------
To the mind that is still...The whole universe surrenders...
-------------------------------------
Author of The Soul Collector - 2011

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