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Double O Zero User ID: 10397260 United States 06/06/2013 01:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's why I'm planning a move to West Virginia, even though I like lots of things in SWPA. Any state with a big city is eventually screwed. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 41206364 United States 06/06/2013 01:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | PA is the worthless state where you have to get your car inspected every year at a muffler or tire shop and sure enough, every year they find something that needs replaced....and keystone fluney cops can arrest a 10-year-old for firecrackers. Seriously, that state is tooooo stupid to live in. Strip bars and bars on every corner, but yougo to jail if you light a bottle rocket. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41214258 Bingo!! Yeah, it is one of the most corrupt, archaic, and truly strange places to live. The cities are filled with degenerate crazies and the rural areas tend to be filled with Pagans, Freemasons, with a little Amish mixed in for good measure. It does have its good points though...if you know where to look. But things have been getting worse here every day it seems. You can feel the tension in the air. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 41038662 Australia 06/06/2013 01:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I started selling my bath and body products at a farmer's market a couple of weeks ago. Today, two "official" looking people showed up with Commonwealth of PA badges and said they were from the State Tax Dept. They went to every table and harassed every person selling items at the market. They wanted to see everyone's tax certificates and asked for their cell phone numbers "just in case we need to contact you". One farmer who was selling plants said that they have been there about 5 times in recent months harassing them. He said he has produced his tax certificate each and every time, and yet, they continue to harass him (and others). Today, when they asked for his cell phone number he refused to give it to them. They then asked him if he had a "nursery license" to sell the plants. He told them it was none of their business, and that is not their department's responsibility, it's the Dept of Agriculture. This whole thing has me freaked out? I mean why pick on people that are just trying to make a living? What next.....will they start harassing people having garage sales? Why don't they go after companies like GE instead? I wanted to give them the White House's phone number instead of mine....I figured since Obama said "we didn't build it".....They could go after Obama for the tax certificate. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34107807 uhh doh. because they own GE? they don't want you selling shit, they want you to buy theirs and want you to be dependent on only their food. Why question the bleed'n obvious 'ol chap. |
Soylent Market User ID: 6646945 Austria 06/06/2013 02:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Agenda is to destroy the independent entrepreneur who is suffient enough to produce a product that is demanded by society. There is a derth of farmer's markets in America. They are a sign that the economy is growing from the grass roots. Supporting them is our best chance at ending the corporate hegemony in the West. They will also be attacked likewise. All centralizing (whether fascist or communist) regimes lead to the demise of small farmers and producers. |
SkinnyChic User ID: 35787599 United States 06/06/2013 02:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Agenda is to destroy the independent entrepreneur who is suffient enough to produce a product that is demanded by society. There is a derth of farmer's markets in America. They are a sign that the economy is growing from the grass roots. Supporting them is our best chance at ending the corporate hegemony in the West. They will also be attacked likewise. Quoting: Soylent Market 6646945 All centralizing (whether fascist or communist) regimes lead to the demise of small farmers and producers. THIS. Plus they don't want us eating healthy. They want your only choice to be a GMO. Everyone needs to be growing their own food. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 41182375 Canada 06/06/2013 02:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I started selling my bath and body products at a farmer's market a couple of weeks ago. Today, two "official" looking people showed up with Commonwealth of PA badges and said they were from the State Tax Dept. They went to every table and harassed every person selling items at the market. They wanted to see everyone's tax certificates and asked for their cell phone numbers "just in case we need to contact you". One farmer who was selling plants said that they have been there about 5 times in recent months harassing them. He said he has produced his tax certificate each and every time, and yet, they continue to harass him (and others). Today, when they asked for his cell phone number he refused to give it to them. They then asked him if he had a "nursery license" to sell the plants. He told them it was none of their business, and that is not their department's responsibility, it's the Dept of Agriculture. This whole thing has me freaked out? I mean why pick on people that are just trying to make a living? What next.....will they start harassing people having garage sales? Why don't they go after companies like GE instead? I wanted to give them the White House's phone number instead of mine....I figured since Obama said "we didn't build it".....They could go after Obama for the tax certificate. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34107807 they harass kids selling lemonade.... |
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Judethz User ID: 41218060 United Kingdom 06/06/2013 02:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I witnessed similar at the weekly open air farmer's market in West Chester, PA a few years ago, except the lackeys doing the harassing were from the county. They were asking vendors for business licenses, food and beverage sales permits, etc. Quoting: HarryHood They even confiscated root beer. One of the Amish family's stands sold homemade root beer in glass jugs. The lackeys took it all because he didn't have the proper permits nor was it pasteurized. After that, the shoppers anger over the situation escalated and eventually everyone was yelling at and booing the county lackeys. The county reps left promptly at that point. I understand the need for food safety and regulations to that end but this wasn't a grocery store. If you shop at a farmer's market, you know you are buying direct from small family owned farms and vendors. You know the stuff wasn't tested and treated the same way as mass produced food - and that's the point. I still get angry when picturing the Amish man and his young son sitting there looking bewildered as his root beer was being carted off. There's your answer to this problem. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1018225 United States 06/06/2013 02:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Its about unity. When neighborhoods, villages and counties come together there is always a chance it will grow. People trading buying and talking leads to boycotts, protests and other forms of unity. When you get a lot of people together who have a common interest or taste the walls of separation begin to crumble and conversations spontaneously begin. Look at smokers, for years being a smoker was like being the member of a club. You are sitting in the smoking section and you start a conversation with a stranger with "do you happen to have a light"?... People talking about organic food, especially can lead to talking about GMOs and other such things. Stop strangers from communicating (in person) and there will never be any unity. |
MartianPrincess User ID: 1302027 United States 06/06/2013 04:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We NEED to form groups where we can all organize to harass the shit out of such agencies in the US whenever this happens. It is time to FIGHT BACK! If people can join forces by the thousands to do this to a beauty salon/spa for being mean to an autistic child, we can do this to preserve our right to grow our own foods and sell them at farmers markets like we always have. Occam's Razor, morans! |
MartianPrincess User ID: 1302027 United States 06/06/2013 04:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It is not about taxes, or health or even profit... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1018225 Its about unity. When neighborhoods, villages and counties come together there is always a chance it will grow. People trading buying and talking leads to boycotts, protests and other forms of unity. When you get a lot of people together who have a common interest or taste the walls of separation begin to crumble and conversations spontaneously begin. Look at smokers, for years being a smoker was like being the member of a club. You are sitting in the smoking section and you start a conversation with a stranger with "do you happen to have a light"?... People talking about organic food, especially can lead to talking about GMOs and other such things. Stop strangers from communicating (in person) and there will never be any unity. Perhaps this was the ultimate motive for the advent of the internet age. Occam's Razor, morans! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1018225 United States 06/06/2013 04:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We NEED to form groups where we can all organize to harass the shit out of such agencies in the US whenever this happens. It is time to FIGHT BACK! If people can join forces by the thousands to do this to a beauty salon/spa for being mean to an autistic child, we can do this to preserve our right to grow our own foods and sell them at farmers markets like we always have. Quoting: MartianPrincess Pestering the authorities is futile...it would only lead to confrontation, and guess whose side the peace officers would be on... What needs to happen is old school BBS systems need to be set up and people need to get together in their own communities and bypass vulnerable central open trading. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1018225 United States 06/06/2013 04:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It is not about taxes, or health or even profit... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1018225 Its about unity. When neighborhoods, villages and counties come together there is always a chance it will grow. People trading buying and talking leads to boycotts, protests and other forms of unity. When you get a lot of people together who have a common interest or taste the walls of separation begin to crumble and conversations spontaneously begin. Look at smokers, for years being a smoker was like being the member of a club. You are sitting in the smoking section and you start a conversation with a stranger with "do you happen to have a light"?... People talking about organic food, especially can lead to talking about GMOs and other such things. Stop strangers from communicating (in person) and there will never be any unity. Perhaps this was the ultimate motive for the advent of the internet age. In the early days you still talked to people you really knew and saw them occasionally. |
MartianPrincess User ID: 1201724 United States 06/06/2013 04:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We NEED to form groups where we can all organize to harass the shit out of such agencies in the US whenever this happens. It is time to FIGHT BACK! If people can join forces by the thousands to do this to a beauty salon/spa for being mean to an autistic child, we can do this to preserve our right to grow our own foods and sell them at farmers markets like we always have. Quoting: MartianPrincess Pestering the authorities is futile...it would only lead to confrontation, and guess whose side the peace officers would be on... What needs to happen is old school BBS systems need to be set up and people need to get together in their own communities and bypass vulnerable central open trading. Sorry for my disjointed statement, I am tired. Meant to hit them back through social media - spreads like wildfire. Occam's Razor, morans! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 39519440 United States 06/06/2013 04:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Dealing with the local "Crumb Cops" health dept inspectors on a weekly basis I have only one question for them when our one way conversation is finished and I have my Food Permit in hand. Now that I have given your county health department 50.00 dollars, are my pretzels now safer for the public to consume as samples than what they were before you stole 50 dollars from me?? They get a glazed over look in thier eye and walk away. Problem is the rules vary from county to county, They all use the FDA guidelines as just that guidelines and they can even go beyond current FDA regulations. You just never know what each county is going to ask for next. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1018225 United States 06/06/2013 04:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We NEED to form groups where we can all organize to harass the shit out of such agencies in the US whenever this happens. It is time to FIGHT BACK! If people can join forces by the thousands to do this to a beauty salon/spa for being mean to an autistic child, we can do this to preserve our right to grow our own foods and sell them at farmers markets like we always have. Quoting: MartianPrincess Pestering the authorities is futile...it would only lead to confrontation, and guess whose side the peace officers would be on... What needs to happen is old school BBS systems need to be set up and people need to get together in their own communities and bypass vulnerable central open trading. Sorry for my disjointed statement, I am tired. Meant to hit them back through social media - spreads like wildfire. Right on! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1018225 United States 06/06/2013 04:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Dealing with the local "Crumb Cops" health dept inspectors on a weekly basis I have only one question for them when our one way conversation is finished and I have my Food Permit in hand. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 39519440 Now that I have given your county health department 50.00 dollars, are my pretzels now safer for the public to consume as samples than what they were before you stole 50 dollars from me?? They get a glazed over look in thier eye and walk away. Problem is the rules vary from county to county, They all use the FDA guidelines as just that guidelines and they can even go beyond current FDA regulations. You just never know what each county is going to ask for next. The fees are even different from county to county for various health department certifications... My friend runs a tattoo shop and thought about opening another one in a different county, but the fees were so ridiculous he decided to stay out of that county, because he figures if they need money that bad the whole economy must be awful there... |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1028756 United States 06/06/2013 06:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I started selling my bath and body products at a farmer's market a couple of weeks ago. Today, two "official" looking people showed up with Commonwealth of PA badges and said they were from the State Tax Dept. They went to every table and harassed every person selling items at the market. They wanted to see everyone's tax certificates and asked for their cell phone numbers "just in case we need to contact you". One farmer who was selling plants said that they have been there about 5 times in recent months harassing them. He said he has produced his tax certificate each and every time, and yet, they continue to harass him (and others). Today, when they asked for his cell phone number he refused to give it to them. They then asked him if he had a "nursery license" to sell the plants. He told them it was none of their business, and that is not their department's responsibility, it's the Dept of Agriculture. This whole thing has me freaked out? I mean why pick on people that are just trying to make a living? What next.....will they start harassing people having garage sales? Why don't they go after companies like GE instead? I wanted to give them the White House's phone number instead of mine....I figured since Obama said "we didn't build it".....They could go after Obama for the tax certificate. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34107807 Private Businesses or private business owners are not what the current government likes. :retread: :obeyo: THIS! Anyone self employed who doesn't want to be part of the corporate slave herd is getting stealth barred from finding work, or harassed like this, or even driven out of the corporate herd if they don't have the obsequious, fearful mentality that the controllers want. I no longer believe we are dealing with human beings, I think we are under invasion by ET. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1028756 United States 06/06/2013 06:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It is not about taxes, or health or even profit... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1018225 Its about unity. When neighborhoods, villages and counties come together there is always a chance it will grow. People trading buying and talking leads to boycotts, protests and other forms of unity. When you get a lot of people together who have a common interest or taste the walls of separation begin to crumble and conversations spontaneously begin. Look at smokers, for years being a smoker was like being the member of a club. You are sitting in the smoking section and you start a conversation with a stranger with "do you happen to have a light"?... People talking about organic food, especially can lead to talking about GMOs and other such things. Stop strangers from communicating (in person) and there will never be any unity. Perhaps this was the ultimate motive for the advent of the internet age. In the early days you still talked to people you really knew and saw them occasionally. OK... This is really VERY important. This is where they have us! They invented the cell phone to be the instrument that would make face to face communication obsolete and allow the controllers to also monitor all communications. Wifi is not really our friend. The radiation from it is toxic, especially from the towers. People have been humiliated into believing that is not harmful to them. Cell phone calls can also be easily messed with, or even hijacked and diverted, with people pretending to be other people. I think this happened to me when I tried to talk to some law enforcement about missing/abused family member. The controllers, whoever they are, are manipulating us all with the Internet in this way, too. They manipulate our reality quite easily. And now a younger generation that has never known anything else have been trained to abuse and be trapped and controlled by this incipient Big Brother state. Yet "Nothing is going on" ! This is, of course, all in your feverish conspiracy addled mind... The point is that many people are now horribly isolated, this was what the controllers wanted. To effectively separate and divide us. Our survival depends on meeting face to face in groups and working together. But at this stage of the game everything everywhere is infested with their dirty secret agents, who DO gather in secret and plot against the rest of us, using gang stalking and harrassment to further beat down victims. DAMN RIGHT IT IS TIME TO GET UP AND DO SOMETHING BEFORE THEY ACHIEVE FULL LOCKDOWN. Use your imagination and stay safe. |