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New Bible translation pleases modern western teenage girls: "Mary was not a virgin"

 
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New Bible translation pleases modern western teenage girls: "Mary was not a virgin"
Released in October 2011 by the Norwegian Bible Society, the new translation replaces a 1978 edition, with the goal of improving readability and accuracy. For example, in the older version, Mary was called a “virgin.” In the new translation she is referred to instead as a “young” woman. The U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops also made this change in its latest Bible translation from 2011, saying the change didn’t alter teaching about Mary, but was meant to address the possible different meanings of the Hebrew word “almah” in the text.

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if that was in the link, it was missed by me.

the headline of the link is about the resurgence of the Bible in Norway.
Now is the time.
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i don't like how this thread is titled; it's rude.

Those bishops ought to know that changing the word of God will get them into serious trouble one day with the Almighty.
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Scholars have known this since it was written. They purposefully said she was a virgin to control women and push subservience on them. Lots of other mistranslations were done to create the illusion that women were supposed to be subservient to men when it was not in the original texts.
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i don't like how this thread is titled; it's rude.

Those bishops ought to know that changing the word of God will get them into serious trouble one day with the Almighty.
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You will see. I am in the know. Your own Pope will allow the revelation soon that no where did it really say women were to be subservient to men. It also does mean Maiden in Hebrew, Virgin or untouched has a secondary word and different context to it..
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There is something about mary
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Re: New Bible translation pleases modern western teenage girls: "Mary was not a virgin"
Edward Cayce right again

he said Mary was one of 12 maidens
at the Essene School of Prophets at
Mt. Carmel.

These 12 Maidens were given to the
sect by their parents as future hosts
of the coming messiah.

One of the other 12 maidens became
the mother of John the Baptist.

The Essene sect was trying to manufacture
a messiah to oust the Pharisees in Jerusalem
who were Roman stooges and corrupt.

The Essenes practiced Baptism and communion
meals 200 yrs before Jesus and John the
Baptist were born. This pre-dates Jesus'
ministry by 200 yrs.

There were Essene communities in Qumran,
Emmaus and Mt. Carmel.

Mary and Elizabeth were Essene maidens
living in the Mt. Carmel School of
prophets run by a woman named Judy.

The Essenes from Qumran gave us the Dead Sea
Scrolls.

I would love to find the hidden scrolls
from the Mt. Carmel School of Prophets.

This is close to present day Haifa in Israel.

Pharisees from Jerusalem killed Essenes
for being what they were. Zacharias, father
of John the Baptist was murdered in the
Jerusalem Temple for proclaiming he was
an Essene after the birth of John the
Baptist.
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They would also have to make her a liar.

Then said Mary unto the angel, How shall this be, seeing I know not a man?
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i don't like how this thread is titled; it's rude.

Those bishops ought to know that changing the word of God will get them into serious trouble one day with the Almighty.
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but this has been done countless times..
How many feminists does it take to screw in a lightbulb? One. She stands there with the bulb in the socket and waits for the world to revolve around her.
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oh man they did this huh, wow all I can say is sh*t it has begun....no wonder it's so popular and gaining popularity there.They want it to. Can't you see, this totally rewrites Christianity. I mean seriously wtf young women? Then who was the father then if they changed that? This is the beginning of the end with the whole false prophets and such now.
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i don't like how this thread is titled; it's rude.

Those bishops ought to know that changing the word of God will get them into serious trouble one day with the Almighty.
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The word translated as virgin, does mean young maiden also.
The error is in the historical context. In that culture that term, meant an unmarried woman, even if betrothed, but sexually inactive, AKA a virgin.

The Jewish "marriage" custom was long, lasting up to several years, with several phases.
At one point the groom built a room onto the family home for him and his bride. Then once HIS Father agreed, that all preparations were complete, only then could he go get his bride. Then the Marriage ceremony and Supper took place,(the part we think of as "getting married", today) Consummation of the marriage was the final step.

Mary was with Child during the early stage of the "marriage ceremony" This betrothal stage, was still considered "married" as far as divorce and adultery charges were concerned.

Adultery being a death sentence and divorce and remarriage was not allowed, unlike today's standards.

Understanding the steps in the Jewish wedding ceremony is key to understanding the New testament and the Book of Revelation.
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it was always referring to the constellation Virgo the virgin, by changing the words they cover up tracks pertaining to astro theology.
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Edward Cayce right again

he said Mary was one of 12 maidens
at the Essene School of Prophets at
Mt. Carmel.

These 12 Maidens were given to the
sect by their parents as future hosts
of the coming messiah.

One of the other 12 maidens became
the mother of John the Baptist.

The Essene sect was trying to manufacture
a messiah to oust the Pharisees in Jerusalem
who were Roman stooges and corrupt.

The Essenes practiced Baptism and communion
meals 200 yrs before Jesus and John the
Baptist were born. This pre-dates Jesus'
ministry by 200 yrs.

There were Essene communities in Qumran,
Emmaus and Mt. Carmel.

Mary and Elizabeth were Essene maidens
living in the Mt. Carmel School of
prophets run by a woman named Judy.

The Essenes from Qumran gave us the Dead Sea
Scrolls.

I would love to find the hidden scrolls
from the Mt. Carmel School of Prophets.

This is close to present day Haifa in Israel.

Pharisees from Jerusalem killed Essenes
for being what they were. Zacharias, father
of John the Baptist was murdered in the
Jerusalem Temple for proclaiming he was
an Essene after the birth of John the
Baptist.
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Mary's testimony about her chastity to the angel should be accepted as truthful. The old testament scripture has another application.
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Re: New Bible translation pleases modern western teenage girls: "Mary was not a virgin"
Edward Cayce right again

he said Mary was one of 12 maidens
at the Essene School of Prophets at
Mt. Carmel.

These 12 Maidens were given to the
sect by their parents as future hosts
of the coming messiah.

One of the other 12 maidens became
the mother of John the Baptist.

The Essene sect was trying to manufacture
a messiah to oust the Pharisees in Jerusalem
who were Roman stooges and corrupt.

The Essenes practiced Baptism and communion
meals 200 yrs before Jesus and John the
Baptist were born. This pre-dates Jesus'
ministry by 200 yrs.

There were Essene communities in Qumran,
Emmaus and Mt. Carmel.

Mary and Elizabeth were Essene maidens
living in the Mt. Carmel School of
prophets run by a woman named Judy.

The Essenes from Qumran gave us the Dead Sea
Scrolls.

I would love to find the hidden scrolls
from the Mt. Carmel School of Prophets.

This is close to present day Haifa in Israel.

Pharisees from Jerusalem killed Essenes
for being what they were. Zacharias, father
of John the Baptist was murdered in the
Jerusalem Temple for proclaiming he was
an Essene after the birth of John the
Baptist.
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Mary's testimony about her chastity to the angel
should be accepted as truthful.
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or is it another mistranslation ??

does it really say she knows not a man ??

or does it translate to:

I am not married to a man ???
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Mary's testimony about her chastity to the angel
should be accepted as truthful.
 Quoting: Visitor 1354586


or is it another mistranslation ??

does it really say she knows not a man ??

or does it translate to:

I am not married to a man ???
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Study a reliable translation. Ask the Holy Spirit for knowledge and understanding of the word. You will discern the truth.

The new translations have an agenda for deception.
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Study a reliable translation. Ask the Holy Spirit for knowledge and understanding of the word. You will discern the truth.

The new translations have an agenda for deception.
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dude
we have been deceived for over
2,000 yrs

don't you think it's time to get
the story straight for a change ???

there are multiple factual sources
that prove the bible is wrong.

Edgar Cayce readings

Diary of Indian King who consulted with
Jesus in India after his supposed crucifixion.

An Indian coin found with image of Jesus
on it.

The lost tribe of Buni Israel in India
who claimed Jesus was a holy man after
his death in Jerusalem.

Inscription of Jesus's son Eli Kim found
on the Temple of Solomon in India from
54 AD.

The Rozabal Shrine in Srinagar contains
the remains of Jesus body to include
a marker with foot prints with nail
scars.

The Dead Sea scrolls placing John the Baptist
and Jesus in the Essene sect.

Witnesses claiming Jesus led 6 exoduses of
Jewish Tribes out of Palestine to settle
in Afghanistan, Pakistan, India, etc ...

yet you still believe a book written by
unknown authors over all this other
factual evidence ???
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Re: New Bible translation pleases modern western teenage girls: "Mary was not a virgin"
i don't like how this thread is titled; it's rude.

Those bishops ought to know that changing the word of God will get them into serious trouble one day with the Almighty.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 39801334


You will see. I am in the know. Your own Pope will allow the revelation soon that no where did it really say women were to be subservient to men. It also does mean Maiden in Hebrew, Virgin or untouched has a secondary word and different context to it..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41233119


In the 2000 odd years since the bibles creation, the book has been altered roughly 33 times, and every alteration has the originals BURNED by the current Pope at the time.

None of it has ever been true, past the original, but who can say.

Also Mary was only a virgin if you don't count anal :)
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Study a reliable translation. Ask the Holy Spirit for knowledge and understanding of the word. You will discern the truth.

The new translations have an agenda for deception.
 Quoting: Visitor 1354586


dude
we have been deceived for over
2,000 yrs

don't you think it's time to get
the story straight for a change ???

there are multiple factual sources
that prove the bible is wrong.

Edgar Cayce readings

Diary of Indian King who consulted with
Jesus in India after his supposed crucifixion.

An Indian coin found with image of Jesus
on it.

The lost tribe of Buni Israel in India
who claimed Jesus was a holy man after
his death in Jerusalem.

Inscription of Jesus's son Eli Kim found
on the Temple of Solomon in India from
54 AD.

The Rozabal Shrine in Srinagar contains
the remains of Jesus body to include
a marker with foot prints with nail
scars.

The Dead Sea scrolls placing John the Baptist
and Jesus in the Essene sect.

Witnesses claiming Jesus led 6 exoduses of
Jewish Tribes out of Palestine to settle
in Afghanistan, Pakistan, India, etc ...

yet you still believe a book written by
unknown authors over all this other
factual evidence ???
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8048540


I also forgot to mention
the Buddhist scrolls of the
Hemis Monastery in Tibet that
have Jesus' registration in
the school records when he was
14 yrs old.

If Jesus had God's knowledge from
the heavens, why did he need to go
to Hemis to study under monks ???
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There is something about mary
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Mary is still a virgin, and considered by Catholics to be a virgin, that one word in one passage is only for accuracy of interpretation.
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They would also have to make her a liar.

Then said Mary unto the angel, How shall this be, seeing I know not a man?
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Mary is still a virgin, and considered by Catholics to be a virgin, that one word in one passage is only for accuracy of interpretation.
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this all goes back to the Essene School
of Prophets at Mt. Carmel.

They prided themselves on graduating
Jewish prophets. Prophet Elijah
founded that school in Mt. Carmel.
Prophets like Elisha and Samuel
came from that same school.

And the only way their prophecies were to
come true is if the very same school
produced a messiah that was described
by their prophets.

It lended credence and credibility to
the school and the Essene sect to have
the messiah born unto them.

Even if they had to manufacture a messiah.
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They would also have to make her a liar.

Then said Mary unto the angel, How shall this be, seeing I know not a man?
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kitty Truth
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and you know this to be truth HOW ???

where you there ???

or did you read it in a gospel
with an unknown author ???
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Released in October 2011 by the Norwegian Bible Society, the new translation replaces a 1978 edition, with the goal of improving readability and accuracy. For example, in the older version, Mary was called a “virgin.” In the new translation she is referred to instead as a “young” woman. The U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops also made this change in its latest Bible translation from 2011, saying the change didn’t alter teaching about Mary, but was meant to address the possible different meanings of the Hebrew word “almah” in the text.

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I can't wait to hear how the Hebrew word "almah" made it into the Greek wording of the annunciation story.
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I can't wait to hear how the Hebrew word "almah" made it into the Greek wording of the annunciation story.
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Flavius Josephus (Jewish stooge for Rome)

the very same Josephus that burned the
Jewish Library in the Jerusalem Temple
in 70 AD to cover up the deception.

the library in Alexandria Egypt was
also burned by the Romans for the same
reason.
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Mary is still a virgin, and considered by Catholics to be a virgin, that one word in one passage is only for accuracy of interpretation.
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this all goes back to the Essene School
of Prophets at Mt. Carmel.

They prided themselves on graduating
Jewish prophets. Prophet Elijah
founded that school in Mt. Carmel.
Prophets like Elisha and Samuel
came from that same school.

And the only way their prophecies were to
come true is if the very same school
produced a messiah that was described
by their prophets.

It lended credence and credibility to
the school and the Essene sect to have
the messiah born unto them.

Even if they had to manufacture a messiah.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8048540



Not sure how this relates to Mary's virginity, but
I don't believe Jesus was schooled there.
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Mary is still a virgin, and considered by Catholics to be a virgin, that one word in one passage is only for accuracy of interpretation.
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this all goes back to the Essene School
of Prophets at Mt. Carmel.

They prided themselves on graduating
Jewish prophets. Prophet Elijah
founded that school in Mt. Carmel.
Prophets like Elisha and Samuel
came from that same school.

And the only way their prophecies were to
come true is if the very same school
produced a messiah that was described
by their prophets.

It lended credence and credibility to
the school and the Essene sect to have
the messiah born unto them.

Even if they had to manufacture a messiah.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8048540



Not sure how this relates to Mary's virginity, but
I don't believe Jesus was schooled there.
 Quoting: K.Kool


Agreed. "Jesus was an Essene" has been pretty soundly debunked.
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Agreed. "Jesus was an Essene" has been pretty soundly debunked.
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debunked by whom ???
links
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Agreed. "Jesus was an Essene" has been pretty soundly debunked.
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debunked by whom ???
links
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From one of the most respected living NT scholars:

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