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[link to mobile.bloomberg.com] Buried in a little-noticed rule on microwave ovens is a change in the U.S. government’s accounting for carbon emissions that could have wide-ranging implications for everything from power plants to the Keystone XL pipeline.
The increase of the so-called social cost of carbon, to $38 a metric ton in 2015 from $23.80, adjusts the calculation the government uses to weigh costs and benefits of proposed regulations. The figure is meant to approximate losses from global warming such as flood damage and diminished crops.
With the change, government actions that lead to cuts in emissions -- anything from new mileage standards to clean-energy loans -- will appear more valuable in its cost-benefit analyses. On the flip side, approvals that could lead to more carbon pollution, such as TransCanada Corp. (TRP)’s Keystone pipeline or coal-mining by companies such as Peabody Energy Corp. (BTU) on public lands, may be viewed as more costly.
“As we learn that climate damage is worse and worse, there is no direction they could go but up,” Laurie Johnson, chief economist for climate at the Natural Resources Defense Council, said in an interview. Johnson says the administration should go further; she estimates the carbon cost could be as much as $266 a ton.
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Even supporters questioned the way the administration slipped the policy out without first opening it for public comment. The change was buried in an afternoon announcement on May 31 about efficiency standards for microwave ovens, a rule not seen as groundbreaking.
“This is a very strange way to make policy about something this important,” Frank Ackerman, an economist at Tufts University who published a book about the economics of global warming, said in an interview. The Obama administration “hasn’t always leveled with us about what is happening behind closed doors.”
Industry representatives are equally puzzled.
“It’s a pretty important move. To do this without any outside participation is bizarre,” said Jeff Holmstead, a lawyer at Bracewell & Giuliani LLP (1222L) representing coal-dependent power producers and other industry groups. A legal challenge to the determination would be difficult, but could be tried by itself or in a challenge to a specific rulemaking that uses the cost, he said.
Leading Models
The administration first arrived at this calculation in 2010 using “leading expert models” and updated it “applying the same methods and assumptions,” Office of Management and Budget spokesman Ari Isaacman Astles said in an e-mail.
The Economic Report of the President in March said the administrati
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Common guys - get this illegal marxist muslim fucker out of gov - granted they have all the media and politicians in the bag, but what the hell is wrong with your military!?
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Common guys - get this illegal marxist muslim fucker out of gov - granted they have all the media and politicians in the bag, but what the hell is wrong with your military!?
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The US shilitary couldn't stand up and do something that actually helps the citizens of this country if they TRIED. They are over-hyped, bribed posers that only shoot at sand castles and phony boogeymen that no one ever even sees, while wasting trillions of taxpayer dollars on NOTHING, just IDIOTIC GARBAGE, FAKE TERRORISM THAT IS ALL A LIE SO COMMIE SCUMBAGS CAN KEEP CONTROL OF THE NOW COMMUNIST USA. Couldn't be more obvious to even the most brain damaged.
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Common guys - get this illegal marxist muslim fucker out of gov - granted they have all the media and politicians in the bag, but what the hell is wrong with your military!?
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The US shilitary couldn't stand up and do something that actually helps the citizens of this country if they TRIED. They are over-hyped, bribed posers that only shoot at sand castles and phony boogeymen that no one ever even sees, while wasting trillions of taxpayer dollars on NOTHING, just IDIOTIC GARBAGE, FAKE TERRORISM THAT IS ALL A LIE SO COMMIE SCUMBAGS CAN KEEP CONTROL OF THE NOW COMMUNIST USA. Couldn't be more obvious to even the most brain damaged.
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Btw, it's the "big brass" military "leaders" that are the problem, not the majority of the soldiers who are bullied into doing what they told and not to be honest, just like the blackmailed US journalists who lie to us 24/7 on mainstream media.
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Common guys - get this illegal marxist muslim fucker out of gov - granted they have all the media and politicians in the bag, but what the hell is wrong with your military!?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41586727


The US shilitary couldn't stand up and do something that actually helps the citizens of this country if they TRIED. They are over-hyped, bribed posers that only shoot at sand castles and phony boogeymen that no one ever even sees, while wasting trillions of taxpayer dollars on NOTHING, just IDIOTIC GARBAGE, FAKE TERRORISM THAT IS ALL A LIE SO COMMIE SCUMBAGS CAN KEEP CONTROL OF THE NOW COMMUNIST USA. Couldn't be more obvious to even the most brain damaged.
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Btw, it's the "big brass" military "leaders" that are the problem, not the majority of the soldiers who are bullied into doing what they told and not to be honest, just like the blackmailed US journalists who lie to us 24/7 on mainstream media.
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i wonder how many of our boys will ignore their officials telling them to not read about the multiple obama scandals
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we need carbon taxes to save the polar bears 5a
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Libtards unproven theory now used to rake in the dollars wankers PIN.
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So I get carbon tax rebates for planting trees in my yard?
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You would think that he got enough money from his failed solar slush funds that were used on his last campaign trail. Where is the FBI?

Evergreen Solar ($25 million)
SpectraWatt ($500,000)*
Solyndra ($535 million)*
Beacon Power ($43 million)*
EnerDel’s subsidiary Ener1 ($118.5 million)*
Abound Solar ($400 million)*
A123 Systems ($279 million)*
Willard and Kelsey Solar Group ($700,981)
Raser Technologies ($33 million)*
Energy Conversion Devices ($13.3 million)*
Mountain Plaza, Inc. ($2 million)
Olsen’s Crop Service and Olsen’s Mills Acquisition Company ($10 million)*
Range Fuels ($80 million)*
Thompson River Power ($6.5 million)*
Stirling Energy Systems ($7 million)*
Azure Dynamics ($5.4 million)
Azure Dynamics ($5.4 million)
Satcon ($3 million)*
Konarka Technologies Inc. ($20 million)*
Still Meow...

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You would think that he got enough money from his failed solar slush funds that were used on his last campaign trail. Where is the FBI?

Evergreen Solar ($25 million)
SpectraWatt ($500,000)*
Solyndra ($535 million)*
Beacon Power ($43 million)*
EnerDel’s subsidiary Ener1 ($118.5 million)*
Abound Solar ($400 million)*
A123 Systems ($279 million)*
Willard and Kelsey Solar Group ($700,981)
Raser Technologies ($33 million)*
Energy Conversion Devices ($13.3 million)*
Mountain Plaza, Inc. ($2 million)
Olsen’s Crop Service and Olsen’s Mills Acquisition Company ($10 million)*
Range Fuels ($80 million)*
Thompson River Power ($6.5 million)*
Stirling Energy Systems ($7 million)*
Azure Dynamics ($5.4 million)
Azure Dynamics ($5.4 million)
Satcon ($3 million)*
Konarka Technologies Inc. ($20 million)*
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Where was it I heard the phrase 'Kill 'em all and let God sort 'em out'?
Just can't remember. Oh,well...
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have you people seen how much light bulbs cost now?????????

fuck this obama never ending tax shit
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Common guys - get this illegal marxist muslim fucker out of gov - granted they have all the media and politicians in the bag, but what the hell is wrong with your military!?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41586727




same conundrum that's hit the general populace the world over, but perhaps especially right here in Hells Kitchen

that being they've all been systematically brain washed, chipped, mind controlled, demonized, and threatened, blackmailed, extorted, set up, murdered, you know the drill

same old

tends to slow most of the population down to a dull roar

if that

a mere crawl in some states

pity

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