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Hola. I am trying to connect with others from the same cohort. Some guy that was doing the basic math on MK trials from the leftover documents available said that they were running several thousand people through each sub-trial/cohort, so it's a bit of a needle in a haystack kind of thing.

Here are snips of my story (copied and pasted from other threads I've left them in). If they match some of yours, send a message if you please:


I grew up with people actively involved in human experimentation and DoD research. They didn't even hide it except when it suited them to. The dinner conversation was like no other family dinner conversation on earth - that I can promise. I would sit there munching food while listening to the day's atrocities mundanely or excitedly discussed. I had a lot of really screwed up experiences myself, a lot of abuse, a lot of exploitation, etcetera especially while in their care. I never knew what to make of it, never really understood what it was about. I was lost, confused, and the only advice I had to go on up until that point was bad. One day about 2 years ago now, I got to talking about the past with one of their retired colleagues and someone I always considered a friend - and he broke down in tears and told me that they and my problem were mk ultra.

The core persons that I had the most contact with entered the CIA out of a top level university sometime around the late 60s, early 70s. Two of them in particular kept their affiliation with the university where a lot of research continued to take place - mainly in the areas of interrogation and mental manipulation through various means (drugs, radiation, visual stimulation) that I heard discussed and/or was there to catch a glimpse of. The one I fucking hate the most had significant contact with pretty much every would be but will never be president - in other words they handled the independent candidates. I have met the vast majority of would be presidents running on that ticket for the last couple of decades. I do not know anyone's rank - but based on their affiliations and academic background - they were probably on the low end of the top of the totem pole.

As for what types of MC - There was plenty of trauma based (repetitive drowning, being screamed at until I would tuck away the memories that I wasn't supposed to remember, things I don't feel comfortable going into but that match other's stories of ritual child abuse,etc), there were drugs that remind me of descriptions of how datura/angel trumpets act, there was hypnosis combined with hypnotic drugs, hypnotic regression, and suggestions galore.

I would be lied to about where and when I was. The year would be wrong (they once told me I was in 1983 but there was a show playing on the television that did not release until 1994). I was told that the neighborhood surrounding the JFK airport was actually a Connecticut suburb, and I believed them that Iwas in CT and not NY. It has taken ages and methodical dillegence to untangle even some of it.

There was this one time in particular. We were being sent to the theater regularly to go watch a movie - innocent enough, right? Except that it was a private viewing room in the back of the movie theater with no public access and the experience was nothing like an average movie goers experience.

I had this one friend that was there sometimes and one day he "wakes up" - we all woke up sometimes, no drug or suggestion is perfect all of the time - and he piles us all into a car and we just start driving and driving, taking back routes and just getting as far away as we possibly could. But I didn't realize that the drugs/suggestions would wear off while driving - and they did. And suddenly we're just driving, lost in the middle of bumfuck nowhere, and I don't remember why we're driving or what we were trying to escape. The drugs/suggestions were like that - once they wore off the entire experience we had just been through would be forgotten or seem unreal. So, we stopped in the next town, and I got on a phone and to the horror of the people I was with I called one of the people we were running from because I had forgotten who I was running from.
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I think a different "sect" got me. Interesting theory, when I read the MKUltra congressional hearing I was asking myself all kinds of questions.

How old are you? Where did you grow up? Did you have horses? Did you go to Disney in CA all the time?
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I think a different "sect" got me. Interesting theory, when I read the MKUltra congressional hearing I was asking myself all kinds of questions.

How old are you? Where did you grow up? Did you have horses? Did you go to Disney in CA all the time?
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Interesting links.
Why connect horses?

There were different amusement parks we went to. I was never given the correct names or locations. One was an aquarium type thing with a hotel/resort. One seemed kind of old/regional/smaller. I always assumed the Disney one was in Florida, but god knows I've been misled about location before.
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How do we know that you are not an agent helping to identify and round up?
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How do we know that you are not an agent helping to identify and round up?
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Anyone that is honest with themselves will know that we're all a risk in that regard. See the little tale above about my calling the people we were running from.

As for an agent identifying - we're not talking about a one time research participant cohort. We are talking about people that have been in for decades, so already well identified by those that would do harm. It's about time we knew as well.
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I hate to say it but it's possible most are either dead, living on the fringes of society with severe mental illness, confined to institutions, or joined up with the dark side.

Your posts are always interesting and inspiring. I hope you wind up finding others. I'd like to get answers on my history but don't hold out much hope of it.


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I hate to say it but it's possible most are either dead, living on the fringes of society with severe mental illness, confined to institutions, or joined up with the dark side.

Your posts are always interesting and inspiring. I hope you wind up finding others. I'd like to get answers on my history but don't hold out much hope of it.


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hugs

The ones I've seen in the last decade or so are "riding herds", i.e. influencing groups on the ground and in the MSM. Everyone seems on course but me lol...which makes me wonder if I'm on course too somehow.
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I hate to say it but it's possible most are either dead, living on the fringes of society with severe mental illness, confined to institutions, or joined up with the dark side.

Your posts are always interesting and inspiring. I hope you wind up finding others. I'd like to get answers on my history but don't hold out much hope of it.


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hugs

The ones I've seen in the last decade or so are "riding herds", i.e. influencing groups on the ground and in the MSM. Everyone seems on course but me lol...which makes me wonder if I'm on course too somehow.
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Do you know what course they are on or to what end? What do you think all of these programs are really about? Do you think different groups have different objectives and are at odds or are really working together toward the same goal?

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Do you know what course they are on or to what end? What do you think all of these programs are really about? Do you think different groups have different objectives and are at odds or are really working together toward the same goal?

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That's almost a philosophical question.
But I can tell you what it looks like from my perspective and the programs I personally touched.

Some of the people I mentioned went through some of the same clandestine schools, the same programming, the same acting classes,the same clubs,etc that I was involved in to various degrees. So, they have a lot of the same influence and controllers and one would assume that they are under the same umbrella organization. They went on to lead and manage movements. If you think a grassroots movement has sprung up on it's own...I can guarantee it didn't, or if it did the second it started they arrived and took over. Remember how the CIA co-opted the 60s? That, exactly. Except I witnessed it in the 80s, 90s, 00s, and 10s. They're in government as well as the opposition. They lead everything, ever side that I have seen. It's a good tactic- one that I will always call riding the herd. If you control every herd, does it matter which one "wins" when you are still guaranteed a seat at the winning table?

Now..Is there infighting? Are the organizations run by nothing but people that infiltrated the organizations and their predecessors that infiltrated the organizations they originally came from? Does anyone know who they are fighting or what they are anymore when they are posing as and pushing forward the very agenda they supposedly hate? I would assume some do, but it all just gives me a fucking headache. When you have generations upon generations put through this stuff, it just becomes a mess. I have seen them sabotage both internally and externally...sabotage the organization they are in as well as the opposition. I have spent a significant amount of life with "what the fuck??" written across my face (figuratively).

For example.... I was raised in both houses: the group that was being infiltrated as well as the group doing the infiltrating. In other words, I spent a lot of time around the grass root people centered communities that were being infiltrated, but at the end of the day I was having dinner with people with completely opposite motives that just dressed and spoke like they belonged. In reality they were there to sabotage or experiment upon those communities without their knowledge - and they spoke about it when out of earshot of the communities but within earshot of me. I didn't know which way was up. I didn't know who or what I was or where my loyalties should be. I had some values from one side and some values from the other. Give that a generation or four and then stir. The world is fucked.

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I should add that many probably don't even know what they are doing. The power of suggestion can be huge, especially if in conjunction with certain substances. It can make a person want, I mean really want, to lead a certain life without even knowing why. Someone may truly believe in the cause they portray, which is why - especially in person - we believe them to be true and put our faith in them as leaders. It can also make them report back or have other seemingly conflicting behaviors.
The school of acting I witnessed is a whole different level than the mainstream.
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For a fascinating, if a little appalling, read

Much love to you

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I should add that many probably don't even know what they are doing. The power of suggestion can be huge, especially if in conjunction with certain substances. It can make a person want, I mean really want, to lead a certain life without even knowing why. Someone may truly believe in the cause they portray, which is why - especially in person - we believe them to be true and put our faith in them as leaders. It can also make them report back or have other seemingly conflicting behaviors.
The school of acting I witnessed is a whole different level than the mainstream.
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Do you think it's for some sort of spiritual purpose (not necessarily good) rather than politics or social control?

Do you think it is limited to human involvement or something else may be driving it on some level?




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Do you think it's for some sort of spiritual purpose (not necessarily good) rather than politics or social control?

Do you think it is limited to human involvement or something else may be driving it on some level?


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I'm an atheist. You would have to ask someone that still has enough faith in humanity to have some left over to have blind faith and belief in gods.

I've sat through ceremonies where people worshiped their gods (i.e. churches and other religions) and I've sat through ceremonies where something "darker" got lip service. But do I think any of the people in the pews/audience actually believe that shite? No. It's just a ritual to keep fragile societies and traditions bonded, not an actual belief system..not for anyone I ever met anyway.
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For a fascinating, if a little appalling, read

Much love to you

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Do you think it's for some sort of spiritual purpose (not necessarily good) rather than politics or social control?

Do you think it is limited to human involvement or something else may be driving it on some level?


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I'm an atheist. You would have to ask someone that still has enough faith in humanity to have some left over to have blind faith and belief in gods.

I've sat through ceremonies where people worshiped their gods (i.e. churches and other religions) and I've sat through ceremonies where something "darker" got lip service. But do I think any of the people in the pews/audience actually believe that shite? No. It's just a ritual to keep fragile societies and traditions bonded, not an actual belief system..not for anyone I ever met anyway.
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Very interesting.

What about alien involvement? Do they believe they are working for or against something extraterrestrial?

I'm guessing there is some sort of hierarchy or pyramid structure to the whole thing or at least for the different groups. Did you ever get a sense that sort of cohesion and conspiracy supersedes national borders?

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Very interesting.

What about alien involvement? Do they believe they are working for or against something extraterrestrial?

I'm guessing there is some sort of hierarchy or pyramid structure to the whole thing or at least for the different groups. Did you ever get a sense that sort of cohesion and conspiracy supersedes national borders?

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Of course things supersede borders. Borders are for nothing but control of population movement and to create national loyalties/an outside enemy in order to keep cohesion. It's a basic control mechanism.

As for aliens. Sorry. Never met one. I did meet a girl once that was being abused horribly by her family and one time they turned on the Christmas lights and wore alien masks in an effort to discredit any tales of abuse she might tell by making sure she would sound bat shit crazy and delusional going on and on about aliens.

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What was the movie they made you watch? (referred to in OP)
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What was the movie they made you watch? (referred to in OP)
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There was live acting, live entertainment, served beverages. Not so much a movie, at least not the parts I remember, it just happened to be in a movie theater.


Now, at the university, in the psychology building at night they ran a series where they had students watching war and horror movies while doped on something in what I'm guessing was the LSD family (based on the reactions). But that was a different location.
..one of the horror movies was Single White Female.

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What was the movie they made you watch? (referred to in OP)
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There was live acting, live entertainment, served beverages. Not so much a movie, at least not the parts I remember, it just happened to be in a movie theater.


Now, at the university, in the psychology building at night they ran a series where they had students watching war and horror movies while doped on something in what I'm guessing was the LSD family (based on the reactions). But that was a different location.
..one of the horror movies was Single White Female.
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Do you remember what the live theater performance was about?

Did they ask you questions or set up similar situations in your regular life later to see how you would respond?

Was there any sort of theme to them looking back or a specific actor or director for more than one of them?

Re: the christmas lights and aliens... my dad dressed up like the devil with the smoke machine and strobe lights. As a teenager, he insisted I attend a dress rehearsal late at night for a theater production that never opened with a poorly written script that referenced our disturbed family dynamics.

Our experiences are probably not from the same cohort, coven, faction, but it's interesting to see that they all use similar methods.

Have you seen the documentary about General Butt Naked, the Liberian warlord? He used drugs and movies with the same actors in some of them to program his child soldiers and convince them that they were living in a movie and the people they killed would just go on to different movies.

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Do you remember what the live theater performance was about?

Did they ask you questions or set up similar situations in your regular life later to see how you would respond?

Was there any sort of theme to them looking back or a specific actor or director for more than one of them?

Re: the christmas lights and aliens... my dad dressed up like the devil with the smoke machine and strobe lights. As a teenager, he insisted I attend a dress rehearsal late at night for a theater production that never opened with a poorly written script that referenced our disturbed family dynamics.

Our experiences are probably not from the same cohort, coven, faction, but it's interesting to see that they all use similar methods.

Have you seen the documentary about General Butt Naked, the Liberian warlord? He used drugs and movies with the same actors in some of them to program his child soldiers and convince them that they were living in a movie and the people they killed would just go on to different movies.

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I was actually able to reverse engineer several methods because they were/are used so frequently, like a by the book type of thing. People are like that, once they find something that works they share it and use it to death.

I'll have to think about the performances. My memory tends to go fuzzy or blank at the point where I had been calm or sitting for a bit, which I was for parts of the show that required attention. I always assumed I had been drugged and once I quit moving and the blood quit pumping so hard, the tranquilizer effect just completely kicked in and knocked out the memories.

The movies combined with testing at the university were mostly Vietnam type stuff, all blood and suffering and war. The battle scenes stuck with me.

I've been through "missions" to infiltrate (we used a much nicer word) organizations, only to find out they were actually being run, at least in part, by the people that had sent us on the mission. So in that regard there's been some testing along the way as well. Not sure how I did.

I'll have to look up the Liberian warlord documentary.

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I can relate to parts of your story, I had prison warder parents who did everything they could to inflict psychological damage, it's all subtle stuff though, difficult to prove and to object to - they seemed like 'normal' people to the neighbours. Dad was a mason.
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Did they ask you questions or set up similar situations in your regular life later to see how you would respond?

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This. I missed the first time.
After I had been sent to a place and had come back and the memory had gotten fuzzy, there was someone staying at my home that would ask me about the place I had just been to, like they were testing my memory to see if I could recall anything. Or sometimes they would tell me stories about the place as if it was them who had been there.

For ages there was one place I was visiting that I thought the memories of were just my very active imagination because they had told me stories about the place after I had been there. It wasn't until I got a printout of the layout and decor of the building - including parts I remembered in detail but that no one had ever told me about - that I realized I had actually been in there.
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I can relate to parts of your story, I had prison warder parents who did everything they could to inflict psychological damage, it's all subtle stuff though, difficult to prove and to object to - they seemed like 'normal' people to the neighbours. Dad was a mason.
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hugs

My guardian was an amazing actor. They could be satan one minute and the most reserved and likable person the next. It wasn't even just their mood, it was as if they could throw on completely different personas, and there were a few.

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OP, thank you for sharing this. You sound legit.

There are many other groups that do mind control. It's not all MK Ultra.

This guy had mind control done on him while in the U.S. Navy, and got a lot of his memories back and found ways to clear out the drugs.

[link to www.TheMarsRecords.com]
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OP, thank you for sharing this. You sound legit.

There are many other groups that do mind control. It's not all MK Ultra.

This guy had mind control done on him while in the U.S. Navy, and got a lot of his memories back and found ways to clear out the drugs.

[link to www.TheMarsRecords.com]
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Gah, they mention time travel on there. One of my pet peeves.

I clearly remember being regressed (hypnosis, suggestions) through several different years during one session and believing it was each of those years. Add that to the time mentioned in the OP where I saw a 1994 TV show in 1983. I damn well know I didn't actually time travel back to 1983, I was just tricked into thinking it was a different time than it was.

So, how fucked in the head do people need to be to come to the conclusion that rather than simple drugs, hypnosis, or trickery; instead someone built a freaking time machine and stuck them in it??

There's one group of MKs that have come together.. They're all over youtube with their conferences. And they claim they are time travelers because they all came to one location at the same time but it was different seasons or years to each of them. Well, no shit Sherlock, your heads have been fucked with. How else can you be in different years and seasons but in the same room at the same time? I don't even think time travel would work like that.


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Did they ask you questions or set up similar situations in your regular life later to see how you would respond?

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This. I missed the first time.
After I had been sent to a place and had come back and the memory had gotten fuzzy, there was someone staying at my home that would ask me about the place I had just been to, like they were testing my memory to see if I could recall anything. Or sometimes they would tell me stories about the place as if it was them who had been there.

For ages there was one place I was visiting that I thought the memories of were just my very active imagination because they had told me stories about the place after I had been there. It wasn't until I got a printout of the layout and decor of the building - including parts I remembered in detail but that no one had ever told me about - that I realized I had actually been in there.
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I look forward to hearing more about what you can remember from the themes of the play and movies, etc.

Your reply jogged something for me with my parents questioning me about criminal acts I witnessed my father do as a small child. As a terrified toddler, I assumed if they thought i remembered or understood anything they would kill me so I always lied and played dumb like I couldn't remember anything.

Playing dumb over many years about things that were 'off' and pretending we had a normal life and relationship actually got them to play freer and looser to the height of ridiculousness with the tricks they would try to play on me.

Oh, the stories I could tell... and maybe I will someday. Your threads give me courage.

My hope is that someday maybe some desperate and vulnerable person looking for answers will google a few things and be able to some answers or affirmation that they are not alone or crazy. It was late night internet searching for key words that helped break a lot of things loose for me a long time ago and helped me break away from my wardens/family of origin.

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I look forward to hearing more about what you can remember from the themes of the play and movies, etc.

Your reply jogged something for me with my parents questioning me about criminal acts I witnessed my father do as a small child. As a terrified toddler, I assumed if they thought i remembered or understood anything they would kill me so I always lied and played dumb like I couldn't remember anything.

Playing dumb over many years about things that were 'off' and pretending we had a normal life and relationship actually got them to play freer and looser to the height of ridiculousness with the tricks they would try to play on me.

Oh, the stories I could tell... and maybe I will someday. Your threads give me courage.

My hope is that someday maybe some desperate and vulnerable person looking for answers will google a few things and be able to some answers or affirmation that they are not alone or crazy. It was late night internet searching for key words that helped break a lot of things loose for me a long time ago and helped me break away from my wardens/family of origin.

hf
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Reminds me of when my guardian would go into a screaming session of questioning until I denied everything I had been through or witnessed to the point where even I thought I hadn't been there.

The most blatant time was when I had been going to regular appointments for these psych/medical/interrogation type sessions (that's a whole can of worms by itself). She brought me there one day, took me into the guard's office, showed me recordings on the monitors that clearly showed me going into the building multiple times on my own - and then she proceeded to scream at me until I denied the visual images that were right in front of me and truly believed the things in the recordings didn't happen. It's scary how easily I bent my view of reality to match what was expected of me.

Hopefully we can all help each other out a little :)
God knows someone has to.
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I can relate to parts of your story, I had prison warder parents who did everything they could to inflict psychological damage, it's all subtle stuff though, difficult to prove and to object to - they seemed like 'normal' people to the neighbours. Dad was a mason.
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My father was a Mason! I have a pretty good idea of what you are talking about and have an aversion to people who are too 'normal.'

This is such a great thread. Hope we can keep it going. Hit the up arrow on this entry to see what else I've posted on this thread.

Thanks for sharing!

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I can relate to parts of your story, I had prison warder parents who did everything they could to inflict psychological damage, it's all subtle stuff though, difficult to prove and to object to - they seemed like 'normal' people to the neighbours. Dad was a mason.
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hugs

My guardian was an amazing actor. They could be satan one minute and the most reserved and likable person the next. It wasn't even just their mood, it was as if they could throw on completely different personas, and there were a few.
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yeah, mum had books on multiple personality, like (this is in the 60s) The Three Faces of Eve and a couple of others. She could be satan anytime satan wanted to 'walk in' and operate her like an avatar. Actors, yeah, they're quite accomplished actors.
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I can relate to parts of your story, I had prison warder parents who did everything they could to inflict psychological damage, it's all subtle stuff though, difficult to prove and to object to - they seemed like 'normal' people to the neighbours. Dad was a mason.
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My father was a Mason! I have a pretty good idea of what you are talking about and have an aversion to people who are too 'normal.'

This is such a great thread. Hope we can keep it going. Hit the up arrow on this entry to see what else I've posted on this thread.

Thanks for sharing!

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Did he have a small collection of occult/theosophy books available for you to browse? Mine did. Apart from that, I don't know much about it, cos they don't discuss it, so there's not much to say. Masons don't discuss politics or religion in the home.
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I only remember being told 'that never happened' a few times, so I kinda stopped remembering and/or didn't know what I was supposed to do with memory.

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