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not all men are like that
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AND SO???!!!
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I am only in my early 40s. Yes, innocent, true love does still exist. When two souls that are truly in love are holding hands, energy is exchanged. You need nothing more than a romantic night holding hands, looking up at the stars to realize we are more than fuck machines. When you can learn to love someone and not confuse that with a physiological need for the act of sex, you would find it completely unnecessary to pollute your mind with porn or pollute your body with multiple sex partners.

Promiscuous sex is what holds most people back from achieving a total state of love and trust.

There is a lot more behind the veil...but its not for everyone, most stay trapped in the bondage if self gratification and self destruction via promiscuous sex.
 Quoting: daisy 35615784

Hey, promiscuous sex may be all soul damaging, but that shit sure is fun.

I think, just a personal opinion here, you need to seriously get just fucked. Have a guy hold your hands up above your head, and just absolutely knock the bottom out of you.

I think then, after you've cum harder than you ever have, you'll quit with all this "holding hands looking into the stars" bull shitaki.

Don't make love, just let that carnal instinctual part of you come on out and play.

You will find a peace that can only be achieved when the itch has FINALLY been scratched.
 Quoting: gncnew


Dude, settle down, I have good sex all the time, I'm married. Been together 18 years. And what my life experiences have taught me is that we are more than just mating machines. Love beyond sex is something different.

I have had urges just like anyone else. I choose not to watch porn or fill my mind with sexual deviance. As for my man, you don't stay married for this long without understanding what love is, how to gracefully fall down and get back up. I have an abundance of patience and understanding for my man, I know he has urges and thoughts. And sure there were times earlier in my life when I may have wanted to break the chain and be self seeking in satisfaction for what so many seem to be indulging in, but what I have learned in my personal journey here is that purity is what sets you free.

Even before I got married, promiscuous sex never felt right. Of the few lovers I had, I can't say I loved them all. So having sex with someone that you don't even love leaves you feeling very empty and alone afterwards.

Now today, I simply see that many don't have the innocence in their relationships. They cheat, get involved with people they have no intention of marrying and some even try to split relationships up. I still believe in true love with innocence, because I live it. I would never cheat, I would never break the chain. I see value in being pure in motives of the heart, in not seeking out my own selfish indulgences, just because they are available; whether it be an affair, porn, emotional affair, etc. Being true to the one you live is lost art. I am in no way saying I am perfect, I am no angel, especially when I was single, but I believe real love is one of the hardest things to do... to love someone unconditionally and to keep up your side of the bargain through thick and thin.

There are times when I feel like love is an anchor, and it holds you in place through the rising tides, and then sometimes when the anchor is dropped at sea, you feel overwhelmed like you are drowning in the sea of love... or you are buoyed far from the shore... you can see the shore, but the rope tethered to you makes you feel safe.... you just sometimes see a rogue wave and wonder; will it crash upon me and break the rope.... will I drift away to the other side.

The deeper you go in the sea, the more murky it gets. Sometimes we have to go through that in real love to understand the complexity of it all.

some people have easy answers to their equations; porn and casual sex. I know I am more complicated than that and always have been.

I never sail with a life preserver... when into overboard for someone, I sink or swim. Both have had happy outcomes.

My personal point on all this is sex is not the most important thing in life, to truly love someone means sex is in the mix, but bits not the main ingredient.

Oh, and if i was singke, I could go out and have meaningless sex if I so wanted, I would choose not to in this day and age, and that is empowering to not be corrupted by a system that wants to keep you physically/emotionally diseased and feeling down.
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Well, not that I condone or participate in the behavior you've described (nor is this my defending it) I would like to try to share my take on it, afterall you asked. I do not claim that this is spot on truth or fact, just merely my views on the question posed and my observations of the modern society we've found ourselves.

You have to look at it from the perspective of the young man to really start to get a handle on it, I think.

For at least 2 generations, young men have been told repeatedly that women don't need them for anything. In past generations a man could feel like a man by simply being a good husband and father and holding down a job. These days, every fem-nazi screams how they don't need men for anything to anyone that will listen to them. To make matters worse, when this is stated before an audience, they are greeted with applause and comments of, "She's such a strong woman!" and such.

There are no "man jobs" any longer. Women have invaded EVERY position where a man could use his career to feel more like a man. Including police, fire department and military.

So, here they are with nothing to cement their masculine identity ... can't focus on career, can't focus on family because neither are respected any longer. Not to mention the double standards. "What double standards?!?" you might ask? Well, for example; If a woman does not work, stays home and cares for the children while the man works, she's "noble" and "doing the hardest job in existence", yet if a man is the homemaker and the wife works, then HE is a "lazy bum". How is it when a woman does it, it's "such a hard job!" but for the man, it's "laziness"? Double standards.

This lays the groundwork for the mentality. Then factor in that more than half of marriages end up in divorce, followed by 2 decades of their adult life draining a substantial portion their income for child support and alimony. Why would a young man even want to take the risk? There is no gain, at least from a societal view, anyway. I mean, let's be real here, were it not for child support and alimony, women would be more inclined to stick it out and honor the vows they made. Since they can still take half his income if things aren't as perfect as she'd like, what does she have to lose by taking the easy path and just walking away from the marriage when things start to require effort? (but they don't need men for anything, right? So, why is it so important for them to suck the man's income dry for 2 decades if the man is so unneeded? Seems no one really considers this.)

There is nothing left for a young man to cling to to become a man other than risk, pain and loss ... is it really any wonder why they don't want to grow up? Then factor in that there seems to be an endless supply of easy sex, allowing them to still fill the basic primal urge that would at least cause a physiological push to seek and maintain a family.


So, here we are with no physical incentive, no psychological incentive and nothing but risk of serious loss.

Why would these young men today even bother
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Now as a disclaimer, I'm not young any longer and was raised with some seriously old school values when it comes to monogamy and family. So, these are not my own personal insights based on my own experiences, merely observations of the world my now young adult son is being forced to make his way into.

I pity this generation, I really do.
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Hey, promiscuous sex may be all soul damaging, but that shit sure is fun.

I think, just a personal opinion here, you need to seriously get just fucked. Have a guy hold your hands up above your head, and just absolutely knock the bottom out of you.

I think then, after you've cum harder than you ever have, you'll quit with all this "holding hands looking into the stars" bull shitaki.
....
 Quoting: gncnew


And are YOU available for parties????

JOKING! Joking. Joking!!!
Inside joke :D

Damn you crack me up.
"I may be paranoid, but not an android."
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AND SO???!!!
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And so some are getting lots of good sex, some have diseases, some are content to sit on the sidelines and watch.

hf
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Hey, promiscuous sex may be all soul damaging, but that shit sure is fun.

I think, just a personal opinion here, you need to seriously get just fucked. Have a guy hold your hands up above your head, and just absolutely knock the bottom out of you.

I think then, after you've cum harder than you ever have, you'll quit with all this "holding hands looking into the stars" bull shitaki.
....
 Quoting: gncnew


And are YOU available for parties????

JOKING! Joking. Joking!!!
Inside joke :D

Damn you crack me up.
 Quoting: KarinZa


He is funny. Back the day I prolly would have liked his type ;)
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if you want to talk go visit a friend or a psychologist.
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Hey, promiscuous sex may be all soul damaging, but that shit sure is fun.

I think, just a personal opinion here, you need to seriously get just fucked. Have a guy hold your hands up above your head, and just absolutely knock the bottom out of you.

I think then, after you've cum harder than you ever have, you'll quit with all this "holding hands looking into the stars" bull shitaki.
....
 Quoting: gncnew


And are YOU available for parties????

JOKING! Joking. Joking!!!
Inside joke :D

Damn you crack me up.
 Quoting: KarinZa


ROFL, girl... why? You hosting?
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Hey, promiscuous sex may be all soul damaging, but that shit sure is fun.

I think, just a personal opinion here, you need to seriously get just fucked. Have a guy hold your hands up above your head, and just absolutely knock the bottom out of you.

I think then, after you've cum harder than you ever have, you'll quit with all this "holding hands looking into the stars" bull shitaki.
....
 Quoting: gncnew


And are YOU available for parties????

JOKING! Joking. Joking!!!
Inside joke :D

Damn you crack me up.
 Quoting: KarinZa


He is funny. Back the day I prolly would have liked his type ;)
 Quoting: daisy 35615784


Back in the day? Shoot gurl, I'm everyone's type... and you'd like me now, trust me - I'm on the internet.
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if you want to talk go visit a friend or a psychologist.
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.... so - should she just stare at the screen then?

Sorry, just being a royal smart ass today.
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Women are always complaining that men are fucking idiots, but refuse to own up to the fact that they themselves are the idiots most men are fucking.
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It's pretty simple. Those complaining about the opposite sex bring out the worst in them. Whose fault is that?
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...very concerned with a woman's looks. just want to "get their dick wet," and whatever else crap they say.

these men don't know how to make love to a woman. they are little boys in adult bodies and make fools of themselves with their lack of control. they cannot keep their eyes to themselves and disrespect any woman they are in a relationship with by checking out other women....even in front of their gf / wife. total creeps.

can't blame biology. it's about control and how one is raised. bc women also have a strong sex drive and could be checking out packages, asses, chests, arms, etc. all day long too, but most of us see people as people and stay loyal and faithful to the person we are in a relationship with...

men also cause women to behave in increasingly outlandish ways to get their attention....thus the whorish girls kissing one another bc they think they need to do this to get/keep a man's interest bc of some men's weird fetish regarding female homosexual choosing acts.

hey men! a real normal decent woman would never engage in these abominations. if a woman told you she wanted to see you in some male on male homosexual choosing action would you do it? only if you are fucked in the head. same with women.

ugh. i don't think there's a decent man left in this world.
 Quoting: m&m's


You need some long hard mirror time. Examine yourself thoroughly. Fix your own issues. Only then do you deserve a real man. You are the cause of your own problems.
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Women are always complaining that men are fucking idiots, but refuse to own up to the fact that they themselves are the idiots most men are fucking.
 Quoting: Obiwanbeeohbee


I see what you did there.
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OP = Troll.

If you're actually serious... Why don't you take two minutes to shut up and think about the deeper instinctual reasons behind your questions instead of spouting off like a complete and utter imbecile.
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Just men???


Ahahahahahahahahahahah.


You better wake the fuck up and pull your head out of your ass, because any woman worth her weight in salt is only interested in the same thing... fuckin' and gettin' fucked.


There's little else to life that matters, and I say that with all seriousness.
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I think everyone needs to chillax. Life and love are all about learning as you go and developing who you are, i.e.; your character, etc.

I will leave this thread with this... although I am not single, I truly empathize with both sexes over the promiscuity issues that seem to be more so than ever. It seems there are truly guys and gals that want the same thing; a solid relationship with love and great sex. The problem is both sides have to interview a lot of candidates to find someone that meets the initial criteria for their needs. And no one wants to make compromises to achieve their goals. If I was single the main obstacle for me would be the fact that so many men (and women of course) are engaging in anal. I am not a prude, but I would find it a huge turn off to meet a guy, get a glimmer of his past, or better, have him be truthful about his sexual behaviors so that I could make a decision about how bad I want to risk catching something with someone who is that promiscuous. Its a lifetime decision, even if its just casual sex, once you sleep with someone, you've slept with everyone they have and the anal stuff just turns me off, I don't care if the guy is brad Pitt, I ain't sucking a cock that's been in some ho's butt. No thanks, I might as well go stick my tongue in a septic tank. Its just gross. And apparently all y'all men like that stuff, so no doubt I would be single, lol.

As a woman who takes care of her body and mind, I just have standards that equate to a healthy body band frame of mind. That is why I get so hell bent on being pure, to hopefully have a young female reader see the importance of keeping your mind, heart and body pyre, so that when you meet Mr right, he knows he's got a keeper. No greater gift to give the one you love than a pure mind, heart & body. Men do not want to marry a woman who has taken it up the butt from dozens, maybe more of men. Sorry but bits true.

Just my 2cents.
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Women are always complaining that men are fucking idiots, but refuse to own up to the fact that they themselves are the idiots most men are fucking.
 Quoting: Obiwanbeeohbee


It's pretty simple. Those complaining about the opposite sex bring out the worst in them. Whose fault is that?
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I must agree. I get a kick out of these threads. Very entertaining.
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Women are always complaining that men are fucking idiots, but refuse to own up to the fact that they themselves are the idiots most men are fucking.
 Quoting: Obiwanbeeohbee


I see what you did there.
 Quoting: gncnew


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AND SO???!!!
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And so some are getting lots of good sex, some have diseases, some are content to sit on the sidelines and watch.

hf
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That means every thing is status quot?!!!!!

OK just checking! But if everything is relatively normal in that respect why did the OP post this thread??????

AAAAAAHHHHHHH never mind I was having a brain fart!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Just men???


Ahahahahahahahahahahah.


You better wake the fuck up and pull your head out of your ass, because any woman worth her weight in salt is only interested in the same thing... fuckin' and gettin' fucked.


There's little else to life that matters, and I say that with all seriousness.
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YEP!!!!!
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If I could find a woman that could carry on an intelligent conversation for more than 30 seconds, maybe I wouldn't just want sex. However, until I find that woman, I will continue to get my dick wet. If you don't stimulate my mind, at least you can stimulate something else...
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Just men???


Ahahahahahahahahahahah.


You better wake the fuck up and pull your head out of your ass, because any woman worth her weight in salt is only interested in the same thing... fuckin' and gettin' fucked.


There's little else to life that matters, and I say that with all seriousness.
 Quoting: Mister Obvious


If you have a vag... we need to hang out... if you're a dude... well played my man ::fist bump::
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Ah ... it's the males fault. Whatever the story is the response by women ALWAYS is that "It is the guy's (or males) fault".

Women NEVER accept responsibility for anything, including their own happiness, they always HAVE to find a male to blame about something.

The reality is that 70% of ALL married women have ALREADY cheated (per the most recent studies), which means that virtually all average to better looking women have cheated on their husband ... but remember "It is ALWAYS HIS FAULT" that SHE cheated (boring, need to find one's self, he is mean, etc. etc., always a guy blaming excuse - I have NEVER seen a woman look inside herself and realize that maybe SHE has an issue, or 15).

Men are finally wising up and realizing that long term relationships with women are a thing of the past. She WILL most likely cheat on you in the future if she is of average looks or better, so the male is better off to keep the relationship more superficial so that when she DOES do what she is GOING TO DO he can just move on to other pastures.
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Porn.
Hands down, porn has warped men's minds.
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Studies show as many as 60%-70% of women watch porn... guess they're immune to the warping effects?

We're all pretending like the West's avant garde version of morality and civility is the staple by which people were made and human sexuality was based upon.

Newsflash - people been into fucking long before 'MERICAN family values.

Take a history trip down sex and fetish lane... hell, porn has been around since, well, the Kama Sutra is pretty damn old.

Men are wired to be men, women are wired to be women. Just because you've got sand in your clit over your man wanting to bone other chicks while you knit away, don't pretend like the world is going to hell over it.
 Quoting: gncnew


Do you have a link to that stat?
 Quoting: George B


Quick one from a poll, will dig around for the actual study and update:

[link to www.thesun.co.uk]

"1 in 3 adults browsing porn are women"
[link to www.spam]

and more:

"Nielsen ratings have reported over the last decade that women are beginning to catch up to men in their frequency of porn use. In 2006, 1.4 million women were regularly downloading Internet porn. In 2007, nearly 13 million American women were viewing porn on a monthly basis (about 40 percent of all women). All in all, Nielson claimed about one out of every three adults browsing Internet porn sites are women. So are these women watching porn with their partners? You bet they are, but not as many as you would think."
[link to blog.californiapsychics.com]

UH-OH!!!

"Women and Pornography

13% of Women admit to accessing pornography at work.

70% of women keep their cyber activities secret.

17% of all women struggle with pornography addiction.

Women, far more than men, are likely to act out their behaviors in real life, such as having multiple partners, casual sex, or affairs.

Women favor chat rooms 2X more than men.

1 of 3 visitors to all adult web sites are women.

9.4 million women access adult web sites each month."
[link to wsr.byu.edu (secure)]
You durty little ladies!
 Quoting: gncnew

None of what you posted says 60-70% of women are viewing porn. I could believe 30-40%
99% of men and perhaps a third of women.
Porn has still had a much more adverse affect on men than women, simply because more men view it, and at younger ages as well.
Young men now have grown up with poor social skills because of playing games all the time. When it comes to talking to women, they flounder because they didn't develop those skills. (And women are all about social skills.) These guys don't know what to do to get laid, so they turn to watching even more porn.
Porn does not show reality. It is focused on the male orgasm. It does not show how long it takes to help women get to the point of cumming. Women are subservient in porn, with guys cumming in their eyes etc. Not to mention all the degrading and sadistic stuff out there.
Porn does more damage to men, simply because they are more visually wired. Seeing hundreds of thousands of naked women over and over rewires the brain.
Women's sexuality is not as tied to vision. It is more about feeling and sensation. For most women. Obviously the third to a quarter of women do enjoy regularly seeing images of men. But, sex for women, is intrinsically tied to being in their bodies (sensations).

It is funny how people make projections about who is posting etc.
I like sex, and I have a great partner.
That doesn't mean that I have stopped analyzing society, and what is wrong with it.
To my perspective, men are severely controlled by tptb through porn.

People say that feminism has destroyed society. I think porn has too.
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It started with women's lib. You started it. Deal with the consequences.
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clappa
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i wasn't around to start shit....and that is NOT where it started.
 Quoting: m&m's


It started in a cave a couple millennia ago - deal with it.

Genetics is how we decide if you're hot, and if we deem you to be hot, we want to impregnate you. Is what it is....
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