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Obama's worst nightmare, I just found my next Internet service and telephone provider...
Step aside, AT&T and Verizon. A new privacy-protecting Internet service and telephone provider still in the planning stages could become the ACLU's dream and the FBI's worst nightmare.

by Declan McCullagh April 11, 2012 4:00 AM PDT

Nicholas Merrill is planning to revolutionize online privacy with a concept as simple as it is ingenious: a telecommunications provider designed from its inception to shield its customers from surveillance.

Merrill, 39, who previously ran a New York-based Internet provider, told CNET that he's raising funds to launch a national "non-profit telecommunications provider dedicated to privacy, using ubiquitous encryption" that will sell mobile phone service, for as little as $20 a month, and Internet connectivity.

The ISP would not merely employ every technological means at its disposal, including encryption and limited logging, to protect its customers. It would also -- and in practice this is likely more important -- challenge government surveillance demands of dubious legality or constitutionality.

A decade of revelations has underlined the intimate relationship between many telecommunications companies and Washington officialdom. Leading providers including AT&T and Verizon handed billions of customer telephone records to the National Security Agency; only Qwest refused to participate. Verizon turned over customer data to the FBI without court orders. An AT&T whistleblower accused the company of illegally opening its network to the NSA, a practice that the U.S. Congress retroactively made legal in 2008.

By contrast, Merrill says his ISP, to be run by a non-profit called the Calyx Institute with for-profit subsidiaries, will put customers first. "Calyx will use all legal and technical means available to protect the privacy and integrity of user data," he says.

Merrill is in the unique position of being the first ISP exec to fight back against the Patriot Act's expanded police powers -- and win.

In February 2004, the FBI sent Merrill a secret "national security letter" (not an actual court order signed by a judge) asking for confidential information about his customers and forbidding him from disclosing the letter's existence. He enlisted the ACLU to fight the gag order, and won. A federal judge barred the FBI from invoking that portion of the law, ruling it was "an "unconstitutional prior restraint of speech in violation of the First Amendment."

Merrill's identity was kept confidential for years as the litigation continued. In 2007, the Washington Post published his anonymous op-ed which said: "I resent being conscripted as a secret informer for the government," especially because "I have doubts about the legitimacy of the underlying investigation." He wasn't able to discuss his case publicly until 2010.

His recipe for Calyx was inspired by those six years of interminable legal wrangling with the Feds: Take wireless service like that offered by Clear, which began selling 4G WiMAX broadband in 2009. Inject end-to-end encryption for Web browsing. Add e-mail that's stored in encrypted form, so even Calyx can't read it after it arrives. Wrap all of this up into an easy-to-use package and sell it for competitive prices, ideally around $20 a month without data caps, though perhaps prepaid for a full year.

"The idea that we are working on is to not be capable of complying" with requests from the FBI for stored e-mail and similar demands, Merrill says.

A 1994 federal law called the Communications Assistance for Law Enforcement Act was highly controversial when it was enacted because it required telecommunications carriers to configure their networks for easy wiretappability by the FBI. But even CALEA says that ISPs "shall not be responsible for decrypting" communications if they don't possess "the information necessary to decrypt."

Translation: make sure your customers own their data and only they can decrypt it.
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Ok, where do i sign up?
sounds great to me...
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Morning Bump :)

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Thread: Obama Deception : Obama Shamelessly Defended NSA Surveillance Programs
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Anything in life worth doing is worth overdoing. Moderation's for cowards.
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yea ill sign up too.
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Sounds to good to be true. Besides this could be the next phase of deceit to get us all connected directly to the machine doing the surveillance. Call me a skeptic, but these leaks may have all been planned to march us right to the "secure" connectivity.
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Question is, does he have balls of steel or just big ideas. He will face the big boys by demand and have to make some very careful decisions. The truth is if he doesn't retreat by threat, he will be forced out. Good to see people try but I don't see this lasting. Everyone has secrets, family or debt. That's their handicap.
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Could it really work for a longer Time?
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Sorry NSA controls Level 3 communications... in other words they own the signal... the minute it leaves your phone or computer... they have it...
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Car accident target. verysad
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Sounds to good to be true. Besides this could be the next phase of deceit to get us all connected directly to the machine doing the surveillance. Call me a skeptic, but these leaks may have all been planned to march us right to the "secure" connectivity.
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I get your point but do not think it is THAT direct.

I do not believe this leak was planned but do expect the response to include co - option of any FEASIBLE (read FINANCIALLY backed) alternatives who advertise themselves as being free of or substantially reduced GOVT MONITORING.
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Question is, does he have balls of steel or just big ideas. He will face the big boys by demand and have to make some very careful decisions. The truth is if he doesn't retreat by threat, he will be forced out. Good to see people try but I don't see this lasting. Everyone has secrets, family or debt. That's their handicap.
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I agree with you. Unfortunately he'll be forced one way or another he will be forced out. I would hope not but we know how it goes by now.
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if you build it, I will come
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comon people dont fall for this.... the govt wont let some random cracka decide whats best obviously this is a decoy isp that either will spy on you right away or once most people have signed up... b realistic guys in todays world you cant just do things that are right or else you will commit suicide
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Sounds to good to be true. Besides this could be the next phase of deceit to get us all connected directly to the machine doing the surveillance. Call me a skeptic, but these leaks may have all been planned to march us right to the "secure" connectivity.
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Exactly.
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Sounds to good to be true. Besides this could be the next phase of deceit to get us all connected directly to the machine doing the surveillance. Call me a skeptic, but these leaks may have all been planned to march us right to the "secure" connectivity.
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It is possibly a test to see how much the public will put up with. if i were a gambling man I'd bet the public gets upset for about a week then rolls over and goes back to sleep giving a big fat green light for all NSA ,DHS, CIA etc.. traitors to spy on us. On the other hand listening to the interview with whistleblower Snowden or whatever his name is sounded pretty convincing and seems like he truly knew what he was getting into and wanted all this to come out. Bringing us to the next question why is the mainstream reporting on it. countless whistleblowers have come and gone without a peep from the MSM. why this why now?
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I've got nothing I need to hide, but I would still sign up for a service like that, because I've had enough of power hungry government agencies and their desperate data grabbing, plus the deceitful nature in which they collect data.
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I've got nothing I need to hide, but I would still sign up for a service like that, because I've had enough of power hungry government agencies and their desperate data grabbing, plus the deceitful nature in which they collect data.
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exactly , it is not just a way of protecting yourself it also sends a message that you do not want to be spied on. if enough of us use a safe system like this it becomes a message of political dissent.
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Sorry NSA controls Level 3 communications... in other words they own the signal... the minute it leaves your phone or computer... they have it...
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can the signal be encrypted so they cannot read it?
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Sorry NSA controls Level 3 communications... in other words they own the signal... the minute it leaves your phone or computer... they have it...
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can the signal be encrypted so they cannot read it?
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yes but nsa gets all encryption key codes its federal law
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Where do I sign?
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Sorry NSA controls Level 3 communications... in other words they own the signal... the minute it leaves your phone or computer... they have it...
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This


Actually the own it at layer 2
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SILLY RABBIT...IT'S A TRAP!
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a version of this organisation should exist in every country.
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Sorry NSA controls Level 3 communications... in other words they own the signal... the minute it leaves your phone or computer... they have it...
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can the signal be encrypted so they cannot read it?
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yes but nsa gets all encryption key codes its federal law
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Lol you obviously have no clue how encryption works! When the customer has his own unique self created key having the RSA does absolutely no good lmfao! Sure they could take a KRAY7 and spend 2 weeks decrypting EACH customer but that would be futile at best.
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This is the sad future of the internet. "International waters" of privacy.
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SILLY RABBIT...IT'S A TRAP!
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Wanna bet this is funded through some shell corporation, the money coming straight from the NSA's little slushfund.

I wouldn't be surprised if they call the fund the "trojan fund" either.
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This sounds great. For that price I'd get it alongside my regular internet to try it out.

[link to www.calyx.net]
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Sorry NSA controls Level 3 communications... in other words they own the signal... the minute it leaves your phone or computer... they have it...
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can the signal be encrypted so they cannot read it?
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yes but nsa gets all encryption key codes its federal law
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you dont know much about the tubes.


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