very good MarkinAZ,

1 Kings (1Kings 10:22) notes that King Solomon had "a fleet of ships of Tarshish" at sea with the fleet of his ally King Hiram of Tyre. And that "Once every three years the fleet of ships of Tarshish used to come bringing gold, silver, ivory, apes, and peacocks.

1 Kings 22:48 states that "Jehoshaphat made ships of Tarshish to go to Ophir for gold, but they did not go, for the ships were wrecked at Ezion-geber.

Took them three years,

one story is it was the Americas,

for the gold,

greatest secret of the old world was,

the New World, Ophir,

Democracy will fail when the politicians rob the public

coffers to buy the votes of the poor.

Think Plato said that, one of them Greeks,

interesting Greece is first one biting it,

Go ahead and bail out the free world,

the politicians will piss it off very quickly,

and them and others steal it,

doubt the story is true,

whatever.