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Alright, Time For Some Brutally Honest Questions

 
New Hope
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It seems like the post few days, a lot of the threads I've seen on here is "Muslims did this" or "Random Muslim did that." And as I read these threads, I become more and more horrified...both at the actions taken and the responses that people have had to them.

I've seen people advocating (not always directly mind you) rounding up all Muslims and deporting them, jailing them, or...worse, simply for being Muslim. "Oh, this dude just happened to be a Muslim and you also happen to be a Muslim? You must be a terrorist like him!"

Honestly, is that what we've become? A nation so fearful of Islam, that in our eyes, anyone who is Muslim is automatically a terrorist? That they all should be round up and sent somewhere or just simply killed?

Let's think about this; if I even dropped a hint that the same thing was going to happen to the Right and/or Christians, you all would be outraged, and justifiably so. It would be a violation of some of out most basic and most dearly held rights, as both Americans and as humans.

And yet, and yet, if I said, "see these Muslims over here, we're going to detain/deport/kill them," no one bats an eyelash. No one stands up and says that's wrong. Hell, I've seen it justified as, "they're not humans, they're wild animals."

Look, I'm not trying to start a fight. I'm trying to understand the mindset of people who single out this particular group for hate.

Oh, and one more thing, yes, I know that Muslims have committed acts of violence in the name of their religion...just as Christians have, and Jews, and Hindus, etc.
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05/26/2013 11:19 AM
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read up on Wahhabism and get back to us

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read up on Wahhabism and get back to us

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I know about Wahhabism, that it is one of the violent branches of Islam.

But that's just it; it's a branch of Islam, a small part of it. To associate all Muslims with the actions of the Wahhabis would be like associating all Christians with WBC or the KKK or some other hate group that uses Christianity as their excuse for their hatred.
I don't believe in putting a political label on myself, but if I had to, I'd be a liberal-libertarian. Want to honestly know what that means? Ask me sometime.

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05/26/2013 11:33 AM

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That's it? That's the only response you have? If you're not interested in an actual conversation on this, then go away.
I don't believe in putting a political label on myself, but if I had to, I'd be a liberal-libertarian. Want to honestly know what that means? Ask me sometime.

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05/26/2013 11:36 AM
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I think rounding them up and deporting them all is ridiculous!
They should be rounded up and nuked...
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05/26/2013 11:39 AM
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read up on Wahhabism and get back to us

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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 40362942


I know about Wahhabism, that it is one of the violent branches of Islam.

But that's just it; it's a branch of Islam, a small part of it. To associate all Muslims with the actions of the Wahhabis would be like associating all Christians with WBC or the KKK or some other hate group that uses Christianity as their excuse for their hatred.
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it's a small branch that the other 'branches' are completely fucking terrified of

it is a HUGE problem
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05/26/2013 11:40 AM
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Fine, the ones that burn people alive and blow up towns should be killed
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I think rounding them up and deporting them all is ridiculous!
They should be rounded up and nuked...
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Yes
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05/26/2013 11:41 AM

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Yes, if a muslim guy did it its because of religion, if he is christian he was just a bad guy, no offence to anyone here but i can totally see christians picking up terrorists tactics soon

and the thing is MANY native americans was murdered in the name of jesus and no one talks about that

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Aso...not one hd photo from the sahara.
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I think rounding them up and deporting them all is ridiculous!
They should be rounded up and nuked...
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All of them? Even the one's who are living their lives peacefully, like you and me? The one's that are working hard, raising their families etc, with the only difference between us and them is where they worship?

There are a little over a billion Muslims in the world. Are you seriously trying to say kill 'em all?

Again, in case people missed this; I understand that their are violent Muslims. I understand that they try to justify their hatred through the Koran. But the point I'm trying to make, the point that people seem to miss, is that not all Muslims are like that.
I don't believe in putting a political label on myself, but if I had to, I'd be a liberal-libertarian. Want to honestly know what that means? Ask me sometime.

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05/26/2013 11:52 AM

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I am trying to develop some sort of biology based explanation for the whole mess. It would be helpful if I had a brain to develop the theory with but here goes:

Immigration makes you go crazy

Thread: If Immigration causes Schizophrenia- why are we just worried about Pot?

Mohammad had a type of brain injury which leads to hyperreligosity, pedophilia and... cult development.

David Koresh, Joe Smith, Jim Jones, Charles Manson and a bunch of other cultists who have sex with underage girls all had this illness to some degree. Obviously some folks on that list, like my Grandparent, kept it together better than others. There is a balance of good ideas and bad motivation.

People who are mentally ill attract people who are mentally ill. Like we're supposed to be mentally ill since we are conspiracy theorists, and being on this list reinforces our "deviant worldview"

Radical Islam, as a distortion of a faith that was initially conceived by someone with a problem, attracts folks with problems. And we, with our multicultural immigration policies, have created a bunch more folks with problems.

This is not good.

That is about how far along I am with this idea.


My Mormon relatives have killed babies in the name of religion. Well, one baby. Defending your faith can become very intense-then mix in being psychotic and delusional.

Waving a placard protesting 'Muslims only guilty of worshipping Allah', this is believed to be Woolwich terror suspect Michael Adebolajo, marching with a group that openly called for the beheading of British troops.
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05/26/2013 11:57 AM
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Again, in case people missed this; I understand that their are violent Muslims. I understand that they try to justify their hatred through the Koran. But the point I'm trying to make, the point that people seem to miss, is that not all Muslims are like that.
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In most groups, "bad apples" are weeded out and condemned by others of the same group for violent or criminal acts. Not so in Islam, and that's the problem. Answer me this: Why are all of the so-called peace-loving Muslims not standing up to condemn these violent acts? Why is there not even a hint that any Muslim disagrees with this sort of thing and will speak out publicly?
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I think rounding them up and deporting them all is ridiculous!
They should be rounded up and nuked...
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I think rounding them up and deporting them all is ridiculous!
They should be rounded up and nuked...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30353249


All of them? Even the one's who are living their lives peacefully, like you and me? The one's that are working hard, raising their families etc, with the only difference between us and them is where they worship?

There are a little over a billion Muslims in the world. Are you seriously trying to say kill 'em all?

Again, in case people missed this; I understand that their are violent Muslims. I understand that they try to justify their hatred through the Koran. But the point I'm trying to make, the point that people seem to miss, is that not all Muslims are like that.
 Quoting: New Hope


Unfortunately for the Muslims there is the minority that do it and the rest tacitly support it. Its unpalatable but it is the truth.


Allan-at-the-snackbar!
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Anyone spouting off saying ALL Muslims deserve to be extinct by their choice of religion is a brainwashed pawn who has been completely dominated by the hateful mentality of violence they've been taught to embrace and support. I believe the violent and extreme deserve to be removed, regardless of Islam, Christianity, Judaism...

If you're a tool posing as a crusader for YOUR religion, then you are only a pawn for someone much bigger who could give a damn less about you. People like that deserve the fate they wish upon others. "Muzzies must die" folks must grow a brain and realize who OUR REAL enemies are, time is so so short.

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