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A Oncologist told me today that in Obamacare, you can not have chemo if your over 70

 
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What a bunch of bull. Chemo will be covered. You have an idiot for a doctor.
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You don't know what you are talking about. Death panels are fucking real! Just admit you fucked up.
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Sarah Palin coined the Death Panel term.....she warned you all.....and she was ridiculed and beaten down for it.

Amusing how many are still in denial.


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If I had cancer, the last thing I'd probably try would be chemo.
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At 70 your warranty is about up anyway. I don't know why people are so fearful of death. Its very childish. Just cash in your chips and go.
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Re: A Oncologist told me today that in Obamacare, you can not have chemo if your over 70
If I had cancer, the last thing I'd probably try would be chemo.
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That's what Steve Jobs said lol

If you have a strong immune system Chemo is the way to go. To use the simplest terms, part your immune system attaches 'tags' to things that need to be destroyed, then anything with the tag is targeted for destruction. Aside from the intended mechanism, the 'tags' can randomly get snagged on cells that should not be destroyed, and as a result that cell gets destroyed.

Only this system can't differentiate between cancer cells and regular cells. Chemotherapy essentially floods your body with these tags, relying on the 'random snags' to gradually tag the cancer cells for your immune system to destroy them. Unfortunately this creates a lot of friendly fire, and healthy cells are targeted indiscriminately, causing systemic degradation.


There is a newly discovered treatment that helps the immune system find the cancer cells, but that's probably a decade away from being a refined treatment.

Until then, if you get cancer, and are generally healthy, Chemo is the most effective and least poisonous way to destroy it.
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Re: A Oncologist told me today that in Obamacare, you can not have chemo if your over 70
What a bunch of bull. Chemo will be covered. You have an idiot for a doctor.
 Quoting: kpduties 24054525


You don't know what you are talking about. Death panels are fucking real! Just admit you fucked up.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36206518


Sarah Palin coined the Death Panel term.....she warned you all.....and she was ridiculed and beaten down for it.

Amusing how many are still in denial.


:nhc:
 Quoting: Useless Cookie Eater


People believe what ever the talking heads on TV tell them to believe. When SNL makes fun of Sarah then she must be stupid.
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Re: A Oncologist told me today that in Obamacare, you can not have chemo if your over 70
If true, everyone needs to grab their guns and storm the White House.

THIS is not freedom! This is socialism. aka-The Reds, commies, socialists.....
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Well I don't agree with your idea, it is real.

[link to fellowshipofminds.wordpress.com]
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What, are you going to politely ask them to stop this madness?!?!?

Are you gonna vote it out? LMFAO



The US IS heading into socialism. Pretty soon you can be arrested for speaking out against the leader and voting will be something taught in history books.


Personally, storming a white house isn't realistic. BUT taking some form of action is required, OR just sit back and let the commies roll in.
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Re: A Oncologist told me today that in Obamacare, you can not have chemo if your over 70
If I had cancer, the last thing I'd probably try would be chemo.
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


That's what Steve Jobs said lol

If you have a strong immune system Chemo is the way to go. To use the simplest terms, part your immune system attaches 'tags' to things that need to be destroyed, then anything with the tag is targeted for destruction. Aside from the intended mechanism, the 'tags' can randomly get snagged on cells that should not be destroyed, and as a result that cell gets destroyed.

Only this system can't differentiate between cancer cells and regular cells. Chemotherapy essentially floods your body with these tags, relying on the 'random snags' to gradually tag the cancer cells for your immune system to destroy them. Unfortunately this creates a lot of friendly fire, and healthy cells are targeted indiscriminately, causing systemic degradation.


There is a newly discovered treatment that helps the immune system find the cancer cells, but that's probably a decade away from being a refined treatment.

Until then, if you get cancer, and are generally healthy, Chemo is the most effective and least poisonous way to destroy it.
 Quoting: Lionelfrankenstein 36247816


I personally know 3 people that survived cancer through diet, nutrition and detox.

Chemo just about kills you.
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Re: A Oncologist told me today that in Obamacare, you can not have chemo if your over 70
If I had cancer, the last thing I'd probably try would be chemo.
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


That's what Steve Jobs said lol

If you have a strong immune system Chemo is the way to go. To use the simplest terms, part your immune system attaches 'tags' to things that need to be destroyed, then anything with the tag is targeted for destruction. Aside from the intended mechanism, the 'tags' can randomly get snagged on cells that should not be destroyed, and as a result that cell gets destroyed.

Only this system can't differentiate between cancer cells and regular cells. Chemotherapy essentially floods your body with these tags, relying on the 'random snags' to gradually tag the cancer cells for your immune system to destroy them. Unfortunately this creates a lot of friendly fire, and healthy cells are targeted indiscriminately, causing systemic degradation.


There is a newly discovered treatment that helps the immune system find the cancer cells, but that's probably a decade away from being a refined treatment.

Until then, if you get cancer, and are generally healthy, Chemo is the most effective and least poisonous way to destroy it.
 Quoting: Lionelfrankenstein 36247816


Least poisonous? HAA!! (try again)

Oh, and chemo is also carcinergenic.
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Re: A Oncologist told me today that in Obamacare, you can not have chemo if your over 70
My husband is going through stage 3 colon cancer. We were at his Oncologist today and the Oncologist said that Obamacare has to go, because in the law if you are over 70 years of age, you can not have chemo treatments. I know several people who are over the age of 70 and they are living a full and wonderful life. Most people in my family live to almost 100. I don't get that...Unless it is true that they want to cut the population.
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Doctors are becoming more dangerous then guns.
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Re: A Oncologist told me today that in Obamacare, you can not have chemo if your over 70
If I had cancer, the last thing I'd probably try would be chemo.
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


That's what Steve Jobs said lol

If you have a strong immune system Chemo is the way to go. To use the simplest terms, part your immune system attaches 'tags' to things that need to be destroyed, then anything with the tag is targeted for destruction. Aside from the intended mechanism, the 'tags' can randomly get snagged on cells that should not be destroyed, and as a result that cell gets destroyed.

Only this system can't differentiate between cancer cells and regular cells. Chemotherapy essentially floods your body with these tags, relying on the 'random snags' to gradually tag the cancer cells for your immune system to destroy them. Unfortunately this creates a lot of friendly fire, and healthy cells are targeted indiscriminately, causing systemic degradation.


There is a newly discovered treatment that helps the immune system find the cancer cells, but that's probably a decade away from being a refined treatment.

Until then, if you get cancer, and are generally healthy, Chemo is the most effective and least poisonous way to destroy it.
 Quoting: Lionelfrankenstein 36247816


Least poisonous? HAA!! (try again)

Oh, and chemo is also carcinergenic.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9014106


Just because it makes you feel the most ill doesn't mean it's the most *poisonous*. It stimulates your immune system to attack your body. That feels like crap, but once the attack is over, your body is left no more dirty than before you started the treatments.
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Its not right to make them suffer, no matter how old they are. People are people and they should have the best medical care no matter what age.
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I have no idea if that's true, but I know you can get medicare supplemental insurance to pay for stuff like that. I buy it for my Dad.
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Re: A Oncologist told me today that in Obamacare, you can not have chemo if your over 70
I believe it. My Sister is a nurse, and she just told me that they are already eliminating a lot of common medical tests for the elderly as medicare will no longer pay for it. She was really upset because she works in a nursing home and she said this is going to make trying to care for the patients very difficult.
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Its not just the elderly.Younger people that have lifelong health problems are being cut back in the amount of tests,doctor visits,etc that are covered.I was going every 3 months ,that has been cut back to every six months and I call in if I have unexpected problems.My doctor wanted me on a couple of name brand meds and it was paying for it but now it will only pay for the generics.The testing has been cut back too.
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My prediction is that people will live a lot longer under Obamacare because they won't have doctors killing them off with poisons and malpractice.
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Re: A Oncologist told me today that in Obamacare, you can not have chemo if your over 70
My husband is going through stage 3 colon cancer. We were at his Oncologist today and the Oncologist said that Obamacare has to go, because in the law if you are over 70 years of age, you can not have chemo treatments. I know several people who are over the age of 70 and they are living a full and wonderful life. Most people in my family live to almost 100. I don't get that...Unless it is true that they want to cut the population.
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Who in there right minds would want Chemo at that age, unless they had very important business to finish up or family members depending on them.pope
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BTW chemo is proven to breed hardier cancer cells because it kills off your normal immune system, allowing only the hardiest thing left (cancer) to eventually come back thriving.
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I wouldnt have chemo at any age.
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What you would or would not do is not the point.
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Re: A Oncologist told me today that in Obamacare, you can not have chemo if your over 70
My husband is going through stage 3 colon cancer. We were at his Oncologist today and the Oncologist said that Obamacare has to go, because in the law if you are over 70 years of age, you can not have chemo treatments. I know several people who are over the age of 70 and they are living a full and wonderful life. Most people in my family live to almost 100. I don't get that...Unless it is true that they want to cut the population.
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Who in there right minds would want Chemo at that age, unless they had very important business to finish up or family members depending on them.pope
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My father had chemo at 70. He lived a very happy and productive next 14 years. One of the many joys in his life is he got to attend the weddings of two grandchildren.
Now run along . Don't you have some homework do before mom calls you for dinner?
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After 30 rounds of radiation and 4 rounds of chemo, all the biopsies have come back non malignant. Thank God!!!...Now for the surgery. They can not say he is cancer free yet though.
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After 30 rounds of radiation and 4 rounds of chemo, all the biopsies have come back non malignant. Thank God!!!...Now for the surgery. They can not say he is cancer free yet though.
 Quoting: Deb1964


Had stage 3 colon cancer not quite 5 years ago. They debated doing the surgery after the other therapies, but decided that they weren't sure about a growth showing up on my ovary. Good thing they didn't wait around, since the thing on the ovary was a non cancerous tumor that was dying from being twisted on it's blood supply. That wouldn't have been good at all! Gangrene isn't healthy!

Had the surgery (have a non reversable colostomy based on where the tumor was), did 37 radiations and 8 of the planned 10 chemos. Did OK with both, although near the end of radiation I needed to be near a bathroom to pee almost all the time. They stopped the chemo when my blood counts dropped too low. But I was still working through it (part-time).bump

Wound up with some peripheral neuropathy from the chemo, but I'm alive, enjoying life and still working part-time. Of course my husband did most of the cooking, and I got fed a lot of comfort foods (we both needed them).

Good luck to you and your hubby. It wasn't what I wanted to happen, but it's survivable. Keep a positive attitude!
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I wouldnt have chemo at any age.
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this

how many doctors take chemo, or die from cancer?
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We'll all see the truth about Obama-Care when it kicks in 2014...Generation X is the first generation that has a shorter life-expectancy that the generation prior and so on.
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Re: A Oncologist told me today that in Obamacare, you can not have chemo if your over 70
If I had cancer, the last thing I'd probably try would be chemo.
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


That's what Steve Jobs said lol

If you have a strong immune system Chemo is the way to go. To use the simplest terms, part your immune system attaches 'tags' to things that need to be destroyed, then anything with the tag is targeted for destruction. Aside from the intended mechanism, the 'tags' can randomly get snagged on cells that should not be destroyed, and as a result that cell gets destroyed.

Only this system can't differentiate between cancer cells and regular cells. Chemotherapy essentially floods your body with these tags, relying on the 'random snags' to gradually tag the cancer cells for your immune system to destroy them. Unfortunately this creates a lot of friendly fire, and healthy cells are targeted indiscriminately, causing systemic degradation.


There is a newly discovered treatment that helps the immune system find the cancer cells, but that's probably a decade away from being a refined treatment.

Until then, if you get cancer, and are generally healthy, Chemo is the most effective and least poisonous way to destroy it.
 Quoting: Lionelfrankenstein 36247816


Least poisonous? HAA!! (try again)

Oh, and chemo is also carcinergenic.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9014106


Just because it makes you feel the most ill doesn't mean it's the most *poisonous*. It stimulates your immune system to attack your body. That feels like crap, but once the attack is over, your body is left no more dirty than before you started the treatments.
 Quoting: Lionelfrankenstein 36247816


I'm not usually rude on to people...not even on GLP and I won't this time either. But you really need to do some research cause you are SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Dead wrong! Chemo is deadly! And is extremely poisonous to your entire body. It WILL kill you!
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Re: A Oncologist told me today that in Obamacare, you can not have chemo if your over 70
If I had cancer, the last thing I'd probably try would be chemo.
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


That's what Steve Jobs said lol

If you have a strong immune system Chemo is the way to go. To use the simplest terms, part your immune system attaches 'tags' to things that need to be destroyed, then anything with the tag is targeted for destruction. Aside from the intended mechanism, the 'tags' can randomly get snagged on cells that should not be destroyed, and as a result that cell gets destroyed.

Only this system can't differentiate between cancer cells and regular cells. Chemotherapy essentially floods your body with these tags, relying on the 'random snags' to gradually tag the cancer cells for your immune system to destroy them. Unfortunately this creates a lot of friendly fire, and healthy cells are targeted indiscriminately, causing systemic degradation.


There is a newly discovered treatment that helps the immune system find the cancer cells, but that's probably a decade away from being a refined treatment.

Until then, if you get cancer, and are generally healthy, Chemo is the most effective and least poisonous way to destroy it.
 Quoting: Lionelfrankenstein 36247816


this noob is pro death. ignore the fool.





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