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So they don't even have enough evidence to prosecute them, but they're holding them indefinitely without charges?!?!?

Coming soon to a FEMA camp near you?!?!?

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The US is scaling back its Guantanamo prosecutions from 36 to 20 or less, admitting that it lacks the evidence to convict many of the detainees of international war crimes.

Of the 166 detainees held at the prison camps, few have viable charges to face war crimes tribunal. Army Brigadier General Mark Martins, the chief prosecutor for the tribunals, told Reuters that the 36 detainees the US initially sought to prosecute was an “ambitious” number.

The Guantanamo Review Task Force completed a review in 2010 that made this determination, but Martins said no more than 20 detainees have viable charges that prosecutors could realistically pursue. Seven of these have already undergone their trials, and six are facing pretrial hearings this week and next...


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So when they "Disappear" you, they'll just tell everyone..."Trust us, he was a bad guy..."
"And how can a man die better than facing fearful odds, for the ashes of his fathers, and the temples of his Gods..." ~ Horatius

"Because he told the truth, and once you've heard the truth, everything else is just cheap whiskey..."
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"If you have nothing to hide, then you have nothing to fear..." ~ Joseph Goebbels, Nazi Propaganda Minister
"And how can a man die better than facing fearful odds, for the ashes of his fathers, and the temples of his Gods..." ~ Horatius

"Because he told the truth, and once you've heard the truth, everything else is just cheap whiskey..."
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Welcome to the Fourth Reich...

Hitler and his buddy Prescott Bush won after all...

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I believe the total opposite of what this fucking POS has to say. I do not believe the Executive branch of this govt because they are overran by fucking Muslims and Islamist Czars.

I do still trust the Congress but not Boehner. Fuck the Senate majority. I think Harry Reid needs to off himself. I, no longer trust the Judicial branch b/c they have been overran by the same as the Executive branch. If it were not for a majority of Republicans in the house, we would be a fucking Islamic nation now.

I hope everyone starts blowing whistles in this administration so much that this fucking POS fake has to remove himself and stop disgracing the USA. He is a fucking traitor himself. Hey and I hope Nancy Pelosi fucking gets busted for all of her crimes before she can leave office. I hope that death would be an easier out for her.
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"If you can't trust us, we're going to have some problems..." ~ Barack Hussein Obama


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If the feds can't trust the people we already have problems.

The entire federal government has been comprised. They used prism to dig up dirt on all of them. The executive branch now controls all 3 branches. They now get to say what is considered constitutional and what is not. Remember when the supreme court stated they would vote down obamacare? Then they were blackmailed. Also the supreme court is full of republicans and democrats. The only thing the supreme court should be loyal to is the constitution. We need judges with no political affiliation, although they would be blackmailed all the same.
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Gitmo is a psychological thing that the new world order does to get people use to it and accustomed to it. Next, more Americans will be disappeared also. But if they disappear someone that God truly loves and knows; then this will be a definite problem. As God will strike them down, and then show them WHO is really God!!
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So they don't even have enough evidence to prosecute them, but they're holding them indefinitely without charges?!?!?

Coming soon to a FEMA camp near you?!?!?

SNIP

The US is scaling back its Guantanamo prosecutions from 36 to 20 or less, admitting that it lacks the evidence to convict many of the detainees of international war crimes.

Of the 166 detainees held at the prison camps, few have viable charges to face war crimes tribunal. Army Brigadier General Mark Martins, the chief prosecutor for the tribunals, told Reuters that the 36 detainees the US initially sought to prosecute was an “ambitious” number.

The Guantanamo Review Task Force completed a review in 2010 that made this determination, but Martins said no more than 20 detainees have viable charges that prosecutors could realistically pursue. Seven of these have already undergone their trials, and six are facing pretrial hearings this week and next...


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You want to know what that's all about?

Girl on the net by the name of Litty Lid who is related to the Rothschild figured that one out about 5 years ago.

They're making them into Terrorists who hate the country and then they're gonna let em out on the streets of America.

Gee, I'm willing to bet that most of them don't give a fuck anymore whether they live or die and would be more then willing to strap a bomb onto themselves and walk into a federal building somewhere and blow a bunch of goddamned feds to hell.

Coming soon to a city near you...
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Am I being a thread killer again...
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Down a Dark Road: Taxi to the dark side

Dilawar, an Afghan cab driver whose story is the centerpiece of
IMO..Likely 95% of the detainees at that hellhole are not guilty of anything more than being pissed as they watch their families and friends decimated by the occupiers.

I watched this documentary/movie a few years ago, very disturbing.



Dilawar, an Afghan cab driver whose story is the centerpiece of "Taxi to the Dark Side," died at Bagram Air Base after five days in U.S. custody. (Jigsaw Productions)

By Richard Leiby
Washington Post Staff Writer
Friday, April 27, 2007

In 2002, a young Afghan taxi driver named Dilawar, who'd never spent a night away from his dusty little village, got lost in the fog of war and took a wrong turn into an abyss from which he would never return. It was a detention center at Bagram Air Base, where he was grilled on suspicion of being a Taliban fighter. Military interrogators hung him from a cage in chains, kept him up all night and kicked him senseless, turning his legs into pulp.

He lasted only five days. The Army initially attributed his death to natural causes, even though coroners had ruled it a homicide. Low-level soldiers were punished. It turned out that Dilawar (who, like many Afghans, used only one name) was not an enemy fighter, had no terrorist connections and had committed no crime at all.

"He was in the wrong place at the wrong time. He was the wrong man," says filmmaker Alex Gibney, whose latest documentary, "Taxi to the Dark Side," puts the fate of one hapless, ordinary Afghan into a larger and more disturbing context. Its focus is torture, and whether torture became a deliberate component of U.S. policy at places like Bagram, Abu Ghraib and Guantanamo Bay.

Researchers at Human Rights First have categorized more than 70 detainee deaths in the Iraq and Afghanistan wars as homicides linked to gross recklessness, abuse or torture. The findings are based largely on the military's own records, obtained through Freedom of Information Act requests, according to Hina Shamsi, an attorney for the organization.

"Murder's torture," Lawrence Wilkerson, a retired Army colonel and former Colin Powell aide, says in the film. "Murder's the ultimate torture."

More than 250 service members have been "held accountable for their roles" in detainee abuse cases, according to a Pentagon spokesman, Lt. Col. Mark Ballesteros. But official inquiries have basically exonerated the brass. Indeed, a dozen such reviews found no evidence of "a government policy directing, encouraging or condoning abuse," Ballesteros says. "I can tell you that, in general, humane treatment of detainees is and always has been the Department of Defense standard."

Gibney's 2005 Oscar-nominated documentary "Enron: The Smartest Guys in the Room" explored corporate and personal corruption. "Taxi," he says, explores corruption of the rule of law and American principles. His conclusion, supported by Wilkerson and several other experts in the film, is unflinching: Those truly responsible for the detainee deaths are the top Pentagon and Bush administration officials who set the detainee policies in motion.

"Taxi," which premieres tomorrow at the Tribeca Film Festival, is part of a long tradition of documentaries that tell the Unofficial Story, revisiting and synthesizing media coverage of events, then probing further. They posit conclusions or lead viewers to them through well-grounded arguments, saying, essentially, Take another look. Forget the trees, here's the forest. Among those that have won accolades: "Hearts and Minds" (1974), "The Panama Deception" (1992) and "Waco: The Rules of Engagement" (1997).

"The film becomes a sort of agent provocateur," says Gibney. "Part of my brief is to make a hopelessly complicated and arcane subject comprehensible to the average viewer."


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Down a Dark Road: Taxi to the dark side

Dilawar, an Afghan cab driver whose story is the centerpiece of
IMO..Likely 95% of the detainees at that hellhole are not guilty of anything more than being pissed as they watch their families and friends decimated by the occupiers.

I watched this documentary/movie a few years ago, very disturbing.



Dilawar, an Afghan cab driver whose story is the centerpiece of "Taxi to the Dark Side," died at Bagram Air Base after five days in U.S. custody. (Jigsaw Productions)

By Richard Leiby
Washington Post Staff Writer
Friday, April 27, 2007

In 2002, a young Afghan taxi driver named Dilawar, who'd never spent a night away from his dusty little village, got lost in the fog of war and took a wrong turn into an abyss from which he would never return. It was a detention center at Bagram Air Base, where he was grilled on suspicion of being a Taliban fighter. Military interrogators hung him from a cage in chains, kept him up all night and kicked him senseless, turning his legs into pulp.

He lasted only five days. The Army initially attributed his death to natural causes, even though coroners had ruled it a homicide. Low-level soldiers were punished. It turned out that Dilawar (who, like many Afghans, used only one name) was not an enemy fighter, had no terrorist connections and had committed no crime at all.

"He was in the wrong place at the wrong time. He was the wrong man," says filmmaker Alex Gibney, whose latest documentary, "Taxi to the Dark Side," puts the fate of one hapless, ordinary Afghan into a larger and more disturbing context. Its focus is torture, and whether torture became a deliberate component of U.S. policy at places like Bagram, Abu Ghraib and Guantanamo Bay.

Researchers at Human Rights First have categorized more than 70 detainee deaths in the Iraq and Afghanistan wars as homicides linked to gross recklessness, abuse or torture. The findings are based largely on the military's own records, obtained through Freedom of Information Act requests, according to Hina Shamsi, an attorney for the organization.

"Murder's torture," Lawrence Wilkerson, a retired Army colonel and former Colin Powell aide, says in the film. "Murder's the ultimate torture."

More than 250 service members have been "held accountable for their roles" in detainee abuse cases, according to a Pentagon spokesman, Lt. Col. Mark Ballesteros. But official inquiries have basically exonerated the brass. Indeed, a dozen such reviews found no evidence of "a government policy directing, encouraging or condoning abuse," Ballesteros says. "I can tell you that, in general, humane treatment of detainees is and always has been the Department of Defense standard."

Gibney's 2005 Oscar-nominated documentary "Enron: The Smartest Guys in the Room" explored corporate and personal corruption. "Taxi," he says, explores corruption of the rule of law and American principles. His conclusion, supported by Wilkerson and several other experts in the film, is unflinching: Those truly responsible for the detainee deaths are the top Pentagon and Bush administration officials who set the detainee policies in motion.

"Taxi," which premieres tomorrow at the Tribeca Film Festival, is part of a long tradition of documentaries that tell the Unofficial Story, revisiting and synthesizing media coverage of events, then probing further. They posit conclusions or lead viewers to them through well-grounded arguments, saying, essentially, Take another look. Forget the trees, here's the forest. Among those that have won accolades: "Hearts and Minds" (1974), "The Panama Deception" (1992) and "Waco: The Rules of Engagement" (1997).

"The film becomes a sort of agent provocateur," says Gibney. "Part of my brief is to make a hopelessly complicated and arcane subject comprehensible to the average viewer."


More at [link to www.washingtonpost.com]
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Well I think our founding fathers would feel like any innocent man imprisoned without benefit of charges or a trial is the definition of tyranny...

And while I'm speaking out for those people because it is our government perpetrating this tyranny, I do so mainly concerned with how this relates to United States Citizens under the rules associated with the Patriot Act and NDAA...
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So when they "Disappear" you, they'll just tell everyone..."Trust us, he was a bad guy..."
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Exaaaactly!
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Down a Dark Road: Taxi to the dark side

Dilawar, an Afghan cab driver whose story is the centerpiece of
IMO..Likely 95% of the detainees at that hellhole are not guilty of anything more than being pissed as they watch their families and friends decimated by the occupiers.

I watched this documentary/movie a few years ago, very disturbing.

More at [link to www.washingtonpost.com]
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Gotta love the NDAA. In no time they'll be coming for average Americans who speak out against the governent. Thought IRS harrassment was bad? See you in the FEMA reeducation center!
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So when they "Disappear" you, they'll just tell everyone..."Trust us, he was a bad guy..."
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The founding fathers would have taken up arms in the streets over something 1/10th as egregious.

But the sleeping sheep cannot be bothered. It would take away from their video game time.
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So they don't even have enough evidence to prosecute them, but they're holding them indefinitely without charges?!?!?

Coming soon to a FEMA camp near you?!?!?

SNIP

The US is scaling back its Guantanamo prosecutions from 36 to 20 or less, admitting that it lacks the evidence to convict many of the detainees of international war crimes.

Of the 166 detainees held at the prison camps, few have viable charges to face war crimes tribunal. Army Brigadier General Mark Martins, the chief prosecutor for the tribunals, told Reuters that the 36 detainees the US initially sought to prosecute was an “ambitious” number.

The Guantanamo Review Task Force completed a review in 2010 that made this determination, but Martins said no more than 20 detainees have viable charges that prosecutors could realistically pursue. Seven of these have already undergone their trials, and six are facing pretrial hearings this week and next...


[link to rt.com]
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They are looking for a way to release them, the same way they created a scenario to release the blind sheik that backfired in Benghazi.

Eventually they will say not enough evidence then some one will challenge their being incarcerated and with the right left wing judge will order them free.

It is no coincidence that this did not happen in Obama's first term...

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So they don't even have enough evidence to prosecute them, but they're holding them indefinitely without charges?!?!?

Coming soon to a FEMA camp near you?!?!?

SNIP

The US is scaling back its Guantanamo prosecutions from 36 to 20 or less, admitting that it lacks the evidence to convict many of the detainees of international war crimes.

Of the 166 detainees held at the prison camps, few have viable charges to face war crimes tribunal. Army Brigadier General Mark Martins, the chief prosecutor for the tribunals, told Reuters that the 36 detainees the US initially sought to prosecute was an “ambitious” number.

The Guantanamo Review Task Force completed a review in 2010 that made this determination, but Martins said no more than 20 detainees have viable charges that prosecutors could realistically pursue. Seven of these have already undergone their trials, and six are facing pretrial hearings this week and next...


[link to rt.com]
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You want to know what that's all about?

Girl on the net by the name of Litty Lid who is related to the Rothschild figured that one out about 5 years ago.

They're making them into Terrorists who hate the country and then they're gonna let em out on the streets of America.

Gee, I'm willing to bet that most of them don't give a fuck anymore whether they live or die and would be more then willing to strap a bomb onto themselves and walk into a federal building somewhere and blow a bunch of goddamned feds to hell.

Coming soon to a city near you...
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Yeah, you all are right.

Of course the government wouldn't possibly in the habit or creating MKULTRA mind control terrorists and then setting them free on the country.

Silly me...
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the problem with so many amerikkkenz is that they fill their shorts with dung when they hear the word terrorist. their brains shut off and they fall to their knees begging for the government to save them. It's a shame they lack the common intellect to understand their government is the worlds largest terror organization. they know how to control the amerikkken sheeple. with fear.
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I believe the total opposite of what this fucking POS has to say. I do not believe the Executive branch of this govt because they are overran by fucking Muslims and Islamist Czars.

I do still trust the Congress but not Boehner. Fuck the Senate majority. I think Harry Reid needs to off himself. I, no longer trust the Judicial branch b/c they have been overran by the same as the Executive branch. If it were not for a majority of Republicans in the house, we would be a fucking Islamic nation now.

I hope everyone starts blowing whistles in this administration so much that this fucking POS fake has to remove himself and stop disgracing the USA. He is a fucking traitor himself. Hey and I hope Nancy Pelosi fucking gets busted for all of her crimes before she can leave office. I hope that death would be an easier out for her.
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this deeply inbred fool is a pure example of what it means to be an amerikkken. ignorance and fear rule his or her miserable existence. amerikkkenz have sunk so low on the global scale they have to look down on third world countries to see something worse... bin laden won fools. you are why.
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A lot of the men being held at Gitmo were in crowds that were rounded up in their countries. A lot of them were innocent just going about their business.
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"If you can't trust us, we're going to have some problems..." ~ Barack Hussein Obama


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A lot of those Gitmo bastards were seat fillers. Bush and Chain me (wanna go duck hunting?) had to show results after they implemented measures for the preservation and protection of the "Homeland."

The Department of Homeland Security and the Patriot Act were going to go through no matter what got in their way (too much money and nefarious planning for it to fail - hell, even Building 7 took a dive for the team) so what's a few muslim cabbies and shop keepers to them. Whip the country up with tales of the "evil-doers" and the bull, and all attendant shit, was out of the gate.

Bush-Obama: Flip sides of the same coin with one agenda.

All the rest is the sound and fury of fools.
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damn more bad news today. i dont know which is worse? this, irs using ar-15s or obama campaign has a massive database on everyone?

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