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Thousands of US POW of WW II died in Russian Gulags with full knowledge of the US government

 
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For more than 30.000 US POWs who were captured by German troops, life became a living hell when the former German POW camps were taken over by the Russian army. These poor souls were marched off to Siberian labor camps while the US army, as well as Presidents Truman and Roosevelt, were standing by doing nothing.
After all it was "Uncle Stalin" giving the orders, as he was lovingly called by Pres. Truman and not some badass German Nazi.

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Following the victory in Europe in 1945, both Presidents Roosevelt and Truman sent directives to U.S. command in Europe that said there would be "no criticism of treatment [of American POWs] by the Russians" and that there would be "no retaliatory action to Russian failure to cooperate," which referred to Russian failure to give the United States access to American POWs in the German POW camps the Russians had captured. As a result, only the 4,165 American prisoners were released, those from the one camp visited (at Reisa). The remaining 21,000 Americans prisoners in German camps taken over by the Russians were abandoned to the Russians. They were shipped to Russia to lives worse than death. Records were then falsified by U.S. and British intelligence (an equivalent number of British POWs were also abandoned) in an effort to hide what had happened. 
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Gotta love the chosen ones, they get to come up with their own history which is simple since theyve been making up self serving history for near 6000 years
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bump for importance, if true.

OP do you have more sources?
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Let me be the first:
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Let me be the first:
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Based on what sources?
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The collusion of the tribal internationalists and your paid representatives goes back way further than you were aware.
Basically you lost your country in 1913, and they are preparing to lie up loose ends as we speak
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And my own grandfather told me that he saw hundreds of American POWs being marched by the Russian army to the same labor camp in Siberia where he was taken to after his own capture.
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And my own grandfather told me that he saw hundreds of American POWs being marched by the Russian army to the same labor camp in Siberia where he was taken to after his own capture.
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Thanks Tekunda.

So most likely not a hoax.
Some member might want to take down the BS flag.
I looks silly right now.

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Let me be the first:
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Huh?

Links galore, if you google it.


Now...why am I not surprised?


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Let me be the first:
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[link to www.usvetdsp.com]

The book mentions US POWs held in Russia.
I did not post to accuse the US, but the fate of these poor souls is kept a secret. They also deserve that the world learns about their terrible fate, abandoned by their own country.
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How nice that those ignored and forgotten in Benghazi and those abandoned in Vietnam and Korea will have somebody they can talk to
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How nice that those ignored and forgotten in Benghazi and those abandoned in Vietnam and Korea will have somebody they can talk to
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Well, the difference is that the ones you mentioned fell into enemy hands, while the US soldiers of WWII should have been liberated by an ally, after all the Rusdiand were WWII allies, but were treated as enemy POWs by the Russian allies and nobody in the US government lifted a finger to help free these guys.
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How nice that those ignored and forgotten in Benghazi and those abandoned in Vietnam and Korea will have somebody they can talk to
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Well, the difference is that the ones you mentioned fell into enemy hands, while the US soldiers of WWII should have been liberated by an ally, after all the Rusdiand were WWII allies, but were treated as enemy POWs by the Russian allies and nobody in the US government lifted a finger to help free these guys.
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You are perhaps unaware that Patton was disposed of for bringing up the obvious, that we should have aligned with a reorganized Germany and wiped out the Soviets once and for all because the US had far more in common with a post war Germany than a post war Soviet Union?

Curiously he was right in the end.
The remnants of the soviet union will dance on the graves of the US,its constitution and those of its citizens
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Yikes, scary if true.

For the record though, my grandfather was rescued by the Russians from POW camp in Germany. He was only two survivors from that camp, and lived because he played dead when the Germans shot all the POWs, when they knew that they were going to be over run by the Russians.

So obviously, they didn't take everyone they found. Of course my grandfather was in no condition to march anywhere. It took him a full year in the hospital before he could go home.
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I have no doupt about it, along with korean war missing and vietnam missing. You morons that beleave in your governments honesty are fools!
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How nice that those ignored and forgotten in Benghazi and those abandoned in Vietnam and Korea will have somebody they can talk to
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Well, the difference is that the ones you mentioned fell into enemy hands, while the US soldiers of WWII should have been liberated by an ally, after all the Rusdiand were WWII allies, but were treated as enemy POWs by the Russian allies and nobody in the US government lifted a finger to help free these guys.
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You are perhaps unaware that Patton was disposed of for bringing up the obvious, that we should have aligned with a reorganized Germany and wiped out the Soviets once and for all because the US had far more in common with a post war Germany than a post war Soviet Union?

Curiously he was right in the end.
The remnants of the soviet union will dance on the graves of the US,its constitution and those of its citizens
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Patton was SO VERY FUCKING RIGHT, everything the US suffered from, the undending betrayal and subversion of the soviet masters and managers which bled those that saved them dry as thanks, all of that could have been avoided, save for the very ones that Patton and later Jod McCarthy tried to illuminate.
You know who killed America, you can tell because they will tell you its impossible to even think it or you're an anti------ and you owe them.

You may have built it, you may have saved it, you may have plans to use it for yourself, but they have other ideas of who gets to benefit from it.
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And just so its known, Rooseveldt forced all those attempting to flee the soviets BACK to Stalin knowing full well what awaited them as punishment for trying to save themselves from soviet oppression.
There is much innocent blood on the hands of the communist managment and intellectual theorists, but then again, to them, nobody else matters for shit
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Yikes, scary if true.

For the record though, my grandfather was rescued by the Russians from POW camp in Germany. He was only two survivors from that camp, and lived because he played dead when the Germans shot all the POWs, when they knew that they were going to be over run by the Russians.

So obviously, they didn't take everyone they found. Of course my grandfather was in no condition to march anywhere. It took him a full year in the hospital before he could go home.
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Welcome to an exhibition celebrating the life of Joseph Robert Beyrle, the only American paratrooper to fight in both the U.S. and Soviet armies against Hitler during the Second World War.
[link to www.1victory.org]


BTW, OP spreading "good old" Goebbels propaganda from shitty sites here and looks like some sheeple here "believe" him.
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For more than 30.000 US POWs who were captured by German troops, life became a living hell when the former German POW camps were taken over by the Russian army. These poor souls were marched off to Siberian labor camps while the US army, as well as Presidents Truman and Roosevelt, were standing by doing nothing.
After all it was "Uncle Stalin" giving the orders, as he was lovingly called by Pres. Truman and not some badass German Nazi.

Excerpt from the article
(read more at the link above)

Following the victory in Europe in 1945, both Presidents Roosevelt and Truman sent directives to U.S. command in Europe that said there would be "no criticism of treatment [of American POWs] by the Russians" and that there would be "no retaliatory action to Russian failure to cooperate," which referred to Russian failure to give the United States access to American POWs in the German POW camps the Russians had captured. As a result, only the 4,165 American prisoners were released, those from the one camp visited (at Reisa). The remaining 21,000 Americans prisoners in German camps taken over by the Russians were abandoned to the Russians. They were shipped to Russia to lives worse than death. Records were then falsified by U.S. and British intelligence (an equivalent number of British POWs were also abandoned) in an effort to hide what had happened. 
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It was "Uncle Joe" - not "Uncle Stalin"
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Yikes, scary if true.

For the record though, my grandfather was rescued by the Russians from POW camp in Germany. He was only two survivors from that camp, and lived because he played dead when the Germans shot all the POWs, when they knew that they were going to be over run by the Russians.

So obviously, they didn't take everyone they found. Of course my grandfather was in no condition to march anywhere. It took him a full year in the hospital before he could go home.
 Quoting: samanthasunflower


Welcome to an exhibition celebrating the life of Joseph Robert Beyrle, the only American paratrooper to fight in both the U.S. and Soviet armies against Hitler during the Second World War.
[link to www.1victory.org]


BTW, OP spreading "good old" Goebbels propaganda from shitty sites here and looks like some sheeple here "believe" him.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41517222



Precisely!

The fact that in 1945 U.S.A. was the only country with an atomic bomb was enough of encouragement for the U.S.S.R. not to do it.

Similar lies to the fabricated story that "Eisenhower killed over a million German POWs" nonsense.

GLP is becoming a pseudo-historical crap depository.


Lets now say something good about the Commies!


[link to michalw.narod.ru]



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Re: Thousands of US POW of WW II died in Russian Gulags with full knowledge of the US government
Yikes, scary if true.

For the record though, my grandfather was rescued by the Russians from POW camp in Germany. He was only two survivors from that camp, and lived because he played dead when the Germans shot all the POWs, when they knew that they were going to be over run by the Russians.

So obviously, they didn't take everyone they found. Of course my grandfather was in no condition to march anywhere. It took him a full year in the hospital before he could go home.
 Quoting: samanthasunflower


Welcome to an exhibition celebrating the life of Joseph Robert Beyrle, the only American paratrooper to fight in both the U.S. and Soviet armies against Hitler during the Second World War.
[link to www.1victory.org]


BTW, OP spreading "good old" Goebbels propaganda from shitty sites here and looks like some sheeple here "believe" him.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41517222


Seriously, gfys. the Reds impounded and imprisoned US fliers that crash landed or got lost and landed in their territory while flying over Japan and China, they refused to give the fliers or the aircraft back, which they copied the B29 to threaten the US in the Cold war.
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Re: Thousands of US POW of WW II died in Russian Gulags with full knowledge of the US government
Yikes, scary if true.

For the record though, my grandfather was rescued by the Russians from POW camp in Germany. He was only two survivors from that camp, and lived because he played dead when the Germans shot all the POWs, when they knew that they were going to be over run by the Russians.

So obviously, they didn't take everyone they found. Of course my grandfather was in no condition to march anywhere. It took him a full year in the hospital before he could go home.
 Quoting: samanthasunflower


Welcome to an exhibition celebrating the life of Joseph Robert Beyrle, the only American paratrooper to fight in both the U.S. and Soviet armies against Hitler during the Second World War.
[link to www.1victory.org]


BTW, OP spreading "good old" Goebbels propaganda from shitty sites here and looks like some sheeple here "believe" him.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41517222



Precisely!

The fact that in 1945 U.S.A. was the only country with an atomic bomb was enough of encouragement for the U.S.S.R. not to do it.

Similar lies to the fabricated story that "Eisenhower killed over a million German POWs" nonsense.

GLP is becoming a pseudo-historical crap depository.


Lets now say something good about the Commies!


[link to michalw.narod.ru]



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Idiot, in 1945 the hebrew mafia had already provided the soviets everything they needed to build their own bomb. When someone goes through all that trouble for no money, you have to take a close look at their motivation.
The same people who wrote their book stole and murdered to make sure they protected their own little 'Rosemaries baby'
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Re: Thousands of US POW of WW II died in Russian Gulags with full knowledge of the US government
Yikes, scary if true.

For the record though, my grandfather was rescued by the Russians from POW camp in Germany. He was only two survivors from that camp, and lived because he played dead when the Germans shot all the POWs, when they knew that they were going to be over run by the Russians.

So obviously, they didn't take everyone they found. Of course my grandfather was in no condition to march anywhere. It took him a full year in the hospital before he could go home.
 Quoting: samanthasunflower


Welcome to an exhibition celebrating the life of Joseph Robert Beyrle, the only American paratrooper to fight in both the U.S. and Soviet armies against Hitler during the Second World War.
[link to www.1victory.org]


BTW, OP spreading "good old" Goebbels propaganda from shitty sites here and looks like some sheeple here "believe" him.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41517222



Precisely!

The fact that in 1945 U.S.A. was the only country with an atomic bomb was enough of encouragement for the U.S.S.R. not to do it.

Similar lies to the fabricated story that "Eisenhower killed over a million German POWs" nonsense.

GLP is becoming a pseudo-historical crap depository.


Lets now say something good about the Commies!


[link to michalw.narod.ru]



bsflag
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Yes, the first thing that came into my mind when I clicked this thread.
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Yikes, scary if true.

For the record though, my grandfather was rescued by the Russians from POW camp in Germany. He was only two survivors from that camp, and lived because he played dead when the Germans shot all the POWs, when they knew that they were going to be over run by the Russians.

So obviously, they didn't take everyone they found. Of course my grandfather was in no condition to march anywhere. It took him a full year in the hospital before he could go home.
 Quoting: samanthasunflower


Welcome to an exhibition celebrating the life of Joseph Robert Beyrle, the only American paratrooper to fight in both the U.S. and Soviet armies against Hitler during the Second World War.
[link to www.1victory.org]


BTW, OP spreading "good old" Goebbels propaganda from shitty sites here and looks like some sheeple here "believe" him.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41517222


Seriously, gfys. the Reds impounded and imprisoned US fliers that crash landed or got lost and landed in their territory while flying over Japan and China, they refused to give the fliers or the aircraft back, which they copied the B29 to threaten the US in the Cold war.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1310640


You're lying.

The USSR was not at war with Japan yet, so the crew, commanded by Capt Howard R. Jarrel, was interned. The crew were allowed to escape into American-occupied Iran in January 1945.
[link to myplace.frontier.com]

And learn difference between "imprisoned" and "interned", please.
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It was "Uncle Joe" - not "Uncle Stalin"
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Indeed I stand corrected.

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