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If the Earth is Heliocentric, Birds and bugs would need to fly super fast to go anywhere.

 
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If the Earth is Heliocentric, Birds and bugs would need to fly super fast to go anywhere.
Not to mention the fact that all equations used by NASA for their satellites are geocentric based. Heliocentricity is a Satanic lie. The Bible describes Geocentricity as truth, and is proven right yet again.
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Re: If the Earth is Heliocentric, Birds and bugs would need to fly super fast to go anywhere.
U make no sense...
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Re: If the Earth is Heliocentric, Birds and bugs would need to fly super fast to go anywhere.
You can say words to make yourself feel better, but everything I have said is straight forward. If you can't understand it, I suggest you think about it for more than half a second.

In a Heliocentric model, the Earth moves much faster than a bug can fly straight. They would not be able to fly straight unless they are either flying incredibly fast, or are constantly changing their directions, which being a pilot, I can confirm that you do not need to do, especially when landing.

Heliocentricity cannot be proven, never has been proven, and even Einstein has been quoted to say that Geocentricity is just as plausible as Heliocentricity.

Academia teaches Evolution and Heliocentricity. Neither are true.

Praise YHVH and His absolute truth found in the KJV Bible.
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Re: If the Earth is Heliocentric, Birds and bugs would need to fly super fast to go anywhere.
Observing a Hummingbird crushes Heliocentricity.
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Re: If the Earth is Heliocentric, Birds and bugs would need to fly super fast to go anywhere.
What does Heliocentric have to do with the distance bird have to travel?

Earth's location relative to the sun and other planets means nothing to birds.
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Re: If the Earth is Heliocentric, Birds and bugs would need to fly super fast to go anywhere.
The Earth does not move, as per the word of God. Heliocentricity takes advantage of this idea that the Earth is not fixed to propagate a Pagan/Satanic idea that our solar system is anchored by the Sun.

We can easily observe that the Earth is in a fixed position, and never moves, and instead our solar system is Geocentric, as described by the Bible.
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Re: If the Earth is Heliocentric, Birds and bugs would need to fly super fast to go anywhere.
You can say words to make yourself feel better, but everything I have said is straight forward. If you can't understand it, I suggest you think about it for more than half a second.

In a Heliocentric model, the Earth moves much faster than a bug can fly straight. They would not be able to fly straight unless they are either flying incredibly fast, or are constantly changing their directions, which being a pilot, I can confirm that you do not need to do, especially when landing.

Heliocentricity cannot be proven, never has been proven, and even Einstein has been quoted to say that Geocentricity is just as plausible as Heliocentricity.

Academia teaches Evolution and Heliocentricity. Neither are true.

Praise YHVH and His absolute truth found in the KJV Bible.
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Relative motion.
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Relative motion while suspended in air huh? Are you pretending to not understand the idea that a hummingbird cannot maintain its position in the air and continue feeding off pollen without moving, as we can easily observe?
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Re: If the Earth is Heliocentric, Birds and bugs would need to fly super fast to go anywhere.
You can say words to make yourself feel better, but everything I have said is straight forward. If you can't understand it, I suggest you think about it for more than half a second.

In a Heliocentric model, the Earth moves much faster than a bug can fly straight. They would not be able to fly straight unless they are either flying incredibly fast, or are constantly changing their directions, which being a pilot, I can confirm that you do not need to do, especially when landing.

Heliocentricity cannot be proven, never has been proven, and even Einstein has been quoted to say that Geocentricity is just as plausible as Heliocentricity.

Academia teaches Evolution and Heliocentricity. Neither are true.

Praise YHVH and His absolute truth found in the KJV Bible.
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Well actually they are moving very fast.

Even I am moving very quickly right now, even though I am sitting down.

It's all about relativity; which if you REALLY knew anything about Einstein then you would know of his law of relativity that I am referring to.

[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]

"Measurements of various quantities are relative to the velocities of observers. "
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Re: If the Earth is Heliocentric, Birds and bugs would need to fly super fast to go anywhere.
The Earth does not move, as per the word of God. Heliocentricity takes advantage of this idea that the Earth is not fixed to propagate a Pagan/Satanic idea that our solar system is anchored by the Sun.

We can easily observe that the Earth is in a fixed position, and never moves, and instead our solar system is Geocentric, as described by the Bible.
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So you only believe in bible?
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Re: If the Earth is Heliocentric, Birds and bugs would need to fly super fast to go anywhere.
Relative motion while suspended in air huh? Are you pretending to not understand the idea that a hummingbird cannot maintain its position in the air and continue feeding off pollen without moving, as we can easily observe?
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Yes, relative motion while suspended in the air.
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Re: If the Earth is Heliocentric, Birds and bugs would need to fly super fast to go anywhere.
Yes, of course I only believe in the word of God.

The one True and Living God, YHVH. Jesus Christ, Yahshua HAMASHIAC.

Don't you?

Relative motion only exists if you are grounded. If you are in the air, you cannot maintain relative motion for very long.

You're thinking about throwing a ball in the air, you're not thinking about something that can suspend itself in the air indefinitely.
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Re: If the Earth is Heliocentric, Birds and bugs would need to fly super fast to go anywhere.
Yes, of course I only believe in the word of God.

The one True and Living God, YHVH. Jesus Christ, Yahshua HAMASHIAC.

Don't you?

Relative motion only exists if you are grounded. If you are in the air, you cannot maintain relative motion for very long.

You're thinking about throwing a ball in the air, you're not thinking about something that can suspend itself in the air indefinitely.
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Who says that relative motion only exists if you are grounded?
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Re: If the Earth is Heliocentric, Birds and bugs would need to fly super fast to go anywhere.
Relative velocity is significantly decreased when suspended in the air compared to when you are grounded.

As such, relative motion is not the same when comparing the Earth's alleged spin affect on a grounded object and one that can sustain its suspension in the air.

In essence, the suspended object is not being spun by the ground, and as such, SHOULD start to spin in the viewpoint of grounded objects.

This is not the case.

Why can helicopters maintain their position above the ground for extended periods of time without shifting in position? Relative motion would begin to rapidly decrease after the helicopter has left the ground
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Re: If the Earth is Heliocentric, Birds and bugs would need to fly super fast to go anywhere.
Relative velocity is significantly decreased when suspended in the air compared to when you are grounded.

As such, relative motion is not the same when comparing the Earth's alleged spin affect on a grounded object and one that can sustain its suspension in the air.

In essence, the suspended object is not being spun by the ground, and as such, SHOULD start to spin in the viewpoint of grounded objects.

This is not the case.

Why can helicopters maintain their position above the ground for extended periods of time without shifting in position? Relative motion would begin to rapidly decrease after the helicopter has left the ground
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So you say. But you've yet to explain why objects would stop moving relative to one another. An object in motion will remain in motion unless acted upon by another force. What force are you describing that would cease this relative motion?
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Re: If the Earth is Heliocentric, Birds and bugs would need to fly super fast to go anywhere.
The engine of the helicopter maintaining its position, or the wings of the hummingbird suspending both in place.
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Re: If the Earth is Heliocentric, Birds and bugs would need to fly super fast to go anywhere.
Not to mention friction and wind
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Re: If the Earth is Heliocentric, Birds and bugs would need to fly super fast to go anywhere.
OP is my new hero.They mocked Copernicus,they mocked Dylan when he went electric,they mocked me when I shit myself at primary school.
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Re: If the Earth is Heliocentric, Birds and bugs would need to fly super fast to go anywhere.
The engine of the helicopter maintaining its position, or the wings of the hummingbird suspending both in place.
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Take your retarded as fuck theory and try to explain how a housefly can buzz around the interior of a 747 that is traveling at 700mph.
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Re: If the Earth is Heliocentric, Birds and bugs would need to fly super fast to go anywhere.
Have the days of Punishment returned?

:)
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Re: If the Earth is Heliocentric, Birds and bugs would need to fly super fast to go anywhere.
You can say words to make yourself feel better, but everything I have said is straight forward. If you can't understand it, I suggest you think about it for more than half a second.

In a Heliocentric model, the Earth moves much faster than a bug can fly straight. They would not be able to fly straight unless they are either flying incredibly fast, or are constantly changing their directions, which being a pilot, I can confirm that you do not need to do, especially when landing.

Heliocentricity cannot be proven, never has been proven, and even Einstein has been quoted to say that Geocentricity is just as plausible as Heliocentricity.

Academia teaches Evolution and Heliocentricity. Neither are true.

Praise YHVH and His absolute truth found in the KJV Bible.
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Can't tell if OP is genius troll or retard
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Re: If the Earth is Heliocentric, Birds and bugs would need to fly super fast to go anywhere.
You can say words to make yourself feel better, but everything I have said is straight forward. If you can't understand it, I suggest you think about it for more than half a second.

In a Heliocentric model, the Earth moves much faster than a bug can fly straight. They would not be able to fly straight unless they are either flying incredibly fast, or are constantly changing their directions, which being a pilot, I can confirm that you do not need to do, especially when landing.

Heliocentricity cannot be proven, never has been proven, and even Einstein has been quoted to say that Geocentricity is just as plausible as Heliocentricity.

Academia teaches Evolution and Heliocentricity. Neither are true.

Praise YHVH and His absolute truth found in the KJV Bible.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 39892310


Can't tell if OP is genius troll or retard
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Same,was just questioning my own sanity.
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Re: If the Earth is Heliocentric, Birds and bugs would need to fly super fast to go anywhere.
Does a fly not touch the plane at all?

If it does not, it would eventually splatter, but as soon as it touches the plane, it will begin to gain relative velocity again.

You need to learn to think logically and not let your emotions get in the way of your logic.

NASA uses geocentric equations. You have no idea what you are arguing.
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Re: If the Earth is Heliocentric, Birds and bugs would need to fly super fast to go anywhere.
Not to mention the fact that all equations used by NASA for their satellites are geocentric based. Heliocentricity is a Satanic lie. The Bible describes Geocentricity as truth, and is proven right yet again.
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you just went full retard.
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Re: If the Earth is Heliocentric, Birds and bugs would need to fly super fast to go anywhere.
Throwing around insults does not change the fact that you have fails to refute me.

Maybe it makes you feel better, but logic prevails against emotion all the time.
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Re: If the Earth is Heliocentric, Birds and bugs would need to fly super fast to go anywhere.
Does a fly not touch the plane at all?

If it does not, it would eventually splatter, but as soon as it touches the plane, it will begin to gain relative velocity again.

You need to learn to think logically and not let your emotions get in the way of your logic.

NASA uses geocentric equations. You have no idea what you are arguing.
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So the fly does maintain relative motion, and therefore doesn't need to fly "super fast" and therefore you are dumb as hell.
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Re: If the Earth is Heliocentric, Birds and bugs would need to fly super fast to go anywhere.
Btw the environment inside the plane is moving faster than the environment outside the plane. The plane is airtight, and as such, the air inside is moving relatively faster as well.

The only people insane here are those who think you can remain suspended in the air and touch down on the same spot of Earth days later if you believe the Earth spins at thousands of mph.
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For satellites orbiting the earth.... I'm sure they use different equations for stuff that's not orbiting EARTH!!!
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Re: If the Earth is Heliocentric, Birds and bugs would need to fly super fast to go anywhere.
Btw the environment inside the plane is moving faster than the environment outside the plane. The plane is airtight, and as such, the air inside is moving relatively faster as well.

The only people insane here are those who think you can remain suspended in the air and touch down on the same spot of Earth days later if you believe the Earth spins at thousands of mph.
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Unless acted upon by another force, yes, they will maintain their relative position to the earth.
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Re: If the Earth is Heliocentric, Birds and bugs would need to fly super fast to go anywhere.
Weak rhetoric.

The fly loses relative velocity, but as soon as it touches the plane, it will pick up speed again.

You are not comprehending the argument and are saying words not replace by to my rebuttals.
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Re: If the Earth is Heliocentric, Birds and bugs would need to fly super fast to go anywhere.
Do you people not believe in air friction?

How could something maintain its position with friction?

Why has it never been demonstrated that something that can suspend itself in the air has moved a considerable distance after a long amount of time? Helicopters could easily demonstrate this, but they fail to.

Friction exists. That is an opposite force

I have already addressed this, and you have ignored it.

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