LBJ,, Israel, and the USS Liberty

Hey FOTN, aren't you a bit obsessed with Davvi ?

How about you get a life and stop blaming the Jews for everything !?

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Jewish History, Jewish Religion
The Weight of Three Thousand Years

Israel Shahak 1997 (a jew)

Attitudes to Christianity and Islam

"IN THE FOREGOING, several examples of the rabbinical attitudes to these two religions were given in passing. But it will be useful to summarize these attitudes here.

Judaism is imbued with a very deep hatred towards Christianity, combined with ignorance about it. This attitude was clearly aggravated by the Christian persecutions of Jews, but is largely independent of them. In fact, it dates from the time when Christianity was still weak and persecuted (not least by Jews), and it was shared by Jews who had never been persecuted by Christians or who were even helped by them. Thus, Maimonides was subjected to Muslim persecutions by the regime of the Almohads and escaped from them first to the crusaders' Kingdom of Jerusalem, but this did not change his views in the least. This deeply negative attitude is based on two main elements.

First, on hatred and malicious slanders against Jesus. The traditional view of Judaism on Jesus must of course be sharply distinguished from the nonsensical controversy between antisemites and Jewish apologists concerning the 'responsibility' for his execution. Most modern scholars of that period admit that due to the lack of original and contemporary accounts, the late composition of the Gospels and the contradictions between them, accurate historical knowledge of the circumstances of Jesus' execution is not available. In any case, the notion of collective and inherited guilt is both wicked and absurd. However, what is at issue here is not the actual facts about Jesus, but the inaccurate and even slanderous reports in the Talmud and post-talmudic literature - which is what Jews believed until the 19th century and many, especially in Israel, still believe. For these reports certainly played an important role in forming the Jewish attitude to Christianity."


Last Edited by Pyractomena borealis on 05/16/2013 03:56 PM

Look I despise the British and the Australians and the Canadians too, and they hate us and I have no problem with that. They are allies if you want to call them that, so why would I as an American I would not go out of my way to make an enemy of them? I apply that same logic to the Liberty story. What purpose would it serve this fledgling nation to make an enemy of the American people at such a critical time in their beginning?

I know that muzz are desperate to come between the US and Israel, but surely if you have any common sense you will see how foolish an action like this would have been for Israel?

FOTN has it right.

[link to rense.com]

On June 8, 1967, 34 American sailors of the USS Liberty lost their lives serving their country. These Americans died when Israel, America's "ally," launched a murderous attack on the virtually unarmed American intelligence ship. To this day, many Americans are unaware that this attack even took place. Recently, PRAVDA.Ru had the opportunity to interview Mr. Hrankowski, a survivor and crew member of the USS Liberty.

Could you please tell me what an unarmed ship was doing in the middle of a war zone?

The ship was 250 miles away from its last known position, why?

I would really like to know why this storey hasn't become a national rally cry? Why aren't all Americans demanding the truth? The official storey is obviously bullshit, so why are we still paying Israel to act like a friend?

further information in this BBC produced documentary:

During the Six-Day War, Israel attacked and nearly sank the USS Liberty belonging to its closest ally, the USA. Thirty-four American servicemen were killed in the two-hour assault by Israeli warplanes and torpedo boats. Israel claimed that the whole affair had been a tragic accident based on mistaken identification of the ship. The American government accepted the explanation.

For more than 30 years many people have disbelieved the official explanation but have been unable to rebut it convincingly. Now, Dead in the Water uses startling new evidence to reveal the truth behind the seemingly inexplicable attack. The film combines dramatic reconstruction of the events, with new access to former officers in the US and Israeli armed forces and intelligence services who have decided to give their own version of events.

This event was an accident. Are really going to carry muzz water for them and act butt-hurt about it now?

It was in INTERNATIONAL WATERS!

DO YOU GET IT YET???

Oh the BBC, because there is an unbiased source...LOL, no thanks I don't trust anything which come from you...

YOU despise, I do not.

I love...
Even the Israelis......they are brainwashed, hence "The Weight of Three Thousand Years".

LBJ was a psychopathic, murdering piece of shit. Kennedy had his flaws, but he knew the real Johnson and what he was, and what he was capable of.

And what a bullshit story the Israelis put out.

LBJ was a psychopathic, murdering piece of shit. Kennedy had his flaws, but he knew the real Johnson and what he was, and what he was capable of.

And what a bullshit story the Israelis put out.

Because for years most of the time anybody who has talked about it has been shut down. They own the media/airwaves. And your typical christian has been brainwashed that those people are "God's chosen". I could go on and on...

what do you consider an unbiased source? B'nai_B'rith did not investigate the matter.

it was meant to be blamed on Egypt, same as the lavon affair look that up they admitted in their front page, they had to when a bomb went off prematurely, in the possession of a massad agent dressed as a arab.. theres your answer look it up before commenting further.

The "wedge" is Jesus

See the Murder USA Military Boys(USS LIBERTY):
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When they Rule The World :
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Mysterious Deaths of 9/11 Witnesses (MUST SEE) :
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Israel launches new missile that can reach New York and Tokyo
03.11.2011 | Source: Pravda.Ru
[link to english.pravda.ru]

Six Jewish Companies Control 96% Of The World’s Media

“You know very well, and the stupid Americans know equally well, that we control their government, irrespective of who sits in the White House. You see, I know it and you know it that no American president can be in a position to challenge us even if we do the unthinkable. What can they (Americans) do to us? We control congress, we control the media, we control show biz, and we control everything in America. In America you can criticize God, but you can’t criticize Israel…” Israeli spokeswoman, Tzipora Menache

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LBJ wanted it so....they were sucking his dick so they would keep getting the outrageous funding they get.....They fucking killed Americans......the truth hurts don't it

Durrrr...because all ships in the conflict stayed in national waters.

It was right off the coast of Egypt you dumb fucking shit - during an active conflict in Egypt.

You act like it was far away by saying "international waters" when it could've landed in Egypt in an hour.

But hey, according to your dumbass all someone in a war has to do is point their boats away from coastlines for an hour (or less) and then nobody would be allowed to attack them because they are in "international waters."

Uh oh, link not working, they're controlling that too, apparently.

I disagree with Davvi on the Liberty being an accident (too much evidence to the contrary), but I respect him/her holding to their convictions without resorting to inane flaming. Got to give Davvi props for that no matter where you stand on the issue.

Thermonuclear Blackmail Of America:
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For THOSE WHO Remember the USSLIBERTY

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Last Edited by Anubis on 05/16/2013 04:23 PM