HERE IT IS! Pentagon Unilaterally Grants Itself Authority Over ‘Civil Disturbances’ Using the military on US soil without the need for POTUS sign | |
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Citizenperth (OP) User ID: 41028448 Australia 06/04/2013 03:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: HERE IT IS! Pentagon Unilaterally Grants Itself Authority Over ‘Civil Disturbances’ Using the military on US soil without the need for POTUS sign Amazing... that's fuggin' super pin..... whet the appetite [Snip] Sec. 182.4 Policy. It is DoD policy that: (a) The Department of Defense shall be prepared to support civilian law enforcement agencies consistent with the needs of military preparedness of the United States, while recognizing and conforming to the legal limitations on direct DoD involvement in civilian law enforcement activities. (b) Support of civilian law enforcement agencies by DoD personnel shall be provided in accordance with 18 U.S.C. 112, 351, 831, 1116, 1751, and 1385 (also known and hereinafter referred to as ``The Posse Comitatus Act, as amended''); 10 U.S.C. chapter 18; 2 U.S.C. 1970 (for support to the U.S. Capitol Police); and other Federal laws, including those protecting the civil rights and civil liberties of individuals, as applicable. (c) The restrictions in Sec. 182.6(a)(1)(iii) shall apply to all actions of DoD personnel worldwide. (d) Exceptions, based on compelling and extraordinary circumstances, may be granted to the restrictions in Sec. 182.6(a)(1)(iii) for assistance to be provided outside the United States; only the Secretary of Defense or Deputy Secretary of Defense may grant such exceptions. (e) Requests for law enforcement support shall be evaluated using the criteria in 32 CFR part 185. [end snip] Last Edited by CitizenPerth™ on 06/04/2013 03:44 AM It's life as we know it, but only just. [link to citizenperth.wordpress.com] sic ut vos es vos should exsisto , denego alius vicis facio vos change , exsisto youself , proprie |
Citizenperth (OP) User ID: 41028448 Australia 06/04/2013 03:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: HERE IT IS! Pentagon Unilaterally Grants Itself Authority Over ‘Civil Disturbances’ Using the military on US soil without the need for POTUS sign i'll stop reading as i go.. it's a big document but here [snip] Executive Summary I. Purpose of the Regulatory Action a. The purpose of this rule is to implement the statutory requirements for the Department of Defense support of civilian law enforcement agencies. This rule provides specific policy direction and assigns responsibilities to Department of Defense key individuals providing support to Federal, State, Tribal, and local law enforcement agencies, including response to civil disturbances within the United States, including the District of Columbia, the Commonwealth of Puerto Rico, the U.S. Virgin Islands, Guam, American Samoa, the Commonwealth of the Northern Mariana Islands, and any territory or possession of the United States or any other political subdivision thereof. [end snip] It's life as we know it, but only just. [link to citizenperth.wordpress.com] sic ut vos es vos should exsisto , denego alius vicis facio vos change , exsisto youself , proprie |
Requiemdream (Ghost) User ID: 29105070 United States 06/04/2013 03:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: HERE IT IS! Pentagon Unilaterally Grants Itself Authority Over ‘Civil Disturbances’ Using the military on US soil without the need for POTUS sign Moving fast....keeping us occupied with 'scandals'. Scary stuff here... Perpetually dumbfounded. “I have learned now that while those who speak about one's miseries usually hurt, those who keep silence hurt more." C.S. Lewis “Sticks and stones may break your bones but words can break hearts.” Tim Minchin |
Requiemdream (Ghost) User ID: 29105070 United States 06/04/2013 03:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: HERE IT IS! Pentagon Unilaterally Grants Itself Authority Over ‘Civil Disturbances’ Using the military on US soil without the need for POTUS sign 5 * for you Perpetually dumbfounded. “I have learned now that while those who speak about one's miseries usually hurt, those who keep silence hurt more." C.S. Lewis “Sticks and stones may break your bones but words can break hearts.” Tim Minchin |
Children of the Atom User ID: 20257839 United States 06/04/2013 04:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: HERE IT IS! Pentagon Unilaterally Grants Itself Authority Over ‘Civil Disturbances’ Using the military on US soil without the need for POTUS sign [snip] Quoting: Citizenperth The manhunt for the Boston Marathon bombing suspects offered the nation a window into the stunning military-style capabilities of our local law enforcement agencies. For the past 30 years, police departments throughout the United States have benefitted from the government’s largesse in the form of military weaponry and training, incentives offered in the ongoing “War on Drugs.” For the average citizen watching events such as the intense pursuit of the Tsarnaev brothers on television, it would be difficult to discern between fully outfitted police SWAT teams and the military. The lines blurred even further Monday as a new dynamic was introduced to the militarization of domestic law enforcement. By making a few subtle changes to a regulation in the U.S. Code titled “Defense Support of Civilian Law Enforcement Agencies” the military has quietly granted itself the ability to police the streets without obtaining prior local or state consent, upending a precedent that has been in place for more than two centuries. The most objectionable aspect of the regulatory change is the inclusion of vague language that permits military intervention in the event of “civil disturbances.” According to the rule: Federal military commanders have the authority, in extraordinary emergency circumstances where prior authorization by the President is impossible and duly constituted local authorities are unable to control the situation, to engage temporarily in activities that are necessary to quell large-scale, unexpected civil disturbances. [end snip] Article [link to www.longislandpress.com] Read the new Rule Here [link to www.gpo.gov] YAaaayyy! Get them terrorists! |
Citizenperth (OP) User ID: 41028448 Australia 06/04/2013 04:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: HERE IT IS! Pentagon Unilaterally Grants Itself Authority Over ‘Civil Disturbances’ Using the military on US soil without the need for POTUS sign Check this: Sec. 182.2 Applicability and scope. This part: (a) Applies to the Office of the Secretary of Defense (OSD), the Military Departments, the Office of the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff and the Joint Staff, the Combatant Commands, the Defense Agencies, the DoD Field Activities, and all other organizational entities within the Department of Defense (hereafter referred to collectively as the ``DoD Components''). (b) Applies to the Office of the Inspector General of the Department of Defense (IG, DoD) only to the extent that this part does not conflict with any of the duties and responsibilities assigned to the IG, DoD pursuant to section 8(g) of Appendix, title 5, U.S.C. (also known as ``The Inspector General Act of 1978, as amended''). (c) Governs all DoD Component planning for and participation in Defense support of civilian law enforcement activities, including domestic emergencies and civil disturbance operations (CDO) (formerly referred to as ``military assistance for civil disturbances''). Last Edited by CitizenPerth™ on 06/04/2013 04:10 AM It's life as we know it, but only just. [link to citizenperth.wordpress.com] sic ut vos es vos should exsisto , denego alius vicis facio vos change , exsisto youself , proprie |
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Citizenperth (OP) User ID: 41028448 Australia 06/04/2013 04:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: HERE IT IS! Pentagon Unilaterally Grants Itself Authority Over ‘Civil Disturbances’ Using the military on US soil without the need for POTUS sign and a nice little kicker: Emergency authority. A Federal military commander's authority, in extraordinary emergency circumstances where prior authorization by the President is impossible and duly constituted local authorities are unable to control the situation, to engage temporarily in activities that are necessary to quell large-scale, unexpected civil disturbances because: (1) Such activities are necessary to prevent significant loss of life or wanton destruction of property and are necessary to restore governmental function and public order; or (2) Duly constituted Federal, State, or local authorities are unable or decline to provide adequate protection for Federal property or Federal governmental functions. Explosives or munitions emergency. A situation involving the suspected or detected presence of unexploded ordnance (UXO), damaged or deteriorated explosives or munitions, an improvised explosive device (IED), other potentially explosive material or device, or other potentially harmful military chemical munitions or device, that creates an actual or potential imminent threat to human health, including safety, or the environment, including property, as determined by an explosives or munitions emergency response specialist. Such situations may require immediate and expeditious action by an explosives or munitions emergency response specialist to control, mitigate, or eliminate the threat. It's life as we know it, but only just. [link to citizenperth.wordpress.com] sic ut vos es vos should exsisto , denego alius vicis facio vos change , exsisto youself , proprie |
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Citizenperth (OP) User ID: 41028448 Australia 06/04/2013 04:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: HERE IT IS! Pentagon Unilaterally Grants Itself Authority Over ‘Civil Disturbances’ Using the military on US soil without the need for POTUS sign Whoa, looks like DHS insider may have really known what he was talking about. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 38817890 yes, these new rules might apply when obammy goes playing golf when the next 'US crisis' occurs? It's life as we know it, but only just. [link to citizenperth.wordpress.com] sic ut vos es vos should exsisto , denego alius vicis facio vos change , exsisto youself , proprie |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 36668391 United States 06/04/2013 04:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: HERE IT IS! Pentagon Unilaterally Grants Itself Authority Over ‘Civil Disturbances’ Using the military on US soil without the need for POTUS sign Aw we've had "executive orders" about that nonsense a while ago. The president can declare an emergency any time he or she wants and take over all our resources. Good times! :D Bring it already, thugs! I'm sick of mud-trampling through all this sickness. I want Persephone's horn and Poseidon's trident! |
Citizenperth (OP) User ID: 41028448 Australia 06/04/2013 05:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: HERE IT IS! Pentagon Unilaterally Grants Itself Authority Over ‘Civil Disturbances’ Using the military on US soil without the need for POTUS sign Aw we've had "executive orders" about that nonsense a while ago. The president can declare an emergency any time he or she wants and take over all our resources. Good times! :D Quoting: calx Bring it already, thugs! I'm sick of mud-trampling through all this sickness. I want Persephone's horn and Poseidon's trident! ahhh, yes my friend.... but this specifies that the troops can act alongside the civil defense WITHOUT executive order, at an 'on soil' US civil disturbance using whatever means necessary.... 'tis all in the fine print....... It's life as we know it, but only just. [link to citizenperth.wordpress.com] sic ut vos es vos should exsisto , denego alius vicis facio vos change , exsisto youself , proprie |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 36668391 United States 06/04/2013 05:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: HERE IT IS! Pentagon Unilaterally Grants Itself Authority Over ‘Civil Disturbances’ Using the military on US soil without the need for POTUS sign Aw we've had "executive orders" about that nonsense a while ago. The president can declare an emergency any time he or she wants and take over all our resources. Good times! :D Quoting: calx Bring it already, thugs! I'm sick of mud-trampling through all this sickness. I want Persephone's horn and Poseidon's trident! ahhh, yes my friend.... but this specifies that the troops can act alongside the civil defense WITHOUT executive order, at an 'on soil' US civil disturbance using whatever means necessary.... 'tis all in the fine print....... The large print giveth and the small print taketh away. :D |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 12653550 Philippines 06/04/2013 05:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: HERE IT IS! Pentagon Unilaterally Grants Itself Authority Over ‘Civil Disturbances’ Using the military on US soil without the need for POTUS sign Dude, you are worrying over the wrong thing. Instead of worrying about this "reaction" you should be concerned about the event that they will cause to make it necessary. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 12653550 Philippines 06/04/2013 05:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: HERE IT IS! Pentagon Unilaterally Grants Itself Authority Over ‘Civil Disturbances’ Using the military on US soil without the need for POTUS sign Aw we've had "executive orders" about that nonsense a while ago. The president can declare an emergency any time he or she wants and take over all our resources. Good times! :D Quoting: calx Bring it already, thugs! I'm sick of mud-trampling through all this sickness. I want Persephone's horn and Poseidon's trident! ahhh, yes my friend.... but this specifies that the troops can act alongside the civil defense WITHOUT executive order, at an 'on soil' US civil disturbance using whatever means necessary.... 'tis all in the fine print....... kinda sounds like they expect someone to depart without the usual bye bye |
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Citizenperth (OP) User ID: 41028448 Australia 06/04/2013 07:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: HERE IT IS! Pentagon Unilaterally Grants Itself Authority Over ‘Civil Disturbances’ Using the military on US soil without the need for POTUS sign Aw we've had "executive orders" about that nonsense a while ago. The president can declare an emergency any time he or she wants and take over all our resources. Good times! :D Quoting: calx Bring it already, thugs! I'm sick of mud-trampling through all this sickness. I want Persephone's horn and Poseidon's trident! ahhh, yes my friend.... but this specifies that the troops can act alongside the civil defense WITHOUT executive order, at an 'on soil' US civil disturbance using whatever means necessary.... 'tis all in the fine print....... kinda sounds like they expect someone to depart without the usual bye bye It's life as we know it, but only just. [link to citizenperth.wordpress.com] sic ut vos es vos should exsisto , denego alius vicis facio vos change , exsisto youself , proprie |
Al Jourgens Son User ID: 40701809 Canada 06/04/2013 07:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: HERE IT IS! Pentagon Unilaterally Grants Itself Authority Over ‘Civil Disturbances’ Using the military on US soil without the need for POTUS sign Dude, you are worrying over the wrong thing. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12653550 Instead of worrying about this "reaction" you should be concerned about the event that they will cause to make it necessary. or what about an event that presents itself naturally, that we have not yet been told about ? like Katrina, where police left their post to take care of their families. Something like that, but continent wide, seems to me to be the reason why so many new border sharing laws with Canada have been passed ( Drones, etc ). |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 41109500 United States 06/04/2013 08:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: HERE IT IS! Pentagon Unilaterally Grants Itself Authority Over ‘Civil Disturbances’ Using the military on US soil without the need for POTUS sign any guesses on how long it will take them to piggy back that into Domestic violence? invade your house because some shill 500 yards away 'thought' they heard something..., then kill your dog and mind-rape your neighbors children... forget your cell phone as video... They're 'guns' now... remember. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 38275660 Denmark 06/04/2013 08:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: HERE IT IS! Pentagon Unilaterally Grants Itself Authority Over ‘Civil Disturbances’ Using the military on US soil without the need for POTUS sign They can't quell some ragtag groups in the Afghan mountains. How are they going to suppress an unruly domestic population? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10401141 Ahh the famous Occupy Poppy field campaign. Yeah they bomb the shit out of you if you started to resist, even blow your mountains off the map if that's what it takes. They ruthless, look at the society they created for you to live in. Six million ways to die, choice one. |
MacElroy User ID: 1246662 United States 06/04/2013 08:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: HERE IT IS! Pentagon Unilaterally Grants Itself Authority Over ‘Civil Disturbances’ Using the military on US soil without the need for POTUS sign Interesting language. Duly constituted Federal, State, or local authorities are unable or decline to provide adequate protection for Federal property or Federal governmental functions. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 23956419 United Kingdom 06/04/2013 08:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: HERE IT IS! Pentagon Unilaterally Grants Itself Authority Over ‘Civil Disturbances’ Using the military on US soil without the need for POTUS sign please do not insult your forefathers by comparing them, a brave and fearless people, with the pansy asses that are around today. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23956419 ^ There's a lot of validity to that insult ^ of course there is validity to that statement because it happens to be correct. you can pussify the man. it remains to be seen, however, if depussification is also possible. |