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Man Tasered while attempting to save infant son from a house fire!

 
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We need to do away with Tazers. They have given Cops God complexes and allowed them to stop using their brains at the same time. They are completely over-used. Go back to firearms - you gotta decide if you are gonna shoot or not - period. Then they will have to start thinking again.
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I think you have a big mouth, coplover.
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That comment isn't coplover material. He is saying that no matter what the cop did, they would be blamed. I'm sure there were firefighters there that were trying to save who they can, him running in there could have killed not only himself, but the fireman trying to rescue him.
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Blamed? A Man taking his own decision to try and save someone else's life is fack all to do with Police, in a free society.

......."Oer the land of the free, and the home of the [people who would rather see babies burn to death rather than trying to rescue them]".........
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You're right. The thing is (I'm a civilian, military trained volunteer for underwater search and rescue) that all emergency response people are taught to never turn a one victim rescue situation into a two victim situation.

Brief's right. The cops are damned if they do and damned if they don't. But it would have been real hard to stop me or probably anyone else here from trying to save my kid. Or anyone else's for that matter.
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bullshit if the gutless swine had any BALLS hed told the guy to stay put and go in there HIMSELF to get the kid. if the dad came along, so be it but SAVE THE KID. NOT A HERO.
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They would be blamed either way...had they let dad rush in and get killed along with the child, or prevent him from going in, thereby saving his life, and they are still at fault...
 Quoting: BRIEF


It's not their choice! Shake off the mentality that the law is there to protect you from yourself. It was not their choice. Period.
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Suicide is illegal.
 Quoting: BRIEF


Only under Sharia Law, which speaks volumes about your real beliefs
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41177637


Uh...suicide is actually a prosecutable offense. You CAN be arrested for attempting it.
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It's not their choice! Shake off the mentality that the law is there to protect you from yourself. It was not their choice. Period.
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Suicide is illegal.
 Quoting: BRIEF


Only under Sharia Law, which speaks volumes about your real beliefs
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41177637


Uh...suicide is actually a prosecutable offense. You CAN be arrested for attempting it.
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bsflag

Prove that statement and cite the law then fucktard!
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I would probably figure out who tasered me and spend the rest of my time doing nothing but trying to make his life a living hell.
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all 30 seconds of it
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If I was that guy I'd probably burn the cops house down and watch his loved one burn alive then tase him and say it was for your own good.. Cops need to start being held accountable for their actions even if the coos say its "justified". When will people say enough!?!?!?!?

I'd run in the house too. I would known where the baby was and the layout of my own house better than anyone.

This is a really sad thing.
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These worthless piggies should be sleeping on the street for their crimes against humanity, not living off of my taxes like a bunch of parasites.
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The Officer will get a award for saving a life!
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It's not their choice! Shake off the mentality that the law is there to protect you from yourself. It was not their choice. Period.
 Quoting: Adventus Domini


Suicide is illegal.
 Quoting: BRIEF


Only under Sharia Law, which speaks volumes about your real beliefs
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41177637


Uh...suicide is actually a prosecutable offense. You CAN be arrested for attempting it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18432713


Not as I understand it, please cite.
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That comment isn't coplover material. He is saying that no matter what the cop did, they would be blamed. I'm sure there were firefighters there that were trying to save who they can, him running in there could have killed not only himself, but the fireman trying to rescue him.
 Quoting: Tard


Blamed? A Man taking his own decision to try and save someone else's life is fack all to do with Police, in a free society.

......."Oer the land of the free, and the home of the [people who would rather see babies burn to death rather than trying to rescue them]".........
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41177637


You're right. The thing is (I'm a civilian, military trained volunteer for underwater search and rescue) that all emergency response people are taught to never turn a one victim rescue situation into a two victim situation.

Brief's right. The cops are damned if they do and damned if they don't. But it would have been real hard to stop me or probably anyone else here from trying to save my kid. Or anyone else's for that matter.
 Quoting: Captain Spaulding 41060868


bullshit if the gutless swine had any BALLS hed told the guy to stay put and go in there HIMSELF to get the kid. if the dad came along, so be it but SAVE THE KID. NOT A HERO.
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I WOULD HAVE "GONE IN" anyway. The dilemma is if another person goes in, more rescuers have to risk THEIR lives trying to save MORE people. Thereby putting even more lives at risk.

He shouldn't have been tazed. And morally, the cop should have been a "hero". That's his damn job. But if someone would have been hurt or killed trying to save both the baby and cop, protocol would have been breached. It sucks. It just plain sucks.
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They would be blamed either way...had they let dad rush in and get killed along with the child, or prevent him from going in, thereby saving his life, and they are still at fault...
 Quoting: BRIEF


It's not their choice! Shake off the mentality that the law is there to protect you from yourself. It was not their choice. Period.
 Quoting: Adventus Domini


Suicide is illegal.
 Quoting: BRIEF


(though, imo, suicide is a bad choice.)

Illegal to whom, the "state"? At this time in OUR country, I say screw 'em. They want OUR money or they want us dead.
The enemy , apparently, is not bound by the OUR Constitution.
Free country? Look, again. Things have changed radically.
And, it appears it's not over.
(ok, rant over for today. Sorry.)
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well I see it this way, the taser was guaranteed to harm the man, and running into the house after his son might have hurt him. If you tase the man, the baby dies, if you don't tase him, the baby probably lives.

I don't want the cop to be fired for this, I want him to be tased while attempting to save his son.

Its fuckin ridiculous for anyone especially big government, to tell you whats best for you. I'd rather die trying to save my son than live knowing he doesn't have to be dead.
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:AGRREEE:
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As shocking as this story is, it's a perfect datum as to show the real core belief of whether people are free to think or open & primed for state imposed servitude.

I cannot fkin believe that anyone in the US would defend the idea that a Government Officer should hold the power to decide whether a man is allowed to save his own child from burning to death.

True shame on any person who justifies this level of servitude.
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Terrible. I too would rather die trying to save my children than having to live with the fact that there may have been something I could have done to save them.

That's a lot of guilt that man is going to have to deal with.
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And he will keep it locked up inside of him. Life's roads have taken him somewhere unimaginable and there is no way back.
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well I see it this way, the taser was guaranteed to harm the man, and running into the house after his son might have hurt him. If you tase the man, the baby dies, if you don't tase him, the baby probably lives.

I don't want the cop to be fired for this, I want him to be tased while attempting to save his son.

Its fuckin ridiculous for anyone especially big government, to tell you whats best for you. I'd rather die trying to save my son than live knowing he doesn't have to be dead.
 Quoting: Brother Love


clappa
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They would be blamed either way...had they let dad rush in and get killed along with the child, or prevent him from going in, thereby saving his life, and they are still at fault...
 Quoting: BRIEF


Whatever happened to free will and freedom?

Oh right, they are flushed down the toilet along with your worthless country.
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I would have to pay that officer a visit and a taste of his own medicine.
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Suicide is illegal.
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Only under Sharia Law, which speaks volumes about your real beliefs
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41177637


Uh...suicide is actually a prosecutable offense. You CAN be arrested for attempting it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18432713


bsflag

Prove that statement and cite the law then fucktard!
 Quoting: Dr. Ben Schillen

Depends on where you live, but suicide is a felony in many U.S. states...
[link to en.m.wikipedia.org]
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well I see it this way, the taser was guaranteed to harm the man, and running into the house after his son might have hurt him. If you tase the man, the baby dies, if you don't tase him, the baby probably lives.

I don't want the cop to be fired for this, I want him to be tased while attempting to save his son.

Its fuckin ridiculous for anyone especially big government, to tell you whats best for you. I'd rather die trying to save my son than live knowing he doesn't have to be dead.
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Agreed. I would have gone in myself if he were my child. Hell, even my step kids. It's human mature to protect the young. Ecspecially if they're yours. I agree with everything this person just said. Though it wouldn't be right to punish the officers child. Though he shouldn't blamed cuz his dad or whom ever is a complete jackass sob.
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well I see it this way, the taser was guaranteed to harm the man, and running into the house after his son might have hurt him. If you tase the man, the baby dies, if you don't tase him, the baby probably lives.

I don't want the cop to be fired for this, I want him to be tased while attempting to save his son.

Its fuckin ridiculous for anyone especially big government, to tell you whats best for you. I'd rather die trying to save my son than live knowing he doesn't have to be dead.
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:AGRREEE:
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Same here.
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fucked up story... wow.

Can you imagine how that guy is feeling now? Poor fellow.
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In shock?
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5a
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Uh...suicide is actually a prosecutable offense. You CAN be arrested for attempting it.
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bsflag

Prove that statement and cite the law then fucktard!
 Quoting: Dr. Ben Schillen

Depends on where you live, but suicide is a felony in many U.S. states...
[link to en.m.wikipedia.org]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41175979


bsflag

You must not have read what you linked to.

SNIP

By the early 1990s only two states still listed suicide as a crime, and these have since removed that classification. [link to en.m.wikipedia.org]

Now, two states does not mean many, as you have asserted; moreover, you did not cite the law.

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Only under Sharia Law, which speaks volumes about your real beliefs
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41177637


Uh...suicide is actually a prosecutable offense. You CAN be arrested for attempting it.


bsflag

Prove that statement and cite the law then fucktard!

Depends on where you live, but suicide is a felony in many U.S. states...
[link to en.m.wikipedia.org]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18432713
]

from the link; ..."By the early 1990s only two states still
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suicide as a crime, and these have since removed that classification."
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well I see it this way, the taser was guaranteed to harm the man, and running into the house after his son might have hurt him. If you tase the man, the baby dies, if you don't tase him, the baby probably lives.

I don't want the cop to be fired for this, I want him to be tased while attempting to save his son.

Its fuckin ridiculous for anyone especially big government, to tell you whats best for you. I'd rather die trying to save my son than live knowing he doesn't have to be dead.
 Quoting: Brother Love


clappa
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They would be blamed either way...had they let dad rush in and get killed along with the child, or prevent him from going in, thereby saving his life, and they are still at fault...
 Quoting: BRIEF


There may be a lot more to this than is known... Local reports indicate that something nefarious may have happened -- arson and criminal investigations have been opened.
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So that means kill a baby? Riiiiiiigh
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They would be blamed either way...had they let dad rush in and get killed along with the child, or prevent him from going in, thereby saving his life, and they are still at fault...
 Quoting: BRIEF


Whatever happened to free will and freedom?

Oh right, they are flushed down the toilet along with your worthless country.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27466742


My opinion is, the cop made a decision.. stopping someone running into the house that was up in flames... No pointing fingers at who is the blame. You don't know how badly the house was on fire. If it was plausible, the cop would have gone in himself. Believe it, when I say, there are good cops and they care. TV has made the police look like the bad guy to get a good story. Plus, our society is into SUING anybody!What good would a lawsuit do?
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Blamed? A Man taking his own decision to try and save someone else's life is fack all to do with Police, in a free society.

......."Oer the land of the free, and the home of the [people who would rather see babies burn to death rather than trying to rescue them]".........
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41177637


You're right. The thing is (I'm a civilian, military trained volunteer for underwater search and rescue) that all emergency response people are taught to never turn a one victim rescue situation into a two victim situation.

Brief's right. The cops are damned if they do and damned if they don't. But it would have been real hard to stop me or probably anyone else here from trying to save my kid. Or anyone else's for that matter.
 Quoting: Captain Spaulding 41060868


bullshit if the gutless swine had any BALLS hed told the guy to stay put and go in there HIMSELF to get the kid. if the dad came along, so be it but SAVE THE KID. NOT A HERO.
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I WOULD HAVE "GONE IN" anyway. The dilemma is if another person goes in, more rescuers have to risk THEIR lives trying to save MORE people. Thereby putting even more lives at risk.

He shouldn't have been tazed. And morally, the cop should have been a "hero". That's his damn job. But if someone would have been hurt or killed trying to save both the baby and cop, protocol would have been breached. It sucks. It just plain sucks.
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tough shit on the firefighters if he went in, its their damn job so their lives are at risk anyway. I agree with you man it does suck.
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I would probably figure out who tasered me and spend the rest of my time doing nothing but trying to make his life a living hell.
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^THIS!!!!
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They would be blamed either way...had they let dad rush in and get killed along with the child, or prevent him from going in, thereby saving his life, and they are still at fault...
 Quoting: BRIEF


There may be a lot more to this than is known... Local reports indicate that something nefarious may have happened -- arson and criminal investigations have been opened.
 Quoting: Carnac The MagnificeRiiiiiiight0MDE0XzM4MjkzMzk5XzVDNTQ0QjhC


So that means kill a baby? Riiiiiiigh
 Quoting: TheTruthNeverLies


Yeah! thats what im saying, who CARES about the circumstances, just save the baby. Fucking police FUCKED UP so they have to say some BS to cover their asses, talking about "things don't add up', fUCK LEO's!

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They would be blamed either way...had they let dad rush in and get killed along with the child, or prevent him from going in, thereby saving his life, and they are still at fault...
 Quoting: BRIEF


Brief i dont get u buddy. Everything u say on her makes me believe that u r 100% for our freedoms but u always come to the defense of the police state. Now dont get me wrong... A lot of times i agree with u. I mean any title that says "innocent protestor gets arrested for breathing" usually translates to some idiot wanting to push all buttons to get arrested on video so they cry about it. But there are cops that overstep the authority we give them. Even if u are or were a cop, u have to know that is true.

I am not directly refering to this story. There is a lot unknown. I just know that if there is a house fire that my kids dont survive in, they would be reporting my death too because i would die before i ever left my kids in a burning house. They took that from him. Right or wrong there is a morality issue here.
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