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What We Don't Know About Spying on Citizens: Scarier Than What We Know

 
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What We Don't Know About Spying on Citizens: Scarier Than What We Know
" The NSA's surveillance of cell-phone calls show how badly we need to protect the whistle-blowers who provide transparency and accountability.

Yesterday, we learned that the NSA received all calling records from Verizon customers for a three-month period starting in April. That's everything except the voice content: who called who, where they were, how long the call lasted -- for millions of people, both Americans and foreigners. This "metadata" allows the government to track the movements of everyone during that period, and a build a detailed picture of who talks to whom. It's exactly the same data the Justice Department collected about AP journalists.

The Guardian delivered this revelation after receiving a copy of a secret memo about this -- presumably from a whistle-blower. We don't know if the other phone companies handed data to the NSA too. We don't know if this was a one-off demand or a continuously renewed demand; the order started a few days after the Boston bombers were captured by police.

We don't know a lot about how the government spies on us, but we know some things. We know the FBI has issued tens of thousands of ultra-secret National Security Letters to collect all sorts of data on people -- we believe on millions of people -- and has been abusing them to spy on cloud-computer users. We know it can collect a wide array of personal data from the Internet without a warrant. We also know that the FBI has been intercepting cell-phone data, all but voice content, for the past 20 years without a warrant, and can use the microphone on some powered-off cell phones as a room bug -- presumably only with a warrant."

[link to www.theatlantic.com]
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yeah ok, everything but voice content, so the computers print the spoken word so they can read it, the chances of the conversation being recorded is at 100 percent, does anybody believe them
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if anyone believes they don't monitor the "voice content" aka what you are saying (or read what you are typing) - then you are an idiot. It is probably far more extensive than even that.

They are now trying to use the Boston Bombing as an excuse why they "began" collecting this data. Which makes zero sense because they knew who they were claiming were the bombers. Names, address, phone - they could have monitored them and who they talk to - but it doesn't justify monitoring millions of Americans.
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06/11/2013 06:56 PM
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The government does not need to know more about what we are doing. We need to know more about what the government is doing. We need to turn the cameras on the police and on the government, not the other way around.

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