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TOTRhombus User ID: 38804434 United States 05/21/2013 12:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | . . . a law intended to expand coverage will to some extent do exactly the opposite. Quoting: No Dhimmi . . . young Americans are exceedingly rational. If premiums rise 10 percent, 7 percent of those polled would pay the penalty, but then turn around and buy insurance (as the law dictates they must be permitted to do) if they got sick. The fraction rises to 11 percent and 20 percent for the larger premium hikes, respectively. Choosing the penalty over insurance, or conveniently buying insurance (from the ambulance) just when it is needed, has been caricatured as responses only dreamed up by opponents of Obamacare. Not so, as it turns out. While the respondents are price-conscious consumers, they are not anti-Obamacare. The article's author is the former director of the Congressional Budget Office. [link to www.washingtontimes.com] and the one big thing that obamacare was supposed to take care of, PRE-EXISTING CONDITIONS has been removed from the plan. The whole thing is a damn sham to get more power for that dreaded agency THE IRS. Does anyone really feel comfortable with the IRS having your most intimate facts about you???? When did pre exempt get removed from the plan? Look at my previous post. That may explain it. I don't know where you get your delusions, laser brain. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 24183289 United States 05/21/2013 02:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is my latest "health" care plan. I'll take the penalty and if/when I get sick, I'll phone in to get insurance. I am almost certain a new type of "insurance" will pop up from this BS. A month to month health coverage. I will bet many people buy a policy the month before they file income taxes, file taxes and then let it expire. Affordable Health Care Act!! |
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No Dhimmi (OP) User ID: 109891 United States 05/24/2013 06:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am sure Nancy Palosi will agree with you - she pushed this on us ALL relevant scriptures that include a time factor prove no pre-trib rapture. Over 50 verses! Kindle Edition only 99 CENTS! Biblical Eschatological “Time-Stamps” Relevant to the Last Day/Days (Amazon) |
No Dhimmi (OP) User ID: 109891 United States 05/24/2013 06:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "I believe to create political change that will preserve our liberty, it requires the public to grasp the world is all connected. If we can accomplish that, we have a chance at leaving our children and their’s a better life rather than a dismal one". - - Martin Armstrong [link to armstrongeconomics.com] ALL relevant scriptures that include a time factor prove no pre-trib rapture. Over 50 verses! Kindle Edition only 99 CENTS! Biblical Eschatological “Time-Stamps” Relevant to the Last Day/Days (Amazon) |
No Dhimmi (OP) User ID: 254826 United States 05/24/2013 08:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In the 1960s, the Canadian government adopted a government administered health care system – covering all citizens through tax levies. The entire system is now in crisis. The “father” of Canadian health care is Claude Castonguay. The program was implemented based on his advise and recommendations. Now he warns it’s a failure and says it needs to be returned to the private sector so “people can exercise freedom of choice”. ALL relevant scriptures that include a time factor prove no pre-trib rapture. Over 50 verses! Kindle Edition only 99 CENTS! Biblical Eschatological “Time-Stamps” Relevant to the Last Day/Days (Amazon) |
No Dhimmi (OP) User ID: 109891 United States 05/24/2013 11:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | POLL: Majority Want to Return to Pre-Obamacare System... [link to www.foxnews.com] ALL relevant scriptures that include a time factor prove no pre-trib rapture. Over 50 verses! Kindle Edition only 99 CENTS! Biblical Eschatological “Time-Stamps” Relevant to the Last Day/Days (Amazon) |
No Dhimmi (OP) User ID: 109891 United States 05/24/2013 11:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Employers Offer 'Skinny' Coverage to Side-Step Fines... [link to bighealthreport.com] ALL relevant scriptures that include a time factor prove no pre-trib rapture. Over 50 verses! Kindle Edition only 99 CENTS! Biblical Eschatological “Time-Stamps” Relevant to the Last Day/Days (Amazon) |
No Dhimmi (OP) User ID: 109891 United States 05/24/2013 11:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Won't Cover Surgery, Hospital Stays, Prenatal Care... [link to www.nypost.com] ALL relevant scriptures that include a time factor prove no pre-trib rapture. Over 50 verses! Kindle Edition only 99 CENTS! Biblical Eschatological “Time-Stamps” Relevant to the Last Day/Days (Amazon) |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 39762874 United States 05/24/2013 11:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is my latest "health" care plan. Quoting: Quack I'll take the penalty and if/when I get sick, I'll phone in to get insurance. I am almost certain a new type of "insurance" will pop up from this BS. A month to month health coverage. I will bet many people buy a policy the month before they file income taxes, file taxes and then let it expire. Affordable Health Care Act!! wont be possible, in order to purchase a plan that will cover your pre-existing conditions, you will have to buy it through the State Exchanges and that will have an open enrollment once a year for a few weeks. so when u get sick, be prepared to wait for up to a year before you can purchase a plan |
No Dhimmi (OP) User ID: 109891 United States 05/24/2013 11:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | But Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius has a different idea of what insurance is. In response to an American Society of Actuaries report that health insurance premiums would rise 32 percent under Obamacare, she said, "Some of these folks have very high catastrophic plans that don't pay for anything unless you get hit by a bus." Her idea apparently is that insurance should pay for just about every health care procedure. In her defense, the World War II decision to make the cost of health insurance deductible for employers and nontaxable for employees has moved things in that direction. Many people have come to expect that. But as the Daily Beast's Megan McArdle commented, "Coverage of routine, predictable services is not insurance at all; it's a spectacularly inefficient prepayment plan." Some Obamacare architects, including its namesake, want to move toward a single-payer system in which government would pay all health care costs. Many Obamacare opponents want a bigger role for markets, allowing consumers to choose insurance that covers catastrophes and paying for routine costs with tax-free (and in some cases subsidized) dollars. But if large numbers of employees are enrolled in "skinny" health insurance plans, as the Wall Street Journal article suggests, Obamacare will have produced an unanticipated outcome no one wants. People stuck with these policies will have insurance that pays for the equivalent of oil changes (up to six a year!) but not for the equivalent of a wrecked car. Just the opposite of real insurance. ALL relevant scriptures that include a time factor prove no pre-trib rapture. Over 50 verses! Kindle Edition only 99 CENTS! Biblical Eschatological “Time-Stamps” Relevant to the Last Day/Days (Amazon) |
No Dhimmi (OP) User ID: 109891 United States 05/24/2013 11:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Socialism is not in the least what it pretends to be. It is not the pioneer of a better and finer world, but the spoiler of what thousands of years of civilization have created. It does not build, it destroys. For destruction is the essence of it. It produces nothing, it only consumes what the social order based on private ownership in the means of production has created. – Ludwig von Mises (1881-1973) Economist and social philosopher ALL relevant scriptures that include a time factor prove no pre-trib rapture. Over 50 verses! Kindle Edition only 99 CENTS! Biblical Eschatological “Time-Stamps” Relevant to the Last Day/Days (Amazon) |
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No Dhimmi (OP) User ID: 198576 United States 05/24/2013 11:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Lies, all lies, I heard obamacare was going to be so great, that the unions were going to give up their wavers and take part in it!!!! Quoting: chuckles 2417276 Let us know when the unions fall under O care, like its falling on us. ALL relevant scriptures that include a time factor prove no pre-trib rapture. Over 50 verses! Kindle Edition only 99 CENTS! Biblical Eschatological “Time-Stamps” Relevant to the Last Day/Days (Amazon) |
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