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Anonymous Coward User ID: 36378132 Italy 06/13/2013 12:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9341332 Completely agree. NaturalNews is about as reliable a source as the Enquirer. + 1 Canada It's actually true but natural news twisted the info. Not near an approval at all. Everything still needs to be discussed. This "journalist" put the focus on autistic kids and let hear that every kid with a malfunction is gonna be savagely murdered by evil socialist doctors without having a word in it. Which is false as well. This article is misleading and twisted. Even in the title "mass-euthanize" is mentioned as if the waiting rooms in the hospitals were full of dying kids waiting to be put to death. 2000 demands (not all accepted) in 2 years for all belgians above 18... It's nothing statistically speaking. It's 3 people a day. Out of 11 millions. People euthanize themselves on a daily basis and let their kids do the same by feeding them with junk food and letting them do drugs like cigs. (now here we can talk about mass euthanasia — probably around 92%) I guess these parents must be socialists |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 41612989 United States 06/13/2013 12:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Indeed it is. Not sure about a child being able to make an informed consent but as someone with a family disposition towards dementia and having worked with families affected by dementia - would I consider euthanasia for myself? In a heartbeat. i feel that, certainly of all people, you should know the mind of the demented ("dementia", a nice word for, "demented": Google it.), since it takes one to know one When the elderly, who have served man and government for their entire lives, whose body, physically, breaks down, and finally runs out of energy, which physically includes the brain, weare to call them "demented ("dementia")" and murder them in cold blood. Right? |
eekers (OP) Dreamer of Dreams User ID: 38137469 United States 06/13/2013 12:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hey DICKHEAD, A) I'm a SHE, and B) I never said I was agains euthanasia, I'm very much for it if someone is suffering and terminally ill. Why don't you take your jump to conclusions mat and shove it up your ass. My bad then. Accept my flowers. OK. Accepted :) "We shall not cease from exploration, and the end of all our exploring will be to arrive where we started and know the place for the first time." - T. S. Eliot |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 7669788 Iceland 06/13/2013 12:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Indeed it is. Not sure about a child being able to make an informed consent but as someone with a family disposition towards dementia and having worked with families affected by dementia - would I consider euthanasia for myself? In a heartbeat. i feel that, certainly of all people, you should know the mind of the demented ("dementia", a nice word for, "demented": Google it.), since it takes one to know one When the elderly, who have served man and government for their entire lives, whose body, physically, breaks down, and finally runs out of energy, which physically includes the brain, weare to call them "demented ("dementia")" and murder them in cold blood. Right? pension funds investors love this idea for obvious reasons |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 5515018 Netherlands 06/13/2013 01:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | euthanasia frees souls from their suffering in defective bodies. it's perfectly natural. in nature such animals would be eaten by predators. keeping them alive (and suffering, thus torturing them) and allowing them to procreate weakens the species which ultimately results in extinction. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41630210 And who convinced you that humanity is no different to animals? Please take one guess: the same murderous spirit behind laws and decisions such as this. NO CHILD OR ADULT SHOULD EVER BE GIVEN THIS CHOICE WHEN WE ARE FULLY CAPABLE OF PROVIDIBG CARE AND LOVE TO THE NATURAL END OF A LIFE. They choose to end themselves because others make them feel LIKE BURDENS. How about we do the right thing and stop THAT? Yeah! Because care and love takes away the excruciating PHYSICAL pain some patients are in the couple of weeks before they die (end sarcasm). How humane of you to let them suffer and deprive them of their right to decides for themselves if they die now, or say in three weeks with a lot (really, really really a lot of pain.. pain so heavy that even morphine doesnt help anymore) of pain. Hope you dont have to see a loved one be in so much pain... You really dont know what your talking about. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 41576771 United States 06/13/2013 01:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If you dont want euthansia for yourself: be myy guest, but don't deny ME the right to euthanise myself when i', terminally ill. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10975754 Last week I lost my dad to lungcancer. Although our whole family thought he would take euthansia, he didnt. Maybe, when the time comes, I don't want to euthanise myself also. That's up to me AND NOBODY ELSE... Everyone who thinks different : please explain me why YOU feel YOU have the right to deside for ME in which way i leave this earth... Go for it. People suicide everyday. You can get about any med you want to take yourself out. Don't det shit up for a repeat of history because you want the suicide option. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 5515018 Netherlands 06/13/2013 01:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If you dont want euthansia for yourself: be myy guest, but don't deny ME the right to euthanise myself when i', terminally ill. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10975754 Last week I lost my dad to lungcancer. Although our whole family thought he would take euthansia, he didnt. Maybe, when the time comes, I don't want to euthanise myself also. That's up to me AND NOBODY ELSE... Everyone who thinks different : please explain me why YOU feel YOU have the right to deside for ME in which way i leave this earth... Go for it. People suicide everyday. You can get about any med you want to take yourself out. Don't det shit up for a repeat of history because you want the suicide option. Which repeat of history? In which country was/is euthanaisia mandatory? Are you trying to do a godwin? Completely different ballpark. Comparing "The final solution" with euthanasia on the will of the patient is like comparing apples and oranges. Besides: if a goverment whats to do a "final solution" they dont need liberal euthanisia laws before. They can just do it.. Its time you americans (and others) took some eductation on our euthanisia law. Its a little bit different of what one of the republican candidates tried to tell you (with the bracelets:"please dont kill me".. That was total and utter BS). We have checks and balances in place. We dont tell patients that the have to put a plastic bag over their heads and take sleeping pills and then hope they dont wake up. Here in Holland 2 different doctors have to agree that the patient is in unbearable pain with NO prospect of becoming better (nor the pain, nor the disease), and that it is the final and free will of the patient. Untill the moment the injection is given, even the second beforem the patient stil can stop the euthanasia. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 41576771 United States 06/13/2013 01:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ITS NOT ACCEPTED IN THE U.S OR CANADA SO THE MEDICAL INDUSTRY, CARE HOMES, CAN SOAK THEM PEOPLE OUTTA ALL THEIR MONEY. IT´S SAD. EUTHANASIA SHOULD BE LEGAL EVERYWHERE. WHY LET PEOPLE SUFFER ESPECIALLY PEOPLE IN THEIR 90´S. Quoting: CHARLIECOOL69 37247395 This is total BULLSHIT!!! People are NOT forced to take the care available. My Grandmother just died last week of dementia. The did not force feed her with tubes. She would rip out the first I.V. she got and therefore did not get another. They gave her meds to stay comfortable while she finished dieing as she also had a bladder cancer of which she did not receive any treatment for on top of the dementia AND the stroke that put her in the hospital the week before........ SO SHOVE THIS SHIT THINKING UP YOUR ASS!!!! I have just been through all of this recently so don't lie to me! This whole thing stinks because they are already able to get all of this in Belgium. THIS is about setting things up so they can repeat history inch by inch. STFU liar. |
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Eggcellent Re-Instate Smith-Mundt! User ID: 30199236 United States 06/13/2013 01:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have no doubt if the NWO were to become established forced euthanasia would be widely practiced, but denied. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9014106 Doctors routinely over-ride parents wishes for their mentally ill children now, and are looking at further increasing control in other areas too. Doctors also do killing now. I've heard of cases where the doctor gives a patient morphine - to the point they are always asleep. Ofcourse, no sustenance is offered to the patient, and they are subsequently dehydrated to death. I know personally of a case where an elderly woman with cancer after surgery was given excessive amounts of morphine, which lead to her death. She had NOT been in much pain prior to the administration according to her son. He was so upset. I'm sure this doesn't occur everywhere - but I'm not sure how wide spread it is. Although it is still pretty much illegal for a doctor to actively euthanize a patient, quite often patients actually desire to "end it all" and will have a "conversation" with their doctor. For instance, my own Mother was told by her doctor "You DO know that if you were to take more than the recommended dosage it could result in your death, don't you?" In other words, if she had wanted a way out, there it was. She never actually used the "final exit", but just knowing that she HAD the choice seemed to make a big difference in her attitude and outlook, and even her pain level. "I have come to the conclusion that all news should be treated like 9/11, assume it is a psyop with actors participating in a staged event complete with props, until proven otherwise, in which case assume whatever is being recorded, reported, televised, is distortions/lying by omission/outright lies, until proven otherwise." - Anonymous, 4-13-12 |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 41644038 Sweden 06/13/2013 01:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If you dont want euthansia for yourself: be myy guest, but don't deny ME the right to euthanise myself when i', terminally ill. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10975754 Last week I lost my dad to lungcancer. Although our whole family thought he would take euthansia, he didnt. Maybe, when the time comes, I don't want to euthanise myself also. That's up to me AND NOBODY ELSE... Everyone who thinks different : please explain me why YOU feel YOU have the right to deside for ME in which way i leave this earth... Go for it. People suicide everyday. You can get about any med you want to take yourself out. Don't det shit up for a repeat of history because you want the suicide option. Which repeat of history? In which country was/is euthanaisia mandatory? Are you trying to do a godwin? Completely different ballpark. Comparing "The final solution" with euthanasia on the will of the patient is like comparing apples and oranges. Besides: if a goverment whats to do a "final solution" they dont need liberal euthanisia laws before. They can just do it.. Its time you americans (and others) took some eductation on our euthanisia law. Its a little bit different of what one of the republican candidates tried to tell you (with the bracelets:"please dont kill me".. That was total and utter BS). We have checks and balances in place. We dont tell patients that the have to put a plastic bag over their heads and take sleeping pills and then hope they dont wake up. Here in Holland 2 different doctors have to agree that the patient is in unbearable pain with NO prospect of becoming better (nor the pain, nor the disease), and that it is the final and free will of the patient. Untill the moment the injection is given, even the second beforem the patient stil can stop the euthanasia. What monsters like you always conveniently forget to tell us is that this is the path of least resistance, just look at you you're already ok with assisted suicide and abortion, the next step of course is infanticide and involuntary suicide (murder) and the next step of course are camps. What monsters like you forget to mention is if the government would go out and jump straight to concentration camps it is them that will be killed off so they have to do it in stages, the 6 step program is their favorite: [link to www.cuttingedge.org] People like you should really be killed, you monsters are much too dangerous to be allowed to live, and back in the day we used to kill traitors like you, we used to kill monsters like you, unfortunately they do not kill the likes of you anymore, instead it is the weak that is murdered. YOU SUCK! |
eekers (OP) Dreamer of Dreams User ID: 38137469 United States 06/13/2013 01:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have no doubt if the NWO were to become established forced euthanasia would be widely practiced, but denied. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9014106 Doctors routinely over-ride parents wishes for their mentally ill children now, and are looking at further increasing control in other areas too. Doctors also do killing now. I've heard of cases where the doctor gives a patient morphine - to the point they are always asleep. Ofcourse, no sustenance is offered to the patient, and they are subsequently dehydrated to death. I know personally of a case where an elderly woman with cancer after surgery was given excessive amounts of morphine, which lead to her death. She had NOT been in much pain prior to the administration according to her son. He was so upset. I'm sure this doesn't occur everywhere - but I'm not sure how wide spread it is. Although it is still pretty much illegal for a doctor to actively euthanize a patient, quite often patients actually desire to "end it all" and will have a "conversation" with their doctor. For instance, my own Mother was told by her doctor "You DO know that if you were to take more than the recommended dosage it could result in your death, don't you?" In other words, if she had wanted a way out, there it was. She never actually used the "final exit", but just knowing that she HAD the choice seemed to make a big difference in her attitude and outlook, and even her pain level. yeah a lot of times "pain management" they administer in hospice ends up as being legal (unintentional, of course) euthanasia. there are loopholes. "We shall not cease from exploration, and the end of all our exploring will be to arrive where we started and know the place for the first time." - T. S. Eliot |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 5515018 Netherlands 06/13/2013 01:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If you dont want euthansia for yourself: be myy guest, but don't deny ME the right to euthanise myself when i', terminally ill. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10975754 Last week I lost my dad to lungcancer. Although our whole family thought he would take euthansia, he didnt. Maybe, when the time comes, I don't want to euthanise myself also. That's up to me AND NOBODY ELSE... Everyone who thinks different : please explain me why YOU feel YOU have the right to deside for ME in which way i leave this earth... Go for it. People suicide everyday. You can get about any med you want to take yourself out. Don't det shit up for a repeat of history because you want the suicide option. Which repeat of history? In which country was/is euthanaisia mandatory? Are you trying to do a godwin? Completely different ballpark. Comparing "The final solution" with euthanasia on the will of the patient is like comparing apples and oranges. Besides: if a goverment whats to do a "final solution" they dont need liberal euthanisia laws before. They can just do it.. Its time you americans (and others) took some eductation on our euthanisia law. Its a little bit different of what one of the republican candidates tried to tell you (with the bracelets:"please dont kill me".. That was total and utter BS). We have checks and balances in place. We dont tell patients that the have to put a plastic bag over their heads and take sleeping pills and then hope they dont wake up. Here in Holland 2 different doctors have to agree that the patient is in unbearable pain with NO prospect of becoming better (nor the pain, nor the disease), and that it is the final and free will of the patient. Untill the moment the injection is given, even the second beforem the patient stil can stop the euthanasia. What monsters like you always conveniently forget to tell us is that this is the path of least resistance, just look at you you're already ok with assisted suicide and abortion, the next step of course is infanticide and involuntary suicide (murder) and the next step of course are camps. What monsters like you forget to mention is if the government would go out and jump straight to concentration camps it is them that will be killed off so they have to do it in stages, the 6 step program is their favorite: [link to www.cuttingedge.org] People like you should really be killed, you monsters are much too dangerous to be allowed to live, and back in the day we used to kill traitors like you, we used to kill monsters like you, unfortunately they do not kill the likes of you anymore, instead it is the weak that is murdered. YOU SUCK! So, you want the right to decide for another person what he or she does with her or hers life, and i'm the monster. You sir/madam, should look in the mirror. Especialy your last sentence.. You deny me the right to decide over my own life, but you grant yourself the right to decide over mine.. Who's the monster here. Just one question: are you religiuos? Furthermore, I hope you dont(your loved ones) have to go through the same couple of months I had with my father. Seeing someone you love and care about in so much pain, losing so much weight, no power anymore in his body, is really hard. Especially knowing that, eventualy, he's going to die. My father didnt chose euthanasia. That was his choice. But seeing this disease, i'm glad to know that I at least have the option. What other people, especially you, chose : I could care less.. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 36378132 Italy 06/13/2013 01:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If you dont want euthansia for yourself: be myy guest, but don't deny ME the right to euthanise myself when i', terminally ill. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10975754 Last week I lost my dad to lungcancer. Although our whole family thought he would take euthansia, he didnt. Maybe, when the time comes, I don't want to euthanise myself also. That's up to me AND NOBODY ELSE... Everyone who thinks different : please explain me why YOU feel YOU have the right to deside for ME in which way i leave this earth... Go for it. People suicide everyday. You can get about any med you want to take yourself out. Don't det shit up for a repeat of history because you want the suicide option. Which repeat of history? In which country was/is euthanaisia mandatory? Are you trying to do a godwin? Completely different ballpark. Comparing "The final solution" with euthanasia on the will of the patient is like comparing apples and oranges. Besides: if a goverment whats to do a "final solution" they dont need liberal euthanisia laws before. They can just do it.. Its time you americans (and others) took some eductation on our euthanisia law. Its a little bit different of what one of the republican candidates tried to tell you (with the bracelets:"please dont kill me".. That was total and utter BS). We have checks and balances in place. We dont tell patients that the have to put a plastic bag over their heads and take sleeping pills and then hope they dont wake up. Here in Holland 2 different doctors have to agree that the patient is in unbearable pain with NO prospect of becoming better (nor the pain, nor the disease), and that it is the final and free will of the patient. Untill the moment the injection is given, even the second beforem the patient stil can stop the euthanasia. What monsters like you always conveniently forget to tell us is that this is the path of least resistance, just look at you you're already ok with assisted suicide and abortion, the next step of course is infanticide and involuntary suicide (murder) and the next step of course are camps. What monsters like you forget to mention is if the government would go out and jump straight to concentration camps it is them that will be killed off so they have to do it in stages, the 6 step program is their favorite: [link to www.cuttingedge.org] People like you should really be killed, you monsters are much too dangerous to be allowed to live, and back in the day we used to kill traitors like you, we used to kill monsters like you, unfortunately they do not kill the likes of you anymore, instead it is the weak that is murdered. YOU SUCK! Take your legal big pharma meds Sweden. They won't kill you straight away but at least you'll make one pig richer. How is it being a monster to give back people their right to choose to die? Actually making suicide illegal is pretty much liberty killing and anti-democratic. Now killing people against their will in working camps is another story that you seem to be mixing up with the actual story OP has brought us. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 5515018 Netherlands 06/13/2013 01:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If you dont want euthansia for yourself: be myy guest, but don't deny ME the right to euthanise myself when i', terminally ill. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10975754 Last week I lost my dad to lungcancer. Although our whole family thought he would take euthansia, he didnt. Maybe, when the time comes, I don't want to euthanise myself also. That's up to me AND NOBODY ELSE... Everyone who thinks different : please explain me why YOU feel YOU have the right to deside for ME in which way i leave this earth... Go for it. People suicide everyday. You can get about any med you want to take yourself out. Don't det shit up for a repeat of history because you want the suicide option. Which repeat of history? In which country was/is euthanaisia mandatory? Are you trying to do a godwin? Completely different ballpark. Comparing "The final solution" with euthanasia on the will of the patient is like comparing apples and oranges. Besides: if a goverment whats to do a "final solution" they dont need liberal euthanisia laws before. They can just do it.. Its time you americans (and others) took some eductation on our euthanisia law. Its a little bit different of what one of the republican candidates tried to tell you (with the bracelets:"please dont kill me".. That was total and utter BS). We have checks and balances in place. We dont tell patients that the have to put a plastic bag over their heads and take sleeping pills and then hope they dont wake up. Here in Holland 2 different doctors have to agree that the patient is in unbearable pain with NO prospect of becoming better (nor the pain, nor the disease), and that it is the final and free will of the patient. Untill the moment the injection is given, even the second beforem the patient stil can stop the euthanasia. What monsters like you always conveniently forget to tell us is that this is the path of least resistance, just look at you you're already ok with assisted suicide and abortion, the next step of course is infanticide and involuntary suicide (murder) and the next step of course are camps. What monsters like you forget to mention is if the government would go out and jump straight to concentration camps it is them that will be killed off so they have to do it in stages, the 6 step program is their favorite: [link to www.cuttingedge.org] People like you should really be killed, you monsters are much too dangerous to be allowed to live, and back in the day we used to kill traitors like you, we used to kill monsters like you, unfortunately they do not kill the likes of you anymore, instead it is the weak that is murdered. YOU SUCK! Just one more thing: Go visit your local hospital. Visit some wards with terminal Ill (cancer, especially lungcancer) patients. Speak with them. THEN come to me and tell me that i'm a monster.. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 7669788 Iceland 06/13/2013 02:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41576771 Go for it. People suicide everyday. You can get about any med you want to take yourself out. Don't det shit up for a repeat of history because you want the suicide option. Which repeat of history? In which country was/is euthanaisia mandatory? Are you trying to do a godwin? Completely different ballpark. Comparing "The final solution" with euthanasia on the will of the patient is like comparing apples and oranges. Besides: if a goverment whats to do a "final solution" they dont need liberal euthanisia laws before. They can just do it.. Its time you americans (and others) took some eductation on our euthanisia law. Its a little bit different of what one of the republican candidates tried to tell you (with the bracelets:"please dont kill me".. That was total and utter BS). We have checks and balances in place. We dont tell patients that the have to put a plastic bag over their heads and take sleeping pills and then hope they dont wake up. Here in Holland 2 different doctors have to agree that the patient is in unbearable pain with NO prospect of becoming better (nor the pain, nor the disease), and that it is the final and free will of the patient. Untill the moment the injection is given, even the second beforem the patient stil can stop the euthanasia. What monsters like you always conveniently forget to tell us is that this is the path of least resistance, just look at you you're already ok with assisted suicide and abortion, the next step of course is infanticide and involuntary suicide (murder) and the next step of course are camps. What monsters like you forget to mention is if the government would go out and jump straight to concentration camps it is them that will be killed off so they have to do it in stages, the 6 step program is their favorite: [link to www.cuttingedge.org] People like you should really be killed, you monsters are much too dangerous to be allowed to live, and back in the day we used to kill traitors like you, we used to kill monsters like you, unfortunately they do not kill the likes of you anymore, instead it is the weak that is murdered. YOU SUCK! Just one more thing: Go visit your local hospital. Visit some wards with terminal Ill (cancer, especially lungcancer) patients. Speak with them. THEN come to me and tell me that i'm a monster.. "uninformed consensual monstrous human eating society" you've seen the governments real care for the victims walking the streets of amsterdam, not allowed to nod off on a public bench and fed regularly away from the tourists, like pidgeons; hidden away while dying "vitamin c; thc" besides, autism, alzheimer's along with old age are both symptoms of cannabinoids deficiency, common since hemp was removed from our daily cuisine; read about scurvy ~H |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 6885327 United States 06/13/2013 10:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | euthanasia frees souls from their suffering in defective bodies. it's perfectly natural. in nature such animals would be eaten by predators. keeping them alive (and suffering, thus torturing them) and allowing them to procreate weakens the species which ultimately results in extinction. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41630210 not when it's been part of their evil plan to foment depopulation from the onset it isn't hardly "perfect" and hardly "natural" in either/any regard |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 6885327 United States 06/13/2013 10:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | it's timely however the lucky ones will get out early and not have to face what's coming for the rest of this vile bunch, that being what's overly due them in spades, in full hence the ones that utilize this self serving law which was never legislated with any real concern whatsoever for either the elderly or the victims of youth will indeed receive a free pass to a place where the fomenters of such could only dare dream of ending up themselves hehehe that's where the luck of the draw will come in and I don't see much coming in anyones regard in that department but we'll ask the children and the elderly how they believe we should foment that shortly when we have their undivided attention ; ) |