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lets get factual. Can informed participants confirm this?

1- Basis of Masonry is Gnostics and Theosophy:
The creator was Wisdom or Adam Kamon

2- Evil & good are at the same level
3- Godhead is unknown. IHVH is a lesser bad god for humanity;
Lucifer is another lesser god but good for humanity
4- Christ was a tool of the Godhead, not of IHVH
5- New Jersulamen is a world under the some political and spiritual Lider
6- Royal secret is ability to kill and defence of Evil
7- Getting to the celestial lodge in practice means that important men keepliving in the mind of humanity
8- The arriving of spirits from Sirius to the Earth is just something minoritarian, not general belief

9- do not accept limits, free from idea of sin, like gods are
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What say you, participants?

I would add 'the end justifies the means'.
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lets get factual. Can informed participants confirm this?

1- Basis of Masonry is Gnostics and Theosophy:
The creator was Wisdom or Adam Kamon

2- Evil & good are at the same level
3- Godhead is unknown. IHVH is a lesser bad god for humanity;
Lucifer is another lesser god but good for humanity
4- Christ was a tool of the Godhead, not of IHVH
5- New Jersulamen is a world under the some political and spiritual Lider
6- Royal secret is ability to kill and defence of Evil
7- Getting to the celestial lodge in practice means that important men keepliving in the mind of humanity
8- The arriving of spirits from Sirius to the Earth is just something minoritarian, not general belief

9- do not accept limits, free from idea of sin, like gods are
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 40702571


Nope, this is totally wrong. Utter nonsense.

Try again....even funny.
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spock

What say you, participants?

I would add 'the end justifies the means'.
 Quoting: K.Kool


I'd say yes that is true. Whatever the cost to secure the objective is reasonable.
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The Freemasons follow the Mystery Babylonian religion of the Kaballah. Everything they do and base their KNOWLEDGE is Kabalistic. This is a belief that thru KNOWLEDGE we can become Gods.

The Kaballah was first realized in human history in Babylon. Then came their greatest achievement Egypt. Then came Greece then Rome, Britain then the United States. Ever Wonder why all the Federal building and Washington DC has all the Pagan influence in its architecture. How about the pentagram in the capital.

Do not let this power fool you. They are going to fall hard but first they will have their moment in time, and I hope they savor it . When they fall they will fall hard.
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spock

What say you, participants?

I would add 'the end justifies the means'.
 Quoting: K.Kool


I'd say yes that is true. Whatever the cost to secure the objective is reasonable.
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And reason trumps morals, right?
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spock

What say you, participants?

I would add 'the end justifies the means'.
 Quoting: K.Kool


I'd say yes that is true. Whatever the cost to secure the objective is reasonable.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 39486926



And reason trumps morals, right?
 Quoting: K.Kool


Morals at times are a luxury.
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spock

What say you, participants?

I would add 'the end justifies the means'.
 Quoting: K.Kool


spock

What say you, participants?

I would add 'the end justifies the means'.
 Quoting: K.Kool


Hmmmm....well,we know,they're not catholic priests, don't we?????pope2
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spock

What say you, participants?

I would add 'the end justifies the means'.
 Quoting: K.Kool


I'd say yes that is true. Whatever the cost to secure the objective is reasonable.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 39486926



And reason trumps morals, right?
 Quoting: K.Kool


Morals at times are a luxury.
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I would say it's more a case of luxuries corrupting moral strength.
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All I know is that they raped my aunts and tried to get my dad to suck dick
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lets get factual. Can informed participants confirm this?

1- Basis of Masonry is Gnostics and Theosophy:
The creator was Wisdom or Adam Kamon

2- Evil & good are at the same level
3- Godhead is unknown. IHVH is a lesser bad god for humanity;
Lucifer is another lesser god but good for humanity
4- Christ was a tool of the Godhead, not of IHVH
5- New Jersulamen is a world under the some political and spiritual Lider
6- Royal secret is ability to kill and defence of Evil
7- Getting to the celestial lodge in practice means that important men keepliving in the mind of humanity
8- The arriving of spirits from Sirius to the Earth is just something minoritarian, not general belief

9- do not accept limits, free from idea of sin, like gods are
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 40702571


In other words, if God and Jesus can do it, I can do it too and not expect to be treated like Satan. I like it. God is going to order the death of a significant percentage during Revelations, so I can do it, too!

Yay Hitler, Stalin, and Mao!
VarianceX77
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spock

What say you, participants?

I would add 'the end justifies the means'.
 Quoting: K.Kool


spock

What say you, participants?

I would add 'the end justifies the means'.
 Quoting: K.Kool


Hmmmm....well,we know,they're not catholic priests, don't we?????pope2
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25748337



We do, Catholic priests do not justify evil acts with reason.
They don't meet under oaths to secrecy and brotherhood,
and plot to keep the New World Order running to schedule.
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1- Basis of Masonry is Kabbalah:
The goal is unWisdom or 'Adam Qadmon' - the empty vessel sailing upon a silent sea. "The end shall be as the beginning" saith the neophyte to his master.

2- Evil & good are two sides of the same coin.
3- Godhead by it's nature cannot be known, ever. IHVH is merely a formula for structure in formless, void space
Lucifer is one part of that formula - IHI AVR
4- Christ (Meshiach) is the formula for achieving Adam Qadmon
5- New Jerusalem is another name for Zion, which is another name for planet Earth under rulership of the 'enlightened' (sigh!) & is actually the return to formless, void, darkness.
6- Royal Secret is understanding of the transmutation of opposites into truth - Truth sits at many tables.
7- Getting to the celestial lodge sounds very ghey apart from being apparently meaningless.
8- The arriving of spirits from Sirius to the Earth is just something minoritarian, not general belief... & absolutely meaningless (err what?)

9- do not accept any limits beyond those of nature or common morality.
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We do, Catholic priests do not justify evil acts with reason.
They don't meet under oaths to secrecy and brotherhood,
and plot to keep the New World Order running to schedule.
 Quoting: K.Kool

WE are not the only Fraternity/Sorority that have secrets.
And an Oath is way of binding a person to a word.
Law Cpourts are a perfect example.
Brotherhood is "bonding"

Even women bond.


As for secrets........even the Vatican has secrets.
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The Freemasons have often been called satanic, which is something that they are very capable of fending off. While its rank and file members are ignorant of the purpose of the organization, some know. Freemasons deflect accusations of being a satanic society largely by employing the cover of being a philanthropic organization.

[link to www.xeeatwelve.com]
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The Freemasons have often been called satanic, which is something that they are very capable of fending off. While its rank and file members are ignorant of the purpose of the organization, some know. Freemasons deflect accusations of being a satanic society largely by employing the cover of being a philanthropic organization.

[link to www.xeeatwelve.com]
 Quoting: skogsgud


Society in general is satanic lol

Satan is the God of this world and will be God of this world until heaven and earth passes away. Just because he will go away for a thousand years doesn't mean he won't be a major influence during the millennium.

Jesus is going to be here, nobody will care about it after things settle down, and people will start going to strip clubs again. Jesus sitting on his throne while people like me snort coke off bitches. I'm not gonna pretend to be a saint lol

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lets get factual. Can informed participants confirm this?

1- Basis of Masonry is Gnostics and Theosophy:
The creator was Wisdom or Adam Kamon

2- Evil & good are at the same level
3- Godhead is unknown. IHVH is a lesser bad god for humanity;
Lucifer is another lesser god but good for humanity
4- Christ was a tool of the Godhead, not of IHVH
5- New Jersulamen is a world under the some political and spiritual Lider
6- Royal secret is ability to kill and defence of Evil
7- Getting to the celestial lodge in practice means that important men keepliving in the mind of humanity
8- The arriving of spirits from Sirius to the Earth is just something minoritarian, not general belief

9- do not accept limits, free from idea of sin, like gods are
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 40702571




lucifer is good for humanity eh? tell that to all those babies who were defiled to death outright and/or put through the fire to worship him...

guess it depends on which end of the weapon you're on eh?

lol

you'l find out soon enough what is acceptable and what is NOT

no sense confusing the issues at this late date

tick tock
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The Freemasons have often been called satanic, which is something that they are very capable of fending off. While its rank and file members are ignorant of the purpose of the organization, some know. Freemasons deflect accusations of being a satanic society largely by employing the cover of being a philanthropic organization.

[link to www.xeeatwelve.com]
 Quoting: skogsgud


Society in general is satanic lol

Satan is the God of this world and will be God of this world until heaven and earth passes away. Just because he will go away for a thousand years doesn't mean he won't be a major influence during the millennium.

Jesus is going to be here, nobody will care about it after things settle down, and people will start going to strip clubs again. Jesus sitting on his throne while people like me snort coke off bitches. I'm not gonna pretend to be a saint lol
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satan will be bound both body and spirit shortly when he's tossed back into the pit

only this time an extra band will be applied in everyones favor save for his own, when a band is also applied over his MOUTH

capisce?
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and when he is released at the END of the Millennium it will only be again, for a very short time

which is all the time it will take to once again allow all those who fail to overcome at the end of this current Age to once again be tested...

following which all failing to do so will follow their good buddy into the Lake of Fire and be blotted out

whereby none will have to babysit them in future forevermore

alls well that ends in that regard, permanently
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lets get factual. Can informed participants confirm this?

1- Basis of Masonry is Gnostics and Theosophy:
The creator was Wisdom or Adam Kamon

2- Evil & good are at the same level
3- Godhead is unknown. IHVH is a lesser bad god for humanity;
Lucifer is another lesser god but good for humanity
4- Christ was a tool of the Godhead, not of IHVH
5- New Jersulamen is a world under the some political and spiritual Lider
6- Royal secret is ability to kill and defence of Evil
7- Getting to the celestial lodge in practice means that important men keepliving in the mind of humanity
8- The arriving of spirits from Sirius to the Earth is just something minoritarian, not general belief

9- do not accept limits, free from idea of sin, like gods are
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 40702571




might as well cut the propriety and cut right to the quick of things, whatsay?

most don't know what they are supporting in the long haul, this is true

yet they are doing so, and that's a fact

and yes, it applies

what those of the lower eschelon are in truth to those dark minions at the top slinking around behind the curtain

is a "beard" and little more

I do hope we're clear
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you guys/gals need to check out the June 6 2013 thread.

origined from [link to www.gajonkafilmuniverse.blogspot.com]

this girl is a genius... i hear she is smoking hot, too.. like a runaway model.. or runway model, whichever u prefer.
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lets get factual. Can informed participants confirm this?

1- Basis of Masonry is Gnostics and Theosophy:
The creator was Wisdom or Adam Kamon

2- Evil & good are at the same level
3- Godhead is unknown. IHVH is a lesser bad god for humanity;
Lucifer is another lesser god but good for humanity
4- Christ was a tool of the Godhead, not of IHVH
5- New Jersulamen is a world under the some political and spiritual Lider
6- Royal secret is ability to kill and defence of Evil
7- Getting to the celestial lodge in practice means that important men keepliving in the mind of humanity
8- The arriving of spirits from Sirius to the Earth is just something minoritarian, not general belief

9- do not accept limits, free from idea of sin, like gods are
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 40702571


Yahweh is THE god
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We do, Catholic priests do not justify evil acts with reason.
They don't meet under oaths to secrecy and brotherhood,
and plot to keep the New World Order running to schedule.
 Quoting: K.Kool


WE are not the only Fraternity/Sorority that have secrets.
And an Oath is way of binding a person to a word.
Law Cpourts are a perfect example.
Brotherhood is "bonding"

Even women bond.


As for secrets........even the Vatican has secrets.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25748337



It's not about having secrets so much as being secret, your leaders are hiding, most of you are hiding, you take an oath to put 'the brotherhood' before any other loyalty or duty.
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We do, Catholic priests do not justify evil acts with reason.
They don't meet under oaths to secrecy and brotherhood,
and plot to keep the New World Order running to schedule.
 Quoting: K.Kool


WE are not the only Fraternity/Sorority that have secrets.
And an Oath is way of binding a person to a word.
Law Cpourts are a perfect example.
Brotherhood is "bonding"

Even women bond.


As for secrets........even the Vatican has secrets.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25748337



It's not about having secrets so much as being secret, your leaders are hiding, most of you are hiding, you take an oath to put 'the brotherhood' before any other loyalty or duty.
 Quoting: K.Kool


You really do need to get out more often, lady.
Magicians have secrets, they've sworn not to reveal.....and CocaCola even has its own secrecy where EVERY employee is bound by an oath.
You talk about DUTY.....we are bound To uphold our duty to our citizens, and country.
Really, there's nothing sinister in an oath where you pledge to maintain the welfare of others.

Does the Catholic Church have a duty to those who have suffered all these centuries.
If they do.........it's sadly lacking.
Just read the royal commission into child abuse, reports.
That Pell is a beauty........blaming archbishop little(.......and he's dead).

Freemasons are not evil, lady.
Get over yourself and hate.

.....and we don't hide, either.
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We do, Catholic priests do not justify evil acts with reason.
They don't meet under oaths to secrecy and brotherhood,
and plot to keep the New World Order running to schedule.
 Quoting: K.Kool


WE are not the only Fraternity/Sorority that have secrets.
And an Oath is way of binding a person to a word.
Law Cpourts are a perfect example.
Brotherhood is "bonding"

Even women bond.


As for secrets........even the Vatican has secrets.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25748337



It's not about having secrets so much as being secret, your leaders are hiding, most of you are hiding, you take an oath to put 'the brotherhood' before any other loyalty or duty.
 Quoting: K.Kool


You really do need to get out more often, lady.
Magicians have secrets, they've sworn not to reveal.....and CocaCola even has its own secrecy where EVERY employee is bound by an oath.
You talk about DUTY.....we are bound To uphold our duty to our citizens, and country.
Really, there's nothing sinister in an oath where you pledge to maintain the welfare of others.

Does the Catholic Church have a duty to those who have suffered all these centuries.
If they do.........it's sadly lacking.
Just read the royal commission into child abuse, reports.
That Pell is a beauty........blaming archbishop little(.......and he's dead).

Freemasons are not evil, lady.
Get over yourself and hate.

.....and we don't hide, either.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25748337



Your inner circle hides, (really, they are your rulers who can make demands on you that must be followed, despite your own moral sense) even if the foot-soldier masons practice community work.

In your case, 'others' are first and foremost other masons,
not your neighbour, country or religion, or race.
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Most Masons down at the bottom wouldn't even know the real truth behind the pyramid
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Most Masons down at the bottom wouldn't even know the real truth behind the pyramid
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True, but they will follow orders, not even knowing what the ultimate aim is..
and that aim is based on the end justifying the means,
the oldest excuse in the book for perpetrating immoral and violent acts.
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lets get factual. Can informed participants confirm this?

1- Basis of Masonry is Gnostics and Theosophy:
The creator was Wisdom or Adam Kamon

2- Evil & good are at the same level
3- Godhead is unknown. IHVH is a lesser bad god for humanity;
Lucifer is another lesser god but good for humanity
4- Christ was a tool of the Godhead, not of IHVH
5- New Jersulamen is a world under the some political and spiritual Lider
6- Royal secret is ability to kill and defence of Evil
7- Getting to the celestial lodge in practice means that important men keepliving in the mind of humanity
8- The arriving of spirits from Sirius to the Earth is just something minoritarian, not general belief

9- do not accept limits, free from idea of sin, like gods are
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Longtime Mason here. Also Companion of the HRA and SPRS (32*).

1. No. The basis of Masonry is using stoneworking tools "the working tools" as a means of symbolizing how we should plan our days and live our lives as we strive to make our lives worth while to our families and communities.

2. No. Evil, per se, has no place in Masonry. Although, we often say "we all hang our own plumb lines" (meaning that people's morals may not be identical).

3. God is whichever "god" you worship. You should have all the faith in the world for that god. For myself and every other Mason I know, that god is the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. All Masonic allegories revolve around stories of this God and the Bible.

4. Christ is whatever you think he is. Religion is not a part of Masonry. There is no religious instruction in Masonry. To illustrate concepts, stories and allegories related to the Bible are used but that's because at the time the allegories were made, knowledge of the Bible was almost universal among educated people. They were already familiar with the stories.

5. Not a part of Masonry.

6. Not even close.

7. That's one meaning. But it's more commonly used like saying someone went to "a better place" or "that big roller Derby in the sky" or whatever heaven can colloquially be called.

8. Not a part of Masonry.

9. That goes directly AGAINST the symbols of the compass and square. So that's definitely not right.

Hope this helped.
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lets get factual. Can informed participants confirm this?

1- Basis of Masonry is Gnostics and Theosophy:
The creator was Wisdom or Adam Kamon

2- Evil & good are at the same level
3- Godhead is unknown. IHVH is a lesser bad god for humanity;
Lucifer is another lesser god but good for humanity
4- Christ was a tool of the Godhead, not of IHVH
5- New Jersulamen is a world under the some political and spiritual Lider
6- Royal secret is ability to kill and defence of Evil
7- Getting to the celestial lodge in practice means that important men keepliving in the mind of humanity
8- The arriving of spirits from Sirius to the Earth is just something minoritarian, not general belief

9- do not accept limits, free from idea of sin, like gods are
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 40702571


Longtime Mason here. Also Companion of the HRA and SPRS (32*).

1. No. The basis of Masonry is using stoneworking tools "the working tools" as a means of symbolizing how we should plan our days and live our lives as we strive to make our lives worth while to our families and communities.

2. No. Evil, per se, has no place in Masonry. Although, we often say "we all hang our own plumb lines" (meaning that people's morals may not be identical).

3. God is whichever "god" you worship. You should have all the faith in the world for that god. For myself and every other Mason I know, that god is the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. All Masonic allegories revolve around stories of this God and the Bible.

4. Christ is whatever you think he is. Religion is not a part of Masonry. There is no religious instruction in Masonry. To illustrate concepts, stories and allegories related to the Bible are used but that's because at the time the allegories were made, knowledge of the Bible was almost universal among educated people. They were already familiar with the stories.

5. Not a part of Masonry.

6. Not even close.

7. That's one meaning. But it's more commonly used like saying someone went to "a better place" or "that big roller Derby in the sky" or whatever heaven can colloquially be called.

8. Not a part of Masonry.

9. That goes directly AGAINST the symbols of the compass and square. So that's definitely not right.

Hope this helped.
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And what do you say about the charge of the end justifying the means?

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