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You know, I was thinking just today that it's got to be hard on women now a days.

I mean there isn't a woman I know that doesn't have the "sweep me off my feet Prince Charming" fantasy, and the guys today just aren't man enough to do it. Most of them have been so pussified it's unbelievable to me.

Now I'm not trying to brag here, but I'm pretty much what you'd consider an "Alpha Male". I'm a big guy and I'm old school. That's why I've been happily married for 25 years.

I know that women love with their ears. They want to be admired and complimented and most of all paid attention to.
But I just can't see any qualities in younger guys today that are even remotely capable of addressing those needs.

In a way, it feels pretty good to be the last of a dying breed. In another way, I feel bad for the women.
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Those needs are BS. Life isn't a fairytale.
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That and those "quality in younger men" is mostly earning more money than she does. There simply aren't enough young men out there earning a sufficient income due to:
1. The economy and high unemployment and underemployment rate.
2. Women competing with men in the workforce.
3. Cost of living. Multiple incomes required to purchase a house and start a family.

Now I'm sure I left a lot out, but that was just what I see right off the bat.
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It's not just "these days".

And what the hell is wrong with sex?
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...very concerned with a woman's looks. just want to "get their dick wet," and whatever else crap they say.

these men don't know how to make love to a woman. they are little boys in adult bodies and make fools of themselves with their lack of control. they cannot keep their eyes to themselves and disrespect any woman they are in a relationship with by checking out other women....even in front of their gf / wife. total creeps.

can't blame biology. it's about control and how one is raised. bc women also have a strong sex drive and could be checking out packages, asses, chests, arms, etc. all day long too, but most of us see people as people and stay loyal and faithful to the person we are in a relationship with...

men also cause women to behave in increasingly outlandish ways to get their attention....thus the whorish girls kissing one another bc they think they need to do this to get/keep a man's interest bc of some men's weird fetish regarding female homosexual choosing acts.

hey men! a real normal decent woman would never engage in these abominations. if a woman told you she wanted to see you in some male on male homosexual choosing action would you do it? only if you are fucked in the head. same with women.

ugh. i don't think there's a decent man left in this world.
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they're retards. just ignore them.
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It's not just "these days".

And what the hell is wrong with sex?
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according to the feminist horseshit we were forced to learn as kids ( sense as early as the 1970s) sex with a women even consensual is the equal to rape.


Im not joking, read the SCUM manifesto, or any of the books wrote by the idiots who helped make feminism mainstream.

women may not realize it today, but by saying "Not all women are like that" then subscribing to feminism afterwords (feminists action speak far louder than their words) you will see women are the ultimate hypocrites
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It's not just "these days".

And what the hell is wrong with sex?
 Quoting: Occams Taser


according to the feminist horseshit we were forced to learn as kids ( sense as early as the 1970s) sex with a women even consensual is the equal to rape.


Im not joking, read the SCUM manifesto, or any of the books wrote by the idiots who helped make feminism mainstream.

women may not realize it today, but by saying "Not all women are like that" then subscribing to feminism afterwords (feminists action speak far louder than their words) you will see women are the ultimate hypocrites
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Oh yes, I know. Which is why I asked what I asked.
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So many butthurt guys its just laughable. I just have to agree with the OP and RPMcmurphy. Today men are so much castrated so much pussyfied that its beyond belief...almost every friend I know WOULDNT even approach woman they like, instead they will write trough dating sites like pussies, but thats only good, it is more easier for normal guys. And in reality its not a big deal, so stop living in your fairytales where women are evil because they do all the dirty work to actually date you. No wonder there are so many lesbians...actually women are more masculine then men nowadays its just so sad and for the record woman wants a man. Your definition of prince perfect is in reality a man, is really sweeping women of her feet that hard? In reality not, its not THAT HARD, you just have to think and do, but thats superpower in todays world.
To make it easier for your head, women is like a car, if you take good care of it then she will show you the ride of your life. But many "men" dont even know how to take care of a woman...luckily I was raised old school and have a brain instead of vacuum. And if you start with the "nice" guys crap, then well let me tell you something...truly genuine nice guys do get the women ALOT, you are just asslicking, disgusting and lame...no one likes asslickers maybe in those minds you think you are nice, but in reality you are just disgusting asslicker, seen it too many times.
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So many butthurt guys its just laughable. I just have to agree with the OP and RPMcmurphy. Today men are so much castrated so much pussyfied that its beyond belief...almost every friend I know WOULDNT even approach woman they like, instead they will write trough dating sites like pussies, but thats only good, it is more easier for normal guys. And in reality its not a big deal, so stop living in your fairytales where women are evil because they do all the dirty work to actually date you. No wonder there are so many lesbians...actually women are more masculine then men nowadays its just so sad and for the record woman wants a man. Your definition of prince perfect is in reality a man, is really sweeping women of her feet that hard? In reality not, its not THAT HARD, you just have to think and do, but thats superpower in todays world.
To make it easier for your head, women is like a car, if you take good care of it then she will show you the ride of your life. But many "men" dont even know how to take care of a woman...luckily I was raised old school and have a brain instead of vacuum. And if you start with the "nice" guys crap, then well let me tell you something...truly genuine nice guys do get the women ALOT, you are just asslicking, disgusting and lame...no one likes asslickers maybe in those minds you think you are nice, but in reality you are just disgusting asslicker, seen it too many times.
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Slovakia has women?!
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So many butthurt guys its just laughable. I just have to agree with the OP and RPMcmurphy. Today men are so much castrated so much pussyfied that its beyond belief...almost every friend I know WOULDNT even approach woman they like, instead they will write trough dating sites like pussies, but thats only good, it is more easier for normal guys. And in reality its not a big deal, so stop living in your fairytales where women are evil because they do all the dirty work to actually date you. No wonder there are so many lesbians...actually women are more masculine then men nowadays its just so sad and for the record woman wants a man. Your definition of prince perfect is in reality a man, is really sweeping women of her feet that hard? In reality not, its not THAT HARD, you just have to think and do, but thats superpower in todays world.
To make it easier for your head, women is like a car, if you take good care of it then she will show you the ride of your life. But many "men" dont even know how to take care of a woman...luckily I was raised old school and have a brain instead of vacuum. And if you start with the "nice" guys crap, then well let me tell you something...truly genuine nice guys do get the women ALOT, you are just asslicking, disgusting and lame...no one likes asslickers maybe in those minds you think you are nice, but in reality you are just disgusting asslicker, seen it too many times.
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This my friends right here is the hypocrisy i spoke of. Notice no self responsibility along with multiple character attacks used in place of a logical argument.

Worst part is, not only does this post show the hypocricy of women, it also shows the "wanting ones cake and eating it to" all to perfectly.
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Sounds like OP has been dating too many african and is crying the blues over it. No sympathy from me. Enjoy.
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Well, not that I condone or participate in the behavior you've described (nor is this my defending it) I would like to try to share my take on it, afterall you asked. I do not claim that this is spot on truth or fact, just merely my views on the question posed and my observations of the modern society we've found ourselves.

You have to look at it from the perspective of the young man to really start to get a handle on it, I think.

For at least 2 generations, young men have been told repeatedly that women don't need them for anything. In past generations a man could feel like a man by simply being a good husband and father and holding down a job. These days, every fem-nazi screams how they don't need men for anything to anyone that will listen to them. To make matters worse, when this is stated before an audience, they are greeted with applause and comments of, "She's such a strong woman!" and such.

There are no "man jobs" any longer. Women have invaded EVERY position where a man could use his career to feel more like a man. Including police, fire department and military.

So, here they are with nothing to cement their masculine identity ... can't focus on career, can't focus on family because neither are respected any longer. Not to mention the double standards. "What double standards?!?" you might ask? Well, for example; If a woman does not work, stays home and cares for the children while the man works, she's "noble" and "doing the hardest job in existence", yet if a man is the homemaker and the wife works, then HE is a "lazy bum". How is it when a woman does it, it's "such a hard job!" but for the man, it's "laziness"? Double standards.

This lays the groundwork for the mentality. Then factor in that more than half of marriages end up in divorce, followed by 2 decades of their adult life draining a substantial portion their income for child support and alimony. Why would a young man even want to take the risk? There is no gain, at least from a societal view, anyway. I mean, let's be real here, were it not for child support and alimony, women would be more inclined to stick it out and honor the vows they made. Since they can still take half his income if things aren't as perfect as she'd like, what does she have to lose by taking the easy path and just walking away from the marriage when things start to require effort? (but they don't need men for anything, right? So, why is it so important for them to suck the man's income dry for 2 decades if the man is so unneeded? Seems no one really considers this.)

There is nothing left for a young man to cling to to become a man other than risk, pain and loss ... is it really any wonder why they don't want to grow up? Then factor in that there seems to be an endless supply of easy sex, allowing them to still fill the basic primal urge that would at least cause a physiological push to seek and maintain a family.


So, here we are with no physical incentive, no psychological incentive and nothing but risk of serious loss.

Why would these young men today even bother?


Now as a disclaimer, I'm not young any longer and was raised with some seriously old school values when it comes to monogamy and family. So, these are not my own personal insights based on my own experiences, merely observations of the world my now young adult son is being forced to make his way into.

I pity this generation, I really do.

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Because that is all they are really worth to be honest. If they actually deserved respect and to be treated like human beings than they would be. Women have really brought their own treatment upon themselves and truly do deserve all the treatment they are getting. Bed, Made, Lie.
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Haven't had my coffee yet so I hope I make sense here.

OP, I've seen more loyal, caring, sweet, sexy, loving guys "these days" than ever before. I promise you, they are out there! It's just a sexual world out there, we girls just have to avoid the tramp tats, have a sense of humor and demure, mysterious flirtation.
Maybe human nature flip flops on itself every so often, but for this time on the calendar is how I see it. Is it a reaction to women's attitudes in one era to the next and visa versa? No, I think it's deeper than that.
It wasn't too long ago that "most" guys could care less about more than his O in the bed, didn't communicate what they wanted in their relationship, and didn't fully appreciate the opposite sex for all she's worth.
Keep your eyes open because they're out there! Even look on some of the threads around here to see the guys' attitudes for the better - although some have to put up a wall to hide their hurt. I honestly believe confused women outnumber the guys who know what they want. But in several years, we may see another flip flop in human nature of the sexes and not for the better!
So chin up ;-)
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So many butthurt guys its just laughable. I just have to agree with the OP and RPMcmurphy. Today men are so much castrated so much pussyfied that its beyond belief...almost every friend I know WOULDNT even approach woman they like, instead they will write trough dating sites like pussies, but thats only good, it is more easier for normal guys. And in reality its not a big deal, so stop living in your fairytales where women are evil because they do all the dirty work to actually date you. No wonder there are so many lesbians...actually women are more masculine then men nowadays its just so sad and for the record woman wants a man. Your definition of prince perfect is in reality a man, is really sweeping women of her feet that hard? In reality not, its not THAT HARD, you just have to think and do, but thats superpower in todays world.
To make it easier for your head, women is like a car, if you take good care of it then she will show you the ride of your life. But many "men" dont even know how to take care of a woman...luckily I was raised old school and have a brain instead of vacuum. And if you start with the "nice" guys crap, then well let me tell you something...truly genuine nice guys do get the women ALOT, you are just asslicking, disgusting and lame...no one likes asslickers maybe in those minds you think you are nice, but in reality you are just disgusting asslicker, seen it too many times.
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Slovakia has women?!
 Quoting: Occams Taser


They used to have some at least, google managed to find these two:

[link to www.hud.ac.uk]
[link to stevesascodesigns.com (secure)]

But they are both in the UK now. I'm not sure if there are any left in Slovakia.
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If you don't get laid your a virgin-queer is the law.
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What is up with women these days? So selfish and Misogynistic, always only interested in how they look and expensive clothes. They alkways pretend to be weak and let men do everything and expect to be treated as a queen.

As you see, generalizations are easy.
They are seldom really true though...
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Well, not that I condone or participate in the behavior you've described (nor is this my defending it) I would like to try to share my take on it, afterall you asked. I do not claim that this is spot on truth or fact, just merely my views on the question posed and my observations of the modern society we've found ourselves.

You have to look at it from the perspective of the young man to really start to get a handle on it, I think.

For at least 2 generations, young men have been told repeatedly that women don't need them for anything. In past generations a man could feel like a man by simply being a good husband and father and holding down a job. These days, every fem-nazi screams how they don't need men for anything to anyone that will listen to them. To make matters worse, when this is stated before an audience, they are greeted with applause and comments of, "She's such a strong woman!" and such.

There are no "man jobs" any longer. Women have invaded EVERY position where a man could use his career to feel more like a man. Including police, fire department and military.

So, here they are with nothing to cement their masculine identity ... can't focus on career, can't focus on family because neither are respected any longer. Not to mention the double standards. "What double standards?!?" you might ask? Well, for example; If a woman does not work, stays home and cares for the children while the man works, she's "noble" and "doing the hardest job in existence", yet if a man is the homemaker and the wife works, then HE is a "lazy bum". How is it when a woman does it, it's "such a hard job!" but for the man, it's "laziness"? Double standards.

This lays the groundwork for the mentality. Then factor in that more than half of marriages end up in divorce, followed by 3 decades of their adult life draining a substantial portion their income for child support and alimony. Why would a young man even want to take the risk? There is no gain, at least from a societal view, anyway. I mean, let's be real here, were it not for child support and alimony, women would be more inclined to stick it out and honor the vows they made. Since they can still take half his income if things aren't as perfect as she'd like, what does she have to lose by taking the easy path and just walking away from the marriage when things start to require effort? (but they don't need men for anything, right? So, why is it so important for them to suck the man's income dry for 2 decades if the man is so unneeded? Seems no one really considers this.)

There is nothing left for a young man to cling to to become a man other than risk, pain and loss ... is it really any wonder why they don't want to grow up? Then factor in that there seems to be an endless supply of easy sex, allowing them to still fill the basic primal urge that would at least cause a physiological push to seek and maintain a family.


So, here we are with no physical incentive, no psychological incentive and nothing but risk of serious loss.

Why would these young men today even bother?


Now as a disclaimer, I'm not young any longer and was raised with some seriously old school values when it comes to monogamy and family. So, these are not my own personal insights based on my own experiences, merely observations of the world my now young adult son is being forced to make his way into.

I pity this generation, I really do.
 Quoting: Sir Phydeau


My sons are 20, 21, and 23, and I can see their enthusiasm for the opposite sex is nowhere near what mine was (and still is), so I think you're making some very good points.

But I still feel they could find some nice girlfriends if they would just get off their asses and go for a walk outside or something.
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I used to make love to woman... then I had a few rip my heart out of my chest. Now I find myself incapable of achieving that level of intimacy with one of you sluts. So now I just use you as cum dumpsters, which it seems is what you all crave.
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if they would just get off their asses and go for a walk outside or something.
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Oh I'm in total agreement with you on this one, brother. That is a deep topic unto itself.
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Another alternative is to get into deep Tantra. I'm talking the real thing here, not some watered-down softcore suburban fantasy. Rural Tibet. Bhutan. Northern India. Nepal. Ever done a full Ganachakra in a Saivite charnel-ground strewn with decaying corpses? Your naked body smeared with ash and garlanded with human-bone necklaces? Ever greeted the dawn with the blast of a thigh-bone trumpet? Drinking blood from a skull while in yab-yum will take you higher than any drug on earth. We are talking Quadruple simultaneous female orgasms over and over with Yogic masters who know the art of kundalini seed gnosis and can retain their sperm without twitching for twelve-hour sessions. Spend a few years in some filthy cave wrapped in yak-fur chanting heterodox mantras and visualizing deities and believe me, you soar like an eagle to the adamantine peaks of enlightened carnality.
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Haven't had my coffee yet so I hope I make sense here.

OP, I've seen more loyal, caring, sweet, sexy, loving guys "these days" than ever before. I promise you, they are out there! It's just a sexual world out there, we girls just have to avoid the tramp tats, have a sense of humor and demure, mysterious flirtation.
Maybe human nature flip flops on itself every so often, but for this time on the calendar is how I see it. Is it a reaction to women's attitudes in one era to the next and visa versa? No, I think it's deeper than that.
It wasn't too long ago that "most" guys could care less about more than his O in the bed, didn't communicate what they wanted in their relationship, and didn't fully appreciate the opposite sex for all she's worth.
Keep your eyes open because they're out there! Even look on some of the threads around here to see the guys' attitudes for the better - although some have to put up a wall to hide their hurt. I honestly believe confused women outnumber the guys who know what they want. But in several years, we may see another flip flop in human nature of the sexes and not for the better!
So chin up ;-)
 Quoting: KarinZa


No, that makes no sense what so ever. You throw us out of our homes we built for you, convince us to feed children who are not ours and then throw us to the curb as intolerant swine.

You think gays are the highest type of men, "aren't they so neat" and blah, blah, blah. Okay cool. Whatever. I remember when being a dullard was bad instead of an achievement. As for geeks, well geeks of the past were those leading the forefront of battle, running naked with a claymore in one hand and their dicks in the other, reciting shakespeare, while musing on the philosophy of aestetics as they slashed into the enemy. Have a look around you. What didn't the white man build. Oh, but fuck him. He ain't worth fucking shit.

Great, but he was the only one who listen to you and your demands and what was his reward?

Thrown out of his home and feeding children who aren't his. Thanks. Thanks alot.
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Piggies gonna pig. Its nothing new. They want women to be sexy and get mad when they are. Everything they want from women is driven by the animal brain to the point they can't see women as full people just objects. A part of them really does expect women to just live to serve them with no thoughts or desires of their own. When a woman lives her own life confident in herself and abilities they will go to any extreme needed in their brain to consider it a bad thing.

It scares the shit out of them that women are actually as driven and independently minded as they are, because in their fantasies they make women so much less than they are to not feel threatened. Then they overlay that fantasy over reality to keep their confidence that women are ok to treat poorly because hey - look at this porn movie? Women have the minds of five year olds in porn because thats what comforts men to believe. Women make men so much more than men really are in their fantasies, and that scares the shit out of men too.
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Been saying similar things in the misogynist threads, agree totally. And as bad as it is that men blame women for the mess the world is in even though men run it all, what really burns my bra is when women agree. Slaves endorsing slavery.

It really is all based on fear: men fear women might not serve them if they are "liberated", and women fear they might have to be responsible for their own life. Of course many men and women are not part of this dialectic, but it's been a cancer on humanity for all of history.

Whether its racism or sexism or elitism, people have got to learn to respect others as equal human beings, and stop passing blame.
Have I now become your enemy by telling you the truth? (Gal. 4:16)
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Wow - seeing how polar the comments are, I guess none of us should GAF about making sense of it.
One sees guys as emasculated pussies while another gets yelled at by her type A hubbie. Some see guys now as great, straight (!) lovers while others see them faggy or conversely uninterested. They may appear one-track minded to some yet balanced sexually to others.
Whatever.
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if they would just get off their asses and go for a walk outside or something.
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Oh I'm in total agreement with you on this one, brother. That is a deep topic unto itself.
 Quoting: Sir Phydeau


I think there has been a seed change on how young men see themselves and how they relate to women . . . young men don't have a role model . . . while women do . . . women see intelligent, strong wise women portrayed in the movies, TV and alternative media . . . men see shiftless, stupid, selfish young men everywhere along with pitiful, bigoted, demeaned older men who are outwitted by their wives or even their children . . . yes comedy but it sends a real message . . . you are stupid and useless . . . this IMO is not by chance . . . churchlady


POLL: Why are there so many "failure-to-Launch Young Men" .. . .? . . .select the most likely reason . ..

4) The economy stupid   15.7% (220)
3) Video games have created a generation of zoned out addicted young men     13.3% (186)
8) Everyone has given up. . . The young men just gave up first    12.6% (177)
5) Lack of reasonable moral or religious upbringing   12.5% (176)
6) The feminist movement   9.8% (138)
10) Alcohol, Drugs and Pornography   9.8% (137)
12) Public Schools   7.4% (104)
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Wow - seeing how polar the comments are, I guess none of us should GAF about making sense of it.
One sees guys as emasculated pussies while another gets yelled at by her type A hubbie. Some see guys now as great, straight (!) lovers while others see them faggy or conversely uninterested. They may appear one-track minded to some yet balanced sexually to others.
Whatever.
 Quoting: KarinZa


That's the plan, the Dialectic. Keep people at war, keep them passing blame, keep them afraid, keep them dependent. At any cost, the individual and independent man or woman must be eradicated. And each side blames the other for being brainwashed, spoiled, evil, and controlling.

Two strong, independent members of the opposite sex make the best couple, because their relationship is not based on fear or control but on mutual respect. It's a partnership of equals, a team of best friends. They love each other rather than possess each other.
Have I now become your enemy by telling you the truth? (Gal. 4:16)
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Piggies gonna pig. Its nothing new. They want women to be sexy and get mad when they are. Everything they want from women is driven by the animal brain to the point they can't see women as full people just objects. A part of them really does expect women to just live to serve them with no thoughts or desires of their own. When a woman lives her own life confident in herself and abilities they will go to any extreme needed in their brain to consider it a bad thing.

It scares the shit out of them that women are actually as driven and independently minded as they are, because in their fantasies they make women so much less than they are to not feel threatened. Then they overlay that fantasy over reality to keep their confidence that women are ok to treat poorly because hey - look at this porn movie? Women have the minds of five year olds in porn because thats what comforts men to believe. Women make men so much more than men really are in their fantasies, and that scares the shit out of men too.
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Been saying similar things in the misogynist threads, agree totally. And as bad as it is that men blame women for the mess the world is in even though men run it all, what really burns my bra is when women agree. Slaves endorsing slavery.

It really is all based on fear: men fear women might not serve them if they are "liberated", and women fear they might have to be responsible for their own life. Of course many men and women are not part of this dialectic, but it's been a cancer on humanity for all of history.

Whether its racism or sexism or elitism, people have got to learn to respect others as equal human beings, and stop passing blame.
 Quoting: Keep2theCode


Fuck you. What is this racism, elitist thing? A man, notice A MAN, is a hierarchical animal. He says to himself, quite rightly, this man is better than me, let me follow him.

You don't believe, obviously, that one man is better suited to a task than another, you don't even understand the kinship such men have amongst themselves. It is quite alien to you, yet you are going to make the rules? Fuck off.

Back off bitch you standing on territory you have no map for.
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Well, not that I condone or participate in the behavior you've described (nor is this my defending it) I would like to try to share my take on it, afterall you asked. I do not claim that this is spot on truth or fact, just merely my views on the question posed and my observations of the modern society we've found ourselves.

You have to look at it from the perspective of the young man to really start to get a handle on it, I think.

For at least 2 generations, young men have been told repeatedly that women don't need them for anything. In past generations a man could feel like a man by simply being a good husband and father and holding down a job. These days, every fem-nazi screams how they don't need men for anything to anyone that will listen to them. To make matters worse, when this is stated before an audience, they are greeted with applause and comments of, "She's such a strong woman!" and such.

There are no "man jobs" any longer. Women have invaded EVERY position where a man could use his career to feel more like a man. Including police, fire department and military.

So, here they are with nothing to cement their masculine identity ... can't focus on career, can't focus on family because neither are respected any longer. Not to mention the double standards. "What double standards?!?" you might ask? Well, for example; If a woman does not work, stays home and cares for the children while the man works, she's "noble" and "doing the hardest job in existence", yet if a man is the homemaker and the wife works, then HE is a "lazy bum". How is it when a woman does it, it's "such a hard job!" but for the man, it's "laziness"? Double standards.

This lays the groundwork for the mentality. Then factor in that more than half of marriages end up in divorce, followed by 2 decades of their adult life draining a substantial portion their income for child support and alimony. Why would a young man even want to take the risk? There is no gain, at least from a societal view, anyway. I mean, let's be real here, were it not for child support and alimony, women would be more inclined to stick it out and honor the vows they made. Since they can still take half his income if things aren't as perfect as she'd like, what does she have to lose by taking the easy path and just walking away from the marriage when things start to require effort? (but they don't need men for anything, right? So, why is it so important for them to suck the man's income dry for 2 decades if the man is so unneeded? Seems no one really considers this.)

There is nothing left for a young man to cling to to become a man other than risk, pain and loss ... is it really any wonder why they don't want to grow up? Then factor in that there seems to be an endless supply of easy sex, allowing them to still fill the basic primal urge that would at least cause a physiological push to seek and maintain a family.


So, here we are with no physical incentive, no psychological incentive and nothing but risk of serious loss.

Why would these young men today even bother?


Now as a disclaimer, I'm not young any longer and was raised with some seriously old school values when it comes to monogamy and family. So, these are not my own personal insights based on my own experiences, merely observations of the world my now young adult son is being forced to make his way into.

I pity this generation, I really do.
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This member deserves some greens for that^ post.

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...very concerned with a woman's looks. just want to "get their dick wet," and whatever else crap they say.

these men don't know how to make love to a woman. they are little boys in adult bodies and make fools of themselves with their lack of control. they cannot keep their eyes to themselves and disrespect any woman they are in a relationship with by checking out other women....even in front of their gf / wife. total creeps.

can't blame biology. it's about control and how one is raised. bc women also have a strong sex drive and could be checking out packages, asses, chests, arms, etc. all day long too, but most of us see people as people and stay loyal and faithful to the person we are in a relationship with...

men also cause women to behave in increasingly outlandish ways to get their attention....thus the whorish girls kissing one another bc they think they need to do this to get/keep a man's interest bc of some men's weird fetish regarding female homosexual choosing acts.

hey men! a real normal decent woman would never engage in these abominations. if a woman told you she wanted to see you in some male on male homosexual choosing action would you do it? only if you are fucked in the head. same with women.

ugh. i don't think there's a decent man left in this world.
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its natural. mating is automatic between all species including humans. humans are animals. which is why homos are unnatural and are a disgrace to this planet
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Piggies gonna pig. Its nothing new. They want women to be sexy and get mad when they are. Everything they want from women is driven by the animal brain to the point they can't see women as full people just objects. A part of them really does expect women to just live to serve them with no thoughts or desires of their own. When a woman lives her own life confident in herself and abilities they will go to any extreme needed in their brain to consider it a bad thing.

It scares the shit out of them that women are actually as driven and independently minded as they are, because in their fantasies they make women so much less than they are to not feel threatened. Then they overlay that fantasy over reality to keep their confidence that women are ok to treat poorly because hey - look at this porn movie? Women have the minds of five year olds in porn because thats what comforts men to believe. Women make men so much more than men really are in their fantasies, and that scares the shit out of men too.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41439334


Been saying similar things in the misogynist threads, agree totally. And as bad as it is that men blame women for the mess the world is in even though men run it all, what really burns my bra is when women agree. Slaves endorsing slavery.

It really is all based on fear: men fear women might not serve them if they are "liberated", and women fear they might have to be responsible for their own life. Of course many men and women are not part of this dialectic, but it's been a cancer on humanity for all of history.

Whether its racism or sexism or elitism, people have got to learn to respect others as equal human beings, and stop passing blame.
 Quoting: Keep2theCode


Fuck you. What is this racism, elitist thing? A man, notice A MAN, is a hierarchical animal. He says to himself, quite rightly, this man is better than me, let me follow him.

You don't believe, obviously, that one man is better suited to a task than another, you don't even understand the kinship such men have amongst themselves. It is quite alien to you, yet you are going to make the rules? Fuck off.

Back off bitch you standing on territory you have no map for.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20754036


Wow, what a hateful, bitter male animal thing you are. I'd tell you what you can do with your hierarchy, but then you'd throw another hissy fit... or hit a woman just because you're so alpha-bad. So I'll just call you the moron you are and pay no more attention to you, since that's what you apparently crave.
Have I now become your enemy by telling you the truth? (Gal. 4:16)

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