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they say I'm a felon and they own my dna

TEST IT THEN

I have the cure for everything in my bloodstream if they will test it
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Waters: Obama Campaign Database Has 'Information About Everything on Every Individual’
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“And that database will have information about everything on every individual in ways that it’s never been done before,” Waters told “Washington Watch” host Roland, referring to Obama’s “Organizing for America,” which was changed from a campaign organization to a 501(c)(4) called Organizing for Action. . . . “The president has put in place an organization that contains a kind of database that no one has ever seen before in life,” she added. “That’s going to be very, very powerful.” - See more at:


[link to www.cnsnews.com]

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Note she does not say the government will have this but the Obama Campaign!

Isn't this just what we thought in the first place???? This is not for national security but to insure one agenda stays in power indefinitely and to insure one faction retains power indefinitely.
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bump
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KimmmieAnnaJones....I'm sure you're right about what you're saying


but the truth remains that the NSA didn't start sucking up all domestic inernet and phone communications until Bush Jr took office
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True.... Now we know why there was a huge government program to make all communications digital, rather then analogue as well.
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KimmmieAnnaJones....I'm sure you're right about what you're saying


but the truth remains that the NSA didn't start sucking up all domestic inernet and phone communications until Bush Jr took office
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2615603


True.... Now we know why there was a huge government program to make all communications digital, rather then analogue as well.
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Remember the Minority Report?

Too much technology?
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My spouse and I have consistently sent money to the Bradley Manning legal defense fund.

Every year since then we've been audited.
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I think we will all concede that power does corrupt and so all politicians end up corrupt in the end.

But OBAMA is the problem at hand.

Now he just held a PRIVATE off the record meeting with the White House Press Corps!

I don't ever recall a sitting POTUS doing this and Eric Holder just did the same thing.

They have the nerve to openly meet in PRIVATE with what is supposed to be a free press!

And the thing with this thread is the fact that MadMax Waters thinks this data base belongs to the Obama CAMPAIGN.
One of the most important aspects of conspiracy theories is being able to discern when there isn't one.

Oh yeah, like you'd understand anyway.

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In other news. . . .

Apparently the IRS has just stolen Ten (10) Million, that's 10,000,0000 medical records.

One million in California and the rest elsewhere.

Just recently, well within the last year or so, my own physician has gone to what he called federally mandated software record keeping.
One of the most important aspects of conspiracy theories is being able to discern when there isn't one.

Oh yeah, like you'd understand anyway.

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Remember, the biggest threats to a Statist society are the people that they can't gather useful information on. Meaning anyone that wants to choose to be anonymous or off the grid people.
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In other news. . . .

Apparently the IRS has just stolen Ten (10) Million, that's 10,000,0000 medical records.

One million in California and the rest elsewhere.

Just recently, well within the last year or so, my own physician has gone to what he called federally mandated software record keeping.
 Quoting: Bluebird


Yeah, my last medical intake form asked if our household had any guns.

As though that has a bearing on my sinus issues.
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Remember, the biggest threats to a Statist society are the people that they can't gather useful information on. Meaning anyone that wants to choose to be anonymous or off the grid people.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24957083


I strongly recommend everyone read J.J. Luna's books on privacy.

I have mixed feelings about this. I am a member of the DAR and my ancestors didn't choose privacy. On the other hand, privacy is the new luxury.
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I think what is missing herein this discussion is the fact that, at least, this has been Chicago style politics for decades. Daly's father created data bases for his benefit. Obama is small potatoes to begin with and following the money of those who put him in office is where the story is.
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but i don't know what to fill in the blanks, what money? chicago? why is chicago special, help me understand.



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In other news. . . .

Apparently the IRS has just stolen Ten (10) Million, that's 10,000,0000 medical records.

One million in California and the rest elsewhere.

Just recently, well within the last year or so, my own physician has gone to what he called federally mandated software record keeping.
 Quoting: Bluebird


and the IRS is training with AR-15's
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In other news. . . .

Apparently the IRS has just stolen Ten (10) Million, that's 10,000,0000 medical records.

One million in California and the rest elsewhere.

Just recently, well within the last year or so, my own physician has gone to what he called federally mandated software record keeping.
 Quoting: Bluebird


and the IRS is training with AR-15's
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You mean the Gestapo is training with AR-15's
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Well, while I will agree that all our POTUS have been seriously flawed, I don't believe for one minute that it has ever reached this level of targeting individuals who have opposing points of view and to this extent. Not even Nixon went this far. There is no evidence of it in the past and certainly not on this massive scale as evidenced by the building of the NSA storage facility.

The technology didn't exist even as far back as Hillary and those actual paper FBI files. Remember a member of Nixon's staff went to prison for having one such file. Hillary gathered them on every member of congress.
 Quoting: Bluebird


The thing that is annoying, is the democrats can see all this too. They can see this corruption. Yet they continue to support this fraud of a potus. They are proving they are no longer pro American democrats, but rather globalist statists.

When Bush Jr. messed up, most of us conservatives didn't continue to make excuses for him. We accepted facts and moved on.
 Quoting: *Evan

Libs be hatin' on the wite debil.

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Well, while I will agree that all our POTUS have been seriously flawed, I don't believe for one minute that it has ever reached this level of targeting individuals who have opposing points of view and to this extent. Not even Nixon went this far. There is no evidence of it in the past and certainly not on this massive scale as evidenced by the building of the NSA storage facility.

The technology didn't exist even as far back as Hillary and those actual paper FBI files. Remember a member of Nixon's staff went to prison for having one such file. Hillary gathered them on every member of congress.
 Quoting: Bluebird


The thing that is annoying, is the democrats can see all this too. They can see this corruption. Yet they continue to support this fraud of a potus. They are proving they are no longer pro American democrats, but rather globalist statists.

When Bush Jr. messed up, most of us conservatives didn't continue to make excuses for him. We accepted facts and moved on.
 Quoting: *Evan

Libs be hatin' on the wite debil.
 Quoting: Hard Eight


IT's funny cause that sounds like a joke...but it's not. Especially from the white guilt libtards.
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Going to show you something I saw yesterday that should not be known.

Snip; The man, identified in federal charging documents as Joseph Reel, 32, of Kettering, Ohio, near Dayton, was charged with destruction of government property after the incident in the predawn hours of Sunday.

The Secret Service said Reel, who Ohio records indicate is a registered Republican who voted in the November general election

[link to usnews.nbcnews.com]

That release of information is illegal under the privacy act of 74.



Now the bigger issue, the privacy act of 74 forced through congress by the democrats because of Nixon collection political information with his enemy’s list.

Snip; The Privacy Act of 1974 (Pub.L. 93–579, 88 Stat. 1896, enacted December 31, 1974, 5 U.S.C. § 552a), a United States federal law, establishes a Code of Fair Information Practice that governs the collection, maintenance, use, and dissemination of personally identifiable information about individuals that is maintained in systems of records by federal agencies. A system of records is a group of records under the control of an agency from which information is retrieved by the name of the individual or by some identifier assigned to the individual. The Privacy Act requires that agencies give the public notice of their systems of records by publication in the Federal Register. The Privacy Act prohibits the disclosure of information from a system of records absent the written consent of the subject individual, unless the disclosure is pursuant to one of twelve statutory exceptions. The Act also provides individuals with a means by which to seek access to an amendment of their records, and sets forth various agency record-keeping requirements.



The Privacy Act states in part:
No agency shall disclose any record which is contained in a system of records by any means of communication to any person, or to another agency, except pursuant to a written request by, or with the prior written consent of, the individual to whom the record pertains


[link to en.wikipedia.org]

So why do we know that this guy above voted and what he is registered as. It’s a crime to divulge that information. The white house is not even allowed to collect this information, it is a crime to collect information on free speech for political purposes. Remember it is also a crime to delete ANY information at all.


[link to www.justice.gov]


From 2009 [link to www.forbes.com]

from 2009 also: [link to www.foxnews.com]

Snip; "If the White House deletes anything, it violates one statute. If the White House collects data on the free speech, it violates another statute."

Napolitano was referring to the Privacy Act of 1974, which was passed after the Nixon administration used federal agencies to illegally investigate individuals for political purposes. Enacted after Richard Nixon's resignation in the Watergate scandal, the statute generally prohibits any federal agency from maintaining records on individuals exercising their right to free speech.

Read more: [link to www.foxnews.com]


Read more: [link to www.foxnews.com]

Privacy act was vetoed and forced through congress with a majority vote! Funny how they want to ignore it now.


Going to tell you something else, the WIKI on the privacy act of 74 has been altered and the alterations are not in the history. This is not the first time I have seen that either.
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So does google.
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Yea, but Google doesn't have the power of force behind them. Google cannot imprison me.
 Quoting: *Evan


Google is the NSA
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1379065


No, google is a search engine.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 957683


Google is a search engine, yes, but their roots or branches are far beyond that.

They are marketing, communications, technology, and social networking, and so much more. Google is not a "one trick pony".
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Yea, but Google doesn't have the power of force behind them. Google cannot imprison me.
 Quoting: *Evan


Google is the NSA
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1379065


No, google is a search engine.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 957683


Google is a search engine, yes, but their roots or branches are far beyond that.

They are marketing, communications, technology, and social networking, and so much more. Google is not a "one trick pony".
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Google is Gog
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In other news. . . .

Apparently the IRS has just stolen Ten (10) Million, that's 10,000,0000 medical records.

One million in California and the rest elsewhere.

Just recently, well within the last year or so, my own physician has gone to what he called federally mandated software record keeping.
 Quoting: Bluebird


Yeah, my last medical intake form asked if our household had any guns.

As though that has a bearing on my sinus issues.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1501064


what? dang, that's an interesting development. i wonder if that is requested by ..whom? insurance company? state or federal? county?

but the latest chatter is about gun violence as a public health issue, which it is, but we need to get back to creating some hope and security in the family "unit".

so some lots of doctors, especially pediatricians, are picking up on the issue of guns around children, i guess.
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Google is the NSA
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No, google is a search engine.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 957683


Google is a search engine, yes, but their roots or branches are far beyond that.

They are marketing, communications, technology, and social networking, and so much more. Google is not a "one trick pony".
 Quoting: oLOVEz


Google is Gog
 Quoting: Baconhead


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I dont have a smartphone.

Convince me why I should give a fuck about any of this?
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I dont have a smartphone.

Convince me why I should give a fuck about any of this?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 40371362


Because unless you're developmentally delayed at the toddler stage, it's not all about you.
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I dont have a smartphone.

Convince me why I should give a fuck about any of this?
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Because unless you're developmentally delayed at the toddler stage, it's not all about you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1501064


chuckle
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Do some research. NSA helped form Google.

Every search through Google. Every keystroke. Goes through !
NSA
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Every move we make every breath we take, they are watching us.

This is an article from last year

How Obama Expanded the National Security State


[link to www.counterpunch.org]

And remember, no one prior to Obama has droned U.S. citizens.

Anything you do goes into their data base--mortgages, car titles, toaster oven warranties.
One of the most important aspects of conspiracy theories is being able to discern when there isn't one.

Oh yeah, like you'd understand anyway.

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I dont have a smartphone.

Convince me why I should give a fuck about any of this?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 40371362


Because unless you're developmentally delayed at the toddler stage, it's not all about you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1501064


Its all about you and your smartphone, then?

I know your scared that all the stupid shit you do with it will be revealed to all.

I honestly dont give a fuck what you idiots do with your garbage borg implant phones.

Still not impressed.

World has plenty of REAL problems.

That also aren't all about me.
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Every search through Google. Every keystroke. Goes through !
NSA
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SO STOP FUCKING USING GOOGLE!

Easy solution to a non-problem.
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I dont have a smartphone.

Convince me why I should give a fuck about any of this?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 40371362


Because unless you're developmentally delayed at the toddler stage, it's not all about you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1501064


Its all about you and your smartphone, then?

I know your scared that all the stupid shit you do with it will be revealed to all.

I honestly dont give a fuck what you idiots do with your garbage borg implant phones.

Still not impressed.

World has plenty of REAL problems.

That also aren't all about me.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 40371362


But a massive government database isn't a real problem?

You think just cause your broke ass doesn't have a mobile that they don't have your name on one of their lists?

Naive you are.
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I dont have a smartphone.

Convince me why I should give a fuck about any of this?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 40371362


Because unless you're developmentally delayed at the toddler stage, it's not all about you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1501064


Its all about you and your smartphone, then?

I know your scared that all the stupid shit you do with it will be revealed to all.

I honestly dont give a fuck what you idiots do with your garbage borg implant phones.

Still not impressed.

World has plenty of REAL problems.

That also aren't all about me.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 40371362


Dude, I don't have a smartphone, but I know that encroachment into our privacy is a Constitutional matter, and as an informed citizen I care about these matters.

Be a Low Information Voter, I don't care. Every society has morons.

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