Why The Next War With China Could Go Very Badly For The United States

nah, i dont see it. you cant learn creativity you either have it or you dont. its in your dna.

Most weapons systems contain computer chips which control their operation. Many of these chips were produced in China. Chip "back doors" can facilitate electronic interference, countermeasures, shut down, or self-destruction. Remember that US drone that Iran brought down for a safe landing?

that is why the destruction of humanity will come from the white man

he is just so dmaned creative that he thinks himself to be God

Bill and Hillary Clinton gave our most prized technology to China.

Bill and Hillary Clinton are TRAITORS AND SHOULD BE ARRESTED.

I don't expect a war with China. They already own the US.

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They were creative just some centuries ago. The white man of the Middle Ages adopted a lot of chinese tech from that time. Just because 'we' started the Industrial Revolution does not mean we are the only creative ones.

Great thread, but when was our first war?

China is much worse, trust me I've been there. It's a fucking hell hole. No way in hell would I ever want them running this country.

The Chinese are smart. They like the American homeland. They will completely subvert us economically as they increase their military potential. When they have full financial and military superiority they will demand pristine US land for their elites.

As it stands now, recent Indian and Chinese immigrants are taking over the most prestigious neighborhoods in the wealthiest areas of our country.

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china are the world leaders in multipurpose spades

what next? attack helicopters?

i would definitely buy one of those spades tho

It would go very badly for both sides because both are nuclear powers.

china is closing in technologically, but they're still 15-20 years behind, although 20 years ago they were 30+ years behind. they do have the 'largest' military, but it's large in the wrong areas. they have millions of front line infantry and outdated soviet tanks. but a relatively small airforce and navy, consisting mostly of outdated equipment, although with increasing numbers of advanced units, despite these still being 15-20 years behind the west's most advanced tech being fielded actively.

in short, if the USA and PRC went to war tommorow, the US would crush them, as the gap is at this moment still far too large for China to close with clever tactics and hacking. If the US and China went to war 20 years from now, or even 15 years, I think the outcome would be far less certain.

Nortel Collapse Linked To Chinese Hackers

Corporate espionage continues against Canadian firms, security expert says.

CBC News

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A former systems security adviser to Nortel Networks says he has no doubt that extensive cyberattacks on the technology company contributed to its downfall.

In an interview with the CBC’s As It Happens, Brian Shields, the former senior systems security adviser at Nortel, said spying by hackers allegedly based in China “absolutely” was a “considerable factor.”

“When they see what your business plans are, that's a huge advantage. It's unfair business practices that really bring down a company of this size," Shields said.

Nortel is currently selling off assets in the wake of a 2009 bankruptcy filing.

He insisted the hackers were based in China, something the Chinese government has rejected.

Shields has alleged that Chinese hackers had unfettered access to the former telecommunications giant as far back as 2000, downloaded business plans, research and development reports, employee emails and other documents.

He maintains that Canadian companies — including Waterloo, Ont.-based Research in Motion — continue to be targets.

"Absolutely. Without a doubt. The questions you've got to ask is, is there something of value? Companies, for example, like RIM [are] a huge target. They ought to worry about this stuff. And anybody else that is in technology or oil exploration. This is economic espionage. It truly is.”

Corporate espionage is a growing problem for North American companies, with the majority of attacks coming from China.

Last November, a group of U.S. analysts said there were as many as 12 different Chinese groups participating in cyberattacks on U.S. companies and government agencies.

During BHP Billiton’s hostile takeover bid for Saskatchewan’s PotashCorp, hackers traced to China targeted Bay Street law firms and other companies to get insider information on the $38-billion corporate takeover.

Those same hackers also targeted Canadian government computers in fall 2010, targeting the Finance Department, the Treasury Board, and Defence Research and Development Canada, a civilian agency of the Department of National Defence.

"It's very personal to me because I'm very sad-hearted about what happened to so many of my friends, to this once great Canadian company,” Shields told As it Happens.

[link to www.cbc.ca]

I think China should level the UK and israel first if any war were to be waged.

Yes they probably can make better weapons, but now that they stole your technology they're probably studying how to counter it, In a few years the world will be ruled by asians.

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Many articles I've read in the past always point to the economic interdependence between the United States and China
as a strong argument against war between the two.

That argument almost had me convinced but my intuition has always been that China and Russia are the two countries we
are to be most concerned about and over the years I have learned that my intuition is right 99.9% of the time.

I have vast knowledge of both arsenals; nobody wins the next war.

doubt they stole anything usefull

From a military standpoint China is not a significant threat as they have the ability to only project power regionally and their only real ally in any sense of the word is North Korea. Yes China has nuclear weapons but so do we and theirs aren't even as advanced or numerous as the Russians and our interceptors would actually be able to dent a full scale attack pretty handily.

As for economically, the Chinese need us far more than we need them. If FIAT currencies go down, China and Japan will be left holding a bag of worthless paper, as much manufacturing as the U.S. has lost we still have the ability to produce most of the basic essentials in house especially food, unfortunately the same cannot be said of China, I've had this argument with many people in the financial field and they all agree China has more to lose than we do.

like the fema camps going up around the U.S.?

when it comes to creativity they have a blank look on thier face

Fuck, every war since WWII has gone badly for the United States...

"Most of the Chinese kids have more brains in their asses than our kids have in their entire heads!!!!!!"

They must have invented trains, planes, automobiles, computers, and landed on the moon first.

Oh no - Whites did all that.

Don't mistake discipline and industry for true brilliance.

What would the brainwashed Jew-worshipers here in the States think about Israel selling our technology to China?

Why doesn't this article make any mention of that fact?

Suspected Chinese Spy Loses Bid To Rejoin Civil Service
National Post

A former senior analyst to the Prime Minister and Cabinet, who was fired when Canada’s spy agency questioned her “loyalty to Canada” over suspicion she was spying for China, has lost her fight to return to the civil service.

Haiyan Zhang, who worked as a senior communications analyst with the Privy Council Office in Ottawa, was suspected of having engaged in intelligence gathering during previous employment with Xinhua, China’s state-run news agency, and retained contact with spies working in China, the Canadian Security Intelligence Service reported to the government in 2003 when recommending her “Top Secret” security clearance be denied.

Richard Fadden, the director of CSIS, publicly warned last year that some politicians were falling under the influence of foreign governments through personal relationships. He also said China was the most aggressive in pursuing unofficial allies, although it caused an outcry and he later backtracked on the seriousness of his allegations.

Ms. Zhang is a native of Lanzhou, China, who became a Canadian citizen in 1999, four years after moving to Ottawa.

She joined the government’s civil service in 2002 and obtained a “Secret” security clearance while working in a senior position at Industry Canada. The following year she was recruited by the PCO.

When the PCO sought to upgrade her security clearance to “Top Secret,” which would allow her access to more sensitive material, a CSIS investigation found “reasonable grounds to believe” she had been a spy when she worked with Xinhua, court heard.

CSIS further said Ms. Zhang maintained contacts with people still engaged in spying in China and, according to court documents, “questioned Ms. Zhang’s loyalty to Canada and recommended that the Clerk of the Privy Council deny Ms. Zhang the Top Secret clearance.”

[link to news.nationalpost.com]