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Funny think is, is that I always assumed that all phone calls and internet activity are monitored anyhow.

That's why I used to talk in code to my pot dealer in the '70's. I guess now reality is just rising to meet my paranoia.
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Proof of police state: Obama Admin caught and admits to spying on Americans.. Seizes all american call records from Verizon AT&T ....access to your bank records, your email Internet records and now FBI wants backdoor access to al Internet forums chat and social media channels
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This has been going on since the '60's. Back then we were all just "paranoid".

This IS NOT a Democrat/ republican thing.
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QUESTION: Are "Obama Phones" being monitored under this seizure?
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Proof of police state: Obama Admin caught and admits to spying on Americans.. Seizes all american call records from Verizon AT&T ....access to your bank records, your email Internet records and now FBI wants backdoor access to al Internet forums chat and social media channels
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This has been going on since the '60's. Back then we were all just "paranoid".

This IS NOT a Democrat/ republican thing.
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How can so many people continue to make excuses for this guy? Yes, SOME of this has been going on since the 60s, but what this president is doing goes above and beyond what any previous administration has done.

This guy got elected by bozos like you who bought his bullshit about transpaparancy, and now those same retards are the first to say well duh bush did it too.... Are you people fucking dumb?

This president is breaking more laws, taking away more freedoms and destroying this country faster than all the previous assholes put together.
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this isn't news....Bush is the one who made all this shit happen
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You truly are an idiot and the kind of American that has allowed this to happen to us. In case you forgot Obama has been president for 5 years now, i think it's time to start blaming the current president for the current unconstitutional criminal actions.

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The statement that this started under Bush is mostly correct. After the carefully choreographed events designed to allow legal targeting Americans for mass surveillance, Bush did just that. Obama is a failure in that he has not lived up to his campaign promises in the least, but this sort of program, with heavy funding and defense contractors running the show, is very hard (impossible) to stop once initiated.
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Remember when a bunch of people said "If Obama is elected I'm leaving the county?"

I actually did. Because I knew it would come to this. Unlike most keyboard warriors I put my money where my fucking mouth was, so to speak.

Since November 2008 I have been scouring the globe, going from country to country in search of simple FREEDOM.

Guess what: It's gone. Everywhere. Doesn't matter where you go anymore. The tentacles are everywhere.

I guess I will be coming home soon, weary with this knowledge, poorer but wiser. I'm thinking Alaska, Northern Idaho, or Montana, off the grid.
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Couple of questions, if I may:

Have you tried some South American/Central American countries?

Do you continue to pay taxes in the U.S.?
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this isn't news....Bush is the one who made all this shit happen
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You truly are an idiot and the kind of American that has allowed this to happen to us. In case you forgot Obama has been president for 5 years now, i think it's time to start blaming the current president for the current unconstitutional criminal actions.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32328802


The statement that this started under Bush is mostly correct. After the carefully choreographed events designed to allow legal targeting Americans for mass surveillance, Bush did just that. Obama is a failure in that he has not lived up to his campaign promises in the least, but this sort of program, with heavy funding and defense contractors running the show, is very hard (impossible) to stop once initiated.
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Nope you fail. It's not hard to stop at all if he wanted to. The problem that the Obama lovers fail to grasp is HE DOESN'T WANT TO STOP IT, and he has increaesed it 1,000 times past what bush ever did.
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And they're not content with spying on just Americans, they've supplied the UK government with the means to spy on the Brits too:

Thread: Britons ARE being spied on by surveillance agencies: GCHQ using phone records and online data gleaned by US government to snoop on citizens
President Obama: “The future does not belong to those who slander the prophet of Islam”.
President Reagan: “The future doesn’t belong to the fainthearted; it belongs to the brave….”
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this isn't news....Bush is the one who made all this shit happen
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You truly are an idiot and the kind of American that has allowed this to happen to us. In case you forgot Obama has been president for 5 years now, i think it's time to start blaming the current president for the current unconstitutional criminal actions.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32328802


The statement that this started under Bush is mostly correct. After the carefully choreographed events designed to allow legal targeting Americans for mass surveillance, Bush did just that. Obama is a failure in that he has not lived up to his campaign promises in the least, but this sort of program, with heavy funding and defense contractors running the show, is very hard (impossible) to stop once initiated.
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Nope you fail. It's not hard to stop at all if he wanted to. The problem that the Obama lovers fail to grasp is HE DOESN'T WANT TO STOP IT, and he has increaesed it 1,000 times past what bush ever did.
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I think you are confused as to who actually runs the USA. Just to clarify, I am in no way an "Obama lover". I did vote for him in the first term, which I now regret. My point is that understanding the history of this program is key to eliminating it. Bush & Cheney started this fuck all mess...Obama has perpetuated it and expanded it.
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Keeping all the ducks from organizing a push back.
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Remember when a bunch of people said "If Obama is elected I'm leaving the county?"

I actually did. Because I knew it would come to this. Unlike most keyboard warriors I put my money where my fucking mouth was, so to speak.

Since November 2008 I have been scouring the globe, going from country to country in search of simple FREEDOM.

Guess what: It's gone. Everywhere. Doesn't matter where you go anymore. The tentacles are everywhere.

I guess I will be coming home soon, weary with this knowledge, poorer but wiser. I'm thinking Alaska, Northern Idaho, or Montana, off the grid.
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Yeah, that's why I never even bothered. Every place in the world that has any illusion of freedom is just that, an illusion. The only people who are truly free are those who have made themselves disappear. But then again, they aren't truly free as they have to put all their effort into staying hidden, becoming slaves of their paranoia.

Damn, this world really is FUBAR...
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I LOVE how Obama (like he said he would) is changing so much from Bush policies! yeahsure
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Two sides of the same coin.

The insidiousness comes from the fact that Obama can get away with tyranny that Bush could never have even considered.
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I think we have to just tsunami them with inane idiotic shit. This is one thing many Americans just might be good at.
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I LOVE how Obama (like he said he would) is changing so much from Bush policies! yeahsure
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Two sides of the same coin.

The insidiousness comes from the fact that Obama can get away with tyranny that Bush could never have even considered.
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clappa
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Proof of police state: Obama Admin caught and admits to spying on Americans.. Seizes all american call records from Verizon AT&T ....access to your bank records, your email Internet records and now FBI wants backdoor access to al Internet forums chat and social media channels
[link to offgridsurvival.com]
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This has been going on since the '60's. Back then we were all just "paranoid".

This IS NOT a Democrat/ republican thing.
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Thats right the sooner we all get that D vs R is kabuki theater, the sooner we can identify the problem and do something about it.
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You truly are an idiot and the kind of American that has allowed this to happen to us. In case you forgot Obama has been president for 5 years now, i think it's time to start blaming the current president for the current unconstitutional criminal actions.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32328802


The statement that this started under Bush is mostly correct. After the carefully choreographed events designed to allow legal targeting Americans for mass surveillance, Bush did just that. Obama is a failure in that he has not lived up to his campaign promises in the least, but this sort of program, with heavy funding and defense contractors running the show, is very hard (impossible) to stop once initiated.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37274649


Nope you fail. It's not hard to stop at all if he wanted to. The problem that the Obama lovers fail to grasp is HE DOESN'T WANT TO STOP IT, and he has increaesed it 1,000 times past what bush ever did.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32328802


I think you are confused as to who actually runs the USA. Just to clarify, I am in no way an "Obama lover". I did vote for him in the first term, which I now regret. My point is that understanding the history of this program is key to eliminating it. Bush & Cheney started this fuck all mess...Obama has perpetuated it and expanded it.
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ohyeah THIS! So tired of people who think it all started with Obama. I'm not defending him at all, I'm just seeing hime for what he really is, a puppet. Did they pay no attention to the world around them from 2001 to 2009? Hell, it started for Bush. If people honestly think what's happening now wasn't planned for decades to be perpetuated by puppet presidents are just sheep giving in to the current frenzy. I wonder how many people here even heard of Obama before 2009? Hell, I wonder how many people here even new what a Muslim was before 2001!
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The statement that this started under Bush is mostly correct. After the carefully choreographed events designed to allow legal targeting Americans for mass surveillance, Bush did just that. Obama is a failure in that he has not lived up to his campaign promises in the least, but this sort of program, with heavy funding and defense contractors running the show, is very hard (impossible) to stop once initiated.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37274649


Nope you fail. It's not hard to stop at all if he wanted to. The problem that the Obama lovers fail to grasp is HE DOESN'T WANT TO STOP IT, and he has increaesed it 1,000 times past what bush ever did.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32328802


I think you are confused as to who actually runs the USA. Just to clarify, I am in no way an "Obama lover". I did vote for him in the first term, which I now regret. My point is that understanding the history of this program is key to eliminating it. Bush & Cheney started this fuck all mess...Obama has perpetuated it and expanded it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37274649


ohyeah THIS! So tired of people who think it all started with Obama. I'm not defending him at all, I'm just seeing hime for what he really is, a puppet. Did they pay no attention to the world around them from 2001 to 2009? Hell, it started for Bush. If people honestly think what's happening now wasn't planned for decades to be perpetuated by puppet presidents are just sheep giving in to the current frenzy. I wonder how many people here even heard of Obama before 2009? Hell, I wonder how many people here even new what a Muslim was before 2001!
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Meant to say there it started even BEFORE Bush. ugh
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Keeping all the ducks from organizing a push back.
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Bingo
If we don't listen we will never hear the truth
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Old news buddy, bush is the one who signed in the patriot act. Shits been going on for years
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oldphone "Have you found him?"

:kidphone: "Yes, we found him. He reincarnated into our president. Please come get him, we want our country back. I have to go...I'm using Verizon"
If we don't listen we will never hear the truth
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Old news buddy, bush is the one who signed in the patriot act. Shits been going on for years
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My bad, president cheney is the one who brought this shit about.
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I LOVE how Obama (like he said he would) is changing so much from Bush policies! yeahsure
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Two sides of the same coin.

The insidiousness comes from the fact that Obama can get away with tyranny that Bush could never have even considered.
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clappa
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Hit the nail right on the head. Obama's danger comes from all the idiots who defend him no matter what he does. Bush got away with some shit but he had a much harder time because the lefty idiots in the media went after him every chance they got.

With Obama we have a delusional population that see this guy ass some sort of superhuman power. We also have a Blackman who knows how to use his race. People in this county are scared to say anything about this guy without being labeled a racist
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Bama-Foam tapped:

Ook daz raht muhfucca gnome-sane derp…frawd chickenz n grape drank…where da white wiminze be atz?
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And by the way saying shits been going on for years is not a valid excuse.
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When you are a psychopath working directly for Satan to destroy mankind and the world you get a little paranoid about who knows what you're doing. This information will be used later for "artificial intelligence" to sort through so it can spit out a list of who needs killed. This will be a list of all of Gods people by the way. What a bunch of fools; they have never stepped one foot in the dimension of the fallen angels (hell) but are desperate to get there at any cost. I will not dip a finger in water and put it on any of their lips. They can rot there for eternity; idiots! Beware of bearers of false gifts and their broken promises. A warning they will wish they had heeded. Let's see if their trillions of dollars can buy their way out of this one.

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Hmm. Maybe if I had mentioned something about Justin beibwr people would have cared.... Amazing how complacent this county has become.
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Many of us care and are very angry. What can we legally do about this though? Demonstrating is a demonstrated failure. People walk up and down in cages and make noise, and nobody cares. The erected "representatives" spout nonsense and ignore us. Complaining just gets you a new file in the system.

Many of us do care and don't cooperate, but that's not enough. Any GOOD ideas?
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Meant to say there it started even BEFORE Bush. ugh
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I'm sure are correct, but the details get muddy there.
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Many of us care and are very angry. What can we legally do about this though? Demonstrating is a demonstrated failure. People walk up and down in cages and make noise, and nobody cares. The erected "representatives" spout nonsense and ignore us. Complaining just gets you a new file in the system.

Many of us do care and don't cooperate, but that's not enough. Any GOOD ideas?
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Disconnect. As individuals, it is pretty much the only substantial action we can take right now. The US Post Office still delivers mail without reading it first, for now anyway.
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Hmm. Maybe if I had mentioned something about Justin beibwr people would have cared.... Amazing how complacent this county has become.
HOW SAD
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It's gonna get a whole lot sadder.

Most people won't care until they are in the camps, with no cell phone service, or video games.
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Meanwhile, Americans will do absolutely nothing. They have done nothing, knowing full well this is happening. 50 years ago, Americans would have never tolerated this. American society has been broken. Broken families, broken education, broken system. You let local government ass rape you all the way to the top of the federal government, while 50% of the population squander to government left-overs. Our society is so broken it cannot even defend itself from encroaching Islamic fanaticism taking over our society.

This is the real America folks. The do nothing crowd. Any revolution or rebellion would end up being crushed because it would never gain any momentum to stop this, since everyone just stands there and does nothing. Keep on paying your taxes in fear of arrests.

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