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Rickster58 User ID: 9765814 Australia 05/16/2013 01:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Arthur C Clarke Quoting: Anonymous Coward 987367 "Mankinds fate is to die amongst his own refuse." Women in Australia are recording massice amounts of Be-7 in their hair, as it is coming down from the rain water. Source? Boron added to the Fukushima cores. Got any proof of that claim mate? A link would be appreciated. |
Jknoph User ID: 1284970 United States 05/16/2013 01:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Saaaay - a quick calculation - if 30 CPM is normal background which is 0.1 microSieverts per hour. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 987367 170,000 CPM is 5600 microSieverts per hour*, assuming that the meter is not overloaded? Who knows? 1 mm Al attenuates some betas, but produces Bremstrahlung x rays .... hence the lower reading ... You get the picture. Ughhh 5600microS? That yields a 560mRem/hr point source? That guy might want to leave that area. 4 hours would put you over the legal limit of 2rem/yr. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 14795501 United States 05/16/2013 01:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Someone give me the idiot's explanation of what I just watched. Lots of radiation, somewhere in Japan, we're all gonna die. Anything else? Quoting: ssle The idiots explanation is that we don't know the correct condition of the meters, are they working correct, where was this black stuff at, could this guy be pulling our leg, why has not thousands of Japanese people died from this yet, why has the video makers dick not fallen off yet, why is my sea food safe, why has CNN not reported this.. I call BS on this.. Its safe to go back into the water GLP.. |
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GFX guy User ID: 9776422 United States 05/16/2013 02:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Someone give me the idiot's explanation of what I just watched. Lots of radiation, somewhere in Japan, we're all gonna die. Anything else? Quoting: ssle The idiots explanation is that we don't know the correct condition of the meters, are they working correct, where was this black stuff at, could this guy be pulling our leg, why has not thousands of Japanese people died from this yet, why has the video makers dick not fallen off yet, why is my sea food safe, why has CNN not reported this.. I call BS on this.. Its safe to go back into the water GLP.. He did a control test in the video. CNN..? Enjoy your seafood. |
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Citizenperth User ID: 39052568 Australia 05/16/2013 02:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Someone asked where this was taken - If I remember correctly, that black sediment has settled over areas of Japan, no? Quoting: Geo777 Minamisota The date range is accurate as I have a colleague in France with access to their data, and she's a wiz' at the graph compilations It's life as we know it, but only just. [link to citizenperth.wordpress.com] sic ut vos es vos should exsisto , denego alius vicis facio vos change , exsisto youself , proprie |
Charets Syndrome User ID: 10009864 Canada 05/16/2013 02:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Someone asked where this was taken - If I remember correctly, that black sediment has settled over areas of Japan, no? Quoting: Geo777 Yes correct... Look it up... It's like a black/blue algae... And it really likes to eat/collect radiation... I think it's like some sort of microbe that eats the radiation out of the air or rain and then grows.... I didn't believe it at first but I just checked a ton of stuff out and I'd say this is legit.... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 14795501 United States 05/16/2013 02:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Someone asked where this was taken - If I remember correctly, that black sediment has settled over areas of Japan, no? Quoting: Geo777 Yes correct... Look it up... It's like a black/blue algae... And it really likes to eat/collect radiation... I think it's like some sort of microbe that eats the radiation out of the air or rain and then grows.... I didn't believe it at first but I just checked a ton of stuff out and I'd say this is legit.... Well than the doom is over folks, we have black algae that eats radiation, the world is now safe.. |
Ozi User ID: 39905860 Australia 05/16/2013 02:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How is this doom exactly? Not like its a harmful amount of radiation. With readings like this, it would take like 25,000 days of constant exposure before 1 in 1000 ppl could develop cancer. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 39639944 is this what you used to get to your 25000 days? Radiation dose for increase cancer risk of 1 in a 1,000 1,250 milliRem (mRem) 12.5 milliSievert (mSv) Earliest onset of radiation sickness 75,000 milliRem (mRem) 750 milliSievert (mSv) Onset of radiation poisoning 300,000 milliRem (mRem) 3,000 milliSievert (mSv) Expected 50% death from radiation 400,000 milliRem (mRem) 4,000 milliSievert (mSv) Measuring Radiation with a Geiger Counter CPM What is CPM (also the ‘number’ used on the Radiation Network )? CPM (counts per minute) is a measure of radioactivity, a unit of measurement for a Geiger counter. Technically, “It is the number of atoms in a given quantity of radioactive material that are detected to have decayed in one minute.” Most Geiger counters are calibrated to Cs137 (Cesium). 1,200 CPM on the meter (for Cs137) is about 1 mR/hr (milliRad per hour). 120 CPM on the meter (for Cs137) is about 1 uSv/hr (microSievert per hour). |
Citizenperth User ID: 39052568 Australia 05/16/2013 02:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How is this doom exactly? Not like its a harmful amount of radiation. With readings like this, it would take like 25,000 days of constant exposure before 1 in 1000 ppl could develop cancer. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 39639944 is this what you used to get to your 25000 days? Radiation dose for increase cancer risk of 1 in a 1,000 1,250 milliRem (mRem) 12.5 milliSievert (mSv) Earliest onset of radiation sickness 75,000 milliRem (mRem) 750 milliSievert (mSv) Onset of radiation poisoning 300,000 milliRem (mRem) 3,000 milliSievert (mSv) Expected 50% death from radiation 400,000 milliRem (mRem) 4,000 milliSievert (mSv) Measuring Radiation with a Geiger Counter CPM What is CPM (also the ‘number’ used on the Radiation Network )? CPM (counts per minute) is a measure of radioactivity, a unit of measurement for a Geiger counter. Technically, “It is the number of atoms in a given quantity of radioactive material that are detected to have decayed in one minute.” Most Geiger counters are calibrated to Cs137 (Cesium). 1,200 CPM on the meter (for Cs137) is about 1 mR/hr (milliRad per hour). 120 CPM on the meter (for Cs137) is about 1 uSv/hr (microSievert per hour). he's measuring inside his lead lined bunker........... It's life as we know it, but only just. [link to citizenperth.wordpress.com] sic ut vos es vos should exsisto , denego alius vicis facio vos change , exsisto youself , proprie |
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Ozi User ID: 39905860 Australia 05/16/2013 02:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Someone asked where this was taken - If I remember correctly, that black sediment has settled over areas of Japan, no? Quoting: Geo777 Yes correct... Look it up... It's like a black/blue algae... And it really likes to eat/collect radiation... I think it's like some sort of microbe that eats the radiation out of the air or rain and then grows.... I didn't believe it at first but I just checked a ton of stuff out and I'd say this is legit.... Well than the doom is over folks, we have black algae that eats radiation, the world is now safe.. What else does it eat and what eats it? is the important q? here. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 52191 United States 05/16/2013 02:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What are acceptable levels? Could someone please give a quick style radiation course for dummies? Quoting: Clovis Most excellent question. To convert from counts per minute (CPM) to milli-Roentgen/hr (mR/hr) you have to make some assumptions. Assuming a Cesium 137 sensitivity conversion, 1,200 CPM = 1 mR/hr. So... the immediate danger threshold is between 50 and 100 Rads. That's when you start loosing your cookies and hair. We saw 165,000 CPM in the video. That's 137 mR/hr or 0.12 Rads per hour. At that rate you would reach the 50 Rad zone in 17 days. You would reach your average yearly exposure in 3 hours. This Fukushima disaster is serious business, and I wonder if large parts of Japan will be inhabitable from a generational standpoint. More bad news: Internal exposure to hot particules is estimated to be 300 - 500x more damaging than external exposure. From Modern Survival Blog: [link to modernsurvivalblog.com] "Days compared with the avg. annual human exposure (U.S.) 207 (at 100 CPM) 42 (at 500 CPM) 14 (at 1,500 CPM) 2 (at 10,000 CPM) Days to receive dose for increase cancer risk of 1 in a 1,000 432 (at 100 CPM) 86 (at 500 CPM) 28 (at 1,500 CPM) 4 (at 10,000 CPM) Days for earliest onset of radiation sickness 25,937 (at 100 CPM) 5,187 (at 500 CPM) 1,729 (at 1,500 CPM) 259 (at 10,000 CPM)" |
EscapeVelocity User ID: 20982283 United States 05/16/2013 02:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 100 cpm of radiation is danger / alert level. Whoever filmed this is probly going to die soon. Just FYI, you get over 500+ CPM on any commercial flight.. Make it a long trip, and the exposure is much more. But 170K CPM is *about* 63 mR/Hr or... Your total amount received in ONE YEAR from normal background... In just three hours. It's no wonder everybody I know has their hair falling out. "I know that the molecules in my body are traceable to phenomena in the cosmos. That makes me want to grab people on the street and say: 'Have you HEARD THIS?" -Neil deGrasse Tyson :fly_sail: If you hate my avatar.. you are going to love this.. [link to youtu.be] In Death members of Project Mayhem Have a name. His name is James M. Boyd. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1153672 United States 05/16/2013 02:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 6000 cpm = drop dead on the spot Also, the meter jumps from 6000 cpm to 60? Dude was messing with it. Even at 60cpm, which is probably typical for Japan, both meters don't match up. Next would be, what were they set on? beta? Gamma? Alpha? Old CDV-700s dont lie. Better yet, they were made in AMERICA. Chinese stuff is junk in my opinion. Good for a BU...if that. Rather have two CDV-700. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 52191 United States 05/16/2013 02:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 100 cpm of radiation is danger / alert level. Whoever filmed this is probly going to die soon. Just FYI, you get over 500+ CPM on any commercial flight.. Make it a long trip, and the exposure is much more. But 170K CPM is *about* 63 mR/Hr or... Your total amount received in ONE YEAR from normal background... In just three hours. It's no wonder everybody I know has their hair falling out. I've wondered that myself about the hair loss I've seen - not only in myself but my friends. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1153672 United States 05/16/2013 02:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 100 cpm of radiation is danger / alert level. Whoever filmed this is probly going to die soon. Just FYI, you get over 500+ CPM on any commercial flight.. Make it a long trip, and the exposure is much more. But 170K CPM is *about* 63 mR/Hr or... Your total amount received in ONE YEAR from normal background... In just three hours. It's no wonder everybody I know has their hair falling out. do you mean .500 cpm? Continual 500cpm would mean death. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 52191 United States 05/16/2013 02:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 6000 cpm = drop dead on the spot Also, the meter jumps from 6000 cpm to 60? Dude was messing with it. Even at 60cpm, which is probably typical for Japan, both meters don't match up. Next would be, what were they set on? beta? Gamma? Alpha? Old CDV-700s dont lie. Better yet, they were made in AMERICA. Chinese stuff is junk in my opinion. Good for a BU...if that. Rather have two CDV-700. No, 6000 CPM won't kill you on the spot. Try a billions of CPM - like Chernobyl. Didn't see any evidence he was messing with the counter. The closer he got to the black stuff the worse it was. |
EscapeVelocity User ID: 20982283 United States 05/16/2013 02:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 6000 cpm = drop dead on the spot Also, the meter jumps from 6000 cpm to 60? Dude was messing with it. Even at 60cpm, which is probably typical for Japan, both meters don't match up. Next would be, what were they set on? beta? Gamma? Alpha? Old CDV-700s dont lie. Better yet, they were made in AMERICA. Chinese stuff is junk in my opinion. Good for a BU...if that. Rather have two CDV-700. Workers and researchers have worked (very briefly) in areas of 5-10 thousand R/h That's Roentgens Per Hour (far beyond what can be registered within scale on this detector) Many are still alive today. Exposure Time, distance from source, cumulative dose, dose localization, internal ingestion from particulate matter or via foodstuffs all must be taken into consideration. I'm not trying to make less of what is shown here.. I would be making this video with a respirator, covers and at the end of a long stick to be sure. Just helps to have context. Thanks! "I know that the molecules in my body are traceable to phenomena in the cosmos. That makes me want to grab people on the street and say: 'Have you HEARD THIS?" -Neil deGrasse Tyson :fly_sail: If you hate my avatar.. you are going to love this.. [link to youtu.be] In Death members of Project Mayhem Have a name. His name is James M. Boyd. |
Citizenperth User ID: 39052568 Australia 05/16/2013 02:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 6000 cpm = drop dead on the spot Also, the meter jumps from 6000 cpm to 60? Dude was messing with it. Even at 60cpm, which is probably typical for Japan, both meters don't match up. Next would be, what were they set on? beta? Gamma? Alpha? Old CDV-700s dont lie. Better yet, they were made in AMERICA. Chinese stuff is junk in my opinion. Good for a BU...if that. Rather have two CDV-700. No, 6000 CPM won't kill you on the spot. Try a billions of CPM - like Chernobyl. Didn't see any evidence he was messing with the counter. The closer he got to the black stuff the worse it was. The black masses have been reported for at least two years... they get hushed pretty quickly, I counted about 60 reports I have archived alone... and they were the serious ones... It's life as we know it, but only just. [link to citizenperth.wordpress.com] sic ut vos es vos should exsisto , denego alius vicis facio vos change , exsisto youself , proprie |
EscapeVelocity User ID: 20982283 United States 05/16/2013 02:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 100 cpm of radiation is danger / alert level. Whoever filmed this is probly going to die soon. Just FYI, you get over 500+ CPM on any commercial flight.. Make it a long trip, and the exposure is much more. But 170K CPM is *about* 63 mR/Hr or... Your total amount received in ONE YEAR from normal background... In just three hours. It's no wonder everybody I know has their hair falling out. do you mean .500 cpm? Continual 500cpm would mean death. No, my PRM8000 goes into the 700 CPM range when flying to Korea.. This is *the new* normal. "do you mean .500 cpm" CPM is a measure of Counts Per Min, it cannot be expressed as a floating point number.. it is an absolute whole number. 500 CPM means that the pancake or tube registered 8.3 particles impacting the detector's sensor every second. Last Edited by EscapeVelocity on 05/16/2013 02:39 AM "I know that the molecules in my body are traceable to phenomena in the cosmos. That makes me want to grab people on the street and say: 'Have you HEARD THIS?" -Neil deGrasse Tyson :fly_sail: If you hate my avatar.. you are going to love this.. [link to youtu.be] In Death members of Project Mayhem Have a name. His name is James M. Boyd. |
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Patient.Zer0 User ID: 1534311 United States 05/16/2013 02:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ummmm...did anyone notice that this dill-tard calibrated the unit while over whatever this source was? Don't ya think that might have something to do with it.......? "It doesn't matter how beautiful your theory is, it doesn't matter how smart you are. If it doesn't agree with experiment, it's wrong." Richard P. Feynman |
Charets Syndrome User ID: 10009864 Canada 05/16/2013 02:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So basically, this black stuff is 'live' and spreading Cesium in a sense? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33464940 No I think it is just a visible sign that this radioactive stuff is out there... I I don't think it's spreading anything... Rather containing it and using its energy to grow??? Just my thoughts on it tho |
Charets Syndrome User ID: 10009864 Canada 05/16/2013 02:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ummmm...did anyone notice that this dill-tard calibrated the unit while over whatever this source was? Quoting: Patient.Zer0 Don't ya think that might have something to do with it.......? So if ur saying if I was testing in a nuke plant or something and I accidentally turned off the machine.... I would have to leave the plant just to turn the device back on??? I don't think so |