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MOSES WONDERING IN THE DESERT FOR 40 YEARS??? HOW STUPID IS THAT??

 
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MOSES WONDERING IN THE DESERT FOR 40 YEARS??? HOW STUPID IS THAT??
I find the whole story of Moses totally bizarre and I am astounded how people can still believe it even in today's modern times of great knowledge and technology.

so Moses crossed the red sea with the Egyptian army in hot pursuit... and got to the other side and got stuck in the desert and in the wilderness of the Sinai region.

so why in god's heaven stay there for 40 years???
was he stuck at the crossroads with a red traffic light and waited to change green??

Palestine would have been only maybe 7 days walk away....so why stay there for 40 years???
and why did his followers also stay there without moving on??
how could they eat manna for 40 years x 3 times a day???
how bizarre is that??
but why no one questions the veracity of this implausible story?

I would have gone shopping in Jerusalem after only 4 days in the desert...but 40 years???

that's the whole life of those people totally wasted.

and then , after all that...Yahweeh god killed Moses without letting him see the promised land??
why??
how cruel and stupid is this story?
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Not as stupid as your spelling.

It's "wandering".
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I find the whole story of Moses totally bizarre and I am astounded how people can still believe it even in today's modern times of great knowledge and technology.

so Moses crossed the red sea with the Egyptian army in hot pursuit... and got to the other side and got stuck in the desert and in the wilderness of the Sinai region.

so why in god's heaven stay there for 40 years???
was he stuck at the crossroads with a red traffic light and waited to change green??

Palestine would have been only maybe 7 days walk away....so why stay there for 40 years???
and why did his followers also stay there without moving on??
how could they eat manna for 40 years x 3 times a day???
how bizarre is that??
but why no one questions the veracity of this implausible story?

I would have gone shopping in Jerusalem after only 4 days in the desert...but 40 years???

that's the whole life of those people totally wasted.

and then , after all that...Yahweeh god killed Moses without letting him see the promised land??
why??
how cruel and stupid is this story?
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It is a historic fact sheep shagger
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I wandered around my yard for almost a week looking for my house?!!?dasbier

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Re: MOSES WONDERING IN THE DESERT FOR 40 YEARS??? HOW STUPID IS THAT??
Who told you that the bible should be read literally?
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Not as stupid as your spelling.

It's "wandering".
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Not as stupid as your spelling.

It's "wandering".
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NO, he was wondering why the hell he didn't stay in Egypt,?
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Not as stupid as your spelling.

It's "wandering".
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NO, he was wondering why the hell he didn't stay in Egypt,?
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No, you were wondering why you started this idiotic thread.
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I believe "40 years" similar to 40 days and nights of rain, is a unit of measure used to explain "a very long time". Not nessesarily 40 actual years.
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Re: MOSES WONDERING IN THE DESERT FOR 40 YEARS??? HOW STUPID IS THAT??
I find the whole story of Moses totally bizarre and I am astounded how people can still believe it even in today's modern times of great knowledge and technology.

so Moses crossed the red sea with the Egyptian army in hot pursuit... and got to the other side and got stuck in the desert and in the wilderness of the Sinai region.

so why in god's heaven stay there for 40 years???
was he stuck at the crossroads with a red traffic light and waited to change green??

Palestine would have been only maybe 7 days walk away....so why stay there for 40 years???
and why did his followers also stay there without moving on??
how could they eat manna for 40 years x 3 times a day???
how bizarre is that??
but why no one questions the veracity of this implausible story?

I would have gone shopping in Jerusalem after only 4 days in the desert...but 40 years???

that's the whole life of those people totally wasted.

and then , after all that...Yahweeh god killed Moses without letting him see the promised land??
why??
how cruel and stupid is this story?
 Quoting: MBECCU 39978294


you are not looking objectively

you obviously didnt read well
the desert wasnt empty then as it is not empty now...

look at these verses

And Moses sent messengers from Kadesh unto the king of Edom, Thus saith thy brother Israel, Thou knowest all the travail that hath befallen us:

How our fathers went down into Egypt, and we have dwelt in Egypt a long time; and the Egyptians vexed us, and our fathers:

And when we cried unto the LORD, he heard our voice, and sent an angel, and hath brought us forth out of Egypt: and, behold, we are in Kadesh, a city in the uttermost of thy border:

Let us pass, I pray thee, through thy country: we will not pass through the fields, or through the vineyards, neither will we drink of the water of the wells: we will go by the king's high way, we will not turn to the right hand nor to the left, until we have passed thy borders.

THERE WERE HOSTILE PEOPLE,ARMIES FILLING THOSE LANDS

ITS LIKE SAYING WHY DIDNT THE GRANDMA CROSS THE ROAD,BECAUSE THE CARS ARE RUSHING THROUGH!
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I believe "40 years" similar to 40 days and nights of rain, is a unit of measure used to explain "a very long time". Not nessesarily 40 actual years.
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it is a profecy about Jesus fasting 40 days in the desert
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Not as stupid as your spelling.

It's "wandering".
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Far more stupid than his spelling...fucking religitards will believe ANYTHING!
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Re: MOSES WONDERING IN THE DESERT FOR 40 YEARS??? HOW STUPID IS THAT??
Not as stupid as your spelling.

It's "wandering".
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NO, he was wondering why the hell he didn't stay in Egypt,?
 Quoting: MBECCU 39978294


No, you were wondering why you started this idiotic thread.
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you must be a Christian.
resorting to abuse when you cannot answer a legitimate question.
so why do you think that Moses got lost in the desert for 40 years???
even a 2 year old could figure out that the valley must be on the other side of the mount Sinai.
so how could such a leader of men, piloted by Yahweeh god himself get so hopelessly lost?
for 40 years???
what is your theory? smart man?
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I believe "40 years" similar to 40 days and nights of rain, is a unit of measure used to explain "a very long time". Not nessesarily 40 actual years.
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EVERYTHING IN THE BIBLE IS FACTUAL
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I find the whole story of Moses totally bizarre and I am astounded how people can still believe it even in today's modern times of great knowledge and technology.

so Moses crossed the red sea with the Egyptian army in hot pursuit... and got to the other side and got stuck in the desert and in the wilderness of the Sinai region.

so why in god's heaven stay there for 40 years???
was he stuck at the crossroads with a red traffic light and waited to change green??

Palestine would have been only maybe 7 days walk away....so why stay there for 40 years???
and why did his followers also stay there without moving on??
how could they eat manna for 40 years x 3 times a day???
how bizarre is that??
but why no one questions the veracity of this implausible story?

I would have gone shopping in Jerusalem after only 4 days in the desert...but 40 years???

that's the whole life of those people totally wasted.

and then , after all that...Yahweeh god killed Moses without letting him see the promised land??
why??
how cruel and stupid is this story?
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Because they were nomads and it was ALL desert.
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Takes about 4 generations to breed the blood lines clean. Wandering could translate to surviving outside of the promised land so not to contaminate it with the impure.
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Would it have killed him to ask for directions?

If we read Mrs. Moses' diary, we'd probably find out that he knew a "shortcut."
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The Exodus: The True Story of Moses and the Pharaoh According to Velikovsky
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According to Velikovsky and recent theories, such volcanic eruptions would explain the darkness, and hail and lightning are known to accompany volcanic explosions of great magnitude. On a recent event, a river in America turned red. With the poisoning of waters, frogs and other amphibian reptiles would roam the land. Later they would die to create flies and lice, which would spread boils and disease. Recent discoveries of mass graves from this period in the Avaris region tend to confirm the theory of a plague.

How then can we explain the parting of the Red Sea? Velikovsky suggests that the Israelites crossed the shallow Sea of Reeds. An earthquake triggered by the eruptions caused the waters to fall back, and then to rush back to swallow the chariots of the Pharaoh.

Velikovksy’s claim that there are faults in standard excepted Egyptian chronology and that there is shift of a few hundred years is confirmed by a number of modern revisionist historians such as David Rohl. Rohl like Velikovsky offers hundreds of pages of evidence to support this claim. Other scholars have claimed that most of the Old Testament, including the stay in Egypt, Exodus, the fall of Jericho, the Temple of Solomon are works of fiction. Rohl’s answer to this claim is that the wrong period in history is sought for archeological evidence. If they went a bit further back all the evidence is there.

Great catastrophes when the Exodus occurred would have resulted in major migrations. According to both Velikovsky and Rohl, the Hyksos conquered Egypt shortly after the Exodus. Egyptian historians call these people the “Amu”, and both authors claim that they are the same as the Biblical Amalekite hordes which the Israelites fought with and prevailed over. They were also called the Hyksos or Shepard Kings, and according to Manetho, they conquered Egypt without resistance. Their rule which was described as cruel and destructive ended after a few hundred years after which they were driven off by Ahmoses I of the Southern Upper Egypt kingdom, which was free from their rule. Arab historians such as Mesudi, have related that the Amalekites fled from their home in Southern Arabia to conquer Egypt and Syria after violent natural catastrophes such as floods that swept away whole tribes, the decent of clouds (smoke?) and pestilence of ants. According to Velikovsky the meaning of Psalms (78:49,50) “He cast upon them [Egyptians] the fierceness of his anger, wrath, and indignation, and trouble, by sending evil angels among them,” should be “He cast upon them the fierceness of his anger, wrath, and indignation, and trouble, by sending shepherd kings among them.” Because “evil angels” is spelled “malakhei-roim,” which is close to the spelling of “malakhim-roim”, which means shepherd kings.

Sacred books claim miraculous powers for Moses. If as Velikovsky claims, the events that occurred at this tumultuous period had a natural cause, then in my opinion it by no means diminishes the status of a great and wise leader, who foresaw them and interpreted them as the wrath of God. The fact that Manetho mentioned that the Egyptians had suffered the Wrath of God the confirms this view.

If the theories of Velikovsky are correct, then it not only gives us spectacular new version of Biblical history, but has a message for us. If catastrophes occurred as frequently in the past as Velikovsly claimed, then we should be more prepared for such events in the future.
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I believe "40 years" similar to 40 days and nights of rain, is a unit of measure used to explain "a very long time". Not nessesarily 40 actual years.
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EVERYTHING IN THE BIBLE IS FACTUAL
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1rof1
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I see your 1rof1

and raise it by

1rof1 1rof1 1rof1 1rof1 1rof1 1rof1 1rof1

Tards will always be tards... I thought about posting the same thing then saw yours... LOL
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I find the whole story of Moses totally bizarre and I am astounded how people can still believe it even in today's modern times of great knowledge and technology.

so Moses crossed the red sea with the Egyptian army in hot pursuit... and got to the other side and got stuck in the desert and in the wilderness of the Sinai region.

so why in god's heaven stay there for 40 years???
was he stuck at the crossroads with a red traffic light and waited to change green??

Palestine would have been only maybe 7 days walk away....so why stay there for 40 years???
and why did his followers also stay there without moving on??
how could they eat manna for 40 years x 3 times a day???
how bizarre is that??
but why no one questions the veracity of this implausible story?

I would have gone shopping in Jerusalem after only 4 days in the desert...but 40 years???

that's the whole life of those people totally wasted.

and then , after all that...Yahweeh god killed Moses without letting him see the promised land??
why??
how cruel and stupid is this story?
 Quoting: MBECCU 39978294


It's not stupid, but would agree if you said strange or hard to believe.

However that's history and happened long time ago, and I accept the fact that I cannot understand everything.

For example help me understand this; enter a casino room; hundreds of slot machines making noises; wheels or whatever circling around; people staring at them for long long hours if not days - that is unbelievable for me.

or a woman who just gave birth signing a paper declaring that she gave her new born for adoption. unbelievable.

or a boss being insulting, arrogant, and tyrant with his employees when they are working for him.

or loads more, unbelievable

so look around, open your eyes and you start seeing unbelievable scenarions, that's what hurts.

Moses's story true or false, like other Bible stories are there for me as lessons to giude me into goodness.
“Our lives are not our own. From womb to tomb, we are bound to others. Past and present. And by each crime and every kindness, we birth our future...”
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eh i wandered in hell, beat the devil, stole his shit, then fucked his main bitch in half the time (20 years)

personally, i'd say that's not that shabby

maybe moses lived in dog years or something
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bible is a book of words written by men. god = inverted deity name. bible was written by folks who do not worship the god of the bible...

deception is your friend, gain strength from the lessons it will teach you.....



you're up now go forth, fall over and learn a thing called balanced for a "change"
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I find the whole story of Moses totally bizarre and I am astounded how people can still believe it even in today's modern times of great knowledge and technology.

so Moses crossed the red sea with the Egyptian army in hot pursuit... and got to the other side and got stuck in the desert and in the wilderness of the Sinai region.

so why in god's heaven stay there for 40 years???
was he stuck at the crossroads with a red traffic light and waited to change green??

Palestine would have been only maybe 7 days walk away....so why stay there for 40 years???
and why did his followers also stay there without moving on??
how could they eat manna for 40 years x 3 times a day???
how bizarre is that??
but why no one questions the veracity of this implausible story?

I would have gone shopping in Jerusalem after only 4 days in the desert...but 40 years???

that's the whole life of those people totally wasted.

and then , after all that...Yahweeh god killed Moses without letting him see the promised land??
why??
how cruel and stupid is this story?
 Quoting: MBECCU 39978294


you are not looking objectively

you obviously didnt read well
the desert wasnt empty then as it is not empty now...

look at these verses

And Moses sent messengers from Kadesh unto the king of Edom, Thus saith thy brother Israel, Thou knowest all the travail that hath befallen us:

How our fathers went down into Egypt, and we have dwelt in Egypt a long time; and the Egyptians vexed us, and our fathers:

And when we cried unto the LORD, he heard our voice, and sent an angel, and hath brought us forth out of Egypt: and, behold, we are in Kadesh, a city in the uttermost of thy border:

Let us pass, I pray thee, through thy country: we will not pass through the fields, or through the vineyards, neither will we drink of the water of the wells: we will go by the king's high way, we will not turn to the right hand nor to the left, until we have passed thy borders.

THERE WERE HOSTILE PEOPLE,ARMIES FILLING THOSE LANDS

ITS LIKE SAYING WHY DIDNT THE GRANDMA CROSS THE ROAD,BECAUSE THE CARS ARE RUSHING THROUGH!
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bump

i will continue to bump this until you read nd understand what i wrote

you dont need to embrace it,just look and understand
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if you say that writings are not true

what makes your writings more true

you are a man and you claim to know what happened before you were even born,better than those who lived it themselves

thats a bit ignorant
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if you say that writings are not true

what makes your writings more true

you are a man and you claim to know what happened before you were even born,better than those who lived it themselves

thats a bit ignorant
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but we all are sometimes

people are stubborn,and when you find how to battle your stubborness and persuit of being right;

you will look at things as their are not as you perceive them
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if you say that writings are not true

what makes your writings more true

you are a man and you claim to know what happened before you were even born,better than those who lived it themselves

thats a bit ignorant
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but we all are sometimes

people are stubborn,and when you find how to battle your stubborness and persuit of being right;

you will look at things as they* are not as you perceive them
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for example you can live in a perception that sun is nonexistent

sun will have effect on you no matter what you percieve of it

but your perception can alter your motives
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for example you can live in a perception that sun is nonexistent

sun will have effect on you no matter what you percieve of it

but your perception can alter your motives
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till you get punched in the fuckin mouth by the sun (not you i know you're just trying to help)

really, to the ignorant pale bigots, there is no soft landing.

no golden parachute

now you get to see how fast you'd really fall due to that old universal law of muthafuckin attraction

p.s, 9.8 m/s from, say, sky high leaves you at a pretty high terminal velocity hitting the ground.

just saaaayin

and the earth is not soft lol
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for example you can live in a perception that sun is nonexistent

sun will have effect on you no matter what you percieve of it

but your perception can alter your motives
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till you get punched in the fuckin mouth by the sun (not you i know you're just trying to help)

really, to the ignorant pale bigots, there is no soft landing.

no golden parachute

now you get to see how fast you'd really fall due to that old universal law of muthafuckin attraction

p.s, 9.8 m/s from, say, sky high leaves you at a pretty high terminal velocity hitting the ground.

just saaaayin

and the earth is not soft lol
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well kinda,bout you could have worded it better XD

we all can
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plus, i've already thrown everybody off the top.

greatest suspense is when will they hit rock bottom

lolololol





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