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Debunk: Dr. Karla Turner, Barbara Bartholic, Phil Schnieder...

 
Phil McHonkey
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05/19/2013 11:25 AM
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Debunk: Dr. Karla Turner, Barbara Bartholic, Phil Schnieder...
The testimony of these and a few others bespeaks an alien narrative worlds different, and quite a bit more dire, than today's prominent researchers. The question follows: has anybody come forward to debunk their claims? If not, then why has nobody stepped up to fill their metaphysical shoes, continue the research, and sound the alarm? If there was a credible debunk, what was it? Who offered it and when? I'm puzzled about why a bigger deal isn't made about this research if it was never proven demonstrably false. If you're unfamiliar with this research, go check it out: going back 15-20 years, a certain segment of exopolitical thought had come to some fairly dire conclusions about the nature of the UFO phenomenon and the future of existence on earth. Most of the people espousing this type of theory died young, and since then the work they did has been all but wiped from our collective memory. I can't help but wonder why.
obiwan
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05/22/2013 10:50 PM
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Re: Debunk: Dr. Karla Turner, Barbara Bartholic, Phil Schnieder...
The work of Barbara Bartholic and Karla Turner is continued by people such as Eve Lorgen and James Bartley. I'm sure there are others also. A woman named Peggy Kane using an electronic dowsing-like technique, reverse speech analysis, also uncovered much material regarding the dark side of the reptilian agenda. I think "they" eventually got to her. Here are a few links which may be helpful.

James Bartley: [link to theuniversalseduction.com]

Eve Lorgen: [link to evelorgen.com]

Here's a site where Karla Turner's out of print books and Barbara Bartholic's book are available in pdf format. I don't accept all this man's ideas but I do appreciate his keeping these out of print books available. These books are hard to find otherwise and all are well worth reading: [link to www.jeffpolachek.com]

Also youtube has film clips of Karla Turner and others mentioned above.

Hope this helps. I believe there is a powerful disinformation program and concerted effort at high levels to keep the malevolent alien info out of public awareness. That's one reason you don't find the people who are doing this type of investigative work.
Phil McHonkey
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05/22/2013 11:06 PM
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Re: Debunk: Dr. Karla Turner, Barbara Bartholic, Phil Schnieder...
It's weird because on one hand, the people researching and reporting this type of agenda are people who died young, or have since become a discredited subset even amongst a smallish population that's itself been discredited already by the msm. On the other, The "bad alien" agenda has the same kind of duality as the "good" alien agenda, namely: the story makes sense weather you believe it's real, or weather you think it's being deployed as a distraction or to discourage interest in attempted contact. It's existence is logicaly arguable no matter how you chose to approach it. I find that frustrating.

Thanks tho, for the info. This thread was buried deep with no hope left ;p

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