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Pigeon Peas-a prolific and versatile food crop!! and like Moringa, will be vital in the near future!

 
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Florida cranberry a.k.a. Jamacian sorrel.
I started some of these seeds a little late as I just discovered it. Has anyone tried this plant?
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What a beautiful flower and the fruit ..never seen this before, where can I find a couple of seeds?
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[link to lakeland.craigslist.org]

This is where I got mine. I contacted him then sent a money order. The seeds came within a reasonable amount of time. The seeds sprouted quickly and are growing great but still to young to flower. The leaves have a nice lemon flavor. He has rare interesting seeds and he has added a few since I last checked.
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Here is another great plant. It requires similar growing conditions to corn.
[link to www.rareseeds.com]

Chuffa, its like a grass that gets tasty little grape sized roots. they taste a bit like coconut, or like sweet corn if you blanch them. They grow fast and are great for chickens and other animals to eat too.
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Here is another great plant. It requires similar growing conditions to corn.
[link to www.rareseeds.com]

Chuffa, its like a grass that gets tasty little grape sized roots. they taste a bit like coconut, or like sweet corn if you blanch them. They grow fast and are great for chickens and other animals to eat too.
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it's impressive that there are so many wonderfull importante things that we just don't know!
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Here is another great plant. It requires similar growing conditions to corn.
[link to www.rareseeds.com]

Chuffa, its like a grass that gets tasty little grape sized roots. they taste a bit like coconut, or like sweet corn if you blanch them. They grow fast and are great for chickens and other animals to eat too.
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it's impressive that there are so many wonderfull importante things that we just don't know!
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Yes it is impressive. I have learned so much since the Moringa thread. Actually since coming to GLP. Then again on wider scale, the Internet. I remember how I used to love going to the library when I had an interest in a subject. I would devote half a day to get there then search the shelves, then check out books, take them home and scour the pages. I still love the library but now we have information at our fingertips. It is an exciting time to be alive.
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Here is another great plant. It requires similar growing conditions to corn.
[link to www.rareseeds.com]

Chuffa, its like a grass that gets tasty little grape sized roots. they taste a bit like coconut, or like sweet corn if you blanch them. They grow fast and are great for chickens and other animals to eat too.
 Quoting: lionhound


it's impressive that there are so many wonderfull importante things that we just don't know!
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Yes it is impressive. I have learned so much since the Moringa thread. Actually since coming to GLP. Then again on wider scale, the Internet. I remember how I used to love going to the library when I had an interest in a subject. I would devote half a day to get there then search the shelves, then check out books, take them home and scour the pages. I still love the library but now we have information at our fingertips. It is an exciting time to be alive.
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yes and learn with each other! grouphug
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great fruit album: [link to www.flickr.com]
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great fruit album: [link to www.flickr.com]
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I can't believe it! lol. I thought we had seen it all but that is some seriously different fruit. I only recognized a few. Tonight I will look up a few of those to see if any are particularly tasty or easy to grow here.
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tropical fruit forum: [link to tropicalfruitforum.com]
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I can't remember if I posted in this thread already to say thanks for all the great info! TBH, I thought black eyed peas WERE pigeon peas; I guess they are just similar. Also had never heard of moringa.
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on pigeon peas: [link to tropicalvegetableforum.com]
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Lionhound and Luisport you're both seriously taking me back in time.

I lived in Puerto Rico for about 5 years when I was a kid. My mother loved growing gandules among other things like avacado, breadfruit, tamarind, and others.

Even more exciting was that we had a large property and over half of it was in it's natural state. We didn't have to do anything to the property and we could walk into the woods and come home with a bunch of bananas, coconuts, mangoes,and best of all quenepas. Quenepas are also known as genips, mamon, and momoncillos in other countries. I absolutely loved these.

I always joked around with my brothers that it was impossible to die of starvation in Puerto Rico. We still have the property but sadly it isn't a realistic bug out spot since I've been back in the states for over 30 years.

Anyway Gandules are a staple in Puerto Rico. I'd be willing to bet that 99.9% of Puerto Ricans, even in the states go nuts just thinking about arroz con gandules.
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Lionhound and Luisport you're both seriously taking me back in time.

I lived in Puerto Rico for about 5 years when I was a kid. My mother loved growing gandules among other things like avacado, breadfruit, tamarind, and others.

Even more exciting was that we had a large property and over half of it was in it's natural state. We didn't have to do anything to the property and we could walk into the woods and come home with a bunch of bananas, coconuts, mangoes,and best of all quenepas. Quenepas are also known as genips, mamon, and momoncillos in other countries. I absolutely loved these.

I always joked around with my brothers that it was impossible to die of starvation in Puerto Rico. We still have the property but sadly it isn't a realistic bug out spot since I've been back in the states for over 30 years.

Anyway Gandules are a staple in Puerto Rico. I'd be willing to bet that 99.9% of Puerto Ricans, even in thatthe states go nuts just thinking about arroz con gandules.
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What wonderful memories. That's how i imagine life should be.

It's stories like yours that encourages me to keep trying new things. If everyone would plant a little something the world would be a better place. Thank you for commenting.hf
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You must have psychic powers. I have been so mango crazy and today when we went to the plant nursery, i picked out a huge lancetilla mango for the kids to buy me for my birthday. No point beating around the bush. Also i have Doc Nam Mai and Mallika. too young to.fruit. Maybe next year. What are yours and are they fruiting?
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You must have psychic powers. I have been so mango crazy and today when we went to the plant nursery, i picked out a huge lancetilla mango for the kids to buy me for my birthday. No point beating around the bush. Also i have Doc Nam Mai and Mallika. too young to.fruit. Maybe next year. What are yours and are they fruiting?
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Hi Valerie, all this worderfull life stories are just great! All this memories are very importante to stand us in hard times! My 2 mango trees are kent and osteen. Here we don't see those varieties you and vídeo talk
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You must have psychic powers. I have been so mango crazy and today when we went to the plant nursery, i picked out a huge lancetilla mango for the kids to buy me for my birthday. No point beating around the bush. Also i have Doc Nam Mai and Mallika. too young to.fruit. Maybe next year. What are yours and are they fruiting?
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Hi Valerie, all this worderfull life stories are just great! All this memories are very importante to stand us in hard times! My 2 mango trees are kent and osteen. Here we don't see those varieties you and vídeo talk
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Osteen is very colorful. It originated not far from here. I heard Kent is excellent.

Doc Nam Mai is an ancient cultivar from Thailand and produces true from seed. I bought this for my nieces who live with me and are part Thai.plus we will plant the seeds so the girls can have a tree for their yard one day or more importantly, in case of global disruption

Mallika is a container mango. I will bring it inside during cold snaps.

Lancetilla grows huge 4-5 pound fruits the size of a mans head. One fruit can feed a family! It has a nice pineapple flavor.

All three are fiberless with delicious melting flesh.
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WOW you know a lot about mangoes!!! tounge

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WOW you know a lot about mangoes!!! tounge
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lol. Not really. There are so many mango trees for sale right now and i have seen alot of tags. I looked them up before i bought. I had to look up osteen last night. It has a very nice color. I think my choices lack color. I may have to get one more mango tree for that.
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[link to tropicalfruitforum.com]

There is a lady here that cuts her mango trees down to trunk only after a freeze. She calls it pugging. See her results and view pictures.

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There is a lady here that cuts her mango trees down to trunk only after a freeze. She calls it pugging. See her results and view pictures.
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WOW it's impressive... but not for all trees... for exemple my lychees won't resist i think.
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Ten Easy Steps to the Perfect Home Garden Mango

1. Choose a healthy tree: A 2-gal container is a good size. A small tree will establish quicker and grow better roots to resist hurricanes.

2. Planting the tree: Select an area where the tree gets sufficient sunlight for good production.

3. Water the tree until established –1 to 3 months. Do not irrigate after establishment –as irrigation will increase disease and lower fruit quality.

4. Fertilize lightly with low analysis fertilizers. We recommend that no nitrogen fertilizers be applied. Fertilize when your tree is active. Do not fertilize during the winter time. We use a 0-0-50 formulation, sprinkled lightly below the drip-line of the canopy three times per year. Fertilize 3 times per year with foliar micronutrients that include magnesium, zinc, and manganese.

5. Tipping: Begin tipping in the first year and continue for the life of the tree. Trees should be tipped every 20 inches.

[link to www.fairchildgarden.org]
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6. Prune trees for size control after harvest each year. Pruningmaintains the health, productivity and size of the trees. After harvest the trees are pruned by hand and the branches, twigs and leaves mulched in place or ground up for use as mulch in other locations.

7. Annually thin major limbs within the canopy to improve fruit color, disease and production.
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8. Identify insects first. Insectsare presumed innocent until proven guilty of damage. Most are not damaging. Pesticides should be the final option.

9. Weeds are allowed to provide a nectar source for bees, flies and wasps during the spring flowering season. Weed control through mulching and shading by the trees themselves.

10. Harvest fruit when mature on the tree and store for proper ripening. Because mangos come in a rainbow of reds, yellows, oranges, and greens, color is not the best way to determine ripeness. Selecting the proper ripeness of the fruit is best done with your hands or with your nose, with a gentle give and fruity aroma betraying the heaven that waits inside. As to ripening, it is Mother Nature that knows best, providing a warm room temperature for the perfect conversion of starch to sugar. A good way to judging maturity is to cut across the fruit and determine the amount of yellowing in the flesh. A fruit with only slight yellowing around the seed will need 2 weeks more to ripe, while a fruit with yellowing half of the distance from the seed to the skin requieres 1 week. Fruit can be harvest in this moment and store at room temperature. Dont pick fruit when still has green flesh.
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i think i whatering my mangoes too much... but our weather is not like Florida... no rain now!
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There is a lady here that cuts her mango trees down to trunk only after a freeze. She calls it pugging. See her results and view pictures.
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WOW it's impressive... but not for all trees... for exemple my lychees won't resist i think.
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Yes I agree not for all trees. I'm glad to see that mangoes might be saved after cold damage tho. She and I are in the same area.

They do it here in Florida with citrus after a big freeze. They call it buckhorning.
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There is a lady here that cuts her mango trees down to trunk only after a freeze. She calls it pugging. See her results and view pictures.
 Quoting: lionhound


WOW it's impressive... but not for all trees... for exemple my lychees won't resist i think.
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Yes I agree not for all trees. I'm glad to see that mangoes might be saved after cold damage tho. She and I are in the same area.

They do it here in Florida with citrus after a big freeze. They call it buckhorning.
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really? My Orange trees never ever burn on freeze... maby i start with some hope now... tounge
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i think i whatering my mangoes too much... but our weather is not like Florida... no rain now!
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They are supposed to dry out., then water. Hot, dry, sandy are conditions they prefer but fruiting time they need more water I think. They even like being a little root bound in containers.
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There is a lady here that cuts her mango trees down to trunk only after a freeze. She calls it pugging. See her results and view pictures.
 Quoting: lionhound


WOW it's impressive... but not for all trees... for exemple my lychees won't resist i think.
 Quoting: Luisport


Yes I agree not for all trees. I'm glad to see that mangoes might be saved after cold damage tho. She and I are in the same area.

They do it here in Florida with citrus after a big freeze. They call it buckhorning.
 Quoting: lionhound


really? My Orange trees never ever burn on freeze... maby i start with some hope now... tounge
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We have not had a freeze like that in a while but I have seen it done. If you don't get cold enough for your citrus to have damage, you will do great with pigeon peas and Florida cranberry. And better with mangoes than me. That's ok. I will just work extra hard for my mangoes.
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i think i whatering my mangoes too much... but our weather is not like Florida... no rain now!
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They are supposed to dry out., then water. Hot, dry, sandy are conditions they prefer but fruiting time they need more water I think. They even like being a little root bound in containers.
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yep i have to learn with experience...
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and what is this one katuk? [link to tropicalvegetableforum.com]

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