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British Police Arrest Citizens for Criticizing Islam on Social Media

 
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Four men in England have been either arrested or warned after making anti-Muslim comments on Facebook and Twitter in response to the killing of a British soldier.

Benjamin Flatters, 22, was arrested by Lincolnshire Police after authorities were alerted he had made racist or anti-religious statements on Facebook, the Daily Mail reports.
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Islam is a criminal (and semitic!) religion, but how come you neocons never care when H0loh0ax rev!s10n!s+s are imprisoned for 5yrs for their academic works?
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Wow wtf. Wouldn't be surprised if they start doing this in the states.
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Wont happen here.

Too many Armed "targets".

The only chance they would have is a 67 year old Wal-Mart greeter at closing time, and even then it's 50/50 chances that the greeter will be packing.
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lmfao
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regreting giving up those guns yet?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16648993


? lol, stupid mug. that would mean all british residents would have guns including them, hows that going to benifit anyone moron. Such a stupid American thing to say, lets all start shooting at something and see how much friendly fire there is at the end of it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3638639


Well keep this in mind, you don't see this shit here in America. We have enough crazies to take them out when they pull this shit right out in the open.
 Quoting: page8844 469654


Fort Hood? Boston marathon? Police kicking in doors and shooting innocent citizens? Anyone? Anyone?......No,I thought not.

Your argument is null and void. You are in as much trouble as we are, if not more.

Allan-at-the-snackbar!
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Couple of things:

Our laws are of course based on English Common Law. The constitution and Declaration of Independence pays homage to the Magna Carta. We're a former British colony. I don't comprehend how English police can arrest someone for saying something 'racist' online. I understand they'll say it 'incited' violence, but that's fucking ridiculous. Chanting at football games incites violence. It's a serious restriction of freedom of speech designed to placate people who aren't used to real freedom of speech and democratic societies. It's also an example of a very heavy handed state. The law is used to simply muzzle people from really speaking their minds freely, in an effective, modern manner, that can reach potentially millions of people as opposed to dozens on a street corner somewhere.

Our cops are all armed. A cop [armed] should have arrived on the scene very quickly. say within 5 minutes, or a guard/military cop from the base a few blocks away, also armed. They may have [may have, not saying his wounds weren't immediately fatal] saved the guys life. And instead of pussyfooting around, allowing the two morons to mug for the camera and chitchat with passerbyes. I saw big, grown men standing by, doing nothing but watch; honestly, a group of men could have taken down these two, they were armed with knives and an old, rusty revolver, but a few men could have grabbed anything available as a shield and weapon and taken these two fools down. Just my opinion. And then there was a women who FOOLISHLY stopped to chat with the guys and who now is being played up as some kind of hero. Reality is she did a very foolish thing and is damn lucky she's alive, but I suppose authorities are putting a spin on her situation. Anyhow, you or anyone else in the UK should have to wait for armed police to show up because regular police are unarmed. I know unarmed police is like a sacred cow in Britain, but seriously, tell an American, Canadian, French, German, etc., etc., cop they would have to do their job unarmed, and they'd look at you like you were crazy. And I wouldn't blame them.
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Clearly radiclalism and hate preaching is not just reserved for people of muslim faith.
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It's nice to speak to you sir but could you please try to construct a coherent sentence as I am having trouble understanding your garbled syntax.

iamwith
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 40543324


Why would I waste my time on you madam? Keep insulting Americans and feeling good about yourself it will keep you busy while the savage is at your door devouring your children...
 Quoting: davvi


You sir,are in error.I am not insulting all Americans. Most are brave as are most British citizens.
You unfortunately seem to to lump all British citizens together (Quote:'Britain go to hell').

So I ask you sir, are you:

A. A self-loathing lib-o-tard?
B. ‘Ethnic’?
C. Poorly educated?
C. At least two of the above?

Allan-at-the-snackbar!iamwithiamwith
 Quoting: ALBION 40543324


Madam,

I know that the british are anti-American and really that doesn't bother me much, but I find your attempt to bore me to death beyond the pale...you are a cruel people.
 Quoting: davvi

I am not anti-American. I feel the plight of the patriot be they British, American, German or even French.
However,once again you have generalized (QUOTE:you are a cruel people). You seem to want to divide people rather than bring us together to fight a common foe.
Are you the enemy within?



Allan-at-the-snackbar!
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regreting giving up those guns yet?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16648993


? lol, stupid mug. that would mean all british residents would have guns including them, hows that going to benifit anyone moron. Such a stupid American thing to say, lets all start shooting at something and see how much friendly fire there is at the end of it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3638639


Well keep this in mind, you don't see this shit here in America. We have enough crazies to take them out when they pull this shit right out in the open.
 Quoting: page8844 469654


What do you mean we don't have this shit here in America? Of course we do. The only problem is that our media refuses to report it. Have you ever seen what happens in our inner cities? Do you ever read about how whites are singled out for unspeakable crimes committed by the savages who inhabit our inner cities?

If we had wall to wall reporting like we had for that thug Trayvon maybe whites over here would be awake and rebelling too. We need to be...
 Quoting: davvi

BoooooooHooooooo...that's really all I have to say to any and all spoiled American's. You just don't know how good you have it. The President does and he hates us for it...yeah!
Keep it simple and always give <3
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regreting giving up those guns yet?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16648993


? lol, stupid mug. that would mean all british residents would have guns including them, hows that going to benifit anyone moron. Such a stupid American thing to say, lets all start shooting at something and see how much friendly fire there is at the end of it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3638639


Well keep this in mind, you don't see this shit here in America. We have enough crazies to take them out when they pull this shit right out in the open.
 Quoting: page8844 469654


What do you mean we don't have this shit here in America? Of course we do. The only problem is that our media refuses to report it. Have you ever seen what happens in our inner cities? Do you ever read about how whites are singled out for unspeakable crimes committed by the savages who inhabit our inner cities?

If we had wall to wall reporting like we had for that thug Trayvon maybe whites over here would be awake and rebelling too. We need to be...
 Quoting: davvi


OMGosh...you are such a shill. All I can say.
Keep it simple and always give <3
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It seems these 2 were arrested for threats against mosques. [link to www.dailymail.co.uk]
Near the end of the article
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Who alerted the Police I wonder, its a one sided affair, if Muslims make remarks about white people they don't get arrested.
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if aNYONE makes a racist comment about white people NOTHING is saaid or done

This is why people must die, how else will they listen
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 40438175


I think it's because none of us go runing to the police everytime someone makes a racist coment against us. It just roles off my back.

Sticks and stones will break my bones but names will never hurt me.

Is a ryhme that was common in my day.

Example, this mother at my kids school with a buggy, you can't always get on the bus they get full. If the driver is black her attitude is never mind the bus is full. If the driver is white she starts saying to everyone at the bus stop, that was racist I'm reporting this.

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regreting giving up those guns yet?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16648993


? lol, stupid mug. that would mean all british residents would have guns including them, hows that going to benifit anyone moron. Such a stupid American thing to say, lets all start shooting at something and see how much friendly fire there is at the end of it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3638639


No, you're absolutely correct

Just sit back and let the authorities handle it

They're the professionals and they know what's in your best interests

The authorities will stop the Muslim hate speech and violent acts against native Brits

You and your women have nothing to fear...just relax knowing you and your family's future are in good hand...tye authorities would never lie or let anything hurt you

sheep
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Why would I waste my time on you madam? Keep insulting Americans and feeling good about yourself it will keep you busy while the savage is at your door devouring your children...
 Quoting: davvi


You sir,are in error.I am not insulting all Americans. Most are brave as are most British citizens.
You unfortunately seem to to lump all British citizens together (Quote:'Britain go to hell').

So I ask you sir, are you:

A. A self-loathing lib-o-tard?
B. ‘Ethnic’?
C. Poorly educated?
C. At least two of the above?

Allan-at-the-snackbar!iamwithiamwith
 Quoting: ALBION 40543324


Madam,

I know that the british are anti-American and really that doesn't bother me much, but I find your attempt to bore me to death beyond the pale...you are a cruel people.
 Quoting: davvi

I am not anti-American. I feel the plight of the patriot be they British, American, German or even French.
However,once again you have generalized (QUOTE:you are a cruel people). You seem to want to divide people rather than bring us together to fight a common foe.
Are you the enemy within?



Allan-at-the-snackbar!
 Quoting: ALBION 40543324


I don't want to be together with you madam...but I would like to see you fight for your country instead of soothing yourself with casual insults directed at my country and my people. Insulting those who should be your natural allies in place of those who are your real "enemy" is not the answer. It is the easiest course of action but in the end will amount to nothing...

Am I the "enemy within?" In the current culture of fraud and corruption which are both rife in my country I would have to answer in the affirmative...
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? lol, stupid mug. that would mean all british residents would have guns including them, hows that going to benifit anyone moron. Such a stupid American thing to say, lets all start shooting at something and see how much friendly fire there is at the end of it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3638639


Well keep this in mind, you don't see this shit here in America. We have enough crazies to take them out when they pull this shit right out in the open.
 Quoting: page8844 469654


Fort Hood? Boston marathon? Police kicking in doors and shooting innocent citizens? Anyone? Anyone?......No,I thought not.

Your argument is null and void. You are in as much trouble as we are, if not more.

Allan-at-the-snackbar!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 40543324


Couple of things:

Our laws are of course based on English Common Law. The constitution and Declaration of Independence pays homage to the Magna Carta. We're a former British colony. I don't comprehend how English police can arrest someone for saying something 'racist' online. I understand they'll say it 'incited' violence, but that's fucking ridiculous. Chanting at football games incites violence. It's a serious restriction of freedom of speech designed to placate people who aren't used to real freedom of speech and democratic societies. It's also an example of a very heavy handed state. The law is used to simply muzzle people from really speaking their minds freely, in an effective, modern manner, that can reach potentially millions of people as opposed to dozens on a street corner somewhere.

Our cops are all armed. A cop [armed] should have arrived on the scene very quickly. say within 5 minutes, or a guard/military cop from the base a few blocks away, also armed. They may have [may have, not saying his wounds weren't immediately fatal] saved the guys life. And instead of pussyfooting around, allowing the two morons to mug for the camera and chitchat with passerbyes. I saw big, grown men standing by, doing nothing but watch; honestly, a group of men could have taken down these two, they were armed with knives and an old, rusty revolver, but a few men could have grabbed anything available as a shield and weapon and taken these two fools down. Just my opinion. And then there was a women who FOOLISHLY stopped to chat with the guys and who now is being played up as some kind of hero. Reality is she did a very foolish thing and is damn lucky she's alive, but I suppose authorities are putting a spin on her situation. Anyhow, you or anyone else in the UK should have to wait for armed police to show up because regular police are unarmed. I know unarmed police is like a sacred cow in Britain, but seriously, tell an American, Canadian, French, German, etc., etc., cop they would have to do their job unarmed, and they'd look at you like you were crazy. And I wouldn't blame them.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10110709

Thank you for a well reasoned statement.
In response I would say you are mostly correct. A lot of British people are frightened of being arrested by the police for doing nothing except standing up for their rights. British law now favours the immigrant above all others BUT there are still proud and honest British patriots who would have helped had they been there,unfortunately our numbers are dwindling as they are in the USA.


Allan-at-the-snackbar!
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It's almost like England is turning into one long Monty Python Skit.
I hope they rise up and get rid of the people in government responsable for this.
Is this what Obama has plans for us too?
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It's like living in the fucking twilight zone mate...
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Run..get out of Londonistan while you still can!
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Another reason I expatted.......just in time methinks
Free speech eh??? Certain muslims can slag off the uk right and centre
Yet get away with it
More like Great Britistan these days
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regreting giving up those guns yet?
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^^^THIS^^^ AND, it appears the Brits have long relinquished their FREEDOM OF SPEECH to become politically correct members of the human race...disgraceful. Beware; Britain is ALWAYS the testing ground for draconian measures coming to a state near you.
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I think ruly are the servant class, they don't dare question authority.
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Muslims are taking over Europe without firing guns. Europe with be Islamic in 100 years. MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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You sir,are in error.I am not insulting all Americans. Most are brave as are most British citizens.
You unfortunately seem to to lump all British citizens together (Quote:'Britain go to hell').

So I ask you sir, are you:

A. A self-loathing lib-o-tard?
B. ‘Ethnic’?
C. Poorly educated?
C. At least two of the above?

Allan-at-the-snackbar!iamwithiamwith
 Quoting: ALBION 40543324


Madam,

I know that the british are anti-American and really that doesn't bother me much, but I find your attempt to bore me to death beyond the pale...you are a cruel people.
 Quoting: davvi

I am not anti-American. I feel the plight of the patriot be they British, American, German or even French.
However,once again you have generalized (QUOTE:you are a cruel people). You seem to want to divide people rather than bring us together to fight a common foe.
Are you the enemy within?



Allan-at-the-snackbar!
 Quoting: ALBION 40543324


I don't want to be together with you madam...but I would like to see you fight for your country instead of soothing yourself with casual insults directed at my country and my people. Insulting those who should be your natural allies in place of those who are your real "enemy" is not the answer. It is the easiest course of action but in the end will amount to nothing...

Am I the "enemy within?" In the current culture of fraud and corruption which are both rife in my country I would have to answer in the affirmative...
 Quoting: davvi


Quote:'I don't want to be together with you madam' You sound like a petulant child,remember,together we stand divided we fall.

I repeat, I respect all true patriots of all countries and those who can see beyond the veil,you however,in your unreasoned hatred of the British patriot , will stand alone.I genuinely feel sorry for you.

I wish you God speed and a safe journey.


Allan-at-the-snackbar!
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Madam,

I know that the british are anti-American and really that doesn't bother me much, but I find your attempt to bore me to death beyond the pale...you are a cruel people.
 Quoting: davvi

I am not anti-American. I feel the plight of the patriot be they British, American, German or even French.
However,once again you have generalized (QUOTE:you are a cruel people). You seem to want to divide people rather than bring us together to fight a common foe.
Are you the enemy within?



Allan-at-the-snackbar!
 Quoting: ALBION 40543324


I don't want to be together with you madam...but I would like to see you fight for your country instead of soothing yourself with casual insults directed at my country and my people. Insulting those who should be your natural allies in place of those who are your real "enemy" is not the answer. It is the easiest course of action but in the end will amount to nothing...

Am I the "enemy within?" In the current culture of fraud and corruption which are both rife in my country I would have to answer in the affirmative...
 Quoting: davvi


Quote:'I don't want to be together with you madam' You sound like a petulant child,remember,together we stand divided we fall.

I repeat, I respect all true patriots of all countries and those who can see beyond the veil,you however,in your unreasoned hatred of the British patriot , will stand alone.I genuinely feel sorry for you.

I wish you God speed and a safe journey.


Allan-at-the-snackbar!
 Quoting: ALBION 40543324

POW!POW!

Poor Amercan.Your debating skills are bad!
You just got 'owned' by Albion
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ys, brit citzens are great at owning strangers on a niche' conspoiracy message board

just don;t ask th4em to stop young soldiers from getting their heads cut off

lol
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Uk bill to watch all citizens

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ys, brit citzens are great at owning strangers on a niche' conspoiracy message board

just don;t ask th4em to stop young soldiers from getting their heads cut off

lol
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Another unreasoned hater.

iamwith
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Madam,

I know that the british are anti-American and really that doesn't bother me much, but I find your attempt to bore me to death beyond the pale...you are a cruel people.
 Quoting: davvi

I am not anti-American. I feel the plight of the patriot be they British, American, German or even French.
However,once again you have generalized (QUOTE:you are a cruel people). You seem to want to divide people rather than bring us together to fight a common foe.
Are you the enemy within?



Allan-at-the-snackbar!
 Quoting: ALBION 40543324


I don't want to be together with you madam...but I would like to see you fight for your country instead of soothing yourself with casual insults directed at my country and my people. Insulting those who should be your natural allies in place of those who are your real "enemy" is not the answer. It is the easiest course of action but in the end will amount to nothing...

Am I the "enemy within?" In the current culture of fraud and corruption which are both rife in my country I would have to answer in the affirmative...
 Quoting: davvi


Quote:'I don't want to be together with you madam' You sound like a petulant child,remember,together we stand divided we fall.

I repeat, I respect all true patriots of all countries and those who can see beyond the veil,you however,in your unreasoned hatred of the British patriot , will stand alone.I genuinely feel sorry for you.

I wish you God speed and a safe journey.


Allan-at-the-snackbar!
 Quoting: ALBION 40543324


You mistake me madam, I never stand with my country's enemies and you of the euro-pussy gender are a weak link and I view you as being just this side of an enemy.

I am an American. I stand with like minded Americans we have enough trouble on our hands without worrying about you.

I also wish you well. Oh and pick up your little butt licker on your way out and take her with you...thanks...
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I am not anti-American. I feel the plight of the patriot be they British, American, German or even French.
However,once again you have generalized (QUOTE:you are a cruel people). You seem to want to divide people rather than bring us together to fight a common foe.
Are you the enemy within?



Allan-at-the-snackbar!
 Quoting: ALBION 40543324


I don't want to be together with you madam...but I would like to see you fight for your country instead of soothing yourself with casual insults directed at my country and my people. Insulting those who should be your natural allies in place of those who are your real "enemy" is not the answer. It is the easiest course of action but in the end will amount to nothing...

Am I the "enemy within?" In the current culture of fraud and corruption which are both rife in my country I would have to answer in the affirmative...
 Quoting: davvi


Quote:'I don't want to be together with you madam' You sound like a petulant child,remember,together we stand divided we fall.

I repeat, I respect all true patriots of all countries and those who can see beyond the veil,you however,in your unreasoned hatred of the British patriot , will stand alone.I genuinely feel sorry for you.

I wish you God speed and a safe journey.


Allan-at-the-snackbar!
 Quoting: ALBION 40543324


You mistake me madam, I never stand with my country's enemies and you of the euro-pussy gender are a weak link and I view you as being just this side of an enemy.

I am an American. I stand with like minded Americans we have enough trouble on our hands without worrying about you.

I also wish you well. Oh and pick up your little butt licker on your way out and take her with you...thanks...
 Quoting: davvi


You owned Mr. Team America!
You retort with bad language and a very narrow world-view.

You owned!!!
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The stink of fear is all over this.
Hell, it makes me afraid.
It reeks of fear being used as a weapon too.
The authorities are afraid, but also leveraging fear in the populace for containment purposes.

This is gonna be a long one... I can feel my fingers twitching.

So, as far as I can see it's a bit like some big ignorant loudmouth in a bar talking shit about everybody but nobody wants to argue with him because his first reaction is to go straight to violence.

So he continues to talk shit about everyone and when YOU get the balls to tap him on the shoulder and say "hey, you're out of line", the barman kicks YOU out of the bar.

Because the barman is afraid the big guy will go off and wreck the place so he stands there, polishing glasses shooting warning glances at the patrons to be quiet, while the big guy continues to piss all over everyone else with complete freedom.

The other patrons in the bar getting punished for the transgressions of another because so-called "authority" is too scared to punish him because he'll wreck the joint.

This fear combined with the kow-towing eagerness to fall over themselves accommodating the demands of fanatical political correctness, so-called diversity and some misguided vision of "One World" leaves the city gates wide open, so to speak.

The reality of life on this planet is that there are factions of humanity who subscribe to vastly different ways of life.

If one of those "ways" dictates that all other "ways" are not only false, but must be eradicated... and you invite practitioners of that way to live in a civilization that they believe God himself commands them to destroy (often with incredible violence) you're either a total moron or you're actively seeking to destroy the city.

CLOSE THE FUCKING GATES ALREADY!

Then you silence any citizen who points it out?!

Lmao! Then you wonder why so many of your citizens start to suspect government of conspiracy and malevolent design?

We simple peasants tend to call a spade a spade.

The governments of European countries like Sweden and the UK brought a rabid dog home, insisted it be allowed to live in the family house and punishes anyone who dares to point out the dog has eaten grandma?

If it's not malevolent design then it's gross incompetence.

Either way, our metaphorical barman's licence needs to be revoked... dig me?

Because he is either an incredibly shit barman or he is actively planning to burn down the bar for the insurance or some shit (and he's hoping the big loudmouth will do it for him... dig?)

Maybe it's time we got a new barman who can run his pub properly and isn't afraid to boot out disruptive customers?

Maybe it's time that the patrons of the Euro-Pub eschewed the bar entirely and had a street party instead?

beer2drinksdasbier

The EU can work in a natural way when it's members are of a common cultural heritage and ancestry... these are basic foundations for communication, commerce and natural instinctive cooperation, by extension commonality of cultural (if not political) values, industrial development etc creates what we call "the west" (in which I would include Japan and South Korea and even China to a certain extent but that's a thread in itself.

But Islam is utterly alien to these commonalities and utterly contravenes many of them, indeed it deeply believes they must be eradicated.

Can somebody explain to me how the fuck you are supposed to "integrate" something that fights tooth and nail to destroy you?

Western civilization and especially Europe, is a combination of Greek and Roman societal evolution and cultural philosophy... There is a famous saying derived from this system of civilization, in latin it's "Si fueris Romae, Romano vivito more; si fueris alibi, vivito sicut ibi."

"When in Rome, live as the Romans live, when elsewhere, live as they do there."

I think really, that's all we are asking of Islam are we not?

Nothing more than the exact same thing it asks of us when we go to Islamic nations and cultures.

Islam is far too immersive as a culture and lifestyle to integrate into what it perceives as "wrong" cultures... any attempts to do so will result in ghettoization simply because it is a lifestyle, a total immersion for the adherent.

That's not integration ffs!
That's not multi-culturalism, that's one culture attempting so supplant all others from the inside!

France trading and working with America or China... that's multi-culturalism, but it has to have some common foundations or values on some level for it to be feasible.

What we see now with Islam is more like multi-civilizationism (for want of a better term) and dude, you'd have to have a couple of extra planets lying around for that to work.

What is and what should be are not the same and sometimes can never be.
What should be: We all get along aand respect each others values.

What is: We don't... and those who dislike beer should stay out of the pub, if you don't like living as the Romans do, DON'T LIVE IN FUCKING ROME!

Ok, I'm done.
Kudos to you if you read that... ahh, vented.
Now MOAR COFFEE!

coffee

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thats not very nice

is that what british people do , talk mean to stangers and call them names?

no wonder africans are mad and chop heads off of soldiers while uk'rs stand around and make a movie

net bullies

i bet they are mean to other people too if this is any indicaqtion

they probably pour salt in the eyes of little kids and kick them and give jewels toier queen

its not nice to kick little kids and be a net bully

jesus said its wrong
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in the same way that any Constitution is trodden over by NDA or Corporate Non-Disclosure (for PROFIT) Agreement, so is Freedom of Speech trodden over by 'hate speech'.

Not forgetting this video: have THEY been arrested?

Thread: OMG - FELLOW BRITS - THIS VID WILL ENRAGE YOU !
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Do the Brits actually have "freedom of speech?"
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The stink of fear is all over this.
Hell, it makes me afraid.
It reeks of fear being used as a weapon too.
The authorities are afraid, but also leveraging fear in the populace for containment purposes.

This is gonna be a long one... I can feel my fingers twitching.

So, as far as I can see it's a bit like some big ignorant loudmouth in a bar talking shit about everybody but nobody wants to argue with him because his first reaction is to go straight to violence.

So he continues to talk shit about everyone and when YOU get the balls to tap him on the shoulder and say "hey, you're out of line", the barman kicks YOU out of the bar.

Because the barman is afraid the big guy will go off and wreck the place so he stands there, polishing glasses shooting warning glances at the patrons to be quiet, while the big guy continues to piss all over everyone else with complete freedom.

The other patrons in the bar getting punished for the transgressions of another because so-called "authority" is too scared to punish him because he'll wreck the joint.

This fear combined with the kow-towing eagerness to fall over themselves accommodating the demands of fanatical political correctness, so-called diversity and some misguided vision of "One World" leaves the city gates wide open, so to speak.

The reality of life on this planet is that there are factions of humanity who subscribe to vastly different ways of life.

If one of those "ways" dictates that all other "ways" are not only false, but must be eradicated... and you invite practitioners of that way to live in a civilization that they believe God himself commands them to destroy (often with incredible violence) you're either a total moron or you're actively seeking to destroy the city.

CLOSE THE FUCKING GATES ALREADY!

Then you silence any citizen who points it out?!

Lmao! Then you wonder why so many of your citizens start to suspect government of conspiracy and malevolent design?

We simple peasants tend to call a spade a spade.

The governments of European countries like Sweden and the UK brought a rabid dog home, insisted it be allowed to live in the family house and punishes anyone who dares to point out the dog has eaten grandma?

If it's not malevolent design then it's gross incompetence.

Either way, our metaphorical barman's licence needs to be revoked... dig me?

Because he is either an incredibly shit barman or he is actively planning to burn down the bar for the insurance or some shit (and he's hoping the big loudmouth will do it for him... dig?)

Maybe it's time we got a new barman who can run his pub properly and isn't afraid to boot out disruptive customers?

Maybe it's time that the patrons of the Euro-Pub eschewed the bar entirely and had a street party instead?

beer2drinksdasbier

The EU can work in a natural way when it's members are of a common cultural heritage and ancestry... these are basic foundations for communication, commerce and natural instinctive cooperation, by extension commonality of cultural (if not political) values, industrial development etc creates what we call "the west" (in which I would include Japan and South Korea and even China to a certain extent but that's a thread in itself.

But Islam is utterly alien to these commonalities and utterly contravenes many of them, indeed it deeply believes they must be eradicated.

Can somebody explain to me how the fuck you are supposed to "integrate" something that fights tooth and nail to destroy you?

Western civilization and especially Europe, is a combination of Greek and Roman societal evolution and cultural philosophy... There is a famous saying derived from this system of civilization, in latin it's "Si fueris Romae, Romano vivito more; si fueris alibi, vivito sicut ibi."

"When in Rome, live as the Romans live, when elsewhere, live as they do there."

I think really, that's all we are asking of Islam are we not?

Nothing more than the exact same thing it asks of us when we go to Islamic nations and cultures.

Islam is far too immersive as a culture and lifestyle to integrate into what it perceives as "wrong" cultures... any attempts to do so will result in ghettoization simply because it is a lifestyle, a total immersion for the adherent.

That's not integration ffs!
That's not multi-culturalism, that's one culture attempting so supplant all others from the inside!

France trading and working with America or China... that's multi-culturalism, but it has to have some common foundations or values on some level for it to be feasible.

What we see now with Islam is more like multi-civilizationism (for want of a better term) and dude, you'd have to have a couple of extra planets lying around for that to work.

What is and what should be are not the same and sometimes can never be.
What should be: We all get along aand respect each others values.

What is: We don't... and those who dislike beer should stay out of the pub, if you don't like living as the Romans do, DON'T LIVE IN FUCKING ROME!

Ok, I'm done.
Kudos to you if you read that... ahh, vented.
Now MOAR COFFEE!

:coffee:
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THAT!!!!

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The stink of fear is all over this.
Hell, it makes me afraid.
It reeks of fear being used as a weapon too.
The authorities are afraid, but also leveraging fear in the populace for containment purposes.

This is gonna be a long one... I can feel my fingers twitching.

So, as far as I can see it's a bit like some big ignorant loudmouth in a bar talking shit about everybody but nobody wants to argue with him because his first reaction is to go straight to violence.

So he continues to talk shit about everyone and when YOU get the balls to tap him on the shoulder and say "hey, you're out of line", the barman kicks YOU out of the bar.

Because the barman is afraid the big guy will go off and wreck the place so he stands there, polishing glasses shooting warning glances at the patrons to be quiet, while the big guy continues to piss all over everyone else with complete freedom.

The other patrons in the bar getting punished for the transgressions of another because so-called "authority" is too scared to punish him because he'll wreck the joint.

This fear combined with the kow-towing eagerness to fall over themselves accommodating the demands of fanatical political correctness, so-called diversity and some misguided vision of "One World" leaves the city gates wide open, so to speak.

The reality of life on this planet is that there are factions of humanity who subscribe to vastly different ways of life.

If one of those "ways" dictates that all other "ways" are not only false, but must be eradicated... and you invite practitioners of that way to live in a civilization that they believe God himself commands them to destroy (often with incredible violence) you're either a total moron or you're actively seeking to destroy the city.

CLOSE THE FUCKING GATES ALREADY!

Then you silence any citizen who points it out?!

Lmao! Then you wonder why so many of your citizens start to suspect government of conspiracy and malevolent design?

We simple peasants tend to call a spade a spade.

The governments of European countries like Sweden and the UK brought a rabid dog home, insisted it be allowed to live in the family house and punishes anyone who dares to point out the dog has eaten grandma?

If it's not malevolent design then it's gross incompetence.

Either way, our metaphorical barman's licence needs to be revoked... dig me?

Because he is either an incredibly shit barman or he is actively planning to burn down the bar for the insurance or some shit (and he's hoping the big loudmouth will do it for him... dig?)

Maybe it's time we got a new barman who can run his pub properly and isn't afraid to boot out disruptive customers?

Maybe it's time that the patrons of the Euro-Pub eschewed the bar entirely and had a street party instead?

beer2drinksdasbier

The EU can work in a natural way when it's members are of a common cultural heritage and ancestry... these are basic foundations for communication, commerce and natural instinctive cooperation, by extension commonality of cultural (if not political) values, industrial development etc creates what we call "the west" (in which I would include Japan and South Korea and even China to a certain extent but that's a thread in itself.

But Islam is utterly alien to these commonalities and utterly contravenes many of them, indeed it deeply believes they must be eradicated.

Can somebody explain to me how the fuck you are supposed to "integrate" something that fights tooth and nail to destroy you?

Western civilization and especially Europe, is a combination of Greek and Roman societal evolution and cultural philosophy... There is a famous saying derived from this system of civilization, in latin it's "Si fueris Romae, Romano vivito more; si fueris alibi, vivito sicut ibi."

"When in Rome, live as the Romans live, when elsewhere, live as they do there."

I think really, that's all we are asking of Islam are we not?

Nothing more than the exact same thing it asks of us when we go to Islamic nations and cultures.

Islam is far too immerse as a culture and lifestyle to integrate into what it perceives as "wrong" cultures... any attempts to do so will result in ghettoization simply because it is a lifestyle, a total immersion for the adherent.

That's not integration ffs!
That's not multi-culturalism, that's one culture attempting so supplant all others from the inside!

France trading and working with America or China... that's multi-culturalism, but it has to have some common foundations or values on some level for it to be feasible.

What we see now with Islam is more like multi-civilizationism (for want of a better term) and dude, you'd have to have a couple of extra planets lying around for that to work.

What is and what should be are not the same and sometimes can never be.
What should be: We all get along aand respect each others values.

What is: We don't... and those who dislike beer should stay out of the pub, if you don't like living as the Romans do, DON'T LIVE IN FUCKING ROME!

Ok, I'm done.
Kudos to you if you read that... ahh, vented.
Now MOAR COFFEE!

:coffee:
 Quoting: Lucky Charms

Atlast! A well rounded argument and a logical perspective. I've seen so much unreasoned hatred on this board towards countries that should be standing together.

I think if I had read another American post my IQ may have been permanently damaged (only joking my American friends!)
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Another unreasoned hater

thats not very nice

is that what british people do , talk mean to stangers and call them names?

no wonder africans are mad and chop heads off of soldiers while uk'rs stand around and make a movie

net bullies

i bet they are mean to other people too if this is any indicaqtion

they probably pour salt in the eyes of little kids and kick them and give jewels toier queen

its not nice to kick little kids and be a net bully

jesus said its wrong
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rofl
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Having true freedoms & being able to express an opinion thats not considered threatening is slowly becoming a thing of the past. This sets a bad precedent not only for democracy as a whole, but as well as for those that have fought and died for that right. Unfortunately many of those in charge, won't be seeing it that way, this memorial day.





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