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Michael Bolton (OP) User ID: 1265695 United States 06/05/2013 12:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Democrats have gone way left, while a lot of republicans have gone way right. Quoting: Brother Love the current mentality is everyone has their opinion and think that they are correct, no matter what and they are going to get what they want. there is no more compromising like in the day of Kennedy and Reagan. Everyone has to fight fight fight instead of working and compromising. Bob Dole was right the other day. Yeah these modern politicians stand for their beliefs, but these beliefs are those of their party, not individuals. They are to be commended for their teamwork, but as a tax payer, I'm not paying them to argue, I'm paying them to legislate. Modern politicians don't do they're job, they campaign 24-7, they give ideological speeches, but they don't get any actual work done. I must respectfully disagree. Compromise isn't always a good thing...letting sh*tty ideas through because you want to compromise is wrong IMO. When you say Republicans have gone further right I disagree as well..over the past 15-20 yrs the republicans have shifted to the left also....guys like McCain...Graham..the RINOS. The guys like Cruz and Paul are trying to bring the party back....trying to reign em in. Regardless of party they all seem to be shifting towards the left.....so those who see this are trying to pull the ship back to the right. |
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Resister User ID: 36421936 United States 06/05/2013 12:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Democrats have gone way left, while a lot of republicans have gone way right. Quoting: Brother Love the current mentality is everyone has their opinion and think that they are correct, no matter what and they are going to get what they want. there is no more compromising like in the day of Kennedy and Reagan. Everyone has to fight fight fight instead of working and compromising. Bob Dole was right the other day. Yeah these modern politicians stand for their beliefs, but these beliefs are those of their party, not individuals. They are to be commended for their teamwork, but as a tax payer, I'm not paying them to argue, I'm paying them to legislate. Modern politicians don't do they're job, they campaign 24-7, they give ideological speeches, but they don't get any actual work done. I must respectfully disagree. Compromise isn't always a good thing...letting sh*tty ideas through because you want to compromise is wrong IMO. When you say Republicans have gone further right I disagree as well..over the past 15-20 yrs the republicans have shifted to the left also....guys like McCain...Graham..the RINOS. The guys like Cruz and Paul are trying to bring the party back....trying to reign em in. Regardless of party they all seem to be shifting towards the left.....so those who see this are trying to pull the ship back to the right. Perfect response. All of Washington has gone way to far left and Democrats have succumbed to very nearly all of the communist platform. Republicans have not “gone way right” at all. The Party leadership has practically abandoned constitutional conservatism and compromised so much of what use to be principles away that they are decidedly left of traditional secular and moral law. Just think about the word “conserve” for a minute. It is to keep, to preserve, to retain. All the conservative rock stars like Ted Cruz, Rand Paul, and Mike Lee in the Republican party are doing is reasserting what the leadership has abandoned. Someone who argues in favor of adhering to the bill of rights is not “far right”. Someone who argues for limiting the size of a government that is 17 trillion dollars in debt and counting are not “far right”. It only looks that way when viewed through the statist prism of the Democrat party and the propaganda media. "God forbid we should ever be 20 years without such a rebellion. The people cannot be all, & always, well informed... If they remain quiet under such misconceptions it is a lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty... Let them take arms... What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants. " - Thomas Jefferson in 1787 |
Michael Bolton (OP) User ID: 1265695 United States 06/05/2013 12:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Democrats have gone way left, while a lot of republicans have gone way right. Quoting: Brother Love the current mentality is everyone has their opinion and think that they are correct, no matter what and they are going to get what they want. there is no more compromising like in the day of Kennedy and Reagan. Everyone has to fight fight fight instead of working and compromising. Bob Dole was right the other day. Yeah these modern politicians stand for their beliefs, but these beliefs are those of their party, not individuals. They are to be commended for their teamwork, but as a tax payer, I'm not paying them to argue, I'm paying them to legislate. Modern politicians don't do they're job, they campaign 24-7, they give ideological speeches, but they don't get any actual work done. I must respectfully disagree. Compromise isn't always a good thing...letting sh*tty ideas through because you want to compromise is wrong IMO. When you say Republicans have gone further right I disagree as well..over the past 15-20 yrs the republicans have shifted to the left also....guys like McCain...Graham..the RINOS. The guys like Cruz and Paul are trying to bring the party back....trying to reign em in. Regardless of party they all seem to be shifting towards the left.....so those who see this are trying to pull the ship back to the right. Perfect response. All of Washington has gone way to far left and Democrats have succumbed to very nearly all of the communist platform. Republicans have not “gone way right” at all. The Party leadership has practically abandoned constitutional conservatism and compromised so much of what use to be principles away that they are decidedly left of traditional secular and moral law. Just think about the word “conserve” for a minute. It is to keep, to preserve, to retain. All the conservative rock stars like Ted Cruz, Rand Paul, and Mike Lee in the Republican party are doing is reasserting what the leadership has abandoned. Someone who argues in favor of adhering to the bill of rights is not “far right”. Someone who argues for limiting the size of a government that is 17 trillion dollars in debt and counting are not “far right”. It only looks that way when viewed through the statist prism of the Democrat party and the propaganda media. Very well said! |
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Michael Bolton (OP) User ID: 1265695 United States 06/05/2013 12:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Democrats have gone way left, while a lot of republicans have gone way right. Quoting: Brother Love the current mentality is everyone has their opinion and think that they are correct, no matter what and they are going to get what they want. there is no more compromising like in the day of Kennedy and Reagan. Everyone has to fight fight fight instead of working and compromising. Bob Dole was right the other day. Yeah these modern politicians stand for their beliefs, but these beliefs are those of their party, not individuals. They are to be commended for their teamwork, but as a tax payer, I'm not paying them to argue, I'm paying them to legislate. Modern politicians don't do they're job, they campaign 24-7, they give ideological speeches, but they don't get any actual work done. I must respectfully disagree. Compromise isn't always a good thing...letting sh*tty ideas through because you want to compromise is wrong IMO. When you say Republicans have gone further right I disagree as well..over the past 15-20 yrs the republicans have shifted to the left also....guys like McCain...Graham..the RINOS. The guys like Cruz and Paul are trying to bring the party back....trying to reign em in. Regardless of party they all seem to be shifting towards the left.....so those who see this are trying to pull the ship back to the right. Perfect response. All of Washington has gone way to far left and Democrats have succumbed to very nearly all of the communist platform. Republicans have not “gone way right” at all. The Party leadership has practically abandoned constitutional conservatism and compromised so much of what use to be principles away that they are decidedly left of traditional secular and moral law. Just think about the word “conserve” for a minute. It is to keep, to preserve, to retain. All the conservative rock stars like Ted Cruz, Rand Paul, and Mike Lee in the Republican party are doing is reasserting what the leadership has abandoned. Someone who argues in favor of adhering to the bill of rights is not “far right”. Someone who argues for limiting the size of a government that is 17 trillion dollars in debt and counting are not “far right”. It only looks that way when viewed through the statist prism of the Democrat party and the propaganda media. when I said they are getting further right, I was talking about people like you mentioned, Cruz, Paul, and to a lesser extent Rubio. The others mentioned, Graham, McCain, even Bush, Dole were more mainstream than the new guys today. They would compromise to get their jobs done. Overall, the US has gotten more liberal, over hundreds of years and that's because of the education system and the lack of knowledge of oppression. But they've gone too far and are close to really trampling peoples rights. The issue of strong partisism and division was no doubt created by the left, and they have created these non-compromising right wingers. They are not up there on the basis of non-compromise, they are there on the basis of protecting the constitution, but never the less, they do not compromise. For example I would concede the gay rights issue to the democrats in exchange for a more exact and specific addition to the 2nd amendment saying that Americans could own any fire arm they wanted. I wish they would do something like that instead of debating the issues one at a time, is basically what I mean. I don't think personally they are too far right in their positions, but too far in that they will not compromise. As for the liberals, they just need to listen to reason and read some history as to which policies actually stop crime, actually regrow economies, and actually make people free-er and happier. Ok, thanks for clarifying...I can understand and agree with most of that.. |
Evil_Twin User ID: 23761243 United States 06/05/2013 12:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Perfect response. All of Washington has gone way to far left and Democrats have succumbed to very nearly all of the communist platform. Quoting: Resister Republicans have not “gone way right” at all. The Party leadership has practically abandoned constitutional conservatism and compromised so much of what use to be principles away that they are decidedly left of traditional secular and moral law. Just think about the word “conserve” for a minute. It is to keep, to preserve, to retain. All the conservative rock stars like Ted Cruz, Rand Paul, and Mike Lee in the Republican party are doing is reasserting what the leadership has abandoned. Someone who argues in favor of adhering to the bill of rights is not “far right”. Someone who argues for limiting the size of a government that is 17 trillion dollars in debt and counting are not “far right”. It only looks that way when viewed through the statist prism of the Democrat party and the propaganda media. |
Michael Bolton (OP) User ID: 1265695 United States 06/05/2013 12:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | a good example is Mitch McConnell, all he does is oppose the left, he doesn't do anything to help anyone except himself and the GOP, Its time for him to go. I want tx senior senator and GOP whip, john Cornyn as GOP leader in the senate, He's very experienced and is always tough on big government and out od control liberal spending policies. Quoting: Brother Love I do understand what you're saying. At the same time, I don't see why mitch Mcconnell would compromise with socialists....I wouldn't really want him to...some times inaction is better than the wrong action. IMO |
AtsuiPanda User ID: 37815727 United States 06/05/2013 12:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | moved tword fascism and communism, imo right and left stuff is total bs, we need to be centered Quoting: AtsuiPanda Can you explain what you mean? Well you are right in your comment about the right turning left, But we can not function as a county when we are so damn divided.. it is perfect example of this phrase "A house divided against itself cannot stand" We have to work together to run this country.. you know if they really even want it to go on.. imo both republican and democrats have some good ideas, but what i mean as centered is like how recently gay rights, democrats want it, republicans dont, but not only do democrats want gay rights they want us to treat gay people special, Me personally im for gay people getting married but im against people trying to tell me to treat people special, gays are not special they just like the same sex.. Sorry kinda tired to explain XD But the list goes on and on, and im not saying just let anything pass into law but many issues could be centered to meet both views.. but both parties are Stubern.. just my two cents, maybe you will disagree. :/sdfhasdfshasd/: Those who live by the sword die by the sword, those who don't live by the sword are subject to those who do. |
Thee Bob User ID: 28707337 Canada 06/05/2013 12:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A college full of "Democrats" & "Republicans" In a Time of Universal Deceit, Telling the Truth is a Revolutionary Act - George Orwell Rachel Maddow is HOT!!! - Seriously I'd hit it. A VOTE FOR JUSTIN TRUDEAU IN 2015, WOULD BE THE MOST COWARDLY & IRRESPONSIBLE THING A CANADIAN CITIZEN COULD DO TO THEIR OWN PEOPLE. GUN GRABBERS ARE THE COMMON ENEMY OF ALL PEOPLE. GUN CONTROL HAS RESULTED IN THE SLAUGHTER OF 262 MILLION CITIZENS BY THEIR GOVERNMENTS OVER THE PAST 100 YEARS. THE LIBERAL PARTY OF CANADA & THE NDP ENDORSE GUN CONTROL, AN ESSENTIAL POLICY OF HITLER, STALIN, MAO, POL POT, EDI AMIN, QADDAFI, SADDAM, ASSAD, & EVERY OTHER TYRANNICAL GOVERNMENT THIS PAST CENTURY. CANADIANS MUST NEVER FORGET THE BETRAYAL OF BILLS C-68 & C-17. WE MUST NOT REST UNTIL THEY ARE FULLY REPEALED. C-19 WAS A GOOD START......BUT JUST A START. GET OFF YOUR COLLECTIVE ASSES AND MAKE AN IMPACT. WE HAVE 26 MONTHS. I, THEE BOB, SWEAR ON THE ALTER OF GOD TO FIGHT ALL FORMS OF CANADIAN TYRANNY AND SAVE MY COUNTRY FROM THE EVILS OF THE NEW WORLD ORDER. I WILL NEVER HAND IN MY GUNS. EVER. I AM A FREE MAN, I WILL NOT BE THE BITCH OF THE SOCIALIST ESTABLISHMENT. LEAVE ME ALONE. |
Michael Bolton (OP) User ID: 1265695 United States 06/05/2013 12:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | moved tword fascism and communism, imo right and left stuff is total bs, we need to be centered Quoting: AtsuiPanda Can you explain what you mean? Well you are right in your comment about the right turning left, But we can not function as a county when we are so damn divided.. it is perfect example of this phrase "A house divided against itself cannot stand" We have to work together to run this country.. you know if they really even want it to go on.. imo both republican and democrats have some good ideas, but what i mean as centered is like how recently gay rights, democrats want it, republicans dont, but not only do democrats want gay rights they want us to treat gay people special, Me personally im for gay people getting married but im against people trying to tell me to treat people special, gays are not special they just like the same sex.. Sorry kinda tired to explain XD But the list goes on and on, and im not saying just let anything pass into law but many issues could be centered to meet both views.. but both parties are Stubern.. just my two cents, maybe you will disagree. Ok, I see what you're saying. Thanks for explaining. I agree with some of that and disagree with some... Either way thanks for clarifying! |
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PBJ11 User ID: 10061999 United States 06/05/2013 01:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I would rather see them eliminate some laws, rather than agree on new ones. I want unconstitutional laws removed from the books. They could work for years on this alone. Why root for either side to make any new legislation? The thousands of laws on the books already aren't enough? Screw going along to get along. Free the people. When this is done, then we can talk over old times and be buddies. Until then, every single time these bastards get together they take something from me. Enough. PJ |
AtsuiPanda User ID: 37815727 United States 06/05/2013 01:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I agree with you on the socialism issue, every republican up there needs to be against expanding welfare programs, changes to the 2nd amendment, expansion of big government, useless spending, and raising taxes. Quoting: Brother Love Those issues effect every single American. I wish they would compromise on relatively small social issues that are used in every election to get democrats elected. They should concede the gay rights and abortion argument, because they just don't impact our way of life as much. I am opposed to both, I believe that abortion is murder and homosexual marriage could eventually cause a lot of problems with religion and current moral values. But I would gladly concede these issues if we were able to make real progress with the important issues. If the republicans would let the queers wear wedding dresses, and had a policy on abortion close to that of their liberal opponents they would win almost every election because their other policies like lower taxes and more efficient government are common sense issues that I guarantee most people would agree with. Agreed we shouldnt even have most laws on guns if any, and gay right have no effect on me, but shuving it down my throat does. and the abortion thing i am against, but hell at least dont pass stupid laws that make it so girls can get it at the expense of tax payers. pay for it your self :/sdfhasdfshasd/: Those who live by the sword die by the sword, those who don't live by the sword are subject to those who do. |
Michael Bolton (OP) User ID: 1265695 United States 06/05/2013 01:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I agree with you on the socialism issue, every republican up there needs to be against expanding welfare programs, changes to the 2nd amendment, expansion of big government, useless spending, and raising taxes. Quoting: Brother Love Those issues effect every single American. I wish they would compromise on relatively small social issues that are used in every election to get democrats elected. They should concede the gay rights and abortion argument, because they just don't impact our way of life as much. I am opposed to both, I believe that abortion is murder and homosexual marriage could eventually cause a lot of problems with religion and current moral values. But I would gladly concede these issues if we were able to make real progress with the important issues. If the republicans would let the queers wear wedding dresses, and had a policy on abortion close to that of their liberal opponents they would win almost every election because their other policies like lower taxes and more efficient government are common sense issues that I guarantee most people would agree with. Those are good points. Social issues do hurt republicans more than anything IMO |
Michael Bolton (OP) User ID: 1265695 United States 06/05/2013 01:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I would rather see them eliminate some laws, rather than agree on new ones. I want unconstitutional laws removed from the books. They could work for years on this alone. Quoting: PBJ11 Why root for either side to make any new legislation? The thousands of laws on the books already aren't enough? Screw going along to get along. Free the people. When this is done, then we can talk over old times and be buddies. Until then, every single time these bastards get together they take something from me. Enough. I really really agree here. Waaaay too many laws..too many B.S laws. You sound like a libertarian...am I correct? |
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AtsuiPanda User ID: 37815727 United States 06/05/2013 01:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I would rather see them eliminate some laws, rather than agree on new ones. I want unconstitutional laws removed from the books. They could work for years on this alone. Quoting: PBJ11 Why root for either side to make any new legislation? The thousands of laws on the books already aren't enough? Screw going along to get along. Free the people. When this is done, then we can talk over old times and be buddies. Until then, every single time these bastards get together they take something from me. Enough. I agree with this too. 90% of these laws butt fuck the people. :/sdfhasdfshasd/: Those who live by the sword die by the sword, those who don't live by the sword are subject to those who do. |
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Michael Bolton (OP) User ID: 1265695 United States 06/05/2013 01:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I would rather see them eliminate some laws, rather than agree on new ones. I want unconstitutional laws removed from the books. They could work for years on this alone. Quoting: PBJ11 Why root for either side to make any new legislation? The thousands of laws on the books already aren't enough? Screw going along to get along. Free the people. When this is done, then we can talk over old times and be buddies. Until then, every single time these bastards get together they take something from me. Enough. I agree with this too. 90% of these laws butt fuck the people. |
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