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NOSTRADAMUS PREDICTED PRINCE WILLIAM'S SON TO COME IN JULY 2013 = RETURN OF CHRIST.

 
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It seems you didn't understand. What is the ORIGINAL SENTENCE?

French Version:

1) L'an mil neuf cens nonante neuf sept mois,
2) Du ciel viendra un gran Roy effrayeur.
3) Resusciter le grand Roy d'Angolmois.
4) Avant apres Mars regner par bon heur.

English Translation:

1) The year thousand nine hundred ninety nine seven month,
2) From the heaven there will come a great King of Terror:
3)To bring back to life the great King of Angolmois,
4) Before after Mars to reign by good luck.

The way the numbers / words are given - their order - let us think about an addition: year 1000 + 900 + 99 + 7 months.

Otherwise Nostradamus would have written: month 7 year 1999, or the 7th month of 1999.

This subtle difference can only be understood by French speaking people. Nostradamus was French, not English or American. In addition, we must think in OLD FRENCH, not in our current language of the 21st century. The days of the calendar weresn't described the same way we do now.

So, Nostradamus adds 7 months to (the full year) 1999: JULY 2000.

To July 2000 you add A 13 years CYCLE ('from the heaven / sky will come a cycle of') that Hades (the 13th card of the tarot) represents.

The final result is therefore: JULY 2013.

It's so easy that even a child can understand.

By the way, 'The Great King of Angolmois' can't be the Antichrist, or Satan, for they CAN'T BE RESURRECTED (brought back to life). The ONLY ONE known by Nostradamus to have resurrected from the deads (whose god / King is Hades) is...THE CHRIST.
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The king of Europe will come like a griffon,
accompanied by those of the North;
he will lead a great troop of red and white,
they will go against the king of Babylon - X.80
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It makes sense. In that case, The King of Europe would be Prince William in the future. Red and White = England. Or other Northern countries.
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It seems you didn't understand. What is the ORIGINAL SENTENCE?

French Version:

1) L'an mil neuf cens nonante neuf sept mois,
2) Du ciel viendra un gran Roy effrayeur.
3) Resusciter le grand Roy d'Angolmois.
4) Avant apres Mars regner par bon heur.

English Translation:

1) The year thousand nine hundred ninety nine seven month,
2) From the heaven there will come a great King of Terror:
3)To bring back to life the great King of Angolmois,
4) Before after Mars to reign by good luck.

The way the numbers / words are given - their order - let us think about an addition: year 1000 + 900 + 99 + 7 months.

Otherwise Nostradamus would have written: month 7 year 1999, or the 7th month of 1999.

This subtle difference can only be understood by French speaking people. Nostradamus was French, not English or American. In addition, we must think in OLD FRENCH, not in our current language of the 21st century. The days of the calendar weresn't described the same way we do now.

So, Nostradamus adds 7 months to (the full year) 1999: JULY 2000.

To July 2000 you add A 13 years CYCLE ('from the heaven / sky will come a cycle of') that Hades (the 13th card of the tarot) represents.

The final result is therefore: JULY 2013.

It's so easy that even a child can understand.

By the way, 'The Great King of Angolmois' can't be the Antichrist, or Satan, for they CAN'T BE RESURRECTED (brought back to life). The ONLY ONE known by Nostradamus to have resurrected from the deads (whose god / King is Hades) is...THE CHRIST.
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...


:blinker: You have no respect for the bible do you.

Psa 2:6 Yet have I set my king upon my holy hill of Zion.
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I have a great respect for the Bible, so great that I don't put things that don't belong to it. Do you?

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:9teen: No and I fail to see your point.
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My point is that Christ never told us, neither his apostle, that He won't come back as a child for his return. NEVER!
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I agree. Christ could come back as a child.
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We are talking about 'POWER and GLORY' of the Christ's Return. Look at it: This baby has already his wikipedia page BEFORE BEING BORN...

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

where you can read that...

The Washington Post described it as "the world’s most famous baby".

Isn't it the first time wikipedia talks about someone NOT already existing...but so much awaited?
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It seems you didn't understand. What is the ORIGINAL SENTENCE?

French Version:

1) L'an mil neuf cens nonante neuf sept mois,
2) Du ciel viendra un gran Roy effrayeur.
3) Resusciter le grand Roy d'Angolmois.
4) Avant apres Mars regner par bon heur.

English Translation:

1) The year thousand nine hundred ninety nine seven month,
2) From the heaven there will come a great King of Terror:
3)To bring back to life the great King of Angolmois,
4) Before after Mars to reign by good luck.

The way the numbers / words are given - their order - let us think about an addition: year 1000 + 900 + 99 + 7 months.

Otherwise Nostradamus would have written: month 7 year 1999, or the 7th month of 1999.

This subtle difference can only be understood by French speaking people. Nostradamus was French, not English or American. In addition, we must think in OLD FRENCH, not in our current language of the 21st century. The days of the calendar weresn't described the same way we do now.

So, Nostradamus adds 7 months to (the full year) 1999: JULY 2000.

To July 2000 you add A 13 years CYCLE ('from the heaven / sky will come a cycle of') that Hades (the 13th card of the tarot) represents.

The final result is therefore: JULY 2013.

It's so easy that even a child can understand.

By the way, 'The Great King of Angolmois' can't be the Antichrist, or Satan, for they CAN'T BE RESURRECTED (brought back to life). The ONLY ONE known by Nostradamus to have resurrected from the deads (whose god / King is Hades) is...THE CHRIST.
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Thank you for this!

hf
Nostradamus Century 1: Quatrain 50
From the water trinity will be born,
One who will make Thursday as his holiday.
His renown, praise, rule, and power increase,
By land and sea to the East by storm.
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It seems you didn't understand. What is the ORIGINAL SENTENCE?

French Version:

1) L'an mil neuf cens nonante neuf sept mois,
2) Du ciel viendra un gran Roy effrayeur.
3) Resusciter le grand Roy d'Angolmois.
4) Avant apres Mars regner par bon heur.

English Translation:

1) The year thousand nine hundred ninety nine seven month,
2) From the heaven there will come a great King of Terror:
3)To bring back to life the great King of Angolmois,
4) Before after Mars to reign by good luck.

The way the numbers / words are given - their order - let us think about an addition: year 1000 + 900 + 99 + 7 months.

Otherwise Nostradamus would have written: month 7 year 1999, or the 7th month of 1999.

This subtle difference can only be understood by French speaking people. Nostradamus was French, not English or American. In addition, we must think in OLD FRENCH, not in our current language of the 21st century. The days of the calendar weresn't described the same way we do now.

So, Nostradamus adds 7 months to (the full year) 1999: JULY 2000.

To July 2000 you add A 13 years CYCLE ('from the heaven / sky will come a cycle of') that Hades (the 13th card of the tarot) represents.

The final result is therefore: JULY 2013.

It's so easy that even a child can understand.

By the way, 'The Great King of Angolmois' can't be the Antichrist, or Satan, for they CAN'T BE RESURRECTED (brought back to life). The ONLY ONE known by Nostradamus to have resurrected from the deads (whose god / King is Hades) is...THE CHRIST.
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Thank you for this!

hf
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WELCOME.

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It seems you didn't understand. What is the ORIGINAL SENTENCE?

French Version:

1) L'an mil neuf cens nonante neuf sept mois,
2) Du ciel viendra un gran Roy effrayeur.
3) Resusciter le grand Roy d'Angolmois.
4) Avant apres Mars regner par bon heur.

English Translation:

1) The year thousand nine hundred ninety nine seven month,
2) From the heaven there will come a great King of Terror:
3)To bring back to life the great King of Angolmois,
4) Before after Mars to reign by good luck.

The way the numbers / words are given - their order - let us think about an addition: year 1000 + 900 + 99 + 7 months.

Otherwise Nostradamus would have written: month 7 year 1999, or the 7th month of 1999.

This subtle difference can only be understood by French speaking people. Nostradamus was French, not English or American. In addition, we must think in OLD FRENCH, not in our current language of the 21st century. The days of the calendar weresn't described the same way we do now.

So, Nostradamus adds 7 months to (the full year) 1999: JULY 2000.

To July 2000 you add A 13 years CYCLE ('from the heaven / sky will come a cycle of') that Hades (the 13th card of the tarot) represents.

The final result is therefore: JULY 2013.

It's so easy that even a child can understand.
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BUT - did Nostradamus base his predictions on the Julian calendar? He died in 1566 and the Gregorian calendar started in 1582 - so if his dates related to the Julian, they would be a bit different. Just sayin'
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Very good remark. This has been addressed in this thread already. To convert a date of the Julian calendar (Nostradamus' time) into a Gregorian calendar (the one we actually use) you can go to:

[link to www.fourmilab.ch]

When you enter July 1st 2013 in the Julian calendar, you have July 14th 2013 in the Gregorian calendar.

As a matter of fact, Prince William's son is due around July 13th 2013...in our current calendar. We have to admit that is a very good prediction!

ohyeah
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Very good remark. This has been addressed in this thread already. To convert a date of the Julian calendar (Nostradamus' time) into a Gregorian calendar (the one we actually use) you can go to:

[link to www.fourmilab.ch]

When you enter July 1st 2013 in the Julian calendar, you have July 14th 2013 in the Gregorian calendar.

As a matter of fact, Prince William's son is due around July 13th 2013...in our current calendar. We have to admit that is a very good prediction!

ohyeah
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^this
Nostradamus Century 1: Quatrain 50
From the water trinity will be born,
One who will make Thursday as his holiday.
His renown, praise, rule, and power increase,
By land and sea to the East by storm.
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Very good remark. This has been addressed in this thread already. To convert a date of the Julian calendar (Nostradamus' time) into a Gregorian calendar (the one we actually use) you can go to:

[link to www.fourmilab.ch]

When you enter July 1st 2013 in the Julian calendar, you have July 14th 2013 in the Gregorian calendar.

As a matter of fact, Prince William's son is due around July 13th 2013...in our current calendar. We have to admit that is a very good prediction!

ohyeah
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:^this:
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Mark my words. There will be something strange about this child birth. I guess it won't be publicly known at the beginning. But I can be wrong. This could be leaked in a way or another. I do believe this child will in the Bright Side of the Force.
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Why is Prince William NOT the Antichrist?

Read this part of the Letter to the Very Christian King HENRYC SECONDUS written by Nostradamus, king that will be the Great Monarch that Nostradamus warns about his mission.

« Puis, le grand Empire de l'Antéchrist commencera dans la Attila et Zerses descendre en nombre grand et innombrable, tellement que la venue du Saint-Esprit procédant du 48e degré fera transmigration, déchassant à l'abomination de l'Antéchrist ».

'Then, le great Empire of the Antichrist will start in the Attila and Zerses come down in so many great numbers that the coming of the Holy Spirit proceeding at the 48th degree will make transmigration, chasing away the abomination of the Antichrist.'


Nostradamus clearly states that the Great Monarch (The Great King of Angolmois) will fight the antichrist.

The Holy Spirit is the action of the benevolent extraterrestrials. They will come in a place situated on the 48th parallel to take someone - the future Great Monarch - to make transmigration of his soul into a future king...to fight the Antichrist. Nostradamus says that the Great Monarch will be of French origin. It means that this location where the benevolent ETs will come is a French city ON the 48th parallel. There are not that many. Orleans, for instance...

Attila and Zerses seem to be a coalition of Russians and Arabs (Persia). BUT NOSTRADAMUS DON'T SAY THEY ARE THE ANTICHRIST. HE SAYS THAT THE ANTICHRIST WILL START [A WAR] IN THE REGIONS OF THE WORLD WHERE ATTILA AND ZERSES USED TO LIVE!

Now, you can see who could be the Antichrist.


HENRYC is also CHYREN, its anagram, in the quatrains of Nostradamus.

[link to www.prophet666.com]

CENTURY VI VLXX


Au chef du monde le grand Chyren fera,
Plus ovltre apres aymé, craint, redouté,
Son bruit & los les cieux fur paffera,
Et du feul titre Victeur, fort contenté

The great Chyren will be Chief of the world,
Plus Ultra behind, loved, feared, dreaded,
His fame and praise will go beyond the heavens,
And he will he be more satisfied with the title of Victor.


I can't tell you why this following quatrain is of most importance, but it is a key to better understand who will be the Great Monarch / Chyren / Henryc the Secondus. JUST SAY TUNED TO THE PLACES PRINCE WILLIAM WILL GO TO.

A lot of people think 'secondus' stands for 'the second', but it means, in old French, THE RESCUER.

CENTURY IX XLI


Le grand Chyren foy faifir d'Auignon,
De Romme letres en miel plein d'amertume,
Letre ambaffade partir de Chanignon,
Carpentras pris par duc noir rouge plume.

The great Chyren will seize Avignon
,
From Rome letters like honey full of bitterness,
Letter and embassy to leave from Chanignon,
Carpentras taken by a black duke with a red feather.
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48° latitude... island sein in britany... ile de sein...for the moon god. great monarch chyren par le grand croissant, by the great crescent.
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chyren selin sein... se""l""in but I'm saying too much, he will find refuge on an island and never forget that:

island dumet in loire-atlantique for the last monarch of france, fortresse and castle RA.
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I think this finding could deserve to be pinned. What do you think?
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I think this finding could deserve to be pinned. What do you think?
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I think you have had too much to Think.
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48° latitude... island sein in britany... ile de sein...for the moon god. great monarch chyren par le grand croissant, by the great crescent.
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Then again... also on the 48th parallel is Isle Royale, Michigan. Just thinking totally outside the box.

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Or it could mean you are retarded as fuck and keep posting this bullshit and connecting dots that don't actually exist?

Why in the fuck would he bother to put the YEAR OF THE INCIDENT there, and magically, when it doesn't happen, you nitwits will manage to dot connect some bullshit from the quatrain, and re-translate it to be relevant ANYTIME YOU WANT. WHY? Cause you are full of shit.
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Or it could mean you are retarded as fuck and keep posting this bullshit and connecting dots that don't actually exist?

Why in the fuck would he bother to put the YEAR OF THE INCIDENT there, and magically, when it doesn't happen, you nitwits will manage to dot connect some bullshit from the quatrain, and re-translate it to be relevant ANYTIME YOU WANT. WHY? Cause you are full of shit.
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This is a large forum full of many different types of threads. If you think Nostradamus threads are full of bullshit the answer's easy - DON'T FUCKIN READ THEM!
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chyren selin sein... se""l""in but I'm saying too much, he will find refuge on an island and never forget that:

island dumet in loire-atlantique for the last monarch of france, fortresse and castle RA.
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SELIN = LIENS = LINKS

You just have to understand what LINKS Nostradamus speaks about.

Island Dumet near Saint-Nazaire , France on 47 13 N 1 32 W

It's NOT 48 degrees North.
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48° latitude... island sein in britany... ile de sein...for the moon god. great monarch chyren par le grand croissant, by the great crescent.
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The great crescent...hmmm. Look at what day we are tomorrow for the muslim...abduct

Island of Sein:

not the slightest odd for the Great Monarch to go there:

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48° latitude... island sein in britany... ile de sein...for the moon god. great monarch chyren par le grand croissant, by the great crescent.
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Then again... also on the 48th parallel is Isle Royale, Michigan. Just thinking totally outside the box.

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It's not in France...1dunno1
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Or it could mean you are retarded as fuck and keep posting this bullshit and connecting dots that don't actually exist?

Why in the fuck would he bother to put the YEAR OF THE INCIDENT there, and magically, when it doesn't happen, you nitwits will manage to dot connect some bullshit from the quatrain, and re-translate it to be relevant ANYTIME YOU WANT. WHY? Cause you are full of shit.
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You will see very soon how true all of this will be.

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Where ever IT is

no one will be able to predict it really

catch everyone by surprise

For years, the theories have flowed

every one is always wrong


If you are talking about the Anti christ

he will come and catch all by surprise

this is my theory

Christ coming : you need to read the Bible for this

Christ is NOT born in this time

he lived and died on the cross and rose and it alive now on another plane and will return

OUt of the Heavens.

Read the bible.
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The Bible doesn't say HOW Christ will return!!!!!!!!!
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Read the Book of Revelation of John

It certainly does
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I never said that the birth of William's son will be natural. I do believe it will be supernatural.

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He will come down from Heaven just as they saw Him go. Appearing to be the same age and in the same manner.
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Only the first sentence matches the bible. The second is a figment of your imagination.
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Only the first sentence matches the bible. The second is a figment of your imagination.
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The Christ will come back as he left this Earth...IN A SPACESHIP!

This is the 'way' (the 'manner') the Scriptures speaks about, AND ONLY THIS WAY. Christ IS NOT described as a grown up when he has to come back. You won't find this in the whole Bible. This false idea is just a speculation, an inference of our imagination and narrow-minded beliefs.

You could ask the same way why Jesus-Christ was born as a child and had to die like a simple man (even a simple criminal) while being the Son of God. There is no reason for him to return as a adult when you can clearly read in the Bible that the reincarnation was the common belief in THAT TIME (Jesus' Ministry).

Jesus was asked if John the Baptist was Elijah! Not the spirit of A prophet, but THIS prophet. There are numerous prophets in the Scriptures. There is then no reason to ask him if John The Baptist was Elijah in particular.

So, the reincarnation was clearly admitted in the early hours of the christianity (it was even a reason of a shism). It then means that Christ will be reincarnated for his return, but with a body created by the Heaven, aka the benevolent ETs. But his future ministry as the JUDGE will come when he will be a grown up!

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