The LAST Great Deal in SHTF Firearms

its cool and all, but you are way better off with a shotgun....cheap Mossberg or better Remington. Way more practical/useful especially in a SHTF scenario.

If you can't hit 100+ then you either need more practice or you're still using those POS sights. Get some real US made optics, get on a range. If it's Chinese made, may want a decent barrel too, but keep the trigger group. I'm not knocking ya, granted everyone has their preference when it comes to a firearms, but when it comes down to a survival weapon especially when you might be facing mobs of armed idiots it's good to have a detachable magazine and at least semi-automatic fire capability. Bolt actions allow too much time in-between re-chamber and sighting in the next target, just enough time for a spray n pray to wipe you out. And you're right, urban combat isn't at much of a distance, it's in your face. Take a look at the upgrades that had to be done with US forces weapons to adapt to house to house fighting(essentially what SHTF fighting would be like). Costly.

What I'm basically getting at is if you can only buy 1-2 weapons (for your and your families lives) to depend on, the mentioned equipment (IMO) would be the best choice, if you got bills to spend then a long range backup would be nice no doubt but most preppers don't as there's other important things to buy and stock, this thread seems to be aimed at low budget survivability. Aside from that, you still got to spend money to get some nice optics for the Nagant too, tri-rail will run you $50-$70 and a decent scope or magnifier setup another $90-$400+ depending on expected ranges. Russian Nagant sights and optics do the job but are not as dependable as later rifle equipment and you're going to be tinkering around a lot trying to repair foreign parts in a SHTF situation if your optics are damaged. That's semi-auto rifle prices already without mentioning the replacement costs as a LOT of Nagants are pretty worn out.

It's too bad Mini-14's are so high, they offer a near perfect trade off for putting rounds down range fast and long range accuracy.

dude if you bought 1000 rounds of "7.56" ammo i got bad news for you.

Disagree.

If I was on a limited budget, and wanted one all around weapon, I'd take a .30 cal. bolt gun like the Mosin Nagant over a shotgun any day.

The shotgun is useless beyond 100 yards.

Give me a bone stock 91/30 and a case of surplus ammo, and I can take an Elk at 300 yards or contol everything I can see inside a quarter mile in an urban setting.

Then, I can pull the bullets from some of those surplus FMJ rounds, replace them with a single 00 shot ball, and hunt small game like squirrels and bunnies all day long without filling them full of tiny pellets.

They make great tent pegs!!!!!

When the bad guy with the rifle gives you a sucking chest wound from 400 yds away, you can console yourself by telling yourself how 'versatile' your shotgun was.

OH OK. just like in your video games.

Video games bore me.