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BREAKING!! - Here come the DEATH PANELS!! ObamaCare DENIES critical life saving organ transplant for 10 YEAR OLD GIRL because shes TOO YOUNG!!

 
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BREAKING!! - Here come the DEATH PANELS!! ObamaCare DENIES critical life saving organ transplant for 10 YEAR OLD GIRL because shes TOO YOUNG!!
Current Health Care Laws under the so called "Affordable Care Act" now dictate that to be eligible for an adult Organ Transplant, one must be more then 12 years old!

Enter little Sarah Murnaghan, a 10-year-old girl dying of cystic fibrosis and a critical life saving lung transplant is waiting to happen for her.

But now, the Department of Health and Human Services that now under the new federal ObamaCare Law oversees organ transplant cases which are now required to have direct approval from the Department Director... whom is Kathleen Sebelius...

...and according to her, this girl is not eligible for this critical life saving operation...

BECAUSE SHE IS TOO YOUNG!!!

WTF!!

Here come the Death Panels! Now you have to meet a certain AGE REQUIREMENT to be eligible for critical life saving organ transplants!!

Before the days our Great and Dear Leader, His Supreme Highness the Beloved Messiah, Caesar Barackus Obamus.... this little girl would have been rush to a Hospital the very moment an eligible donor became available, REGARDLESS of who that donor was!!



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Its because of the fact that its less n a 50% chance, and if the surgery fails or the lung doesnt take, thats a healthy lung that would have had a 80% chance of being successful.
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WTF!!

10 Year Old Girl Condemned to DIE by Kathleen Sebelius, Director of ObamaCare's Department of Health and Human Services!!

Because she is considered TOO YOUNG for a critical life saving organ transplant under the current ObamaCare Law!!
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Its because of the fact that its less n a 50% chance, and if the surgery fails or the lung doesnt take, thats a healthy lung that would have had a 80% chance of being successful.
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I am not a fan of the communist take over of our healthcare but this is true. And consider if one person moves up the list another moves down. The fad can't print organs.
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What good is a 12 year old to the democrats? She can't vote. She can't join the gestapo. She's dead weight. Sure, they'll invest a little in brainwashing her at school, but she isn't worth a hundred grand. That kind of money can finance an Islamic rebellion for weeks.
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Its because of the fact that its less n a 50% chance, and if the surgery fails or the lung doesnt take, thats a healthy lung that would have had a 80% chance of being successful.
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bsflag


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A HEALTHY organ has just as good a chance in a child, if not a BETTER chance, then it does in an adult...

This is because a childs body better at healing and mending and children spring back faster then adults!
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You're right, I dont see why we cant just stick adult sized organs in any old child. Take out a few ribs to make room.
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Get used to this type of story.

These cowardly Democrat extremists will always hide behind the bureaucracy, which is why they created it in the first place.

BUT, we get the govt we deserve. The only thing that can save our country and wake the sheeple up is complete economic collapse, starting with the stock market.
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You're right, I dont see why we cant just stick adult sized organs in any old child. Take out a few ribs to make room.
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So is her life more important than the people who have been waiting a lot longer? This is all about politics, force feed us a dying little girl and all the sheep conform.
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Obviously the first victims will be the elderly and sick children. Then when it becomes the norm anybody with a surgical need will be on the chopping block.
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Its because of the fact that its less n a 50% chance, and if the surgery fails or the lung doesnt take, thats a healthy lung that would have had a 80% chance of being successful.
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bsflag


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A HEALTHY organ has just as good a chance in a child, if not a BETTER chance, then it does in an adult...

This is because a childs body better at healing and mending and children spring back faster then adults!
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I assume it's your years of experience as a transplant doctor that's furnished you with these deep insights, right?
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Its because of the fact that its less n a 50% chance, and if the surgery fails or the lung doesnt take, thats a healthy lung that would have had a 80% chance of being successful.
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bsflag


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A HEALTHY organ has just as good a chance in a child, if not a BETTER chance, then it does in an adult...

This is because a childs body better at healing and mending and children spring back faster then adults!
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There are people ahead of her on the list. What they are asking is for her to move ahead of all of the people who were waiting longer. This could cause someone else to die instead. So the only "death panel" is being pushed by the GOP which is trying to save the child and let someone else die in order to score political points by pinning the decision on Sebelius, who can't change the rule anyway.
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Nope, you're just a fear mongering right winger. You don't know what you're tlaking about.

At least it's what the idiot leftists say.

I really can't believe they denied that child. It's sickening....

Makes me sad.
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they are trying to turn you into UK Major

even the name of the department, DHHS, is like our Department of Health and Social Security, DHSS

it's so fucking obvious what they're doing. they want you to fall into line. Don't fall for it!
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I'm confused now I thought the family just wants her put on the adult list. I don't think they r asking for her to be at the top just on the list that gives her a better chance of finding a match.
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Its because of the fact that its less n a 50% chance, and if the surgery fails or the lung doesnt take, thats a healthy lung that would have had a 80% chance of being successful.
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bsflag


stfu


A HEALTHY organ has just as good a chance in a child, if not a BETTER chance, then it does in an adult...

This is because a childs body better at healing and mending and children spring back faster then adults!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37936964


There are people ahead of her on the list. What they are asking is for her to move ahead of all of the people who were waiting longer. This could cause someone else to die instead. So the only "death panel" is being pushed by the GOP which is trying to save the child and let someone else die in order to score political points by pinning the decision on Sebelius, who can't change the rule anyway.
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Stop demolishing his argument with facts, ya stupid leftist.
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Even the girls own DOCTORS and other Doctors are chiming in, all claiming that this little girl has a very STRONG chance of surviving this Transplant.

No you don't have to remove ribs, for an "adult" transplant. Doctors have been doing this for years without complications...

Until now!

Enter the complication of POLITICS!!

This girls Doctors are claiming this little girl only has 2 - 3 weeks left to live, if she does not get this transplant!
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The messed up thing about the posts on this thread is that you all are arguing about the procedure rather than being aghast that the govt makes the decisions, rather than her physician.

Good to see that you all are falling right in line.


Reminds me to keep a good distance from you zombies and to get a lil more range time in...
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Its because of the fact that its less n a 50% chance, and if the surgery fails or the lung doesnt take, thats a healthy lung that would have had a 80% chance of being successful.
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bsflag


stfu


A HEALTHY organ has just as good a chance in a child, if not a BETTER chance, then it does in an adult...

This is because a childs body better at healing and mending and children spring back faster then adults!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37936964


There are people ahead of her on the list. What they are asking is for her to move ahead of all of the people who were waiting longer. This could cause someone else to die instead. So the only "death panel" is being pushed by the GOP which is trying to save the child and let someone else die in order to score political points by pinning the decision on Sebelius, who can't change the rule anyway.
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This "List" has nothing to do with who is ahead of who...

It has more to do with whose case is more critical then others. A little girl who only has 2 - 3 weeks left to live, is considered a VERY critical case by Doctors, and they all say, she NEEDS THIS transplant, RIGHT NOW!
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Current Health Care Laws under the so called "Affordable Care Act" now dictate that to be eligible for an adult Organ Transplant, one must be more then 12 years old!

Enter little Sarah Murnaghan, a 10-year-old girl dying of cystic fibrosis and a critical life saving lung transplant is waiting to happen for her.

But now, the Department of Health and Human Services that now under the new federal ObamaCare Law oversees organ transplant cases which are now required to have direct approval from the Department Director... whom is Kathleen Sebelius...

...and according to her, this girl is not eligible for this critical life saving operation...

BECAUSE SHE IS TOO YOUNG!!!

WTF!!

Here come the Death Panels! Now you have to meet a certain AGE REQUIREMENT to be eligible for critical life saving organ transplants!!

Before the days our Great and Dear Leader, His Supreme Highness the Beloved Messiah, Caesar Barackus Obamus.... this little girl would have been rush to a Hospital the very moment an eligible donor became available, REGARDLESS of who that donor was!!



[link to washingtonexaminer.com]

[link to www.nowtheendbegins.com]

[link to www.foxnews.com]

[link to thelasttradition.blogspot.com]

[link to liberalforum.org]
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It had to go to one the elites, so they can extend their life an extra year.
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The messed up thing about the posts on this thread is that you all are arguing about the procedure rather than being aghast that the govt makes the decisions, rather than her physician.

Good to see that you all are falling right in line.


Reminds me to keep a good distance from you zombies and to get a lil more range time in...
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Current Health Care Laws under the so called "Affordable Care Act" now dictate that to be eligible for an adult Organ Transplant, one must be more then 12 years old!

Enter little Sarah Murnaghan, a 10-year-old girl dying of cystic fibrosis and a critical life saving lung transplant is waiting to happen for her.

But now, the Department of Health and Human Services that now under the new federal ObamaCare Law oversees organ transplant cases which are now required to have direct approval from the Department Director... whom is Kathleen Sebelius...

...and according to her, this girl is not eligible for this critical life saving operation...

BECAUSE SHE IS TOO YOUNG!!!

WTF!!

Here come the Death Panels! Now you have to meet a certain AGE REQUIREMENT to be eligible for critical life saving organ transplants!!

Before the days our Great and Dear Leader, His Supreme Highness the Beloved Messiah, Caesar Barackus Obamus.... this little girl would have been rush to a Hospital the very moment an eligible donor became available, REGARDLESS of who that donor was!!



[link to washingtonexaminer.com]

[link to www.nowtheendbegins.com]

[link to www.foxnews.com]

[link to thelasttradition.blogspot.com]

[link to liberalforum.org]
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It is absolutely fucking sickening what Obama and his handlers have done to this country and all of his supporters cheer him and the agenda that he has brought. What an absolute Obamanation what he has brought to the table and all of the gangster tactics that have transpired since he has been in office.

The irony of a black man enslaving a free nation that has been ruled by white people for hundreds of years is really quite interesting. My personal opinion is that it's no accident that this administration is imploding into a dictatorship under a Kenyan... I think we are being duped and led on a string with all of the things that are going on right now because America has to be destroyed for the NWO to take place... We are the last bastion of freedom and it has to be destroyed because we can't have slaves be free... Oh the irony... And I have no problems with any person based on their race. I look at what his morals are and what he/she brings to the table.

And if you protest anything he has to say...you're a racist.... Oh, the irony....

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Current Health Care Laws under the so called "Affordable Care Act" now dictate that to be eligible for an adult Organ Transplant, one must be more then 12 years old!

Enter little Sarah Murnaghan, a 10-year-old girl dying of cystic fibrosis and a critical life saving lung transplant is waiting to happen for her.

But now, the Department of Health and Human Services that now under the new federal ObamaCare Law oversees organ transplant cases which are now required to have direct approval from the Department Director... whom is Kathleen Sebelius...

...and according to her, this girl is not eligible for this critical life saving operation...

BECAUSE SHE IS TOO YOUNG!!!

WTF!!

Here come the Death Panels! Now you have to meet a certain AGE REQUIREMENT to be eligible for critical life saving organ transplants!!

Before the days our Great and Dear Leader, His Supreme Highness the Beloved Messiah, Caesar Barackus Obamus.... this little girl would have been rush to a Hospital the very moment an eligible donor became available, REGARDLESS of who that donor was!!



[link to washingtonexaminer.com]

[link to www.nowtheendbegins.com]

[link to www.foxnews.com]

[link to thelasttradition.blogspot.com]

[link to liberalforum.org]
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It is absolutely fucking sickening what Obama and his handlers have done to this country and all of his supporters cheer him and the agenda that he has brought. What an absolute Obamanation what he has brought to the table and all of the gangster tactics that have transpired since he has been in office.

The irony of a black man enslaving a free nation that has been ruled by white people for hundreds of years is really quite interesting. My personal opinion is that it's no accident that this administration is imploding into a dictatorship under a Kenyan... I think we are being duped and led on a string with all of the things that are going on right now because America has to be destroyed for the NWO to take place... We are the last bastion of freedom and it has to be destroyed because we can't have slaves be free... Oh the irony... And I have no problems with any person based on their race. I look at what his morals are and what he/she brings to the table.

And if you protest anything he has to say...you're a racist.... Oh, the irony....

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Yeah, so it turns out this hasn't actually got anything to do with Obamacare whatsoever:

[link to www.pennlive.com]

Janet Murnaghan said Sarah has been awaiting a transplant from a pediatric donor and is also eligible for a lung from an adult donor. Under a policy instituted in 2005, organ allocation policies are supposed to be based on severity of illness rather than the amount of time on the waiting list, but that approach only applies to patients over the age of 12. Sarah is a top priority on the pediatric list, but officials say there are far fewer pediatric donors due to improved treatment.

Better luck next time eh, fellas?
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Had this been one of Obama's kids they would get the transplant.You should be OUTRAGED American enough so to remove Obama from office and void all his fucked up policies.
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Had this been one of Obama's kids they would get the transplant.You should be OUTRAGED American enough so to remove Obama from office and void all his fucked up policies.
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And Bush's kids and Clinton's kids and Reagan's kids etc...You people are so blinded by ideology you might as well be a leftist communist. When are people going to wake up to the fact that this has nothing to do with left vs right and more to do with them vs us. Them being the elites who run every aspect of this world, in collusion, and us being the dumb fucks who want to argue over nonsensical isms. Every time someone argues about obamacare and communism or neocons and fascism they have won. Until the argument becomes about the collective government and the collective corporations who are fucking us everyday together, they continue to win. I can't believe I have to say this on a conspiracy forum in 2013, but open your eyes people. No matter what party is in charge we continue to get fucked and "they" continue to grossly prosper.... This is not hyperbole, this is statistical facts.
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Had this been one of Obama's kids they would get the transplant.You should be OUTRAGED American enough so to remove Obama from office and void all his fucked up policies.
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Get angry and remove him from office over a policy enacted 3 years before he was elected? That's a neat trick.
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Yeah, so it turns out this hasn't actually got anything to do with Obamacare whatsoever:

[link to www.pennlive.com]

Janet Murnaghan said Sarah has been awaiting a transplant from a pediatric donor and is also eligible for a lung from an adult donor. Under a policy instituted in 2005, organ allocation policies are supposed to be based on severity of illness rather than the amount of time on the waiting list, but that approach only applies to patients over the age of 12. Sarah is a top priority on the pediatric list, but officials say there are far fewer pediatric donors due to improved treatment.
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Better luck next time eh, fellas?


Thank you. The voice of reason. Why is it that everyone missed that? I calmly kept scrolling to see if anyone else would point that out.
It is indeed a sad situation that needs to be looked at, but the rules they're following for this case were established well before Obamacare. Uh oh...I guess this makes us shills now.....
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The funny thing is that the current transplant policy was drawn up (in 2005) by members of the OPTN, who are medical doctors and came up with a policy that they believe will give most patients the greatest chance of surviving.

And now the Repuiblicans want Sebelius (a politician) to interfere in this decision making and bump the girl up the list, making a decision which could save her life but might also shorten the life of someone else.

So basically the Republicans want a politician to overrule the medical opinion of a doctor to decide if someone lives or dies.

Sounds a bit a death panel, right?

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