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White House Releases Benghazi Emails

 
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White House Releases Benghazi Emails
WASHINGTON—The White House succumbed to mounting pressure Wednesday and decided to publicly release the chain of administration emails surrounding the controversial Benghazi talking points.

The move came a week after public interest in last year's terror attack unexpectedly rebounded with testimony by three State Department employees that reopened lingering questions about the assault. The documents were being released late Wednesday afternoon.

While many of the emails have already leaked out, the release of the complete set of communications paints a fuller picture of an administration struggling with how much to disclose about an attack that eight months later remains a focus of partisan division.

The decision to release them represented a major shift that officials hope will tamp down the controversy. Administration lawyers for months had rebuffed calls to hand over the emails on the grounds the exchanges were part of internal administration deliberations.

But administration officials have complained that congressional Republicans in recent days have been leaking selective excerpts from the emails to buttress their argument that the talking points were manipulated for political purposes.

Even with the release of the emails, however, Republicans have made clear they have outstanding unanswered questions, including how the independent Accountability Review Board conducted its investigation of the attacks last year.

The talking points, drafted at the request of key lawmakers, were meant to provide a first public account of the Sept. 11, 2012, attacks on U.S. posts in Benghazi, Libya, that claimed the lives of U.S. Ambassador Christopher Stevens and three other Americans.

The talking points were drafted by the Central Intelligence Agency and then heavily edited during a more than daylong email debate among more than two dozen intelligence and administration officials.

The final product made no reference to al Qaeda, despite secret intelligence at the time pointing to the involvement of al Qaeda-linked militants. The talking points also contained an assertion that the administration later acknowledged was false—that the attack in Benghazi sprung out of a protest.

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I'm sure they have been edited lol
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I'm sure they have been edited lol
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Why do we care about the talking points?

Why aren't we caring more about the "stand down" order?
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They will be fabricated just like the birth certificate. Right?! RIGHT?!
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Why do we care about the talking points?

Why aren't we caring more about the "stand down" order?
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Indeed!
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Why do we care about the talking points?

Why aren't we caring more about the "stand down" order?
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They will be fabricated just like the birth certificate. Right?! RIGHT?!
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Right. Unless leaked or snuck out, don't buy the little "admissions" crap like this appears to "released".

How many months will pass before docs about IRS/AP scandals surface? 2014?
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...out of what, thousands? Tens of thousands? I'm sure we got the cherry ones
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Well, can you hear them now? Okay, we're finished editing them, release the emails now!
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Well, can you hear them now? Okay, we're finished editing them, release the emails now!
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That's probably EXACTLY how it went down
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Here they are: dig in...
[link to reuters.tumblr.com]

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100 e-mails? Really? I get that many a day at work. Just the 100 that won't mean a thing.
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p. 46 smoking gun
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Here they are: dig in...
[link to reuters.tumblr.com]
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Thanks for that link!!!
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p. 46 a smoking gun
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Page 51: I agree with Toria. The last bullett will especially read to members like we have repeatedly been warned.

....and lmao at the "fingering" comment further down that same page
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Page 63- look at all the things to be removed!!!
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Go to page 62.

[link to reuters.tumblr.com]


Look at what was crossed out. Edited out because they didn't want it to be used as talking points for use with media.

Specifically the first crossed out line: they were warned on September 10.

CLEARLY states.
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Well I have skimmed through and see nothing about a film, Mohammad or anti-Islamic.

I see they were warned on Sept 10 about future attacks and I notice that the attachments are missing. I need to go get a list of the HPSCI
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page 93:

. HPSCI request: Late this week, CIA Director Petraeus gave the HPSCI a "hots spots" briefing and was asked for unclassified talking points that its members could use about incident in Benghazi. (Apparently NCTC Director Matt Olsen received a similar committee from a congressional committee.) The first draft apparently seemed unsuitable (based on conversations with SVTS and afterwards) because they seemed to encourage the reader to infer incorrectly that the CIA had warned about a specific attack on our embassy. <snip> noted that these points were not good and he had taken a heavy editing hand to them. etc etc etc....

Incorrectly, hmmm? I believe it specifically said they were warned of it the day before - that there was talk of protests and infiltration of the embassy. It was very clearly stated. How can it be read "incorrectly"???
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Well I have skimmed through and see nothing about a film, Mohammad or anti-Islamic.

I see they were warned on Sept 10 about future attacks and I notice that the attachments are missing. I need to go get a list of the HPSCI
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It'll take some work to get through all the editing, but yeah - they were warned.
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They could just easily edit out whatever they don't want you to see..
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White House Releases Complete Benghazi Emails

Karl's account includes this important passage:

"In an email dated 9/14/12 at 9:34 p.m. — three days after the attack and two days before Ambassador Rice appeared on the Sunday shows — Deputy National Security Advisor Ben Rhodes wrote an email saying the State Department's concerns needed to be addressed. 'We must make sure that the talking points reflect all agency equities, including those of the State Department, and we don't want to undermine the FBI investigation,' [Karl quoted Rhodes as saying]. We thus will work through the talking points tomorrow morning at the Deputies Committee meeting.' "

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These e-mails were for the 14 & 15. That is Friday and Saturday.
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Something I notice right away is the distinct lack of FBI input in this e-mail chain, despite the FBI being the lead investigator.

Basically the only mention of the FBI is on page 56, where it says that the FBI's working theory was that the attack was carried about by Al-Qaeda.

Gee, I wonder why the FBI's e-mails weren't released...
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It's also extremely clear that the State Department (Nuland, Rhodes, Sullivan) were the ones driving all the edits. At one point someone with the CIA expresses frustration that the State Dept. seems to have issues with almost the entire set of talking points.
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Something I notice right away is the distinct lack of FBI input in this e-mail chain, despite the FBI being the lead investigator.

Basically the only mention of the FBI is on page 56, where it says that the FBI's working theory was that the attack was carried about by Al-Qaeda.

Gee, I wonder why the FBI's e-mails weren't released...
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CIA would be in charge because is was not on American soil. Doesn't the FBI mainly deal with issues that happen in country?
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Notice the people that are no longer with the administration that would have been privy to these e-mails. Petraus and Clinton. These e-mails show the true story but that is not what was spouted on the Sunday talk shows.
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Something I notice right away is the distinct lack of FBI input in this e-mail chain, despite the FBI being the lead investigator.

Basically the only mention of the FBI is on page 56, where it says that the FBI's working theory was that the attack was carried about by Al-Qaeda.

Gee, I wonder why the FBI's e-mails weren't released...
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CIA would be in charge because is was not on American soil. Doesn't the FBI mainly deal with issues that happen in country?
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No, FBI was lead.
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Something I notice right away is the distinct lack of FBI input in this e-mail chain, despite the FBI being the lead investigator.

Basically the only mention of the FBI is on page 56, where it says that the FBI's working theory was that the attack was carried about by Al-Qaeda.

Gee, I wonder why the FBI's e-mails weren't released...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6297881

CIA would be in charge because is was not on American soil. Doesn't the FBI mainly deal with issues that happen in country?
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No, FBI was lead.
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and Susan Rice admitted as much on each of the five sunday shows she went on. FBI was lead. Yet, according to this e-mail chain, the FBI was basically completely cut out of the loop and their theory that it was Al-Qaeda was totally ignored.

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