Proof Democrats Have Moved Waaaaaay Too Far Left.

I agree with real progressivism as long as it doesnt get in the way of the constitution. but what people call "Progressivism" is ass backwards.

but you are right

What is different between your definition of progressivism and what people call progressivism?

As far as I know it's meant the same since the early 1900's since Margaret Sanger, and up to just a couple yrs ago when Hilary Clinton called herself a progressive..

BOTH parties have shifted too far to the extreme

I disagree....it's hard these days to tell the difference between liberals and the Rinos in congress.

*edit* for cordial clarity: I don't mean to sound like I'm berating a liberal. I don't know you and am not insinuating that you are. I just have standards and principles I am not willing to compromise on.

How much compromise is enough? More importantly, how much compromise is too much? At some point it isn’t about the color of the carpet or the amount of money you are spending. Our Republic was founded principles. Principles are things you aren’t supposed to compromised. We thrived on those principles for a hundred years before “compromise” began to lead to the absolute failures we are seeing now.

We compromised our right to property when we allowed our people to be enslaved by the private bank of the Federal Reserve in 1913 and created the IRS to tax people’s productivity. We compromised our right to keep and bear arms in the 1930s (I think) when the first federal laws about it were passed to outlaw the “Tommy Gun” Thompson automatic rifle. We compromised our right to freedom of religion in the 1960’s when we allowed the federal government banned God from state and local schools. We compromised our right against unreasonable search and seizure with the advent of the TSA’s virtual and actual strip search just to travel from one once free city to another even within the same state. The list is long.

You mentioned being willing to “concede the gay rights issue” in exchange for being able to “own any firearm [you] want”. Thing is, that flies in the face of the 9th amendment that says “The enumeration in the Constitution of certain rights shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people”. Why should any group (homosexuals included) get special and separate rights and why compromise that principle of equality for more clarification on an original enumerated right that is so clear already that it was not questioned in the first hundred years?

Compromise on trivial concerns is at best a gracious learning experience and at worst a necessary evil. That kind of compromise is honorable and will not lead to a complete failure of your society. Compromise just for the sake of getting something, anything done is reckless, irresponsible, and leads to the tyranny of the crisis and solution model of statism we have now. There must be a line in the sand. That line was drawn in 1776 and codified into law in 1791. Erasing and or ignoring that line does not put you on the right hand side of it just because society moved left.

Last Edited by Resister on 06/05/2013 01:29 PM

I wish you were the POTUS!

I would never make it through the first primary. Nobody knows me. I don’t have much money. I am a horrible liar. I hate wearing ties (don’t even own a suit). I have a serious stubborn streak and as aforementioned, refuse to compromise my principles just to get things done. Thanks for the support though.

Last Edited by Resister on 06/05/2013 02:02 PM

hahahahaha.

All the more reasons i'd vote for you.

So what party would the Reagan who legalised abortion, supported amnesty for illegal immigrants, grew the federal payroll by 300,000, raised the capital gains tax and thought FDR was the greatest president belong to?

I'm sure you saw some of the laws just passed in CA about firearms. You now have to pay a $50 fee to buy ammo and you are put on a registry. It's effectively creating a registry for weapons in a backdoor way. Creating a registry is the first step towards confiscation. You have to know who has the weapons in order to confiscate them.

They also required hand guns to have a microstamp on the pin that identifies make model and serial number. Gun manufacturers don't do this and it's cost prohibitive. Meaning the availability of handguns for the average law abiding citizen will shrink. We're not talking about AR-15s, rifles or some other weapon. Handguns are really the last line of defense in terms of weapons.

It's the thick progressive (really authoritarian communism) politics that drives garbage like this. They think only the gov. should have guns because only they can be trusted and it gives them an advantage over the common citizen.

It's pathetic that Americans have become so dumb as to not realize what is going on. In the end Americans only have themselves to blame.

I see what you are trying there...but Reagan officially was never a Republican.

He always identified as a libertarian

Agree, agree and agree.

Only ignorant Americans still care about the Left/Right, Democratic/Republican battles. Wake up you idiots

Only brainwashed, history ignorant people don't see a difference between statism and individual liberty.

The New Hampshire state motto is "live free or die". It actually still says that on their license plates. They drive around every day displaying an ultimatum they have no relationship to and would not adhere to if their life literally depended on it. It's a sick joke now. Anyone still holding to that official state motto is labeled as a "right wing extremist". That is how much has been compromised away in the name of getting things done. We have slipped so far down the slippery slope that compromise of principle is demanded and refusal is labeled as extreme. Try replacing your analogy with the line “I’d rather starve than eat a shit sandwich.” That is what this country use to be about, but we compromised and now everybody is full of shit.

I know for a fact we could do better than obambam

it's all a scam. game over bro.

lol....ok?

Hey Michael,

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